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Ryoko Hunter
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Posted - 2006.06.18 02:59:00 -
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To keep this short, I simply mean to get a wider understanding of the communities take on low-sec frigate-only piracy (or in other words ratting in nothing more powerful than a solo frig) and how realistic such piracy is.
I've seen video's and read stickies, but I can't understand how something that is so offensively and defensively dwarfed when compared to the targets common in the space in which it would be allowed to hunt could possibly take out something so powerful.
As I said, I've seen video's, but watching an expert at his game is no way of judging how difficult pulling the same feat would be.
So, I ask again: How difficult, or realistic, is belt-piracy in nothing more powerful than a solo frig? |
Sonos SAGD
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Posted - 2006.06.18 03:14:00 -
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it depends on your target
if they are set up for just mining you will stand a better chance than someone ratting
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Ryoko Hunter
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Posted - 2006.06.18 03:19:00 -
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 Originally by: Sonos SAGD
it depends on your target
if they are set up for just mining you will stand a better chance than someone ratting
That's true, and thanks for the input, but what I meant to ask was about frig-ratting on the whole, not on a single instance basis. If a ratter gets lucky and comes across a prime target, of course it's realistic that they'd win, and the reverse is also true. |
Daos Leghki
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Posted - 2006.06.18 03:58:00 -
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Frig piracy is very possible. You just have to pick your targets. Stay away from missile ships or ships that tend to have lots of NOS (rupture, stabber, cara) etc. I wouldn't suggest goign against anything bigger than a BC as well, unless you're in a group. The thing that saves a frig when pirating is the fact that it's small and fast. Orbiting your target at a close range means you can evade their guns. You are, however, succeptible to NOS and webbers.
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Phelan Lore
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Posted - 2006.06.18 04:07:00 -
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Try it...
What do you have to lose?
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Ryoko Hunter
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Posted - 2006.06.18 04:10:00 -
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Originally by: Phelan Lore
Try it...
What do you have to lose?
Four kessies, 1,000,000isk... so far
Still, if I can learn the trade in a T1 frig, I can do it in anything, ne? |
Shandling
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Posted - 2006.06.18 04:14:00 -
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Originally by: Ryoko Hunter
Originally by: Phelan Lore
Try it...
What do you have to lose?
Four kessies, 1,000,000isk... so far
Still, if I can learn the trade in a T1 frig, I can do it in anything, ne?
Best place to start. :) If you enjoy it, go for assault frigs and/or inties.
Cruisers are a good choice too (especially while you're training up for AFs or Inties) and a little more expensive but you'll be a bit more powerful.
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Dana Barrett
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Posted - 2006.06.18 05:29:00 -
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I absolutely love frig piracy. It's cheap and it really gives you a sense of accomplishment when you can take on targets better than your own ship. I can't wait to hop in AFs or inties.
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Aeaus
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Posted - 2006.06.18 05:46:00 -
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We had a very good solo frigate (T1) pilot of ours destroy a few nice targets, such as a Hulk, so it's viable and profitable.
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Malthros Zenobia
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Posted - 2006.06.18 05:47:00 -
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Originally by: Ryoko Hunter
Originally by: Phelan Lore
Try it...
What do you have to lose?
Four kessies, 1,000,000isk... so far
Still, if I can learn the trade in a T1 frig, I can do it in anything, ne?
Insure the ship and use t1 mods, then it'll only be around 200k isk lost, if that.
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Pyrok
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Posted - 2006.06.18 06:01:00 -
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Originally by: Ryoko Hunter
Originally by: Phelan Lore
Try it...
What do you have to lose?
Four kessies, 1,000,000isk... so far
Still, if I can learn the trade in a T1 frig, I can do it in anything, ne?
Learning to pirate in a T1 frig will teach you how to pirate in an AF or an Inty. Cruiser and BS piracy are phenomenally different, for the most part, unless you enjoy comedy setups
Lowsec Piracy: Because you're tired of veld mining but still too much of a girl to go to the real frontier |
mazzilliu
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Posted - 2006.06.18 07:45:00 -
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frig piracy is fun, practically free, good practice and also doable by people with low skillpoints. i do it all the time anyways
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Ryoko Hunter
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Posted - 2006.06.18 07:55:00 -
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It's much harder than it sounds, however.
How much difference does a switch between a MWD and a AB make? |
HippoKing
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Posted - 2006.06.18 08:38:00 -
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kestrels are poor for cruiser/desty killing, though they are good at frigates. Get a rifter or a punisher.
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Ryoko Hunter
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Posted - 2006.06.18 08:52:00 -
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Originally by: HippoKing
kestrels are poor for cruiser/desty killing, though they are good at frigates. Get a rifter or a punisher.
