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Astarte Nosferatu
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Posted - 2006.07.01 12:36:00 -
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Originally by: Y Ashanti But just shows your fear of being unable to win a fair fight I guess.
Fair fight? Hundreds of n00bs using exploits to kill a powerhouse? GoonFleet/GoonWaffe and their allies are no match for D2 and allies in a 'fair fight'. You do however beat them nicely when using can/drone lag exploits.
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Cefte
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Posted - 2006.07.01 12:44:00 -
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Originally by: Astarte Nosferatu
Originally by: Y Ashanti But just shows your fear of being unable to win a fair fight I guess.
Fair fight? Hundreds of n00bs using exploits to kill a powerhouse? GoonFleet/GoonWaffe and their allies are no match for D2 and allies in a 'fair fight'. You do however beat them nicely when using can/drone lag exploits.
I must say, I am both impressed and envious at the loyalty shown by D2's allies. After the CEO of the client corp that they are defending is banned from the game for an exploit, and one of their own players is demonstrated by screenshot to have done so again, still they beat the propaganda drum. Truly brilliant. Unless you want to claim that you are neutral in this conflict?
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Shirei
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Posted - 2006.07.01 12:47:00 -
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****-stirring 4tw, eh?
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Jurushy
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Posted - 2006.07.01 12:48:00 -
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Originally by: Cefte
Originally by: Astarte Nosferatu
Originally by: Y Ashanti But just shows your fear of being unable to win a fair fight I guess.
Fair fight? Hundreds of n00bs using exploits to kill a powerhouse? GoonFleet/GoonWaffe and their allies are no match for D2 and allies in a 'fair fight'. You do however beat them nicely when using can/drone lag exploits.
I must say, I am both impressed and envious at the loyalty shown by D2's allies. After the CEO of the client corp that they are defending is banned from the game for an exploit, and one of their own players is demonstrated by screenshot to have done so again, still they beat the propaganda drum. Truly brilliant. Unless you want to claim that you are neutral in this conflict?
STFU our CEO was banned becouse one of u ******* CEO petitioned him BUT HE DOESNT DO ANYTHING WRONG and the GM unlikle belive your petition
the only one who allways EXPLOID are the member of GOONLAG
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Deja Thoris
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Posted - 2006.07.01 12:53:00 -
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I'm neutral on this but surely they entered the POS through entering the PW and not through a magic exploit?
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Deva Blackfire
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Posted - 2006.07.01 13:06:00 -
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FFS GOONS
Another killmail this time with 50BMs - so guy must hold abt 100 in cargohold. Dont tell me he was also copying them or whatever. Stop this bull**** please.
Name was Ladyluck, rifter full of BMs.
Quote: Cargo Bookmark 47 Thorn Rocket 180 Standard Missile Launcher II 1 Bloodclaw Precision Light Missile 38
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PanzerGrenadier
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Posted - 2006.07.01 13:07:00 -
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Originally by: Cefte
Originally by: Astarte Nosferatu
Originally by: Y Ashanti But just shows your fear of being unable to win a fair fight I guess.
Fair fight? Hundreds of n00bs using exploits to kill a powerhouse? GoonFleet/GoonWaffe and their allies are no match for D2 and allies in a 'fair fight'. You do however beat them nicely when using can/drone lag exploits.
I must say, I am both impressed and envious at the loyalty shown by D2's allies. After the CEO of the client corp that they are defending is banned from the game for an exploit, and one of their own players is demonstrated by screenshot to have done so again, still they beat the propaganda drum. Truly brilliant. Unless you want to claim that you are neutral in this conflict?
So, what purpose does launching drones in the POS bubble serve again?
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Dianabolic
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Posted - 2006.07.01 13:09:00 -
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Originally by: Cefte
Originally by: Astarte Nosferatu
Originally by: Y Ashanti But just shows your fear of being unable to win a fair fight I guess.
