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ElQuirko
Protus Correction Facility Inc.
3397
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Posted - 2014.07.06 19:02:00 -
[61] - Quote
Sintiar Loffwagea wrote:7 month ago price per PLEX is 600 each and at this time it 200mil extra in just half year .
And when I joined EVE it was 365mil. Man up.  Dodixie > Hek |

Cynter DeVries
Spheroidal Projections
886
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Posted - 2014.07.06 21:58:00 -
[62] - Quote
Who is "Al" and why is he hailing PLEX? Cynter's Law of feature suggestion: Thou shalt not suggest NPCs do something players could do instead. |

Hasikan Miallok
Republic University Minmatar Republic
914
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Posted - 2014.07.07 01:40:00 -
[63] - Quote
Cynter DeVries wrote:Who is "Al" and why is he hailing PLEX?
Probably a typo and they actually meant Alf.
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Felicity Love
Ka'ra Shabuir Inc.
1994
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Posted - 2014.07.07 03:36:00 -
[64] - Quote
... grabs a pint, puts on the shades, and lies back on a heap of Thulium to work on the tan until PLEX hits 1bil... 
"Psssshhhhhhhhhhhhhh" -á-- That ambiguous and pseudo-technical term used by management to describe, to staff, how frakking cool something looks inside their own heads.
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Maeltstome
Twisted Insanity. The Kadeshi
500
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Posted - 2014.07.07 10:35:00 -
[65] - Quote
Emma Muutaras wrote:i keep seeing post like this "oh plexs cost to much" "its not fair i cant afford to plex my account this month" ect ect.
The simple fact is when you buy a plex from the market to pay your sub fee some else paid real $$$ for it.
eves economy is almost entirely play run and the price of plex is no different its all about supply and demand. so many people want to play for free and not pay sub fees the people who are willing to buy plexs for $$$ and subsidize ur $$$ fee complaining plex prices are to high on the forums is to put it blunt is ridiculous its there asset to "try" and sell at a price there happy with, complaining plex prices are to high on the forums is to put it blunt is ridiculous.
the reason plex prices are this high is because thats how much the avrage plex user is willing to spend if nobody was buying them at this price there would be no demand and the price would fall.
TBH i would be happy paying 1-2 Bil on a plex i can make 100 mil a hour killing npcs not to mention other money making adventures such as PI, playing the market data/relic sites and faction loot
as it currently stands, at 800 mil i need to farm npc's for a total of 8 hours in a month to cover my sub costs not to bad to cover the sub fee i would need to pay otherwise
1-2bil @ 100mil an hour is 10-20 hours work to pay for a subscription. Get a part-time job at McDonals for 5 hours a week. you'll buy a subscription ins 1-2 hours and then walk away with enough cash for another 4 plex. 20 hours a month work and you get the current equivilent of 200 hours hard grind in Eve.
Why don't people understand opportunity cost?! |

Dave Stark
6490
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Posted - 2014.07.07 10:40:00 -
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Maeltstome wrote:Emma Muutaras wrote:i keep seeing post like this "oh plexs cost to much" "its not fair i cant afford to plex my account this month" ect ect.
The simple fact is when you buy a plex from the market to pay your sub fee some else paid real $$$ for it.
eves economy is almost entirely play run and the price of plex is no different its all about supply and demand. so many people want to play for free and not pay sub fees the people who are willing to buy plexs for $$$ and subsidize ur $$$ fee complaining plex prices are to high on the forums is to put it blunt is ridiculous its there asset to "try" and sell at a price there happy with, complaining plex prices are to high on the forums is to put it blunt is ridiculous.
the reason plex prices are this high is because thats how much the avrage plex user is willing to spend if nobody was buying them at this price there would be no demand and the price would fall.
TBH i would be happy paying 1-2 Bil on a plex i can make 100 mil a hour killing npcs not to mention other money making adventures such as PI, playing the market data/relic sites and faction loot
as it currently stands, at 800 mil i need to farm npc's for a total of 8 hours in a month to cover my sub costs not to bad to cover the sub fee i would need to pay otherwise 1-2bil @ 100mil an hour is 10-20 hours work to pay for a subscription. Get a part-time job at McDonals for 5 hours a week. you'll buy a subscription ins 1-2 hours and then walk away with enough cash for another 4 plex. 20 hours a month work and you get the current equivilent of 200 hours hard grind in Eve. Why don't people understand opportunity cost?!
you say that like it's possible to just magic a few hours overtime out of thin air. |

