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John McCreedy
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Posted - 2006.06.19 19:43:00 -
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Originally by: Jeremiah Orr This is enough to bring me out of retirement. It would be best if you stay out of low sec Wildhog.
If that's what it takes to bring you home, then Alts, by all means, please keep on flaming me
Make a Difference
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John McCreedy
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Posted - 2006.06.19 19:44:00 -
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Edited by: John McCreedy on 19/06/2006 19:44:04 double post
Make a Difference
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KSUDruid
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Posted - 2006.06.19 20:07:00 -
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Originally by: cordy <Insert Sig Here>
That is a really cool sig btw ol' friend
-Druid
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ASCNpostingalt
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Posted - 2006.06.19 21:58:00 -
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Hehe like anyone in EDF would dare question John here.
Anyways I'm out, no I'm not posting with my main, I'm not stupid, but maybe threads like this will save a few suckers from joining EDF and having to deal with the BS I and so many others did.
P.S. Ask Cyvok why ASCN has a corp 'jumping' policy now and what corp required it?
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Jesus
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Posted - 2006.06.19 23:08:00 -
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Originally by: ASCNpostingalt
P.S. Ask Cyvok why ASCN has a corp 'jumping' policy now and what corp required it?
oh plz plz plz tell me your main im not in ASCN and cant Join any ASCN corps so i would like to know who you are
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epic113
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Posted - 2006.06.19 23:56:00 -
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Edited by: epic113 on 19/06/2006 23:58:09
Originally by: ASCNpostingalt Edited by: ASCNpostingalt on 19/06/2006 03:09:54
Originally by: epic113
honestly if you care so little about this your willing to hide behind a alt just because you MIGHT get booted then dont post?
yes edf seems to have a few problems as of late but the alts are taking things a bit far in this thread, all edf needs is a decent war to burn of the parasites
Risk vrs reward.
Odds that John figures out the issue are very very long. Odds he tries to get vindictive and petty, very very high. I'm still a bit bitter about the whole thing, but lately thats take a number for ex-EDF. Its not the parasites that are leaving EDF but those with self esteem.
true john does have a petty side, i mean most ceo's after finding out a player who had done a decent ammount for there corp had left would at least say ty and gl and not have a rant about how great there corp is right john?
the more i think about how ungrateful you have been the more i think you deserve every flame you get.
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mainaltpost
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Posted - 2006.06.19 23:58:00 -
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Aerian u promise us 10 m per flaming post in this thread
doo u ganna pay me ?
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ASCNpostingalt
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Posted - 2006.06.20 03:35:00 -
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Originally by: epic113
true john does have a petty side, i mean most ceo's after finding out a player who had done a decent ammount for there corp had left would at least say ty and gl and not have a rant about how great there corp is right john?
the more i think about how ungrateful you have been the more i think you deserve every flame you get.
Now you get it. If you try to debate, politely, in the corp forums why you don't like a policy, you get flamed for it by John and one director who seems to enjoy flaming everyone who would dare think something might be amiss. Then if you leave because you don't think that policy is the best for you, you get flamed again for being a selfish jerk who doesn't share Johns grand vision. I've seen rl companies that work that way have high turn over, you can only imagine what it does in a game corp.
I saw too many good people insulted for no real reason by John, and way to much 'all your stuff belongs to edf' in how much of what you do belongs to the corp. I think the quickest way to figure that out is win a t2 bpo. I found a corp of mutual self interest not a communist dictatorship that is edf :)
So John, keep yelling, and keep that recruitment thread bumped (corp order of course) as you need it for a reason.
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Davlin Lotze
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Posted - 2006.06.20 05:23:00 -
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Originally by: Jeremiah Orr This is enough to bring me out of retirement. It would be best if you stay out of low sec Wildhog.
Come and camp a plex with me. I'm bored, drunk as usual, and had just two kills tonight, neither of which amounted to much iskies. /cry
But the look on the victims face when the carrier's fighters showed up to assist the raven was $$$ :)
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Jeremiah Orr
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Posted - 2006.06.20 19:43:00 -
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Holy cow, Davlin lives!
Learn from this, filty alts. This man had like a dozen alts and still posts with his main. <3 Dav
Anyways, I'll be back in game by the weekend but my time will still be limited. RL has me busier than a three ****ed jack rabbit.
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Big BillyBob
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Posted - 2006.06.20 21:10:00 -
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Edited by: Big BillyBob on 20/06/2006 21:10:05 OMG Dav and Jer!
Anyway, I have a good idea of who these alts belong to, but I won't say because the older members in EDF should already know. Not many choices guys, hehe.
All I'm going to say is this: if you had an issue with how the corp's structure worked, all you had to do was talk with a director or John INTELLIGENTLY, POLITELY, and RESPECTFULLY. Any other discussion and I can't blame them for giving you the finger. These guys give their own good time to manage and direct the corp to everyone's benefit, and they don't have time for childish, unprepared, and RUDE "suggestions", if they can even be called that.
