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Justice Bringer	Posted - 2006.06.19 09:24:00 - [31] Originally by: Hub Quantum You can take the ishtar out past 30k, but then it has huge DPS problems due to drone travel time. Dude, you're point is well made but Sentry drones don't need to go anywhere Also there are certain Ishtar setups that allow your drones to get to their target a little quicker than normal, and would prove to be quite awesome in a gang fight. In any case I agree with you that 1 v 1 Ishtar pwns all, even the speedy Vagabond. Justice
Kaeten	Posted - 2006.06.19 09:36:00 - [32] Edited by: Kaeten on 19/06/2006 09:37:57 vaga > ishtar > all others This is excluding ECM. High-Sec Piracy Recruitment
Kaeten	Posted - 2006.06.19 09:37:00 - [33] Originally by: Justice Bringer Originally by: Hub Quantum You can take the ishtar out past 30k, but then it has huge DPS problems due to drone travel time. Dude, you're point is well made but Sentry drones don't need to go anywhere Also there are certain Ishtar setups that allow your drones to get to their target a little quicker than normal, and would prove to be quite awesome in a gang fight. In any case I agree with you that 1 v 1 Ishtar pwns all, even the speedy Vagabond. Justice you haven't met a good vagabond pilot then. High-Sec Piracy Recruitment
Eonov	Posted - 2006.06.19 09:49:00 - [34] There cant really be an all out winner as each has its own differences, and as has been said more than a few times already, with regards to the vaga, it cant possibly be the best anti hac as a vaga will end up dead against a cerb long before the pilot has had a chance to realign and warp out, and long before it can open up significant dmg to the cerb, yet due to resists a cerb will suffer greatly against an ishtar ect ect, anyway, imho hacs should not really look to be fighting other hacs.. members.ams.chello.nl/~rdungen/neo2.jpg[/img] Please resize image to a maximum of 400 x 120, not exceeding 24000 kbs, ty - Cortes
TuRtLe HeAd	Posted - 2006.06.19 09:58:00 - [35] Ishtar, its a solo Hac Pwn Mobile, its the only ship I won't attack in a vaga. (And the Dominix)
Asurix	Posted - 2006.06.19 10:21:00 - [36] And then I get my zealot out and tank your vaga ishtar>all after ishtar it's about the same depending on situation zealot>cerb cerb>vaga zealot>vaga vaga>everything else this is hac vs hac tho, and hac vs hac only occurs in consensual combat on sisi. Overall the most usefull HAC, not talking HAC vs HAC, is no doubt the vagabond, followed closely by the ishtar
LUKEC	Posted - 2006.06.19 10:36:00 - [37] f-aga >all... if it goes sour, he just warp... --------- Dead already?
Deathbarrage	Posted - 2006.06.19 10:38:00 - [38] Originally by: LUKEC f-aga >all... if it goes sour, he just warp... only your stabbabond lukec ;)
Testy Mctest	Posted - 2006.06.19 10:56:00 - [39] Originally by: Asurix zealot>cerb Maybe Quote: cerb>vaga Ya rly Quote: zealot>vaga In which Eve universe is this? Zealots suck the big one vs Vagas. Quote: vaga>everything else Iffy vs Ishtar, other than that, yeh. Sarmaul, Naughty Boy, Weirda, Kaylana, readme please :)
LUKEC	Posted - 2006.06.19 10:59:00 - [40] Edited by: LUKEC on 19/06/2006 11:01:07 Originally by: Deathbarrage Originally by: LUKEC f-aga >all... if it goes sour, he just warp... only your stabbabond lukec ;) Sure.... when i fly one. Which is probably like never. But i fly ishtar and it is pretty much pointless fighting vaga in one. Even if you can scramble it, he will still run. --------- Dead already?