Maeltstome
Twisted Insanity. The Kadeshi
500
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Posted - 2014.07.07 11:06:00 -
[67] - Quote
Dave Stark wrote:Maeltstome wrote:Emma Muutaras wrote:i keep seeing post like this "oh plexs cost to much" "its not fair i cant afford to plex my account this month" ect ect.
The simple fact is when you buy a plex from the market to pay your sub fee some else paid real $$$ for it.
eves economy is almost entirely play run and the price of plex is no different its all about supply and demand. so many people want to play for free and not pay sub fees the people who are willing to buy plexs for $$$ and subsidize ur $$$ fee complaining plex prices are to high on the forums is to put it blunt is ridiculous its there asset to "try" and sell at a price there happy with, complaining plex prices are to high on the forums is to put it blunt is ridiculous.
the reason plex prices are this high is because thats how much the avrage plex user is willing to spend if nobody was buying them at this price there would be no demand and the price would fall.
TBH i would be happy paying 1-2 Bil on a plex i can make 100 mil a hour killing npcs not to mention other money making adventures such as PI, playing the market data/relic sites and faction loot
as it currently stands, at 800 mil i need to farm npc's for a total of 8 hours in a month to cover my sub costs not to bad to cover the sub fee i would need to pay otherwise 1-2bil @ 100mil an hour is 10-20 hours work to pay for a subscription. Get a part-time job at McDonals for 5 hours a week. you'll buy a subscription ins 1-2 hours and then walk away with enough cash for another 4 plex. 20 hours a month work and you get the current equivilent of 200 hours hard grind in Eve. Why don't people understand opportunity cost?! you say that like it's possible to just magic a few hours overtime out of thin air.
I'm implying if you spend 20hours a month feeding an Eve subscription because you can't afford to play it otherwise, you could make that small amount of cash some other way. 2x plex costs $34.99. that means $17.50 per plex, that means 1million is costs less than $0.03. So you're essentially being payed around $2.20 an hour for your eve gains.
It can't be that hard to justify 2 hours of overtime a month. |

Grunanca
Doughboys Overload Everything
268
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Posted - 2014.07.07 11:21:00 -
[68] - Quote
Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:Who is Al Hail, and why do we care how he pays for his subs?
Damn, you beat me to it! |

Dave Stark
6490
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Posted - 2014.07.07 11:22:00 -
[69] - Quote
Maeltstome wrote:It can't be that hard to justify 2 hours of overtime a month.
oh no, i get it. it makes vastly more sense to spend an extra 2 hours of time in the office than trying to earn isk to plex an account.
however that doesn't change the fact that even if some one wants to do 2 hours of overtime, doesn't mean that there's 2 hours of overtime for them to do. level 4 missions, mining, incursions, etc will always be there when you log in (maybe not incursions), but extra overtime at work might be intermittent and rare. |

Ria Nieyli
11768
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Posted - 2014.07.07 11:45:00 -
[70] - Quote
Maeltstome wrote:Dave Stark wrote:Maeltstome wrote:Emma Muutaras wrote:i keep seeing post like this "oh plexs cost to much" "its not fair i cant afford to plex my account this month" ect ect.
The simple fact is when you buy a plex from the market to pay your sub fee some else paid real $$$ for it.
eves economy is almost entirely play run and the price of plex is no different its all about supply and demand. so many people want to play for free and not pay sub fees the people who are willing to buy plexs for $$$ and subsidize ur $$$ fee complaining plex prices are to high on the forums is to put it blunt is ridiculous its there asset to "try" and sell at a price there happy with, complaining plex prices are to high on the forums is to put it blunt is ridiculous.
the reason plex prices are this high is because thats how much the avrage plex user is willing to spend if nobody was buying them at this price there would be no demand and the price would fall.
TBH i would be happy paying 1-2 Bil on a plex i can make 100 mil a hour killing npcs not to mention other money making adventures such as PI, playing the market data/relic sites and faction loot
as it currently stands, at 800 mil i need to farm npc's for a total of 8 hours in a month to cover my sub costs not to bad to cover the sub fee i would need to pay otherwise 1-2bil @ 100mil an hour is 10-20 hours work to pay for a subscription. Get a part-time job at McDonals for 5 hours a week. you'll buy a subscription ins 1-2 hours and then walk away with enough cash for another 4 plex. 20 hours a month work and you get the current equivilent of 200 hours hard grind in Eve. Why don't people understand opportunity cost?! you say that like it's possible to just magic a few hours overtime out of thin air. I'm implying if you spend 20hours a month feeding an Eve subscription because you can't afford to play it otherwise, you could make that small amount of cash some other way. 2x plex costs $34.99. that means $17.50 per plex, that means 1million is costs less than $0.03. So you're essentially being payed around $2.20 an hour for your eve gains. It can't be that hard to justify 2 hours of overtime a month.
I don't know, I play the game for a month, and I end up with enough isk for my needs, including a plex. Why would I want to work 2 hours overtime in this case? Do not remove a fly from your friend's forehead with a hatchet.
- Ancient Chinese Proverb |

