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Catalytic morphisis
Rock Huggers Inc The Pears of Anguish
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Posted - 2014.06.22 08:25:00 -
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Quick question for anyone using these new vapourisers as I recently purchased one.
I'm basically looking to cut nicotine out over time with this thing as a sort of alternative to Nicotine Patches/Tablets (They both did not work for me in the slightest) and I'm basically just wondering at what interval people would say is the best to start lowering the Nicotine strength? I'm 23 and have been smoking for 9 years, Not sure if that has any effect on the duration to stick at a certain nicotine level.
Anyone who knows anything about them and could offer some info I'd be very grateful to |
Ralph King-Griffin
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
2176
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Posted - 2014.06.22 09:08:00 -
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try different "juices" until you find one that feels satisfying to you , not strictly nice but gives that sensation. Its not smoking, don't pretend it is, however it is the only thing iv tried in the last decade that combats the habit .
you can regulate the strength of your doses, the duration of them and their interval much better with one than you can with cigarets so id be hard pressed to advise you a plan but im certain you can work something out ,
hers an Irish forum on vaporizers and "vaping"(needs another name) in general . "CAKE CANNOT HOLD UP TO BEING A CHARACTER DAMNIT."
Unsuccessful At Everything |
Catalytic morphisis
Rock Huggers Inc The Pears of Anguish
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Posted - 2014.06.22 09:23:00 -
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oh no doubt it isn't smoking, All I was saying was that I have been smoking for 9 years and looking to use this to kill the habit so to speak. Thanks for the advice though I'll keep on playing with the different juices and see how it goes. |
Matilda Cecilia Fock
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
154
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Posted - 2014.06.22 09:26:00 -
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There's a juicy market niche for those devices, which nobody has exploited yet: use them as flavor dispensers.
It's wet, warm and tastes good, but it haves no calories and no effects on your body: flavored vapor is the ultimate sweetmeat. Q: So many well known dev's left lately, should we be worried? A: (Jester): Nope. (...) Worry a lot if Fozzie, Masterplan, Rise, Veritas, Bettik, Ytterbium, Scarpia, Arrow, or even Greyscale leaves. Worry a little if Punkturis, karkur, SoniClover, Affinity, Goliath, or Xhagen leaves.
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Rain6637
Team Evil
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Posted - 2014.06.22 11:21:00 -
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vape is a nicotine replacement, like the patch. I'm not sure where the quitting aid idea comes from.
I think if you're looking to quit nicotine, the best way is deciding to do without it altogether (cold turkey). I've found that reducing the nicotine percentage is simply unsatisfying. I use 32% straight, 50/50 VG PG, though right now i'm out of PG as a result of my roomies using it in their fail flavor concoctions.
I don't like flavors, not in the lungs. I'm just in it for the hit
I gave up smoking for the sake of my platoon before deploying to Iraq as a medic (was not a medic the other two deployments, and smoked heavily)... started dip... then moved to vape. Vape is cheap, unobtrusive, and clean--I'm happy with it. but it was never my intention to quit nicotine.
as for hardware, I have a 30$ rechargable that uses a mini-USB for charging, and you can use it at the same time. for the nth time I woke up one morning and forgot to charge my conventional battery. President of the Commissar Kate Fanclub | Rainfleet on Twitch | Twitter | Rainfleet mk.III | Imgur |
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
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Posted - 2014.06.22 13:27:00 -
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Catalytic morphisis wrote:Quick question for anyone using these new vapourisers as I recently purchased one.
I'm basically looking to cut nicotine out over time with this thing as a sort of alternative to Nicotine Patches/Tablets (They both did not work for me in the slightest) and I'm basically just wondering at what interval people would say is the best to start lowering the Nicotine strength? I'm 23 and have been smoking for 9 years, Not sure if that has any effect on the duration to stick at a certain nicotine level.
