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TheoTheGreek
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Posted - 2006.06.18 20:37:00 -
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So I've trained for a taranis and finally bought one(yawn ) and realised i'm not too proficient in setting up ships other than a vexor :D and so would like you lot to get back to me with your pvp taranis setups.
Also i intend to solo in it; is this a good idea? and will it bring any profit? Also: How should it be used in a gang and for what purpose
yes yes i know its type is an interceptor but i still dont know what to do :P
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Montero
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Posted - 2006.06.18 20:40:00 -
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what kind of solo pvp? belt piracy in empire? soloing against other frigs in 0.0?
you need different setups for different things - i find that's especialy the case with the ranis.
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CptEagle
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Posted - 2006.06.18 20:45:00 -
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PvP is generally not profitable.
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Lord Morkoth
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Posted - 2006.06.18 20:47:00 -
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Originally by: CptEagle PvP is generally not profitable.
what eve have u been playing?
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Jenny Spitfire
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Posted - 2006.06.18 20:48:00 -
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Originally by: Lord Morkoth
Originally by: CptEagle PvP is generally not profitable.
what eve have u been playing?
Soldier kind i.e. alliance. ---------------- RecruitMe@NOINT!
Quote: Tier 3 Minmatar BS needs Target Painting for bonuses.
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Crellion
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Posted - 2006.06.18 20:53:00 -
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Gang: 3x150II web 20km mwd med rep 200plate micro
Solo: 1)same for cruisers 2)3xneutII small nos (if it fits) mwd web 7.5km dmg ctrl micro aux + rep/nano/100plate/mfsII etc for ceptor/frig/etc kills 3) rail 1v1 set up with 20km scram and cpr/speed mod
4) indy killer - low sec piracy rails or blasters with mwd and 2x 7.5km scram dmg ctrl rep local hull
Kalh epityxia
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Montero
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Posted - 2006.06.18 20:56:00 -
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Originally by: Crellion Gang: 3x150II web 20km mwd med rep 200plate micro
Solo: 1)same for cruisers 2)3xneutII small nos (if it fits) mwd web 7.5km dmg ctrl micro aux + rep/nano/100plate/mfsII etc for ceptor/frig/etc kills 3) rail 1v1 set up with 20km scram and cpr/speed mod
4) indy killer - low sec piracy rails or blasters with mwd and 2x 7.5km scram dmg ctrl rep local hull
Kalh epityxia
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Jenny Spitfire
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Posted - 2006.06.18 21:00:00 -
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Edited by: Jenny Spitfire on 18/06/2006 21:00:43
Originally by: Montero
Originally by: Crellion
Kalh epityxia
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It's greek. ---------------- RecruitMe@NOINT!
Quote: Tier 3 Minmatar BS needs Target Painting for bonuses.
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BlackDog Rackh'am
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Posted - 2006.06.18 21:08:00 -
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He's wishing him good luck/success with it
Come on,i'm bored at work, ask me more!!!
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TheoTheGreek
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Posted - 2006.06.18 21:08:00 -
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euxapistw megale lol
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Montero
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Posted - 2006.06.18 21:12:00 -
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no i was referring to the setups he posted none of which fit.
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Jongo Fett
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Posted - 2006.06.18 21:26:00 -
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Edited by: Jongo Fett on 18/06/2006 21:26:19 Well heres a lil setup that can churn out the dmg and let u survive
Highs: 3 Ion blasters t2 1 Small Nos MWDS: MWD Scram web >all best u can get Lows: Small Armor rep t2, Dmg Control unit, MAPC
its best to carry loads of void, antimatter and null along. Void for cruisers and above, null and antimatter are great for anti cepter/frig
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TheoTheGreek
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Posted - 2006.06.19 11:49:00 -
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cool thanks for all your help... also a t1 setup wouldnt go amiss atm..am stil training for most t2 equip
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Sonreir
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Posted - 2006.06.19 11:58:00 -
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Don't bother flying a T1 fitted Taranis. You'll lose it to a stiff breeze.
