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Klandi
Consortium of stella Technologies
193
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Posted - 2014.07.31 12:12:00 -
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Looking at this logically - there seems to be only one way that you will move anyone from anywhere - from the inside.
The only way to remove goons is to destroy (in what way is up to you) the management which also means you should already in there and want to do it.
Then you have to find some way to disrupt or destroy the moon mining capability as you do remember they have a stranglehold on the t2 material market don't you?
THEN you have to get the renters not to pay - all at once.
After that it should be dead DIS
...Profit ... I am aware of my own ignorance and have checked my emotional quotient - thanks for asking |
Chewytowel Haklar
Sextans Tech Brothers of Tangra
65
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Posted - 2014.07.31 12:39:00 -
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Klandi wrote:Looking at this logically - there seems to be only one way that you will move anyone from anywhere - from the inside. The only way to remove goons is to destroy (in what way is up to you) the management which also means you should already in there and want to do it. Then you have to find some way to disrupt or destroy the moon mining capability as you do remember they have a stranglehold on the t2 material market don't you? THEN you have to get the renters not to pay - all at once. After that it should be dead DIS...Profit ...
You do realize that the Goonswarm folks are probably eager for you or anyone else to try and destroy them right? All they would do is laugh it up perhaps and say good fight whilst starting their shenanigans all over again from scratch. Perhaps it's better to let the sleeping giant 'swarm' sleep. |
Ra' zutao
The Ascended Fleet Intrepid Crossing
14
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Posted - 2014.07.31 13:30:00 -
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Yes To all of you, please come to renter space and start pew pewing... although I love mining and Industry, most of us with mains would like to use them for combat purposes.. i'm sick of my Alt having more of a reputation than my main :D
fly Safe, blow crap up, sleep happy. |
Klandi
Consortium of stella Technologies
193
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Posted - 2014.07.31 13:31:00 -
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Obviously pressing the quote button and NOT reading what you are quoting is your fort+¿.
I am aware of my own ignorance and have checked my emotional quotient - thanks for asking |
Ra' zutao
The Ascended Fleet Intrepid Crossing
14
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Posted - 2014.07.31 13:32:00 -
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Chewytowel Haklar wrote:Klandi wrote:Looking at this logically - there seems to be only one way that you will move anyone from anywhere - from the inside. The only way to remove goons is to destroy (in what way is up to you) the management which also means you should already in there and want to do it. Then you have to find some way to disrupt or destroy the moon mining capability as you do remember they have a stranglehold on the t2 material market don't you? THEN you have to get the renters not to pay - all at once. After that it should be dead DIS...Profit ... You do realize that the Goonswarm folks are probably eager for you or anyone else to try and destroy them right? All they would do is laugh it up perhaps and say good fight whilst starting their shenanigans all over again from scratch. Perhaps it's better to let the sleeping giant 'swarm' sleep.
Pretty soon a new terror will awaken - the Brave alliance- they continue to gain power and are staring to acquire ships that can actually do major damage.. I think when they reach their potential Nullsec will become hilarious again. |
Klandi
Consortium of stella Technologies
193
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Posted - 2014.07.31 13:58:00 -
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Ra' zutao
That is not gonna cut the mustard boyo - the blue doughnut is made of damage dealing ships and bored pilots.
Actually have thought of another way - the blue doughnut gets bored and leaves, which is far more likely that internal implosion
I am aware of my own ignorance and have checked my emotional quotient - thanks for asking |
Rhes
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1016
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Posted - 2014.07.31 14:12:00 -
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Ra' zutao wrote:Pretty soon a new terror will awaken - the Brave alliance- they continue to gain power and are staring to acquire ships that can actually do major damage.. I think when they reach their potential Nullsec will become hilarious again. Except that TEST will destroy that coalition before they ever get a chance to become a threat to us.
EVE is a game about spaceships and there's an enormous amount of work to do on the in-space gameplay before players (or developers) are ready to sacrifice it for a totally new type of gameplay - CCP Rise |
Pheusia
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
143
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Posted - 2014.07.31 14:14:00 -
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Klandi wrote:Ra' zutao
That is not gonna cut the mustard boyo - the blue doughnut is made of damage dealing ships and bored pilots.
Actually have thought of another way - the blue doughnut gets bored and leaves, which is far more likely that internal implosion
Well yes, since this is what's actually happening right now. |
baltec1
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
12570
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Posted - 2014.07.31 14:23:00 -
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Klandi wrote:Looking at this logically - there seems to be only one way that you will move anyone from anywhere - from the inside. The only way to remove goons is to destroy (in what way is up to you) the management which also means you should already in there and want to do it. Then you have to find some way to disrupt or destroy the moon mining capability as you do remember they have a stranglehold on the t2 material market don't you? THEN you have to get the renters not to pay - all at once. After that it should be dead DIS...Profit ...
