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Mythrandier
Corporate Scum Cult of War
404
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Posted - 2014.07.02 16:01:00 -
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Graabeerd Khagah wrote:Mythrandier wrote:So, because you dont want to be reminded of unhappy thoughts, people who are going through a life threatening illness cannot seek the support of this fine community we have built?
**** off. I agree with you sir, when I wrote about my victory over cancer last year, did I whine, did I cry omigawd I'm gonna die, did I beg for money for fully paid services I recieved?? The answer is a BIG RESOUNDING NO!! Did I make new friends and gained support while I was dealing with the situation at hand?? A BIG YES!! @LS, OP I think you need to sit back and realize and see that even if we are cold hearted in space on the outside, it's in the heart and soul of all of us that REALLY TRULY CARES!!
Yeah I remember your thread sir, I even posted wishing you luck if I remember correctly. This is exactly whati mean, if that thread brought even the smallest amount of comfort in those dark times then its worth it. Simples.
"In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move." --á D. Adams. |
Kijo Rikki
Powder and Ball Alchemists Union The Predictables
883
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Posted - 2014.07.02 16:02:00 -
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For a moment, put yourself in their shoes. Maybe they don't get along with family, maybe they don't have very many if any friends. Or maybe, they can't be near family and friends.
Maybe they are a forum regular here and in a way, we are all their friends. Just like a regular at a bar. Maybe you don't know their name but you see them around all the time and in a way, they are family.
I am sorry you are personally upset that their story is bringing up painful realities that you must face in the near future. And from me to you, I wish you, your friends and family good luck in the near future and I hope you will have the strength and courage to face whatever lies ahead.
I feel like you should be happy for the OP from which this thread spawned. As it stands, he is beating a dreaded monster that has you worried, I would think it would bring hope and inspiration that if someone you know by proxy can beat cancer, perhaps there is a slim chance those close and dear to you can as well.
If you can't find the silver lining, it is still good for this painful subject to be brought up. You need to get the pain and volatile emotions out while you can instead of keeping them hidden away until the day comes when you'll have to let them all go at once. You make a valid point, good Sir or Madam.-á |
E-2C Hawkeye
State War Academy Caldari State
651
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Posted - 2014.07.02 16:06:00 -
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LUMINOUS SPIRIT wrote:Who do some people have the need to to post the most private details of their personal life on public forums?
I notice this a lot especially in north American culture - every little detail, first thing a lot of people do is post on all the forums about it. Never mind that a lot of people dont care, or dont want to know, or it might bring up unwanted memories.
What happened to notions of privacy and friends? If you got married, sick, cured, divorced, whatever, tell your friends about it by all means - but why tell strangers? And why do it on a computer game forum of all places?
I mean there are mailing lists, tools to manage friends, corp, alliance mails, regular emails, facebook - use those, its not that hard.
For example - the post here about someone having cancer surgery. Thats great, best of luck to that guy, but do I want to know about it? My grandma has cancer, my friend has cancer, and my best friends mom had breast cancer surgery recently - I do NOT want to be reminded about 3 people I know that might still die. And I do not go asking for support of random people on a computer game forum either - its my details, I do not go burdening others with them.
This is a forum for a computer game, not a board for cancer support. This is best done on facebook or some such.
It may sound harsh, but public means respecting other's right NOT to be informed of personal details of certain nature. Im not being hateful or anything, I just dont want to know about certain things. And there is a reason why certain topics are off limits in the EULA.
Please keep topics here in general direction of EVE. Attention is all. |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
22760
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Posted - 2014.07.02 16:09:00 -
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You really are a worthless piece of trash LS.
If you don't want to be part of this community and support other players, then kindly sod off. You are entirely useless and your presence is not just unnecessary but toxic. A player came to us for support, and your egotistical response is to rail against him and then open a general hate thread when it turned out that no-one with even a single sane cell in their bodies agreed with your boneheaded stance. If that's the attitude you're going to have, then everyone is better off with you gone. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: Newbie skill plan 2.1. |
LUMINOUS SPIRIT
The Dark Space Initiative Scary Wormhole People
436
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Posted - 2014.07.02 16:10:00 -
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Gully Alex Foyle wrote:LUMINOUS SPIRIT wrote:Why do some people have the need to to post the most private details of their personal life on public forums? Honestly? I don't know. But if there's a 1% chance that one - or more - real people, with nasty sh*t going on in their life, will get some kind of help or comfort from a kind reply, I'll gladly post it. LUMINOUS SPIRIT wrote:I do NOT want to be reminded about 3 people I know that might still die I get it, but you might as well rage at a TV break about cancer research fundraising. Things like cancer suck balls, but a chance to help somebody is worth the unpleasantness of reminding everybody that this sh*t exists. In my very personal opinion, at least.
Where do you draw the line though?