I was always hesitant to try out another faction's starships, I'm Caldari born and bred, but I suppose a few hours and a few hundred thousand isk wont hurt if it goes to trying something new. |
HippoKing
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Posted - 2006.06.18 08:58:00 -
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Caldari are excellent in small gangs, but they really aren't the best for solo hunting in my opinion. I prefer minmatar for that.
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HippoKing
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Posted - 2006.06.18 09:01:00 -
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Edited by: HippoKing on 18/06/2006 09:01:26
wtf, double post, 3mins apart 
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Kyozoku
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Posted - 2006.06.18 09:26:00 -
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It works but cruisers are better because you can engage at gates and stations.
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Magic Trev
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Posted - 2006.06.18 09:35:00 -
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is the OP talking about killing NPC rats? or pirating... because it seems at different points to be both...
but either one is possible in a frig
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Ryoko Hunter
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Posted - 2006.06.18 09:36:00 -
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Originally by: Magic Trev
is the OP talking about killing NPC rats? or pirating... because it seems at different points to be both...
but either one is possible in a frig
PvP (belt, most likely) piracy; I'm sorry if I wasn't clear. |
Jex Jast
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Posted - 2006.06.18 13:59:00 -
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Originally by: Kyozoku
It works but cruisers are better because you can engage at gates and stations.
You can? I need a better tank...
Originally by: Ryoko Hunter
*snip* ne?
Japanese particles ftw?
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HippoKing
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Posted - 2006.06.18 14:07:00 -
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Originally by: Jex Jast
Originally by: Kyozoku
It works but cruisers are better because you can engage at gates and stations.
You can? I need a better tank...
you can't viably
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Gabby05
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Posted - 2006.06.18 14:25:00 -
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Ryoko you should watch the vids again if you've been checking out the punisher frapse you will probably notice that alot of the punisher victims are caracals, why? because most caracals dont like to sacrifice a heavy missile slot for a nos nor would they want to sacrifice a mid slot for a web and have a crappy drone bay size, unless their using t2 missiles or some sort of propulsion mod to increase its distance its going down to any ship.
Frigates are cheap throw away ships dont think flying them will make you the demi-god of pvp, It will help you overcome the adrenaline rush but id consider flying cruisers.
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Snodgey2004
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Posted - 2006.06.18 14:31:00 -
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How realistic is piracy in a Frig ? very , I know you said your Caldari and prefer to stay in a Kessie , I've personally used all the frigs and the one i would take over any is the Rifter , awesome little ship to pvp in I'd highly recommend* it .
Can kill many cruisers with ease aswell as frigs , occasinally the stray Inty and AF ( belt piracy you'll be running into npc'ers so obviously not setup to counter you as well as they should ) - Not really too constructive , just to say go get a Rifter 
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Traeon
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Posted - 2006.06.18 15:50:00 -
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Frigate piracy is realistic, yes, you'll be at the bottom of the food chain, but you've barely anything to lose.
Punisher with crap skills can easily take down a caracal with crap skills, if said caracal has heavy launchers fitted and no nos (which is what most pilots seem to use).
2x medium pulse, 1x dual light pulse, 1x nos
afterburner, scrambler
small repairer, 2x cap relays, energized adaptive nano
Good day
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Hakuin
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Posted - 2006.06.18 17:45:00 -
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Basically it's a russian roulette. Nos + Web + Drones = BOOM.
But ehi, it's funny (and cheap).
Train for rifter or punisher (tech 1), crusader or claw (tech 2). In belt 2 medslots are enough but 4 lowslots are 4tw.
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Kyozoku
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Posted - 2006.06.18 17:49:00 -
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Originally by: HippoKing
Originally by: Jex Jast
Originally by: Kyozoku
It works but cruisers are better because you can engage at gates and stations.
You can? I need a better tank...
you can't viably
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Henry Bessemer
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Posted - 2006.06.18 18:39:00 -
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Originally by: HippoKing
Originally by: Jex Jast
Originally by: Kyozoku
It works but cruisers are better because you can engage at gates and stations.
You can? I need a better tank...
you can't viably
From what I've heard (I don't fly Amarr so I can't say for sure) a Maller can tank them long enough to get a kill.
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Mordinn
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Posted - 2006.06.18 19:10:00 -
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While I can't speak for anything but a Rifter, I can say that its definately doable in a frig. My biggest kill was a Hulk, though it most likely wasn't properly fitted, I still took the thing down.
Like others have said, you need to be picky about your targets, but you'll soon get a sence of what you can/cannot take on.
My advise would be to read up on the different frigs, pick one that looks good to you, and train your balls off for that specific ship. You'll turn it into an overlooked monster
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Ryoko Hunter
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Posted - 2006.06.19 05:18:00 -
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Can any suggest a disposable rifter setup? I'm afraid to admit that I'm rather poor and can't afford 720 howitzers and the like, not for a ship that I will loose more often than not. |
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