Nope.
The only way to remove us is to revamp null radically. Neither us or N3/PL are going anywhere until this happens. Join Bat Country today and defend the Glorious Socialist Dictatorship |
Pheusia
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
143
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Posted - 2014.07.31 14:28:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:Klandi wrote:Looking at this logically - there seems to be only one way that you will move anyone from anywhere - from the inside. The only way to remove goons is to destroy (in what way is up to you) the management which also means you should already in there and want to do it. Then you have to find some way to disrupt or destroy the moon mining capability as you do remember they have a stranglehold on the t2 material market don't you? THEN you have to get the renters not to pay - all at once. After that it should be dead DIS...Profit ... Nope. The only way to remove us is to revamp null radically. Neither us or N3/PL are going anywhere until this happens.
And even if the entire CFC and N3 disappeared tonight, they would only be replaced by something exactly the same but with different labels within a year, or two at most.
Blocs are the symptom, not the cause. |
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Mythrandier
Corporate Scum Cult of War
436
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Posted - 2014.07.31 14:49:00 -
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This thread needs more doomsdale tinfoil hattery.
"In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move." --á D. Adams. |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
6346
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Posted - 2014.07.31 14:49:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:Klandi wrote:Looking at this logically - there seems to be only one way that you will move anyone from anywhere - from the inside. The only way to remove goons is to destroy (in what way is up to you) the management which also means you should already in there and want to do it. Then you have to find some way to disrupt or destroy the moon mining capability as you do remember they have a stranglehold on the t2 material market don't you? THEN you have to get the renters not to pay - all at once. After that it should be dead DIS...Profit ... Nope. The only way to remove us is to revamp null radically. Neither us or N3/PL are going anywhere until this happens. CCP will save us!
Er, them? I mean... wait Vince Draken will save them. Us. No, he'll kill us... ^^ Delicious goon ((tech nerf, siphon, drone assist, supercap)) tears.
Taking a wrecking ball to the futile hopes and broken dreams of skillless blobbers. |
Mallak Azaria
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
5761
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Posted - 2014.07.31 20:51:00 -
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Why don't you come out here & solve the blue donut problem yourself? This post was lovingly crafted by a member of the Goonwaffe Posting Cabal & proud member of the popular gay hookup site, somethingawful.com |
Malcolm Shinhwa
Northstar Cabal Tactical Narcotics Team
2743
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Posted - 2014.07.31 20:58:00 -
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Alavaria Fera wrote:baltec1 wrote:Klandi wrote:Looking at this logically - there seems to be only one way that you will move anyone from anywhere - from the inside. The only way to remove goons is to destroy (in what way is up to you) the management which also means you should already in there and want to do it. Then you have to find some way to disrupt or destroy the moon mining capability as you do remember they have a stranglehold on the t2 material market don't you? THEN you have to get the renters not to pay - all at once. After that it should be dead DIS...Profit ... Nope. The only way to remove us is to revamp null radically. Neither us or N3/PL are going anywhere until this happens. CCP will save us! Er, them? I mean... wait Vince Draken will save them. Us. No, he'll kill us...
Well, either way problem solved.
If we're not supposed to shoot pods in hisec, why are they filled with meat? |
Gallowmere Rorschach
Enlightened Industries Goonswarm Federation
546
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Posted - 2014.07.31 20:58:00 -
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Mallak Azaria wrote:Why don't you come out here & solve the blue donut problem yourself? Didn't Harry Forever already try that? What ever happened to that guy anyway? I recall a really short rallying cry, then a whole lot of nothing after a couple of weeks. |
Mallak Azaria
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
5761
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Posted - 2014.07.31 21:04:00 -
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Gallowmere Rorschach wrote:Mallak Azaria wrote:Why don't you come out here & solve the blue donut problem yourself? Didn't Harry Forever already try that? What ever happened to that guy anyway? I recall a really short rallying cry, then a whole lot of nothing after a couple of weeks.