Fair fight? Hundreds of n00bs using exploits to kill a powerhouse? GoonFleet/GoonWaffe and their allies are no match for D2 and allies in a 'fair fight'. You do however beat them nicely when using can/drone lag exploits.
I must say, I am both impressed and envious at the loyalty shown by D2's allies. After the CEO of the client corp that they are defending is banned from the game for an exploit, and one of their own players is demonstrated by screenshot to have done so again, still they beat the propaganda drum. Truly brilliant. Unless you want to claim that you are neutral in this conflict?
I'm hardly an ally of d2, fyi.
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Happydayz
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Posted - 2006.07.01 13:14:00 -
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Originally by: Deva Blackfire FFS GOONS
Another killmail this time with 50BMs - so guy must hold abt 100 in cargohold. Dont tell me he was also copying them or whatever. Stop this bull**** please.
Name was Ladyluck, rifter full of BMs.
Quote: Cargo Bookmark 47 Thorn Rocket 180 Standard Missile Launcher II 1 Bloodclaw Precision Light Missile 38
I'm not quite sure what the argument here is. Are you saying that the goons are flying ships into battle loaded with bookmarks in order to lag people out? If I understand the game mechanics correctly it won't really matter if the BM's are in a ship during a battle, it will only really cause lag if the ship gets blown up.
Looking at the map there were literally hundreds of kills every day for the past few days, I'd wager most of them goonfleet. Assuming that they are trying to intentionally lag people out with bookmarks you would think that you would have more then 2 killmails with bookmarks in them.
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Kyria Timeyu
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Posted - 2006.07.01 13:20:00 -
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Also, an important part of any assault on a new region is bookmark distribution logistics. It makes sense that people would carry bookmarks in their cargo hold that they were planning to distribute to others.
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Jurushy
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Posted - 2006.07.01 13:20:00 -
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Edited by: Jurushy on 01/07/2006 13:22:35 Edited by: Jurushy on 01/07/2006 13:21:04
Originally by: Happydayz
Originally by: Deva Blackfire FFS GOONS
Another killmail this time with 50BMs - so guy must hold abt 100 in cargohold. Dont tell me he was also copying them or whatever. Stop this bull**** please.
Name was Ladyluck, rifter full of BMs.
Quote: Cargo Bookmark 47 Thorn Rocket 180 Standard Missile Launcher II 1 Bloodclaw Precision Light Missile 38
I'm not quite sure what the argument here is. Are you saying that the goons are flying ships into battle loaded with bookmarks in order to lag people out? If I understand the game mechanics correctly it won't really matter if the BM's are in a ship during a battle, it will only really cause lag if the ship gets blown up.
Looking at the map there were literally hundreds of kills every day for the past few days, I'd wager most of them goonfleet. Assuming that they are trying to intentionally lag people out with bookmarks you would think that you would have more then 2 killmails with bookmarks in them.
they dont need to blow up by enemys they selfdestruct 15-30 of ther ships whit BM¦s and we have a nice lage to kill dreads
we cant really check who of the dozends of contis was killed buy our force and also we cant chack the contys becouse they are at the enemy pos
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Rexthor Hammerfists
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Posted - 2006.07.01 13:22:00 -
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its getting silly, YouKnow? - Purple Conquered The World, We the Universe.
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Esaam DeVries
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Posted - 2006.07.01 13:24:00 -
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Originally by: Rexthor Hammerfists its getting silly, YouKnow?
Yeah but we are almost at page 20, we must keep this pace --
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Heptameron
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Posted - 2006.07.01 13:33:00 -
[554]
Edited by: Heptameron on 01/07/2006 13:34:00
Originally by: Kyria Timeyu Also, an important part of any assault on a new region is bookmark distribution logistics. It makes sense that people would carry bookmarks in their cargo hold that they were planning to distribute to others.
uhuh yea right... if i did that, I would expected to get shot by my own alliance. This alone shows that your a goonnoob... no seasoned pilot would offer such a sweet gift to their enemies by diving into a 100+ lagged fleet battle with all our super secret safe bm's nicely tucked in an unsecure hold when they could have left them in one of the oh so many cans inside an oh so secure pos shield.