Maeltstome
Twisted Insanity. The Kadeshi
500
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Posted - 2014.07.07 11:49:00 -
[71] - Quote
Ria Nieyli wrote:I don't know, I play the game for a month, and I end up with enough isk for my needs, including a plex. Why would I want to work 2 hours overtime in this case?
If you inherently get pleasure from grinding isk and that's all you do, then buy Plex. Essentially all your doing is making isk and spending it to keep your account running to make isk to keep your account running.
It's a cycle, but if you enjoy the status quo (e.g. not saving up for new ships, more toon, etc.) then i suppose it's perfect for you. |

Ria Nieyli
11768
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Posted - 2014.07.07 11:54:00 -
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Maeltstome wrote:Ria Nieyli wrote:I don't know, I play the game for a month, and I end up with enough isk for my needs, including a plex. Why would I want to work 2 hours overtime in this case? If you inherently get pleasure from grinding isk and that's all you do, then buy Plex. Essentially all your doing is making isk and spending it to keep your account running to make isk to keep your account running. It's a cycle, but if you enjoy the status quo (e.g. not saving up for new ships, more toon, etc.) then i suppose it's perfect for you.
Nonono, I play the game. I end up with enough isk by playing. Not the other way around. Do not remove a fly from your friend's forehead with a hatchet.
- Ancient Chinese Proverb |

Maeltstome
Twisted Insanity. The Kadeshi
500
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Posted - 2014.07.07 12:03:00 -
[73] - Quote
Ria Nieyli wrote:Maeltstome wrote:Ria Nieyli wrote:I don't know, I play the game for a month, and I end up with enough isk for my needs, including a plex. Why would I want to work 2 hours overtime in this case? If you inherently get pleasure from grinding isk and that's all you do, then buy Plex. Essentially all your doing is making isk and spending it to keep your account running to make isk to keep your account running. It's a cycle, but if you enjoy the status quo (e.g. not saving up for new ships, more toon, etc.) then i suppose it's perfect for you. Nonono, I play the game. I end up with enough isk by playing. Not the other way around.
I understand. It's just normal that most activities in eve cost cash instead of creating it. I'd say you are the exception rather than the rule. |

Xylem Viliana
Protomonolithic
191
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Posted - 2014.07.07 15:20:00 -
[74] - Quote
Who is Al and why does he hail PLEX?
Edit: I was beaten to this line by like 4 days....
I'll just go back to sleep. |

Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan
5987
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Posted - 2014.07.07 15:25:00 -
[75] - Quote
Xylem Viliana wrote:Who is Al and why does he hail PLEX?
Edit: I was beaten to this line by like 4 days....
I'll just go back to sleep.
Lol you beat me to it though so +1/2 "Many have joined the battle, many have survived the tests and trials, but countless have fallen because they weren't the sharpest, the fastest thinking, the most devious, the most ruthless or most intelligent. -áLog in and Compete!"-á- CCP Falcon
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Emma Muutaras
State War Academy Caldari State
20
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Posted - 2014.07.07 16:32:00 -
[76] - Quote
Maeltstome wrote:Ria Nieyli wrote:I don't know, I play the game for a month, and I end up with enough isk for my needs, including a plex. Why would I want to work 2 hours overtime in this case? If you inherently get pleasure from grinding isk and that's all you do, then buy Plex. Essentially all your doing is making isk and spending it to keep your account running to make isk to keep your account running. It's a cycle, but if you enjoy the status quo (e.g. not saving up for new ships, more toon, etc.) then i suppose it's perfect for you.
your argument is flawed yes i make isk to spend isk on plex a nasty cycle but the fact i can make all the isk required for the said plex in a few hours leaves the rest of the month to make a profit and lose ships in glorious pvp
TBH if i was going out in t2 ships once or twice a day and getting them blown up then yes i prolly would have to spend real$$$ to sub my account rather than plex it but i play within my means if i cant afford to lose it i dont fly it.
oh and BTW im self employed accountant dont need no extra funds cooking you ya bigmac |