He hung around for a few months throwing bombs at cyno ships, then he upgraded to throwing bombs at industrials. Then he vanished in to nothingness after losing a bomber to an AFK carrier. This post was lovingly crafted by a member of the Goonwaffe Posting Cabal & proud member of the popular gay hookup site, somethingawful.com |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
6348
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Posted - 2014.07.31 21:30:00 -
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Mallak Azaria wrote:Gallowmere Rorschach wrote:Mallak Azaria wrote:Why don't you come out here & solve the blue donut problem yourself? Didn't Harry Forever already try that? What ever happened to that guy anyway? I recall a really short rallying cry, then a whole lot of nothing after a couple of weeks. He hung around for a few months throwing bombs at cyno ships, then he upgraded to throwing bombs at industrials. Then he vanished in to nothingness after losing a bomber to an AFK carrier. To be fair though, I have far more respect for someone like Harry Forever than I do for people like the OP. Harry took steps to try & rectify his perceived issue while people like the OP want CCP or other people to do it for them. He did explode some of the cans of my miners. A little annoying. ^^ Delicious goon ((tech nerf, siphon, drone assist, supercap)) tears.
Taking a wrecking ball to the futile hopes and broken dreams of skillless blobbers. |
Cancel Align NOW
Imperial Shipment Amarr Empire
60
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Posted - 2014.07.31 21:39:00 -
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Yarda Black wrote:Arent the renters supposed to unite and kill off the landlords?
Do you hear the people sing? Singing the song of angry men It is the music of the people Who will not be slaves again! When the beating of your heart Echoes the beating of the drums There is a life about to start When tomorrow comes!
No wait, all I hear is the sound of warp drive active as I enter another empty system.
edit: I'm not complaining, more profit for me |
baltec1
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
12570
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Posted - 2014.08.01 04:33:00 -
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Mallak Azaria wrote:Gallowmere Rorschach wrote:Mallak Azaria wrote:Why don't you come out here & solve the blue donut problem yourself? Didn't Harry Forever already try that? What ever happened to that guy anyway? I recall a really short rallying cry, then a whole lot of nothing after a couple of weeks. He hung around for a few months throwing bombs at cyno ships, then he upgraded to throwing bombs at industrials. Then he vanished in to nothingness after losing a bomber to an AFK carrier. To be fair though, I have far more respect for someone like Harry Forever than I do for people like the OP. Harry took steps to try & rectify his perceived issue while people like the OP want CCP or other people to do it for them, while continuing to sit on their highsec throne of moral superiority.
We took him with us in the Halloween war, I hear he had a great time shiptalking in local and bombing cynos and N3. Join Bat Country today and defend the Glorious Socialist Dictatorship |
Doomsdale Little
Doom and Gloom Corp
2
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Posted - 2014.08.01 06:12:00 -
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Mythrandier wrote:This thread needs more doomsdale
Until we get rid of the CCP-Nullsec RMT cartel operation, highsec will never be safe from blue donuts.
Sky is falling, damage estimate to follow. Proof that CCP is out to get me personally. |
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Aralyn Cormallen
Wildly Inappropriate Goonswarm Federation
556
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Posted - 2014.08.01 08:37:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:Mallak Azaria wrote:Gallowmere Rorschach wrote:Mallak Azaria wrote:Why don't you come out here & solve the blue donut problem yourself? Didn't Harry Forever already try that? What ever happened to that guy anyway? I recall a really short rallying cry, then a whole lot of nothing after a couple of weeks. He hung around for a few months throwing bombs at cyno ships, then he upgraded to throwing bombs at industrials. Then he vanished in to nothingness after losing a bomber to an AFK carrier. To be fair though, I have far more respect for someone like Harry Forever than I do for people like the OP. Harry took steps to try & rectify his perceived issue while people like the OP want CCP or other people to do it for them, while continuing to sit on their highsec throne of moral superiority. We took him with us in the Halloween war, I hear he had a great time shiptalking in local and bombing cynos and N3.
And to be fair, I saw him in VFK yesterday, so the crusade continues.
As Mallak says, at least the guy has up and tried to do something, you gotta give the man props for that.
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Klandi
Consortium of stella Technologies
193
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Posted - 2014.08.01 11:57:00 -
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My point is anyone doing anything like Harry is going to be like a fart in the wind - a source of amusement at the futility of conviction.
The doughnut needs to internally collapse for anything conclusive to happen - and then as was previously said - is a symptom not the cause. I am aware of my own ignorance and have checked my emotional quotient - thanks for asking |
admiral root
Red Galaxy
1488
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Posted - 2014.08.01 16:06:00 -
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Klandi wrote:My point is anyone doing anything like Harry is going to be like a fart in the wind - a source of amusement at the futility of conviction.
You mean anyone intentionally going solo against a power bloc? Yup, definitely doomed to failure if the aim is to destroy them. That's why lots of people would need to form an organised group to achieve anything, thus the highsec whinebears never will. No, your rights end in optimal+2*falloff |
Gallowmere Rorschach
Enlightened Industries Goonswarm Federation
546
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Posted - 2014.08.01 17:35:00 -
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Aralyn Cormallen wrote: And to be fair, I saw him in VFK yesterday, so the crusade continues.