Cancer support messages - allowed. What about other diseases? Thats valid right, people are suffering and need support? Ok. What about other stuff? Divorces, breakups? Again, people are suffering, need support. What about someone breaking an arm or a leg? Again, suffering, pain - need support!
What about someone having a bad day?
How long before this deteriorates into meaningless mush? Is a statement of support from a serial support alt worth anything?
No.
I see your point of course, and its valid, but a line has to be drawn. Im of the opinion that personal stuff should be kept in a specific subsection of the forums at least, to keep the forums focused on specific topics and nothing more.
It would be a good idea for CCP to introduce a new forum, call it Births, Deaths, Celebrations and Memorials, and keep personal stuff there for those of us who do want to get deeply involved with the community on a more personal basis.
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Anslo
Scope Works
5739
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Posted - 2014.07.02 16:11:00 -
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Ok then if Tippia is pissed off then you've REALLY dun goofed.
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LUMINOUS SPIRIT
The Dark Space Initiative Scary Wormhole People
436
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Posted - 2014.07.02 16:12:00 -
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Kijo Rikki wrote:For a moment, put yourself in their shoes. Maybe they don't get along with family, maybe they don't have very many if any friends. Or maybe, they can't be near family and friends.
Maybe they are a forum regular here and in a way, we are all their friends. Just like a regular at a bar. Maybe you don't know their name but you see them around all the time and in a way, they are family.
I am sorry you are personally upset that their story is bringing up painful realities that you must face in the near future. And from me to you, I wish you, your friends and family good luck in the near future and I hope you will have the strength and courage to face whatever lies ahead.
I feel like you should be happy for the OP from which this thread spawned. As it stands, he is beating a dreaded monster that has you worried, I would think it would bring hope and inspiration that if someone you know by proxy can beat cancer, perhaps there is a slim chance those close and dear to you can as well.
If you can't find the silver lining, it is still good for this painful subject to be brought up. You need to get the pain and volatile emotions out while you can instead of keeping them hidden away until the day comes when you'll have to let them all go at once.
Yes. OR I can not think about it, which is easier. Also a valid defense mechanism, by the way. |
Domanique Altares
Rifterlings Point Blank Alliance
3056
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Posted - 2014.07.02 16:13:00 -
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Tippia wrote:You really are a worthless piece of trash LS.
If you don't want to be part of this community and support other players, then kindly sod off. You are entirely useless and your presence is not just unnecessary but toxic. A player came to us for support, and your egotistical response is to rail against him and then open a general hate thread when it turned out that no-one with even a single sane cell in their bodies agreed with your boneheaded stance. If that's the attitude you're going to have, then everyone is better off with you gone.
Not empty quoting. Will probably get moderated out, but the truth about people often does on these forums.
Yours is about the most crass and heartless shitpost I have had the opportunity to read, OP. Good job with being truly terrible. "i advice you to go spit on the back of someone else because you are fall on the wrong horse." - Meio Rayliegh |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
22760
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Posted - 2014.07.02 16:13:00 -
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LUMINOUS SPIRIT wrote:Where do you draw the line though? You don't. If you are a human being, you realise that there is no line to be drawn. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: Newbie skill plan 2.1. |
LUMINOUS SPIRIT
The Dark Space Initiative Scary Wormhole People
436
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Posted - 2014.07.02 16:14:00 -
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Anslo wrote:Ok then if Tippia is pissed off then you've REALLY dun goofed.
Meh. Blocked him a while ago and feel better not having to read his posts. He can do likewise. Tool exists for this exact purpose. |
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Domanique Altares
Rifterlings Point Blank Alliance
3059
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Posted - 2014.07.02 16:15:00 -
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LUMINOUS SPIRIT wrote: Where do you draw the line though?
At the point when you decided not only to not quietly back out of the other thread without comment, but to drop trou and take a **** in it instead. "i advice you to go spit on the back of someone else because you are fall on the wrong horse." - Meio Rayliegh |
Anslo
Scope Works
5747
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Posted - 2014.07.02 16:19:00 -
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LUMINOUS SPIRIT wrote:Anslo wrote:Ok then if Tippia is pissed off then you've REALLY dun goofed. Meh. Blocked him a while ago and feel better not having to read his posts. He can do likewise. Tool exists for this exact purpose.
Then why didn't you do the same with the thread you didn't like?
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Jenn aSide
Smokin Aces.
7014
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Posted - 2014.07.02 16:19:00 -
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LUMINOUS SPIRIT wrote:
Cancer support messages - allowed.
You don't get to allow anything.
Also, i feel like this is a good time to mention that I too had a cancerous growth removed several years ago. It was so big, people were all like "I've never seen anything that big". It even had hair growing out of it. But finally the judge signed the divorce papers so now I don't have to see her ass anymore.
That's right, 2 for 1 post right their bruh. Deal with it. |
Jenn aSide
Smokin Aces.