Anyone who knows anything about them and could offer some info I'd be very grateful to
That's interesting, as these are now considered a gateway for kids before leading into the real thing.
Lots of laws are coming down on these soon in the US.
The only thing that even began to work for me was Chantix. But unfortunately, a lot of people react badly to it as I did. After a few months on it, I started "behaving strangely", and I could even tell I was. That was it for me.
I've been smoking for 32 years, and I guess the only way to stop...is to stop.
But don't forget, If you do manage to quit on any method, it's still going to be an uphill battle the ret of your life to stay off smoking. The brain never forgets what it likes, be it nicotine or alcohol.
IT'S A TRAP ! "He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."-á - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882 |
Ranzabar
Ratio 1.618 Corp
93
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Posted - 2014.06.23 03:59:00 -
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The fact that you don't breath the products of combustion, and the crap that goes into a butt is a big advantage for eCigs. The water used has yet to be evaluated. Could be full of crap too, other than the Nicotine. But the thing about eCigs is that they introduce vapor into your lungs like an inhaler. If you're immune suppressed, could be a possible way to get pneumonia. Maybe.
That said, eCig vs. lighting up? eCig all the way. For you and everyone around you. Here in the States, the regs are coming soon. Vape while you can. Abide |
ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors Late Night Alliance
5617
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Posted - 2014.06.23 06:26:00 -
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My experience with the E-cigarettes/Vaporizers in general has been this...
- it doesn't really kill the cravings. It just takes the edge off. You have to WANT to cut cigarettes/cigars/hookahs from your life in the first place. edit: though, the E-cig/Vape is FAR more satisfying than chewing gum or using a patch.
- Related to the above point... if you are like me and enjoy a good smoke when drinking, you are REALLY going to feel that craving. Best way to stick to the vaporizer is to also limit your drinking habits.
- If you have a tendency to "fall of the wagon" then try to keep your vaping experience interesting. Try different flavors that appeal to you... there is quite a selection to choose from.
- losing power while you are out and about is a *****... especially when you are prone to "falling off the wagon." Be mindful of your battery levels before you go out. Bring your charger if you think you will be out for awhile.
- try NOT to keep them in your pant pockets. You risk bending them to the point where the seals might break... which can result in liquids leaking out (making your pants smell funky) or sweat/water getting into the electrical components (shorting things out).
With regards to E-cigarettes/Vaporizers themselves...
- Do not get some cheapo garbage thing for less than 15 bucks. This is one of those things where you get where you pay for.
- I highly recommend getting one with a refillable head like this one: Lucid Vapes Starter Kit Note: I have been using this one for about a year. I only had to replace the head component once (I broke it) and the replacement head I got was quite nice. (it could be easily taken apart and the igniter/atomizer replaced for less than $10 USD)
- The igniter/atomizer is the only hardware you will have to replace regularly. Some heads will allow you to replace JUST that small bit while other heads have it built-in and need to be replaced entirely. Igniters/atomizers usually last for about a month... maybe a bit longer if you only occasionally smoke. You will easily be able to tell when it is time to replace it as you will be consistently sucking up globs of fluid rather than vapor.
- The E-fluid itself is mostly to taste. Cheaper stuff will work fine but I found that they tend to be rather "light" and "watery"... resulting in a hotter vapor (which can be quite unsatisfying). More expensive fluid will taste richer and sweeter. Starbuzz was a favorite brand of mine. Change isn't bad, but it isn't always good. Sometimes, the oldest and most simple of things can be the most elegant and effective.
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Marsha Mallow
1126
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Posted - 2014.06.23 12:03:00 -
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Can't tell where you are from, but if it's the UK you could make an appointment at your GP surgery with the practice nurse for smoking cessation. They aren't really allowed to discuss E-Cigs at the moment as they aren't regulated, but they can give good advice about cessation techniques and how to reduce your nicotine levels. When I went she advised max dose for anyone smoking more than 15 a day (and did a test to check my levels). They can also issue you some support stuff to use alongside the E-Cig and it works out cheaper on prescription than buying off the shelf. I got gum, an inhaler, patches and a mouth spray - the spray is really strong, you can definitely feel the effect. The appointments are useful for some people as they get you to set targets and aim to reduce your intake, rather than just leave you to struggle with it.