TharOkha
0asis Group
832
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Posted - 2014.07.07 18:01:00 -
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Emma Muutaras wrote:Maeltstome wrote:Ria Nieyli wrote:I don't know, I play the game for a month, and I end up with enough isk for my needs, including a plex. Why would I want to work 2 hours overtime in this case? If you inherently get pleasure from grinding isk and that's all you do, then buy Plex. Essentially all your doing is making isk and spending it to keep your account running to make isk to keep your account running. It's a cycle, but if you enjoy the status quo (e.g. not saving up for new ships, more toon, etc.) then i suppose it's perfect for you. your argument is flawed yes i make isk to spend isk on plex a nasty cycle but the fact i can make all the isk required for the said plex in a few hours leaves the rest of the month to make a profit and lose ships in glorious pvp TBH if i was going out in t2 ships once or twice a day and getting them blown up then yes i prolly would have to spend real$$$ to sub my account rather than plex it but i play within my means if i cant afford to lose it i dont fly it. oh and BTW im self employed accountant dont need no extra funds cooking you ya bigmac
people like Maeltstome doesn't have a clue how much isk can one nifty capsuleer earn per day without too much effort :D
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Jenn aSide
Smokin Aces.
7095
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Posted - 2014.07.07 18:08:00 -
[78] - Quote
Maeltstome wrote:
I'm implying if you spend 20hours a month feeding an Eve subscription because you can't afford to play it otherwise, you could make that small amount of cash some other way. 2x plex costs $34.99. that means $17.50 per plex, that means 1million is costs less than $0.03. So you're essentially being payed around $2.20 an hour for your eve gains.
It can't be that hard to justify 2 hours of overtime a month.
My overtime invovles a kevlar vest and domestic violence calls. So you think 2 hours of that is better than the 14 or so hours (over the course of a month) I spend casually doing pve (in faction warfare, or lvl 5s, a bit longer if doing high sec incursions) while butt ass naked and drunk at home to plex 4 accounts?
Hint: Butt ass naked and drunk trumps any time savings one might gain from working OT. |

THCS
Kenshin. Northern Coalition.
1
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Posted - 2014.07.07 18:20:00 -
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Maeltstome wrote:Dave Stark wrote:Maeltstome wrote:Emma Muutaras wrote:i keep seeing post like this "oh plexs cost to much" "its not fair i cant afford to plex my account this month" ect ect.
The simple fact is when you buy a plex from the market to pay your sub fee some else paid real $$$ for it.
eves economy is almost entirely play run and the price of plex is no different its all about supply and demand. so many people want to play for free and not pay sub fees the people who are willing to buy plexs for $$$ and subsidize ur $$$ fee complaining plex prices are to high on the forums is to put it blunt is ridiculous its there asset to "try" and sell at a price there happy with, complaining plex prices are to high on the forums is to put it blunt is ridiculous.
the reason plex prices are this high is because thats how much the avrage plex user is willing to spend if nobody was buying them at this price there would be no demand and the price would fall.
TBH i would be happy paying 1-2 Bil on a plex i can make 100 mil a hour killing npcs not to mention other money making adventures such as PI, playing the market data/relic sites and faction loot
as it currently stands, at 800 mil i need to farm npc's for a total of 8 hours in a month to cover my sub costs not to bad to cover the sub fee i would need to pay otherwise 1-2bil @ 100mil an hour is 10-20 hours work to pay for a subscription. Get a part-time job at McDonals for 5 hours a week. you'll buy a subscription ins 1-2 hours and then walk away with enough cash for another 4 plex. 20 hours a month work and you get the current equivilent of 200 hours hard grind in Eve. Why don't people understand opportunity cost?! you say that like it's possible to just magic a few hours overtime out of thin air. I'm implying if you spend 20hours a month feeding an Eve subscription because you can't afford to play it otherwise, you could make that small amount of cash some other way. 2x plex costs $34.99. that means $17.50 per plex, that means 1million is costs less than $0.03. So you're essentially being payed around $2.20 an hour for your eve gains. It can't be that hard to justify 2 hours of overtime a month.
implying you would enjoy working for 2 hrs at a ****** job JUST TO PAY FOR EVE? |
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ISD Ezwal
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
1804

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Posted - 2014.07.07 20:56:00 -
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As others are far better at explaining the finer intricacies of market fluctuations, supply and demand, etcetera, I will just say this:
Thread locked.
The rules: 16. Redundant and re-posted threads will be locked.
As a courtesy to other forum users, please search to see if there is a thread already open on the topic you wish to discuss. If so, please place your comments there instead. Multiple threads on the same subject clutter up the forums needlessly, causing good feedback and ideas to be lost. Please keep discussions regarding a topic to a single thread. ISD Ezwal Captain Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department |
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