7014
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Posted - 2014.07.02 16:20:00 -
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Anslo wrote:LUMINOUS SPIRIT wrote:Anslo wrote:Ok then if Tippia is pissed off then you've REALLY dun goofed. Meh. Blocked him a while ago and feel better not having to read his posts. He can do likewise. Tool exists for this exact purpose. Then why didn't you do the same with the thread you didn't like? $%%^&@235^^*98 me. I just clicked like on an Anslo post.
What have yo done LS, WHAT HAVE YOU DONE?!? |
Elusive Panda
Gendry's Leech Nerfed Alliance Go Away
43
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Posted - 2014.07.02 16:22:00 -
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You can post whatever you damn well please as long as it fits the forum theme and respect the rules.
Taking your example of support for cancer, as long as it's in the OOPE forum, then why not? It's there for that. If you don't care, don't read. |
Mythrandier
Corporate Scum Cult of War
405
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Posted - 2014.07.02 16:22:00 -
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LUMINOUS SPIRIT wrote:Anslo wrote:Ok then if Tippia is pissed off then you've REALLY dun goofed. Meh. Blocked him a while ago and feel better not having to read his posts. He can do likewise. Tool exists for this exact purpose.
One of the most obective critical thinkers I have ever had the pleadure of reading and you blocked him.
That says more about you than I needed to know. "In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move." --á D. Adams. |
Ralph King-Griffin
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
2412
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Posted - 2014.07.02 16:23:00 -
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Tippia wrote:You really are a worthless piece of trash LS.
If you don't want to be part of this community and support other players, then kindly sod off. You are entirely useless and your presence is not just unnecessary but toxic. A player came to us for support, and your egotistical response is to rail against him and then open a general hate thread when it turned out that no-one with even a single sane cell in their bodies agreed with your boneheaded stance. If that's the attitude you're going to have, then everyone is better off with you gone. I stand corrected, this needed saying aswell "Confirming EVE is hot, batshit crazy, and puts out." -Omar Alharazaad "CAKE CANNOT HOLD UP TO BEING A CHARACTER DAMNIT." --áUnsuccessful At Everything |
Scipio Artelius
The Vendunari End of Life
2018
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Posted - 2014.07.02 16:25:00 -
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LUMINOUS SPIRIT wrote:Where do you draw the line though? For me, the only person's behaviour I draw a line on is my own.
This thread, as with many that people post, is about drawing a line through someone else's behaviour and judging it against what we believe is correct.
For me personally, that's too much. The only person I can control and the only person I should try to control is myself. Typically I apply a "don't be an ******** " test (I quite often fail my own test unfortunately), but I'm certainly not going to be upset by what someone else wants to express, nor the ideas they have.
If someone wants to express something personal, then clearly they feel that will be useful to them. Who am I to judge that?
Each to their own though. Come Win At Eve - Join The Vendunari
. -á<- Argue this, not this ->-á( -í-¦ -£-û -í-¦) |
Christina Project
Deeper Feelings Inc.
64
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Posted - 2014.07.02 16:27:00 -
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Wow, I feel so horribly anonymous now, as if NOOOOBODY had ANY idea WHO THE **** I AM !
When Tippia liked my first post in this thread ... ... it was like ... wow ...
This makes my day.
Tippia wrote:You really are a worthless piece of trash LS.
If you don't want to be part of this community and support other players, then kindly sod off. You are entirely useless and your presence is not just unnecessary but toxic. A player came to us for support, and your egotistical response is to rail against him and then open a general hate thread when it turned out that no-one with even a single sane cell in their bodies agreed with your boneheaded stance. If that's the attitude you're going to have, then everyone is better off with you gone.
My current portrait: http://imgur.com/OFysywp (1.7. 04:07)
Dear CCP. If your servers have hiccups rendering the portraits, then we'd like to know more about it. Thanks! |
Kijo Rikki
Powder and Ball Alchemists Union The Predictables
884
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Posted - 2014.07.02 16:28:00 -
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LUMINOUS SPIRIT wrote:Kijo Rikki wrote: If you can't find the silver lining, it is still good for this painful subject to be brought up. You need to get the pain and volatile emotions out while you can instead of keeping them hidden away until the day comes when you'll have to let them all go at once.
Yes. OR I can not think about it, which is easier. Also a valid defense mechanism, by the way.
As someone who has been down that road, no, no it is not. It's emotional paperwork and it has a deadline. You can work on it now while you have plenty of time and energy or you can put it of till the last minute and try to deal with the full weight of it all at once. As the metaphor suggests, people often do not make the best decisions under such duress. Take that for what you will. You make a valid point, good Sir or Madam.-á |
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Harrison Tato
Yamato Holdings
82
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Posted - 2014.07.02 16:30:00 -
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LUMINOUS SPIRIT wrote:Who do some people have the need to to post the most private details of their personal life on public forums?