EDF never forced you to join, only to leave. John and the directors have tried to create a corp that (most) every one can enjoy within certain restrictions due to being located within 0.0 space, in an alliance with its own rules that override our own, and to protect the general welfare of all members without sinking the corp into the hole that so many others have gone into.
Just because you don't agree with how things are done or had an idea shot down doesn't make us a bad corp, or the directors bad leaders. It makes you a bad member. We present every new member with our rules and expectations, and it is their choice to follow them or drop their application to our corp. EVERY ONE is aware of our regulations and must comply to our rules, new and old. You say we are a bad corp because you don't agree with how we operate and because you break the rules? Excuse me, but thats rediculous.
Don't ridicule our corp, alliance, and more than benevolent leaders for your shortcomings and idiocy. So EDF wasn't what you wanted? Move on then. Don't ruin the opinions of others with your own bias by ridiculing us on the public forums. Leave the experience up to others, because they might love it here if they don't hear any of your libel, opinionated crap.
To all of you observing this thread, take all you read from these...alts...with a grain of salt the size of a veldspar asteroid. It is easier to ridicule than praise. signature removed - Sherkaner size limits are 400x120 pixels, 24000 bytes |
Josclyn Verreuil
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Posted - 2006.06.20 21:23:00 -
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Hi :)
~Clan Verreuil |
cordy
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Posted - 2006.06.21 16:54:00 -
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Originally by: KSUDruid
Originally by: cordy <Insert Sig Here>
That is a really cool sig btw ol' friend
:D we really need to catch up chatting been a long time my friend :)
Why did God create man before women? There's always a rough draft before the masterpiece
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TZeer
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Posted - 2006.06.22 04:04:00 -
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Edited by: TZeer on 22/06/2006 04:04:39 Jeremiah, Davlin, Cordy <3
Woot, alot of known faces in here. Nice to see u guys and girls
Drop me a line ingame one day. Miss u!!
Victorious warriors win first and then go to war, while defeated warriors go to war first and then seek to win.
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Jeremiah Orr
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Posted - 2006.06.22 14:50:00 -
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Originally by: TZeer Edited by: TZeer on 22/06/2006 04:04:39 Jeremiah, Davlin, Cordy <3
Woot, alot of known faces in here. Nice to see u guys and girls
Drop me a line ingame one day. Miss u!!
You just miss my Lube Cannon
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VonKaplanek III
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Posted - 2006.06.22 23:29:00 -
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Pathetic alts and little balls.....
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ASCNpostingalt
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Posted - 2006.06.23 04:06:00 -
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Originally by: VonKaplanek III Pathetic alts and little balls.....
Just shows you haven't had to deal with John
Perhaps I should go bump the EDF recruitment thread
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Vardemis
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Posted - 2006.06.23 04:31:00 -
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Originally by: ASCNpostingalt
Originally by: VonKaplanek III Pathetic alts and little balls.....
Just shows you haven't had to deal with John
Perhaps I should go bump the EDF recruitment thread
Since you are not part of ASCN nor EDF, I doubt your comments here have more then an entertaining character. Of course you can claim and be an alt of an ASCN corporation, but since that cannot be verified, you are just a stupid alt trolling the forums, hoping that people might actually think you are part of the alliance. To me you are nothing except a pathetic wannabe.
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killerco
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Posted - 2006.06.23 15:16:00 -
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Originally by: ASCNpostingalt
Originally by: VonKaplanek III Pathetic alts and little balls.....
Just shows you haven't had to deal with John
Perhaps I should go bump the EDF recruitment thread
lol we deal with John on a regular basis because or 2 corps work closely together. EDF is an honourable corp with honourable leadership so go back too your trol hole or post with your main. I even doubt your in ascn anyway! GO TROL BEGONE!
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Wildhog
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Posted - 2006.06.23 23:05:00 -
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hi killerco and sorry for the T2 component delivery which never took place but it wasnt me who ****** up your delivery
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Wildhog
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Posted - 2006.06.23 23:07:00 -
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hows the ASCN T2 industry going btw?
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Robbie Boozecruise
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Posted - 2006.06.24 00:03:00 -
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wildhog crawl back into you hole baby.