As Mallak says, at least the guy has up and tried to do something, you gotta give the man props for that.
Absolutely. I cheered him on quite a bit in his first thread. Seeing quite a few bears take up arms along side him; it was all rather inspiring, until the inevitable occured. |
Alternative Splicing
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
81
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Posted - 2014.08.01 19:14:00 -
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Luwc wrote:Killing Renters = less isk for Null Sec Blocs Less Isk for Null Sec Blocs = less supercap escelations less supercap escelations = less publicity for eve / ccp
Also I am pretty sure that a lot of the income goes into RMT and funding plex for a bazillion alts. Every alliance leader stuffs his own pockets in null.
Big capital fights are great at getting people to try the game, but how many are lured in just to quit a month later because what you see and what you generally get are, for many people, quite disparate? Also, it would be a far more interesting narrative to sell if the current state of things was a real vibrant, Byzantine struggle of Vikings in space, rather than the tired, geriatric staring contest between two powers? A chess board is far more interesting to study when the pieces are actually moving.
If you want publicity, get some interesting stories out there which will show off the real sandbox nature of the game. So much else goes on in New Eden, its rather depreciating to boil down the publicity to a few shiny fights. |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
6349
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Posted - 2014.08.02 00:01:00 -
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Alternative Splicing wrote:Big capital fights are great at getting people to try the game, but how many are lured in just to quit a month later because what you see and what you generally get are, for many people, quite disparate? I do wonder how many newbies we still have from then. Hm ^^ Delicious goon ((tech nerf, siphon, drone assist, supercap)) tears.
Taking a wrecking ball to the futile hopes and broken dreams of skillless blobbers. |
Mallak Azaria
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
5782
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Posted - 2014.08.02 04:25:00 -
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Aralyn Cormallen wrote:And to be fair, I saw him in VFK yesterday, so the crusade continues.
As Mallak says, at least the guy has up and tried to do something, you gotta give the man props for that.
He's pretty cool to talk to aswell. This post was lovingly crafted by a member of the Goonwaffe Posting Cabal & proud member of the popular gay hookup site, somethingawful.com |
RAIN Arthie
The Ascended Fleet Intrepid Crossing
371
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Posted - 2014.08.02 11:30:00 -
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Antaria Wildsun wrote:So, I was thinking, how great would it be if all or even some of the land lord alliances began to systematically kill off their renters. I hear a lot of people complaining about how dead 0.0 is and it seems to me that it is because of the renter empires and everybody being blue to damn near everybody.
There would be downsides of course, but also some really positive things, mostly a huge amount of pvp targets and huge opportunities to relieve people of their wealth through destruction and ransoms. Another benefit would be a massive break down in 0.0 industry and ratting, which would be great for anyone who can manage to hold onto and use their bit of space.
I'm sure that the lust for isk will prevent this from ever happening, but wouldn't it be great?
This is something my son would say (he is 6). Wouldn't work even if they tried.The money from renters is too good to pass up for PVP targets. Sounds like your out of touch with what goes on down here. There's plenty of PVP daily. Now if you want a real challenge go and disasemble the goons. |
Serene Repose
1460
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Posted - 2014.08.02 11:45:00 -
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Hilarious. Don't like the ghetto, kill the welfare recipients. Don't quake in the knowledge you're helpless in the face of the slumlords.
I hate the blue donut = WE (meaning your corp/alliance) SUCK. We can't beat the big guys.
I'll say this one last time, then I'm dunking blue donuts in the coffee cup of eternal obscurity:
If you don't like the blue donut, conquer it. If you can't conquer it, shut up about it. Take up knitting.
FFS I have sworn upon the altar of God eternal hostility toward every form of tyranny over the mind of man.-á |
baltec1
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
12587
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Posted - 2014.08.02 13:31:00 -
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Serene Repose wrote:Hilarious. Don't like the ghetto, kill the welfare recipients. Don't quake in the knowledge you're helpless in the face of the slumlords. I hate the blue donut = WE (meaning your corp/alliance) SUCK. We can't beat the big guys. I'll say this one last time, then I'm dunking blue donuts in the coffee cup of eternal obscurity: If you don't like the blue donut, conquer it. If you can't conquer it, shut up about it. Take up knitting. FFS
Oh its perfectly fine to complain about how terrible the null situation is as it means we get to state why its such a terrible mess and how to fix it. Join Bat Country today and defend the Glorious Socialist Dictatorship |
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