So far though, I know 3 people who have quit using E-Cigs without going to their GP, including a friends mother who was a 40yr smoker on 40+ a day. The cheap E-Cigs I tried from supermarkets are a bit crap - don't really like the taste, and they don't always say what the nicotine levels are. They also made me wheeze a bit initially, but I had a cold at the time. You need a few as well, as they tend to charge down if you are out and about for longer than a day (it's worth carrying your recharger and a spare about). A friend gave me a pricier one she'd got online that was a lot better, had a few different flavours. Despite being a bit more expensive, they are still really cheap compared to cigarettes. I'm just about to order a kit myself and make a follow up appointment, fingers crossed. TO THE RIPARDMOBILE! |
Catalytic morphisis
Rock Huggers Inc The Pears of Anguish
55
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Posted - 2014.06.23 12:10:00 -
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I've had gum, Inhaler thing, Patches and mouth spray before to no avail, I suck in regards to willpower but to be fair the e-cig is doing the job so far, no craving really which is a first! |
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Pepper Solette
University of Caille Gallente Federation
403
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Posted - 2014.06.23 12:27:00 -
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There's a huge write-up here in the forums that one gent wrote.
I found the link for you: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=255448
Akita T seems to have a hell of a lot of knowledge about the topic as well.
Hope this helps you out.
-áMiko Sunji:-á "There is no better way to find out if you can swim, than swimming for your life."
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Catalytic morphisis
Rock Huggers Inc The Pears of Anguish
55
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Posted - 2014.06.24 10:34:00 -
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cheers for the help guys, Definitely doing good for me so far, 10 days cigarette free, Longest I've been smoke free, Cheers for all the help and advice. |
Slade Trillgon
Brutor Force Federated
3003
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Posted - 2014.06.24 14:09:00 -
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Take your time. With cigarettes I started with limiting myself to 1 cig/hour, then one every 2 hours.... I am sure you could do something similar with the nicotine total cartridges smoked or total number of puffs per min/hour/day. |
Catalytic morphisis
Rock Huggers Inc The Pears of Anguish
55
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Posted - 2014.06.24 14:22:00 -
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Slade Trillgon wrote:Take your time. With cigarettes I started with limiting myself to 1 cig/hour, then one every 2 hours.... I am sure you could do something similar with the nicotine total cartridges smoked or total number of puffs per min/hour/day.
This sounds like a good idea, I started doing this prior to my Ecig arriving and has helped a lot, Might be worth limiting the amount of puffs an hour since being that I can sit in work with it I find myself using it a lot currently |
Debora Tsung
The Investment Bankers Guild
1143
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Posted - 2014.06.25 06:27:00 -
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Catalytic morphisis wrote:Quick question for anyone using these new vapourisers as I recently purchased one.
I'm basically looking to cut nicotine out over time with this thing as a sort of alternative to Nicotine Patches/Tablets (They both did not work for me in the slightest) and I'm basically just wondering at what interval people would say is the best to start lowering the Nicotine strength? I'm 23 and have been smoking for 9 years, Not sure if that has any effect on the duration to stick at a certain nicotine level.
Anyone who knows anything about them and could offer some info I'd be very grateful to A colleague of mine (chain smoker) got one, too. he used to "borrow" the liquids from another colleague. After four weeks he finally noticed that those were liquids without any nicotine in them. He stopped smoking after that.
Realy I don't see the point of smoking stuff without drugs in it. It's like smoking pot without any of the fun. Stupidity should be a bannable offense.
