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ovenproofjet
The Illuminatii
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Posted - 2011.11.24 21:50:00 -
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We're doing just fine with our Black Ops fleets bro |
ovenproofjet
The Illuminatii
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Posted - 2011.12.15 14:32:00 -
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5 ly range at JDC4 (aka base range cos of BOps skill prereqs) is plenty. Oh and PROPER T2 resists as is normal on ANY T2 ship....
Problem solved, even that would only improve their current use. For their current use, please see "The Illuminatii" or "Dirt Nap Squad" killboards |
ovenproofjet
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Posted - 2012.02.14 13:33:00 -
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Suleiman Shouaa wrote:Also the base Black Ops jump range goes from 2.5ly to 3.25ly. The range doesn't massively go up, but it helps a ton with inter-region logistics and for god awful regions where all the systems are far apart (Amarr space generally)
Correction - Base range is currently 2ly (4ly @JDC4, 4.5 ly @JDC5). Increasing the base range to 2.5ly (5ly @JDC4, 5.625 @JDC5) would more than suffice for the black ops.
However as previously stated, the fuel useage then becomes a huge problem. My corp/alliance make EXTENSIVE use of black ops on a REGULAR basis. To run a hotdrop campaign for more than one evening we need upwards of 25 GSCs anchored in space to supply us with enough fuel to drop approx 10-15 bombers and support recons (and return them to the base system). A covert hauler just isn't big enough!!! So, the only really viable option is to REDUCE THE FUEL USEAGE, increasing the fuel bay really is a moot point. As for the cold, hard figures of the matter, that would require some input from CCP and players to get it right.
As for using the black ops beyond a glorifed mobile jump bridge, namely in combat, they need some serious looking at. It's an approx 500mil (not sure of Jita price atm) hull that has a worse tank than I can get out of the T1 equivelant!!! There are ways to make combat black ops, but they revolve around expensive fits and ONLY the Panther and Redeemer, the Widow and Sin are a total waste of space...
In summary, black ops are workable at the moment, however they could be much better with some relatively basic changes. I would however advocate the fact that any changes would need to be extensively tested in co-operation with player groups who use them regularly. |
ovenproofjet
The Illuminatii
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Posted - 2012.02.15 15:41:00 -
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I failed posted my reply....I shall fix with a proper reply later... |
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