Deathbarrage	Posted - 2006.06.19 11:02:00 - [41] Originally by: Testy Mctest Originally by: Asurix Quote: zealot>vaga In which Eve universe is this? Zealots suck the big one vs Vagas. Quote: heh well I've never had any problems killing a vaga while tanking him all day long but maybe that's just me
Testy Mctest	Posted - 2006.06.19 11:10:00 - [42] Originally by: Deathbarrage heh well I've never had any problems killing a vaga while tanking him all day long but maybe that's just me Maybe Vagas that try to break your tank with Barrage. But you certainly can't tank a Vaga all day - a properly fitted Vaga should outlast your cap easily. Sarmaul, Naughty Boy, Weirda, Kaylana, readme please :)
Ishmael Hansen	Posted - 2006.06.19 11:25:00 - [43] Originally by: Audri Fisher Originally by: Hub Quantum Edited by: Hub Quantum on And the eagle, well the eagle can be hitting you from the next region over. QFT I have seen a tanked to hell eagle shooting at 130km. Doing the damage of an ibis?
Deathbarrage	Posted - 2006.06.19 11:28:00 - [44] Originally by: Testy Mctest Originally by: Deathbarrage heh well I've never had any problems killing a vaga while tanking him all day long but maybe that's just me Maybe Vagas that try to break your tank with Barrage. But you certainly can't tank a Vaga all day - a properly fitted Vaga should outlast your cap easily. i see it very simply tho, and this is my experience aswell: i do the same dps as a vaga yet have a better tank>>>> tata
Iratus Caelestis	Posted - 2006.06.19 11:42:00 - [45] Ishtar would be my choice. The vaga can run but then it's not a 1v1 is it :) Ishtar is the only one that can have an answer to every rock paper scissor in 1v1 whereas a vaga is a two trick pony.
St'oto	Posted - 2006.06.19 12:34:00 - [46] Vagas wont break most hacs tank because they use 5 wcs instead of any damage mod. But its only my experience.
Belhorn Battlebeard	Posted - 2006.06.19 12:40:00 - [47] No mention of the Deimos anywhere? I preume these are pretty naff then? Good job I read this, I was about to buy one. <Belhorn starts looking into the Ishtar> :D
Testy Mctest	Posted - 2006.06.19 12:49:00 - [48] Originally by: St'oto Vagas wont break most hacs tank because they use 5 wcs instead of any damage mod. But its only my experience. To quote myself: "a properly fitted Vaga" 5 WCS does not a properly fitted vaga make. The only reason a Zealot (shooting at a stupidly fast ship with crazy EM/Therm resists) should ever beat a Vaga (shooting at Thermal resists ftw) is because the Vaga pilot doesnt know what he's doing or is at a serious SP deficit. Many ships foil a Vaga. Zealot is not one of them. Sarmaul, Naughty Boy, Weirda, Kaylana, readme please :)
DeadDuck	Posted - 2006.06.19 13:27:00 - [49] I think the ishtar will be the one to beat only because of the EW capabilities, in close range it will be unbeatable, the NOS+EW+Drones will kill all the other HACS. The 2nd best will be the Vagabond it has the tremendous advantage of dictate the way the fight will happen. But we all know that the golden age of HACS has pass. Soon the command ships and recons will take over, much more effective and strong in the 1st case, and cheaper in the 2nd (sometimes better then all the hacs in some cases).