Also This --> https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=216699 Please stop making "afk cloak" threads, thanks in advance. |
Reaver Glitterstim
Dromedaworks inc Test Alliance Please Ignore
1605
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Posted - 2014.06.30 23:41:00 -
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The problem is that cigarettes have a wide variety of drugs and other toxins that you gain a physiological dependence to. Those patches and vaporisers only provide the nicotine.
My advice: smoke actual cigarettes but just don't smoke as much as desired. Always leave yourself short. Get a lighter variety if you don't like wasting part of the cigarette. There are ultra-light varieties with an extra-long filter that can be torn off halfway. Salem ultra-lights are good for that. Might be a good choice for final cigarette. By the time you are ready to step below those, you might be able to get off with just patches, gum, or e-cigs. Alternatively, if you can step off the other toxins from smoking, you could just let yourself remain addicted to nicotine and keep getting it from those other much less toxic sources. It's not really the nicotine that hurts you so much in the long run, you know. Fit a warfare link to your tech 1 battlecruiser. Train Wing Commander. Get in the Squad Commander or Wing Commander position. Your fleets will be superior to everyone else's. (had this sig BEFORE Odyssey BC rebalance) "What if [climate change is] a big hoax and we create a better world for nothing?" -comic on Greenmonk |
Ralph King-Griffin
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
2366
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Posted - 2014.07.01 09:56:00 -
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Reaver Glitterstim wrote: My advice: smoke actual cigarettes .
*beep* "Confirming EVE is hot, batshit crazy, and puts out." -Omar Alharazaad "CAKE CANNOT HOLD UP TO BEING A CHARACTER DAMNIT." --áUnsuccessful At Everything |
Zimmy Zeta
Lisa Needs Braces.
41938
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Posted - 2014.07.01 10:09:00 -
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Debora Tsung wrote:Realy I don't see the point of smoking stuff without drugs in it. It's like smoking pot without any of the fun.
You'd be surprised how high people can get on smoking cookie dough alone, if you made them believe it's pot. Never underestimate the placebo effect.
I'd like to apologize for the poor quality of the post above and sincerely hope you didn't waste your time reading it. Yes, I do feel bad about it.
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Catalytic morphisis
Rock Huggers Inc The Pears of Anguish
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Posted - 2014.07.01 10:43:00 -
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Reaver Glitterstim wrote:The problem is that cigarettes have a wide variety of drugs and other toxins that you gain a physiological dependence to. Those patches and vaporisers only provide the nicotine.
My advice: smoke actual cigarettes but just don't smoke as much as desired. Always leave yourself short. Get a lighter variety if you don't like wasting part of the cigarette. There are ultra-light varieties with an extra-long filter that can be torn off halfway. Salem ultra-lights are good for that. Might be a good choice for final cigarette. By the time you are ready to step below those, you might be able to get off with just patches, gum, or e-cigs. Alternatively, if you can step off the other toxins from smoking, you could just let yourself remain addicted to nicotine and keep getting it from those other much less toxic sources. It's not really the nicotine that hurts you so much in the long run, you know. I've been off cigarettes for a few weeks now, So I'm not going to go back to them, The vaporiser is helping me out a lot, Helps a lot so I think I'm good now, Found a nicotine fluid that is nice and works for me too so I'm happy Quad Boxing Trading Extroadinaire, Actual Link free solo PvP'er |
Ralph King-Griffin
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
2371
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Posted - 2014.07.01 10:49:00 -
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Catalytic morphisis wrote:Reaver Glitterstim wrote:The problem is that cigarettes have a wide variety of drugs and other toxins that you gain a physiological dependence to. Those patches and vaporisers only provide the nicotine.