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Deathbarrage
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Posted - 2006.06.19 12:03:00 -
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3x ion II, small nos mwd, web, 75.km SAR II, MFS II, MAPC
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Lorette
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Posted - 2006.06.19 12:03:00 -
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Edited by: Lorette on 19/06/2006 12:05:07 Edited by: Lorette on 19/06/2006 12:04:10 Even with max fitting skills (and adv weapon upgrades at 3) i needed 2 MAPC's just to fit 3 neutron II's on with barely enough room for anything else...
Think mine atm is 3x Ion II's, NOS MWD, web, scram MAPC, SAR +something else (cant remember )
EDIT: I think it was a MFS, so the same as the guy below me
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DarkElf
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Posted - 2006.06.19 12:15:00 -
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Originally by: Crellion Gang: 3x150II web 20km mwd med rep 200plate micro
Solo: 1)same for cruisers 2)3xneutII small nos (if it fits) mwd web 7.5km dmg ctrl micro aux + rep/nano/100plate/mfsII etc for ceptor/frig/etc kills 3) rail 1v1 set up with 20km scram and cpr/speed mod
4) indy killer - low sec piracy rails or blasters with mwd and 2x 7.5km scram dmg ctrl rep local hull
Kalh epityxia
no offence but please dis-regard everything said above here. Later setups are great. 2 setups with the ranis. i like using 3 x t2 neutron blaster 1 x e5 nos 7.5km scram, fleeting web, 1mn t2 mwd 2 x power cores, 1 t2 small rep. that is a fun setup because the dmg mod for me is about 10x the ion setups are more rounded and sensible tho. better tanking ability with ions. also yeah for group ops i'd use 150 rails and a 20km scram, probably a plate as well for that extra time. and to answer ur question, can a ranis be used solo. hell yes!
DE
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steveid
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Posted - 2006.06.19 12:24:00 -
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Originally by: Jongo Fett Edited by: Jongo Fett on 18/06/2006 21:26:19 Well heres a lil setup that can churn out the dmg and let u survive
Highs: 3 Ion blasters t2 1 Small Nos MWDS: MWD Scram web >all best u can get Lows: Small Armor rep t2, Dmg Control unit, MAPC
its best to carry loads of void, antimatter and null along. Void for cruisers and above, null and antimatter are great for anti cepter/frig
IMO a damage control on a ceptor is a bit of a waste due to the lack of hull. You'd be better w/ a t2 damage mod.
also ... and your not gonna like this people but if your serious abou7t making money you need to survive ... so a (gimped) setup for you that will help you pick your fights, and run if you need to:
3 X ion II's 1 small diminishing 1 afterburner II 2 web (@ least 1 good one) 1 small armor rep II 1 stab 1 t2 damage mod.
2 warrior drones (t2 if poss)
This will give you great dps, you'll be able to run from any ceptor solo if you need to, and be able to hold down any ceptor you want to fight.
Even if your nossed you should be able to stay in a fight with your own nos, and you should also be able to use your ab with every activation of your nos, alowing you to ab away from the target out of 7.5km scram range if you need to get away.
The duel web will give you the ability to hold down any cruiser or indy you wish to take on, and there are a few other ships i'd consider as well (cyclone aint bad if you get under its guns).
If your fighting a ship w/ drones i highly reccomend using 1 web on the target and 1 on a drone until you pop the drones first (while staying out of 7.5km scram range) but if they are a dedicated drone ship i'd just run most of the time.
Stabs arn't pretty, but if you want to make money from pvp and your new to the ship they arn't all bad. Its a bit like training wheels on a bike. you'll lose some kills because of it when you could just fit extra damage, but you will survive more.
If you dont have advanced weapons upgrades and have trouble fitting any of these setups try downgrading your ab and armor rep to named t1 to save a little grid.
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FraXy
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Posted - 2006.06.19 12:40:00 -
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Edited by: FraXy on 19/06/2006 12:41:28 A Taranis got more Structure HP then Armor HP as base and including skills.