Let's not even CONSIDER for a second that's an easy way to drop a can instead of using much needed items like ammunition... i mean come on now, who would think of doing that? ---------------------------------------------- We can't all be heroes, because somebody has to sit on the curb and clap as they go by |
Ilmonstre
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Posted - 2006.07.01 13:35:00 -
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Jurushy why wouldnt goon wanna play for fun and creatin lag isnt really boosting the fun factor and where is this proof of those 15-20 people selfdestructing then becouse i find it a wild acusation and its based on thin air if you dont have annything to back you up.
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Dianabolic
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Posted - 2006.07.01 13:35:00 -
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Originally by: Kyria Timeyu Also, an important part of any assault on a new region is bookmark distribution logistics. It makes sense that people would carry bookmarks in their cargo hold that they were planning to distribute to others.
errr, no. Just, no. We've had a pilot warned for lagging a system out whilst sat IN a station, copying, with only friendlies in the system. Out of respect for others the copying of bms should NOT take place in this kinde of scenario.
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Andraxx
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Posted - 2006.07.01 13:43:00 -
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Edited by: Andraxx on 01/07/2006 13:44:03 Yes WildCard is banned for 14 day and it seems some people arn't abel to read
WildCard to FC: Im since ten minutes 36au out from the enemy POS. And still under fire: FC to WildCard: Can you activate anyting? WildCard to FC: No I can't activate/deactive modules. Also i cant lock at this range. I transfer you what i see: WildCard's View WildCard to FC: I try to relog. brb FC to Wildcard: Ok an you get back into the game? WildCard to FC: No, i see a realy black universe. So last chance "I do a stuck petion, so that i can get back in. Next day: WildCard you have won a 14 day holyday.
Eyerone which can think a little can see what is the truth. And is i know WildCard he will never forget what you have done....
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Deva Blackfire
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Posted - 2006.07.01 13:52:00 -
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Originally by: Happydayz
I'm not quite sure what the argument here is. Are you saying that the goons are flying ships into battle loaded with bookmarks in order to lag people out?
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If I understand the game mechanics correctly it won't really matter if the BM's are in a ship during a battle, it will only really cause lag if the ship gets blown up.
Guess what. That was a killmail from battle at Goon POS! Hurray! His ship was blown to pieces dropping a can full of... BMs!
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Looking at the map there were literally hundreds of kills every day for the past few days, I'd wager most of them goonfleet. Assuming that they are trying to intentionally lag people out with bookmarks you would think that you would have more then 2 killmails with bookmarks in them.
I just checked my kills and i dont have too many of em (5 yesterday, 5 2 days ago). 2/10 ships killed by me (20%) had BMs in cargo hold. I can say i was lucky and only 10% actually has BMs. Wow - it is 15 ships per one fleet engagement.
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Poolpy
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Posted - 2006.07.01 14:10:00 -
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Originally by: Deva Blackfire
I just checked my kills and i dont have too many of em (5 yesterday, 5 2 days ago). 2/10 ships killed by me (20%) had BMs in cargo hold. I can say i was lucky and only 10% actually has BMs. Wow - it is 15 ships per one fleet engagement.
You can't make a good statistic with only 10 killmail, use the d2 killboard and check at least 100 kill...
Anyway, I'm looking in both killboard (d2 and goon), and from the killmails, it does'nt seem that there is a generalized use (your "only" 10%) of bookmarks in teh cargohold from the goons...
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Jurushy
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Posted - 2006.07.01 14:20:00 -
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Edited by: Jurushy on 01/07/2006 14:21:21
Originally by: Ilmonstre Jurushy why wouldnt goon wanna play for fun and creatin lag isnt really boosting the fun factor and where is this proof of those 15-20 people selfdestructing then becouse i find it a wild acusation and its based on thin air if you dont have annything to back you up.
becouse they would be able to kill a dread which can not be controlled by the pilot? this fight of the goons have nothing todo whit fun they only want to take over Cloud Ring whit all methods they can use unclude exploids otherwise they would be already kicked out of the system and i am sure they know that
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DeadDuck
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Posted - 2006.07.01 14:31:00 -
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Just dont understand why people continue to defend GOON pilots that use game exploits to use Lag...