My advice: smoke actual cigarettes but just don't smoke as much as desired. Always leave yourself short. Get a lighter variety if you don't like wasting part of the cigarette. There are ultra-light varieties with an extra-long filter that can be torn off halfway. Salem ultra-lights are good for that. Might be a good choice for final cigarette. By the time you are ready to step below those, you might be able to get off with just patches, gum, or e-cigs. Alternatively, if you can step off the other toxins from smoking, you could just let yourself remain addicted to nicotine and keep getting it from those other much less toxic sources. It's not really the nicotine that hurts you so much in the long run, you know. I've been off cigarettes for a few weeks now, So I'm not going to go back to them, The vaporiser is helping me out a lot, Helps a lot so I think I'm good now, Found a nicotine fluid that is nice and works for me too so I'm happy happy to hear dude. "Confirming EVE is hot, batshit crazy, and puts out." -Omar Alharazaad "CAKE CANNOT HOLD UP TO BEING A CHARACTER DAMNIT." --áUnsuccessful At Everything |
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Belt Scout
Thread Lockaholics Anonymous
578
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Posted - 2014.07.30 21:03:00 -
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Little late to this convo.
Congrats on losing the sticks Op. I've been vaping for almost 2 years now after smoking a pack a day (Marbs) for the better part of 25 years.
Obviously, I can breath much better, and my sense of smell and taste has improved tremendously. The amount of energy I have has greatly increased, and gone are the disgusting coughs in the morning etc... I wouldn't even consider going back to the smokes.
Half the eCig battle is finding a liquid that suits you. I can't stand the tobacco type liquids anymore, and i tend to lean towards the some of the fruity ones, and some of the sweet ones. Puffing on a great lemon custard flavored one that i hit with a few drops of mint concentrate and loving it. Freaking yummmm x10. For nic strength, use a liquid that just about gives you what you need, then try dropping the strength when you become used to it. I'm at 6mg per ml now.
The other half of the eCig battle is finding decent gear to use. Those little plastic tank starter kits with the eGo battery are great for trying out vaping, but they mute the flavors quite a bit. (Not to mention reloading the 1.6ml tanks, dry hits or burn hits, tight draw, etc...) My current 'out and about' rig is an Aerotank v2 on an eVic mod. With a 2 ohm coil and set to 8 watts, it vapes real nice and holds almost 4ml's of liquid. At home, I have an iTaste 134 and a Russian 91% (1.8ohm micro coil, cotton wicked, @ 9 or 10 watts) to puff on. This beast is about the size of a light sabre and it runs great, but I keep it indoors as not to scare the general public and get the National Guard involved in my nicotine consumption.
Hope ya stick with it and good luck. If I can help answer any questions, feel free to drop an evemail as i tend to lose track of these threads.
o/
They say most of your brain shuts down on the EvE forums. All but the impatient side, and the sarcastic side. No wonder I'm still awake. |
VaDaath Dethahal
AlterX Technologies
10
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Posted - 2014.07.30 21:38:00 -
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tl;dr Best of luck to all who are in the process of kicking the habit.
Reading this has kicked up my craving for a smoke to the nth degree, lol
Bit of a history, been smoking since I have been 14 yrs old, so roughly 30 yrs of my life I have spent sucking back all of those chemicals. I never really tried kicking the habit until last year when a friend of mine introduced me to the eCigs. I initially started off with some concotion of nicotine and some flavor stuff. It worked quite well, I was able to eventually cut out the nicotine completely and just use whatever flavor was out there.
I was smoke free but found myself relying on the vapor eCigs which I felt was just a substitute, I haven't really kept up on if they are detrimental to ones health or not but I just felt as if I didn't really accomplish much.
So I decided to try the nicotine patches and was able to work through the program and was smoke free for 3 months, lol. Someone mentioned that you never really kick the habit and today I started the patch treatment once again. As can be surmised I couldn't resist and started smoking again.
I really do want to quit so I started with the patches again and I hope to be able to have a better go at it this time.
To all of those who have tried quiting are in the process or just thinking about it, best of luck. Whatever works, works! |
Emiko P'eng
121
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Posted - 2014.08.02 10:25:00 -
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The main problem with these things are they are so new that there are no regulations to cover their manufacture.