Assumed max skills:
351 Shield 507 Armor 781 Structure
A T1 damage control gives 50% Structure resist which equals to an effective 1562 Structure HP + increased effective HP on Shield/Armor.
A good damage control works absolutely wonders on a Taranis, but the best combination that i`ve concluded is 200mm Rolled Tungsten + a good damage control like the F85 Peripheral Damage System
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Kragg Malak
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Posted - 2006.06.19 13:00:00 -
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Originally by: steveid
3 X ion II's 1 small diminishing 1 afterburner II 2 web (@ least 1 good one) 1 small armor rep II 1 stab 1 t2 damage mod.
2 warrior drones (t2 if poss)
the only people you're gonna kill with that are AFK players. You have nothing preventing them from warping away. Not only that, with the two webs, they'll just warp away faster than you can kill them (if the mechanics on webbers hasnt been changed)
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Rei Toai
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Posted - 2006.06.19 13:16:00 -
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Edited by: Rei Toai on 19/06/2006 13:16:00
Originally by: Jongo Fett
Highs: 3 Ion blasters t2 1 Small Nos MWDS: MWD Scram web >all best u can get Lows: Small Armor rep t2, Dmg Control unit, MAPC
anyone tried a setup where you kick the MAPC and the ions for electrons and a MFS t2??
has anyone experience with it?? __________________________________
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Celedris
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Posted - 2006.06.19 13:54:00 -
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Originally by: Rei Toai
anyone tried a setup where you kick the MAPC and the ions for electrons and a MFS t2??
has anyone experience with it??
I don't have experience with electrons, but this should fit (less than 0.5 grid left with AWU 3):
H: 3x Electron T2, 'Knave' Nos M: Catalyzed MWD, Scram, Web L: 'Accommodation' SAR, MFS T2, Dam Control
You lose range with the electrons, and you downgrade the nos, mwd & sar a bit. You should do about 15% more damage on your guns though.
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Eben Rochelle
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Posted - 2006.06.19 14:10:00 -
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Edited by: Eben Rochelle on 19/06/2006 14:12:25 Is there some conspiracy on this forum where everyone is trying to get you to fly crap setups so they can pwn you easier?
anyway i generally fit
3xion II's Small NOS
arcjet MWD, j5b scram, x5 web
200 tungsten, pdu II, mapc
2 x hornet II's (tho prolly not the best drones to use)
keep plenty of null and void on you.
*edit stabs on inties make a crying kitten kill baby Jesus
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Lok Ta'car
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Posted - 2006.06.19 15:15:00 -
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My Setup:
[HI] 3x Light Neutron Blasters II
[MED] 1x Afterburner II 1x Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I 1x Fleeting Progressive Warp Scrambler I
[LOW] 2x Magnetic Field Stabilizers II 1x Micro Auxilliary Power Core I
Havent had much experience with this setup but I get a HUGE dmg modifier.
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Rei Toai
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Posted - 2006.06.19 17:35:00 -
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Originally by: Celedris
Originally by: Rei Toai
anyone tried a setup where you kick the MAPC and the ions for electrons and a MFS t2??
has anyone experience with it??
I don't have experience with electrons, but this should fit (less than 0.5 grid left with AWU 3):
H: 3x Electron T2, 'Knave' Nos M: Catalyzed MWD, Scram, Web L: 'Accommodation' SAR, MFS T2, Dam Control
You lose range with the electrons, and you downgrade the nos, mwd & sar a bit. You should do about 15% more damage on your guns though.
yeah that's my main concern - does the better DOT outweigh the shorter range of the blasters? afaik with null ammo you'll get 1 or 1,5km less range (optimal+fall off) .. now i'm not sure about it, if it is viable to use electrons in the hope to get really close asap __________________________________
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steveid
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Posted - 2006.06.19 17:42:00 -
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Originally by: Kragg Malak
Originally by: steveid
3 X ion II's 1 small diminishing 1 afterburner II 2 web (@ least 1 good one) 1 small armor rep II 1 stab 1 t2 damage mod.
