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Bayta Darrel
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Posted - 2006.06.23 15:03:00 -
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But if you use one, I guess you already know that right?
So how come if you set the mobile lab to "corporation", and NOT "roles", you still need rent research, factory manager, etc? Those are ROLES. -------------------------------------------- I love work. Work fascinates me. I could sit and look at it for hours. |
Jobie Thickburger
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Posted - 2006.06.23 15:37:00 -
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Originally by: Bayta Darrel But if you use one, I guess you already know that right?
So how come if you set the mobile lab to "corporation", and NOT "roles", you still need rent research, factory manager, etc? Those are ROLES.
Because you are accessing BPOs from a Corporate hanger array if you are doing them at the POS. Once placed in the corp hanger array, they are considered "corp property" and you are required to have the needed access rights to be able to use them.
Your stuck researching them in a station from your hanger, Unless mabey if you get the scientific networking skill high enough to reach the POS. Note that that's just speculation though about the Sci-Networking skill.
CEO - MGTTG
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Bayta Darrel
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Posted - 2006.06.23 16:18:00 -
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Doing it from your own hangar is impossible, I accept that. But I've been trying to do it from a corp hangar section that I have full access to. -------------------------------------------- I love work. Work fascinates me. I could sit and look at it for hours. |
Mattduk
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Posted - 2006.06.25 11:06:00 -
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Edited by: Mattduk on 25/06/2006 11:07:19 We are getting the same message no matter where the print is.
Whether it is in a personal hangar
Whether it is in a corp hangar at a station
Whether it is in the Mobile Lab's hangar array (access storage)
No matter where....
Same message... you cannot do this because you need rent factory slot, rent lab slot roles.
Manage screen access tab has the mobile lab set to 'Corporation' for all three options.
Manage assemblyline screen has the check box 'Allow corporation members' checked for all slots...
Still same problem.
I refuse to give everyone in the corp the roles to rent factory slots so they can do their personal research at the expense of our shareholders. That's just daft.
Come on CCP, get your thumb out of your arse, stop giving the alliances new big flashy expensive toys and tech II blueprint originals and lets see if we can't fix a bug or two eh? Because I find it impossoble to believe that the mobile lab currently fucntions as was intended.
Although.... maybe an idiot designed it...
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Aldir Rundal
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Posted - 2006.06.25 18:41:00 -
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*cough* I hope you guys don't already have one person researching something in that lab. Seeing how you can only have one person doing anything with that lab at any given time. Meaning, if one member wants to install one and only one thing, you're essentially wasting 4 slots, because you cannot put in more jobs belonging to more than one owner.
If your lab is completely free, then go ahead and accuse CCP, or better yet, Bug report it.
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ReaperOfSly
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Posted - 2006.06.25 19:37:00 -
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Edited by: ReaperOfSly on 25/06/2006 19:39:30 The fact tat you can set usage charges on mobile labs implies they are meant to be able to research stuff out of a personal hangar. As it is, it charges money from the corp wallet and deposits it in the corp wallet. Like buying your own stuff off the market. Daft.
It does not allow personal use, therefore it is a bug. --------------------------------------------------------------------
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franny
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Posted - 2006.06.25 23:26:00 -
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you want worse, do an alliance copy from corp hanger in npc station.... let me know how that goes
I set mine to 1b install, 1b per hour, just to make sure noone uses it
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Audrea
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Posted - 2006.06.26 02:25:00 -
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I am not sure I understood what bug are you complaining about...
I have played a bit with mobile labs, they work just fine, but you have to transfer the bpo into the lab's hangar array, and only then right click and start research.
Also it works for more than 1 corp member... I know cause corp mate put something into research as well parallel to me.
So, either I didnt understand what the bug is, or that bug manifests only in systems with outposts? ------------------ If you are tired of fleet combat lag, post HERE
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Utoxin
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Posted - 2006.06.26 07:38:00 -
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I also haven't had any problems with mobile labs. My corp has a high sec research POS, and it's doing quite nicely. I can add jobs from the corp hangar from a distance, I can check on the status, I can deliver them, everything. The only reason I have to go to the POS itself is to pick up copies. Wish they got delivered to the origin of the BPO. Oh well.
Soon I'll be able to manage our ammo and drone assemblers remotely too. That'll be nice. :)
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ReaperOfSly
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Posted - 2006.06.26 10:41:00 -
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If you're having no problems with it, it means you've been assigned the roles Rent Research Slot, Factory Manager, etc. Some people don't have this luxury. --------------------------------------------------------------------
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bobeeb
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Posted - 2006.06.26 11:51:00 -
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after moving our pos to another system, allymembers cant use our labs anymore they got a failure msg like you are not in that corp, very strange. settings are same as in old system
before moving all worked fine and allymembers did t1 me and pe jobs in the mobile labs and now only our corp can access i thougt first it has something to do with repacking, but even after unanchoring, repack an reanchor the same thing , our allymembers get a msg they are not in the corp and have no access
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franny
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Posted - 2006.06.26 12:24:00 -
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bobeeb, was it repacked for the move? take it down, repack it, and redeploy it
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Mattduk
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Posted - 2006.06.26 15:39:00 -
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Oh dear...
Ok...
yes more than one person can use a mobile lab. You do not waste slots. We currently have more than one person (who is authorised to) using the first mobile lab.
However, we wish to open a second mobile lab for corp members to use.
If a corp member has the role 'rent lab slots' then he will be able to use the second lab. However if they don't then it complains that they need to have the role.
I have changed the lab access settings in the manage screen to 'Corporation'. This has had zero effect on the lab. Those with roles can use the mobile lab with this set to 'corporation' or 'roles'. It doesn't matter.