The result is that some are literally ticking time bombs.
The main problems being shoddy chargers, poor designs or total lack of instructions or warnings over how they are charged.
Daily Mirror - Watch e-cigarette EXPLODE and set fire to barmaid in busy pub
Fox 13 Salt Lake City - Child burned after e-cigarette explodes in car charger
So if you want to use them as a route to help give up, make sure you buy a recognised brand or at least from a reputable shop or company that will refund you if it does explode!
Alerts from our small sector alone in the UK this year has so far had
one exploded while being charged from the office PC USB socket, burning papers on the desk and melting the plastic wood desk surface, no one hurt. The second was a charger caught fire as it was not designed to be left on when there was no e-cigarette plugged in, smoke damage up wall and lost time due to fire alarm evacuation. |
Rain6637
Team Evil
15532
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Posted - 2014.08.02 19:51:00 -
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scare tactics. batteries do that. as for health and safety, research what you consume ofc.
in related news, I bought 750 mL of nicotine suspended in Propylene Glycol, which is classified by the FDA as GRASGenerally Regarded as Safe.
and nicotine is nicotine. you should know what you're doing to yourself with it.
250 mL lasts me about a year. the 3-year supply I ordered runs me less than $60. pretty good improvement over the cost of conventional nicotine.
By the way, 48 mg / mL is very, very strong. for most hardcore smokers I would suggest 36 or 24. and yes, I use just the nicotine suspension and no flavors.
I'm hoarding for the time being, because regulation will drive the price up. It also occurred to me recently that 'big tobacco' probably has a profit motive for suppressing e-cig sales. In case they're successful sometime in the future I'm putting away a stash now. President of the Commissar Kate Fanclub | Rainfleet on Twitch | Twitter | Rainfleet mk.III | Imgur |
Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
1984
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Posted - 2014.08.02 20:40:00 -
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Yeah, scare tactics. You're probably just as likely to get hurt by a laptop, smartphone, or tablet - anything with rechargeable batteries, basically. And I don't really see anybody throwing those away out of fear.
Wow, has it really been more than a year since that thread? I highly recommend anybody curious about ecigs to parse that first
Rain6637 wrote:in related news, I bought 750 mL of nicotine suspended in Propylene Glycol [...] 250 mL lasts me about a year [...] By the way, 48 mg / mL is very, very strong. for most hardcore smokers I would suggest 36 or 24. and yes, I use just the nicotine suspension and no flavors. if it tastes really good you're only causing another habit anyway. the pure suspension is the hit that smokers, and dippers, are looking for I use about 400-500 ml per year myself at 24-36 mg/ml I've switched over to home-made liquids exclusively a few months ago, as I was finding it harder and harder to find decent flavours in 100% PG liquid.
The advantage of 100% PG bases (and by the way, you can find enough of various nicotine concentrations, from 6 mg/ml up to over 60 mg/ml) is that they're so pure that if you add your own flavours in small enough quantities, whenever you exhale after holding the vapor in even one second, you can barely see anything at all. I call it "stealth vaping"
Also, I really don't mind the nicotine, quite the opposite - it generally replaces coffeine for me, and also doubles as an appetite suppressant (which I can really, really use, given my weight and propensity for gourmet binges). Therefore, for me at least, it's actually a welcome habit which I'm not likely to quit any time soon even if it wouldn't taste nicely. So anyway, why not have a pleasant taste/smell to go along with it then? http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/User:Akita_T Build your own EVE PC http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=1559734 |
Rain6637
Team Evil
15536
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Posted - 2014.08.02 21:01:00 -
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the taste is wasted on my lungs, so I see it as unnecessary. i'm involving them in something they aren't required for (the taste).
compared to not vaping at all (as a baseline), flavors are just another contaminant.
even if I found a flavor that I liked (I haven't), it would be another 'thing' that adds a cost to this habit, and an additional component to the ritual. I like nicotine, and the motivation behind e-cigging is simplifying it as much as possible and reducing the cost.