2 warrior drones (t2 if poss)
the only people you're gonna kill with that are AFK players. You have nothing preventing them from warping away. Not only that, with the two webs, they'll just warp away faster than you can kill them (if the mechanics on webbers hasnt been changed)
duel web works well against anything above a cruiser level. Just bump the target and he's not going anywhere. As for the damage control, i understand what you are saying, i'm just of the opinion that with a ranis you should use its astounding dps to kill the target fast, rather than try to tank in it.
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Letifer Deus
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Posted - 2006.06.19 17:44:00 -
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Originally by: FraXy Edited by: FraXy on 19/06/2006 12:41:28 .
A good damage control works absolutely wonders on a Taranis, but the best combination that i`ve concluded is 200mm Rolled Tungsten + a good damage control like the F85 Peripheral Damage System
Funny, that is exactly what I run. =) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Brought to you by the letter ARRR!" |
Deathbarrage
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Posted - 2006.06.19 18:38:00 -
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Originally by: steveid
Originally by: Jongo Fett Edited by: Jongo Fett on 18/06/2006 21:26:19 Well heres a lil setup that can churn out the dmg and let u survive
Highs: 3 Ion blasters t2 1 Small Nos MWDS: MWD Scram web >all best u can get Lows: Small Armor rep t2, Dmg Control unit, MAPC
its best to carry loads of void, antimatter and null along. Void for cruisers and above, null and antimatter are great for anti cepter/frig
IMO a damage control on a ceptor is a bit of a waste due to the lack of hull. You'd be better w/ a t2 damage mod.
also ... and your not gonna like this people but if your serious abou7t making money you need to survive ... so a (gimped) setup for you that will help you pick your fights, and run if you need to:
3 X ion II's 1 small diminishing 1 afterburner II 2 web (@ least 1 good one) 1 small armor rep II 1 stab 1 t2 damage mod.
2 warrior drones (t2 if poss)
This will give you great dps, you'll be able to run from any ceptor solo if you need to, and be able to hold down any ceptor you want to fight.
Even if your nossed you should be able to stay in a fight with your own nos, and you should also be able to use your ab with every activation of your nos, alowing you to ab away from the target out of 7.5km scram range if you need to get away.
The duel web will give you the ability to hold down any cruiser or indy you wish to take on, and there are a few other ships i'd consider as well (cyclone aint bad if you get under its guns).
If your fighting a ship w/ drones i highly reccomend using 1 web on the target and 1 on a drone until you pop the drones first (while staying out of 7.5km scram range) but if they are a dedicated drone ship i'd just run most of the time.
Stabs arn't pretty, but if you want to make money from pvp and your new to the ship they arn't all bad. Its a bit like training wheels on a bike. you'll lose some kills because of it when you could just fit extra damage, but you will survive more.
If you dont have advanced weapons upgrades and have trouble fitting any of these setups try downgrading your ab and armor rep to named t1 to save a little grid.
wcs on an inty is just... wrong :/ go mine
you'll not be able to run from any inty cuz they use 7.5k which is 2 point, and everything that's gonna lock you will have a 7.5km bar light missile crows... that being said holy jesus stabs on an inty what's the world coming to
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Benglada
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Posted - 2006.06.19 18:40:00 -
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Edited by: Benglada on 19/06/2006 18:40:54
Originally by: CptEagle PvP is generally not profitable.
Hello, id like to introduce you to the 5 invul IIs and 12 bcu IIs in my hanger, I dont fly caladari
Excuse my spelling im copying bms =( ---------------------------
Originally by: Wrangler Unfrtinately you dnot get to vote..
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Sangxianc
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Posted - 2006.06.20 01:54:00 -
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Hi 3x Electron Blaster
Med MWD Webby Scrambler
Low 200mm Plate Energized Adaptive Nano Damage Control
Use T2/named obviously.
You can preach about damage all you want, but the amount of times this setup hasn't died when it really should have makes it far and away my favourate for this ship.
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