I have changed each and every 'assemblyline' setting in the science and industry screen to 'allow corporation members'. This had zero affect on the lab. Those with the roles can use the mobile lab with this check box checked, or without it checked. It doesn't matter.
So... as you can see, those two settings I have changed, have had zero affect on the mechanics of the mobile lab. Those with roles could use the lab before, and after making the changes. It hasn't made a sodding bit of difference.
Now... let's say I give the entire corp the roles 'rent lab slot'. This means that every member of our corporation will be able to rent a lab slot from a corporate hangar they have access to anywhere in eve, for free. The corp will pay for it. Clearly I don't want to do that!!!
Sooooo.... now do you understand the predicament? Now do you understand why I slammed CCP? Now do you understand why you clearly don't have a clue how the labs work based on your comment?
Thanks for your time, but does anyone here actually know how to get it work? Or is the vast silence because of an apparant bug?
Cheers in advance for your help.... Mattduk
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Mattduk
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Posted - 2006.06.26 15:48:00 -
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Edited by: Mattduk on 26/06/2006 15:52:48 Oh, and one other thing... Those two people, the one who has it all peachy and life is grand, and (maybe) the other, who managed to get alliance pilots able to use his lab... can you maybe, post your settings? So that this thread actually becomes useful?
Apologies for the frustration, but I got peeps throwing out all kinds of nonsense in this thread, and a corp member posting 'read between the lines' messages, aimed at winging that I won't give him the roles as a workaround...
...and then one guy, who happens to have the time to tell us how wonderful life is at his high sec pos, but fails to share how this is possible! I mean, as I suffer here, fiddling with checkboxes, and pulling out what little hair I have left, there's nothing I'd rather read than how Prince Peaches over there has a fully functional mobil lab, yet doesn't seem inclined to part with the secrets of how to set on up!!
Arrrgggggg......
Thanks again in advance for any constructive help.
Regards Mattduk
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ReaperOfSly
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Posted - 2006.06.26 16:58:00 -
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Edited by: ReaperOfSly on 26/06/2006 16:59:27
Originally by: Mattduk a corp member posting 'read between the lines' messages, aimed at winging that I won't give him the roles as a workaround...
Hold on a sec while I sc*****the last remaining pieces of egg off my face. There we go...
Edit: "S.C.R.A.P.E" is not a swear word, you silly filter --------------------------------------------------------------------
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Mattduk
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Posted - 2006.06.26 21:23:00 -
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LOL!
Gotcha! ;)
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Ductape
Minmatar Cursed Spawn Knights Of the Southerncross
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Posted - 2006.08.25 23:36:00 -
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I am not sure if anyone is still foloowing this thread, but i have had the problems described here, and I also think i understand WHY some ppl can do it an some can't
Here's what work for me:
1. Putting the BPO in lab hanagar and right-clicking.
2. Putting the BPO in the corp hangar in a STATION, not at the POS.
Thats it. thats the only way i have been able to make it find my BPOs and set jobs remotely.
For some reason, BPOs i place in a corp hanagar array, will not show up in the Science & INdustry interface, And so then, I am not able to set jobs remotely.
Only by placing the BPOs in a corp hangar within proper station, in th same system as the POS have i been able to get the BPOs to register in the Science & Industry interface.
Once the are safe and sound in a station, I have been able to freely set jobs at a distance my skills allow.
That's it. just saying what works for me. I am CEO of the corp so im not sure how this affects other problems ppl are having.
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Yowras Tothlir
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Posted - 2006.08.26 06:04:00 -
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I too am having a similar problem. I have set the Lab to "Alliance" in the manage screen and set each assembly line to "Allow Alliance" yet no one from our alliance can use it. Any ideas?
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Ricdic
Caldari Corporate Research And Production Pty Ltd
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Posted - 2006.08.27 05:15:00 -
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The biggest problem, is that in order to run even ME/PL research requires that you give your members "OTHER HANGAR" access. Basically giving them access to take from the POS corporate / lab hangars.
This is annoying as there is no way to give that level of access to an alliance, therefore I can't see how remote researching from an NPC station with an alliance member is possible.
So yes, they are bugged galore. Here's hoping CCP fixes them up asap, especially releasing them for public rental, which would be superb, giving empire POS's an excellent reason for construction.
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franny
Phoenix Knights
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Posted - 2006.08.27 05:34:00 -
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they need the access set in their corp, and the lab set to alliance I had it working where remote ME and PE were useable, I set copy to about a bjillion isks per run, because of the bugs with it, so never had an issue there
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Ricdic
Caldari Corporate Research And Production Pty Ltd
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Posted - 2006.08.27 05:42:00 -
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Originally by: franny they need the access set in their corp, and the lab set to alliance I had it working where remote ME and PE were useable, I set copy to about a bjillion isks per run, because of the bugs with it, so never had an issue there
Well obviously you don't know if it is working if you never let your alliance test it..... Or have I missed something?
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franny
Phoenix Knights
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Posted - 2006.08.27 06:38:00 -
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the ME and PE worked across allaince, when I had the lab I was in Menti, I had various members of PKKP and Warlords test it across alliance both on SISI and on TQ
the copy I set to a bjillion because at the time noone could figure how to get the copys out of the lab(not sure if anyone figured it out yet, I stopped caring about the lab when we left the alliance and pulled the 2 pos's various members of now PKKP had)
but before then plain and simple, copys goto the lab and not the hanger where the orginal is/was, and thats a bug that NEEDS to be fixed when they fix labs to public/alliance/corp and every-god-damn-one else
PKKP absorbed xBx and Menti when we left TCC alliance, going up about 10 accts between 5 members, we at the same time pulled the lab(I sold it for 80m, I paid 75m for it :) ), 2 pos's and packed up and moved from Solitude to Querious there isn't much point in a lab in the middle of Q, now is there
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