I notice this a lot especially in north American culture - every little detail, first thing a lot of people do is post on all the forums about it. Never mind that a lot of people dont care, or dont want to know, or it might bring up unwanted memories.
What happened to notions of privacy and friends? If you got married, sick, cured, divorced, whatever, tell your friends about it by all means - but why tell strangers? And why do it on a computer game forum of all places?
I mean there are mailing lists, tools to manage friends, corp, alliance mails, regular emails, facebook - use those, its not that hard.
For example - the post here about someone having cancer surgery. Thats great, best of luck to that guy, but do I want to know about it? My grandma has cancer, my friend has cancer, and my best friends mom had breast cancer surgery recently - I do NOT want to be reminded about 3 people I know that might still die. And I do not go asking for support of random people on a computer game forum either - its my details, I do not go burdening others with them.
This is a forum for a computer game, not a board for cancer support. This is best done on facebook or some such.
It may sound harsh, but public means respecting other's right NOT to be informed of personal details of certain nature. Im not being hateful or anything, I just dont want to know about certain things. And there is a reason why certain topics are off limits in the EULA.
Please keep topics here in general direction of EVE.
It must be the same instinct that causes them to think eveyone on Facebook wants to know that they have irritable bowel syndrome. I abandoned FB after I realized that almost everyone I knew was much more vapid and self-absored than I would have ever known if we only interacted in real life. |
Boom McCondor
State War Academy Caldari State
5
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Posted - 2014.07.02 16:33:00 -
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Providing snippets of one's personal life humanizes the game a little bit. I for one thoroughly enjoy hearing about what goes in people's lives, especially in other countries ('Merican here). It's the reason I stick around EVE (and grind for PLEX, to the chagrin of one responder from one of my earlier posts) rather than other games where I'm lumped in with other North Americans. This isn't necessarily bad, but far less interesting to me. |
Seven Koskanaiken
The Shadow Plague The Bastion
1313
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Posted - 2014.07.02 16:35:00 -
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I've found a few people in game who come close to real friends, who I would reach out to for support on real life issues, who could be trusted to give a considered response or sage advice. None of them, however, in General Discussion. |
Anslo
Scope Works
5750
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Posted - 2014.07.02 16:36:00 -
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I like how he disappeared after my last post.
Op success, c/d?
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Jenn aSide
Smokin Aces.
7020
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Posted - 2014.07.02 16:37:00 -
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Anslo wrote:I like how he disappeared after my last post.
Op success, c/d?
*Jenn aSide holds up Red Card and sends Anslo off for the foul of Podding on the Forums*
See, I'm American and I have World cup fever too! |
Anslo
Scope Works
5750
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Posted - 2014.07.02 16:39:00 -
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Then why are you red carding your own player you scrub?
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Marsha Mallow
1207
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Posted - 2014.07.02 16:39:00 -
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Ralph King-Griffin wrote:this needed saying aswell Considering some of the info in the OP it might not be appropriate to repond so harshly. LS appears to be going through a difficult patch as well, maybe that explains the tone in some posts. Some people lash out unders stress. I'm not suggesting it should be encouraged, but calling people "worthless trash" and screaming like this reeks of hypocrisy:
Christina Project wrote:SHUT THE **** UP AND KEEP YOUR OWN **** PRIVATE YOU WEAK PIECE OF ****!
*******! No need. However abrasive they are or how much you disagree with them, there's really no need to be so abusive. Unless people are invoking the "he/she started it" justification. Considering how badly some here respond to 'moral outrage' discussions you're a tad too quick to whip out the pitchforks and do it yourselves when it suits. Calm down, for god's sake. TO THE RIPARDMOBILE! |
Jenn aSide
Smokin Aces.
7020
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Posted - 2014.07.02 16:40:00 -
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Anslo wrote:Then why are you red carding your own player you scrub?
Because I hate Americans. Go Germany!
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Anslo
Scope Works
5750
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Posted - 2014.07.02 16:40:00 -
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Jenn aSide wrote:Anslo wrote:Then why are you red carding your own player you scrub? Because I hate Americans. Go Germany!
You are everything wrong with our country. Go salute the American flag for 3 hours straight and chant 'USA' the entire time lest I call the NSA.
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Jake Warbird
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
4119
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Posted - 2014.07.02 16:40:00 -
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Tippia wrote:You really are a worthless piece of trash LS.
If you don't want to be part of this community and support other players, then kindly sod off. You are entirely useless and your presence is not just unnecessary but toxic. A player came to us for support, and your egotistical response is to rail against him and then open a general hate thread when it turned out that no-one with even a single sane cell in their bodies agreed with your boneheaded stance. If that's the attitude you're going to have, then everyone is better off with you gone. When Tippia makes a post like this you know the thread is ****... even by GD standards. |
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