I've also heard (I've only heard this as a rumor and have not investigated myself) that vape users have caught pneumonia from their e-cigs. I suspect the bacteria grow in the flavor component of the liquid.... nicotine and Propylene Glycol are not conducive to bacteria.
side note: the other suspension Glycerol--Vegetable derived glycerin--is not safe against bacteria like Propylene Glycol. Glycerol is a carbohydrate with a caloric density similar to table sugar. It happens to cause irritation in my throat, so I don't use it at all. President of the Commissar Kate Fanclub | Rainfleet on Twitch | Twitter | Rainfleet mk.III | Imgur |
Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
1984
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Posted - 2014.08.02 21:14:00 -
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PG is actually both antibacterial and antifungal. Only liquids with a significant VG component are prone to cause any microbial contamination, with pure PG, no chance. Even if flavours would be a decent growth medium for any infestation, the fact you only use such a tiny quantity in pure PG makes it next to impossible to have any problems.
I don't really like any particular commercial flavour either. I used to mix several commercial liquids before to get one that was satisfactory taste-wise. Nowadays I'm just mixing different amounts but still minuscule quantities of up to a dozen different flavours into the pure PG base. http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/User:Akita_T Build your own EVE PC http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=1559734 |
Rain6637
Team Evil
15536
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Posted - 2014.08.02 21:15:00 -
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**** VG tho. and flavors President of the Commissar Kate Fanclub | Rainfleet on Twitch | Twitter | Rainfleet mk.III | Imgur |
Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
1984
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Posted - 2014.08.02 21:30:00 -
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Last batch was something like:
~9.5 ml 36mg/ml pure PG base PLUS 1 drop (~0.025ml) menthol flavour 1 drop blackberry flavour 1 drop raspberry flavour 1 drop strawberry flavour 2 drops orange flavour 4+2 drops honey flavours (two different types) 1 drop yellow melon flavour 3 drops grape flavour 2 drops vanilla flavour 1 drop black pepper flavour 1 drop oregano flavour = ~10 ml home-made liquid of ~34 mg/ml nicotine ...and the flavours are (not at all surprisingly) mostly pure PG themselves with the relevant aromatic compounds thrown in :P http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/User:Akita_T Build your own EVE PC http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=1559734 |
Christina Project
Screaming Head in a Box.
543
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Posted - 2014.08.02 21:43:00 -
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My dad was heavy smoker. Like, four packs a day. Every f'n day! For fourty years!
Then he started vaporizing and simply dropped nicotine completely!
Go for it, you can do it!! http://residentoutlaw.tumblr.com - How to stop a Freighter from getting bumped ][ Screaming Head in a Box --áhttp://i.imgur.com/oEkByYX.jpg
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
1984
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Posted - 2014.08.05 04:46:00 -
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Side-note: IF that's what you do want (as I said, it was never my intention to begin with), it is a lot easier to give up nicotine (or at least drastically reduce it) after a successful transition from smoking to vaping. That's because you have already managed to break a few of the more annoying to give up habits: - the "fetch and light up a new cigarette" reflex - a pretty powerful one too (I was still reflexively grabbing after a cigarette nearly two months after the transition) - the "morning wooziness kick" - there's none of that with vaping, the "satiated with nicotine" sensation slowly builds up with vaping, it's not a sudden WHAM like with cigarettes
As to WHEN you should start lowering your nicotine content (without a major risk of "fall-back", that is)? I'd say whenever you find yourself simply forgetting to draw any puffs from your vaporizer for a few hours even if it's somewhere handy, and whenever you start being repulsed by the smell of fresh "regular cigarette" smoke. That could be anywhere between 2 months to 6 months after switching, I guess it depends on the person. http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/User:Akita_T Build your own EVE PC http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=1559734 |
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