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Leno
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Posted - 2006.06.24 00:35:00 -
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john boy i like your style. You, me, a bottle of rum, great things could happen --------------- RIP - Smoske, My Friend
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Chib
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Posted - 2006.06.24 02:09:00 -
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that was an enjoyable read i must say havent been in ASCN long enough to have an opinion either way, i have never spoken to either, since invested 20 minutes of my life reading this and a further 20 typing this response on my shiny new PSP, i have to say i've enjoyed reading both sides of this argument and i consider this time well spent /me returns to my pointless existence ---------------------------------------------
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ASCNpostingalt
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Posted - 2006.06.24 05:38:00 -
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Originally by: killerco
Perhaps I should go bump the EDF recruitment thread
lol we deal with John on a regular basis because or 2 corps work closely together. EDF is an honourable corp with honourable leadership so go back too your trol hole or post with your main. I even doubt your in ascn anyway! GO TROL BEGONE!
And you would know EDF internal politics how? Why don't you ask about the new 'corp jumping' ASCN policy and why it was put in place.
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TheKiller8
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Posted - 2006.07.03 00:57:00 -
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EDF was my first corp and I stuck with them for over a year. I've spend plenty of personal time with John talking, working on the website and whatnot and I consider him to be a good bloke. Without EDF I wouldn't have continued to play Eve, leave ASCN in anger, become a pirate and make awesome flash movies(tm). So saying EDF sucks is saying my flash movies suck. And saying my flash movies suck is not only mean, but also a lie, physically impossible and a bannable offense.
Why waste time flaming EDF and ASCN when you could be shooting them anyway...
.: Click 2 See My Flash Animations :. |
BoinKlasik
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Posted - 2006.07.03 05:53:00 -
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Originally by: TheKiller8 EDF was my first corp and I stuck with them for over a year. I've spend plenty of personal time with John talking, working on the website and whatnot and I consider him to be a good bloke. Without EDF I wouldn't have continued to play Eve, leave ASCN in anger, become a pirate and make awesome flash movies(tm). So saying EDF sucks is saying my flash movies suck. And saying my flash movies suck is not only mean, but also a lie, physically impossible and a bannable offense.
Why waste time flaming EDF and ASCN when you could be shooting them anyway...
Killer, your flash movies rock...but not your thread bumping decisions...
*doh, I broke my edited sig :/* *cries* this signature was lacking pink, I'll provide it for you. There. Looks better doesn't it? -Eris Fixed it for you. Oh, btw, yarr! ~kieron Didn't I tell you? The damsel moved in with me, we're having a great time. - Wrangler The damsel may not be distressed any more, but how many times does the informant have to be silenced before he gets the message? - Cortes
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Maneam
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Posted - 2006.07.03 14:07:00 -
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Edited by: Maneam on 03/07/2006 14:15:09
Originally by: ASCNpostingalt Hehe like anyone in EDF would dare question John here.
Anyways I'm out, no I'm not posting with my main, I'm not stupid, but maybe threads like this will save a few suckers from joining EDF and having to deal with the BS I and so many others did.
P.S. Ask Cyvok why ASCN has a corp 'jumping' policy now and what corp required it?
1) ASCN does not have an anti Corp jumping policy. 2) All anyone wants from people wanting to change corps is that it be done respectfully. 3) I highly doubt you are currently a member of ASCN. 4) If you are a member and you don't like the rules... LEAVE!!!!
edit: If anyone is in a Corp or Alliance and they are not having fun due to rules and restriction, do yourself a favor and leave to find something else.
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M'buku
Minmatar Black Lance Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2006.07.04 15:03:00 -
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Hello people.
I've tried to avoid this thread, but felt I should add something.
This post may appear to come from an unexpected quarter, but I've had the chance to work closely with John Mcreedy and EDF for a long time in the past.
I have found John, and his corporation members to be nothing short of honest, hardworking, and above all loyal friends.
Seeing such remarks towards either John, or EDF are disturbing.
Anyone who knows these people, and has taken the time to talk, or work with them for any length of time will know how silly these posts of accusation really are.
That will be all.
Regards M'buku Supremacy
P.S Hi Ho Cordy o/
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Toranya Faidutti
Gallente Isotope Industries
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Posted - 2006.10.13 20:02:00 -
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Originally by: John McCreedy
You're totally correct, Alt. Corp thieves, Pirates, Market Griefers, Spys, Parasites are the core of EDF and have been leaving/booted in droves
*raises eyebrows*
I certainly hope, John, that you are not including myself and Resipsa Loquitor in any of those categories of people who decided to leave EDF because we were not happy with its leadership and direction.
The reality of the situation is between the extremes. No, John is not a pirate or the devil or *insert imflammatory term either* but in my opinion and the opinion of a number of other decent, honest players who have left the corp or the game in the past couple months, his management style is anything but "fun". We left EDF specifically because we didn't find it fun to play with John given the way he runs his corp and talks to its members. That doesn't make us spies, pirates, yada yada any more than it makes John the anti-christ (if one believes in such things.)
I wasn't going to respond to this thread until I bristled at the implication that only the "losers" were leaving EDF because they were unhappy there. Anyone who denies that the contributions Res and I made to the corp were extremely valuable is either clueless or delusional.
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