MECHcore	Posted - 2006.06.19 23:34:00 - [50] Nos blastereagle

Valea Silpha	Posted - 2006.06.19 23:55:00 - [51] The ishtar is pretty good. The drones are nasty and difficult to hurt them with med guns. Add nos and ECM and its not easy to fight. The cerbie is good becuase it doesn't have to give a damn about transversal and such like. The vaga wins becuase it can force a stalemate if it wants. Assuming no warp outs, it can either duck inside your tracking, or stay outside your range till you get annoyed and do something stupid. It also has nearly as much offencive kick as the zealot and can choose damage types. Assuming we aren't factoring in full sets of pirate implants and such like, the zealot doesn't get a look in for being a one trick pony. The eagle has a shot if you beagle it up, or start at long range, but i wouldn't back it. Deimos is ignored for pretty much the same reasons as the zealot. Munin is meh. Little better than a rupture, which isn't to say its bad, but its not high flying. Sacrilage is no longer king of tanking and can't do any damage worthy of note. They all have their uses in teh right situation, but against other HACs, most of them blow. <Hammerhead> TomB is doing the nerfing <Hammerhead> I just stand behind him, look at his monitor and shake my head
xenodia	Posted - 2006.06.19 23:58:00 - [52] Originally by: GandalfTHEGrey in your opinion guys, or the generaal opinion, which is the best anti hac hac out there? Ishtar, unless youre fighting a vagabond. Check out my recruiting post here
Audri Fisher	Posted - 2006.06.19 23:59:00 - [53] Originally by: Ishmael Hansen Originally by: Audri Fisher Originally by: Hub Quantum Edited by: Hub Quantum on And the eagle, well the eagle can be hitting you from the next region over. QFT I have seen a tanked to hell eagle shooting at 130km. Doing the damage of an ibis? getting to 130km in an Eagle is childs play with tech II guns. It's when you start going out past 200km that the tank suffers seriously from all the slots needed for sensor boosters, and tracking comps/enhancers to a lesser extent.
xenodia	Posted - 2006.06.20 00:00:00 - [54] Originally by: Kaeten Edited by: Kaeten on 19/06/2006 09:37:57 vaga > ishtar > all others This is excluding ECM. Vaga cant kill my ishtar, but then I cant catch him either unless he blunders too close. Its a draw. Check out my recruiting post here
Sir Bart	Posted - 2006.06.20 05:11:00 - [55] No votes for a Deimos? It can get into range on a vaga (unless the vaga is running as soon as the fight starts), it can out damage and out tank a vaga.... just can't fight out of web range so I don't know if it can overwhelm the tank of stuff like the ishtar and Sacriledge. Or go blow for blow with the zealot or the cerb. -SB. We need a separate thread for anti-vaga setups maybe. I think Deimos gets my vote there. But... there's not enough vaga's around to waste our time.
Letifer Deus	Posted - 2006.06.20 05:58:00 - [56] Edited by: Letifer Deus on 20/06/2006 05:59:31 nm ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Brought to you by the letter ARRR!"
Prestis	Posted - 2006.06.20 07:25:00 - [57] Ishtar by far. It's dropping a battleship-sized drone bay on you. Better infact, their drones get a damage bonus the Domi's don't. Every other HAC is using cruiser weapons.
Iratus Caelestis	Posted - 2006.06.20 09:12:00 - [58] Originally by: Sir Bart No votes for a Deimos? It can get into range on a vaga (unless the vaga is running as soon as the fight starts), it can out damage and out tank a vaga.... just can't fight out of web range so I don't know if it can overwhelm the tank of stuff like the ishtar and Sacriledge. Or go blow for blow with the zealot or the cerb. -SB. We need a separate thread for anti-vaga setups maybe. I think Deimos gets my vote there. But... there's not enough vaga's around to waste our time. Deimos is brilliant as a gang ship but blaster ships f'ing suck solo. If you hit Nanofibers to it then its not bad but you need a big wallet and bigger balls :) One of the above posters is right about Command Ships though. My astarte is faster than my deimos, hits much harder than my Deimos (well over 1000 dps with blasters, nigh on 700 with rails) tanks WAAAAYY better than my Deimos and draws with my Ishtar. Only downside is that I can make a cup of tea waiting for it to warp.
Jenny Spitfire	Posted - 2006.06.20 09:39:00 - [59] Originally by: Jim McGregor Edited by: Jim McGregor on 18/06/2006 21:11:37 Jenny, you use those? If you selling them to me cheaply. ---------------- RecruitMe@NOINT!


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