Is because you guys are hostile towards the Northern Alliances ? Because if that is the main reason to defend Goons,and their practices, beware that you are helping people spoiling a great game.
Massive evidences have been posted and people continue to find explanations for a singular behaviour for the pilots that died with 100 bms in the cargo, and so on ...
If this kind of actions continues we will never have a free lag game.... no matter what you guys say to CCP to "upgrade the servers", "fix the dam game" it will never happen, the lag will continue to rule and people will not bother to connect.... the game will die with time.
Droping cans full of bms, deploying drones inside pos .. etc, etc, etc, are just tactics to cause lag !!!!
Lets put our passions regarding alliances aside and lets ALL fight against this procedures ... THEY DONT HELP ANYONE, even people currently using them will regret the massive use of this exploits on a short/medium term when some others will employ the same dam tactics against them...
A worried CCP costumer
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HardcoreHak
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Posted - 2006.07.01 14:34:00 -
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guys GUYS if your character doesn't have at least 20mil sp, you shouldn't be able to play the game. in fact, maybe they should just shut down new player registration. and instead of combat, you just target somebody and press a button, and then whoever has more sp automatically wins.
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MasterEYE
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Posted - 2006.07.01 14:35:00 -
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Here u got atleast one selfdestructing
Linkhttp://dl.eve-files.com/media/0607/2006.06.29.21.48.20.png
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Poolpy
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Posted - 2006.07.01 14:40:00 -
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Edited by: Poolpy on 01/07/2006 14:41:09
Originally by: MasterEYE Here u got atleast one selfdestructing
Linkhttp://dl.eve-files.com/media/0607/2006.06.29.21.48.20.png
How self destructing the capsule cause lag ? Maybe he whant to return immediately in a station ?
P.S. check the message, he aborted the self destruction.
EDIT : i'm neutral, i don't care about alliances war ^^ (thats for the people that think i'm biased)
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Deva Blackfire
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Posted - 2006.07.01 14:55:00 -
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Originally by: Poolpy Edited by: Poolpy on 01/07/2006 14:41:09
Originally by: MasterEYE Here u got atleast one selfdestructing
Linkhttp://dl.eve-files.com/media/0607/2006.06.29.21.48.20.png
How self destructing the capsule cause lag ? Maybe he whant to return immediately in a station ?
P.S. check the message, he aborted the self destruction.
EDIT : i'm neutral, i don't care about alliances war ^^ (thats for the people that think i'm biased)
Usually goons selfdestruct much more pods in fleet combat. At once or very close to each other.
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theforce
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Posted - 2006.07.01 15:03:00 -
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lol 20 pages already
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Juggernaut Kell
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Posted - 2006.07.01 15:07:00 -
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Originally by: Poolpy Edited by: Poolpy on 01/07/2006 14:41:09
Originally by: MasterEYE Here u got atleast one selfdestructing
Linkhttp://dl.eve-files.com/media/0607/2006.06.29.21.48.20.png
How self destructing the capsule cause lag ? Maybe he whant to return immediately in a station ?
P.S. check the message, he aborted the self destruction.
EDIT : i'm neutral, i don't care about alliances war ^^ (thats for the people that think i'm biased)
Umm, can you come up with some more excuses? And the last line is somewhat comical, bottom line is just like every other gaming league I have seen, the losers resort to exploits. Simple as that.
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13th
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Posted - 2006.07.01 15:18:00 -
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This is getting quite ridiculous and is rapidly entering the realm of baseless name calling and insulting.
Certain people need to take a deep breath and walk away from the forums for a few days.
Fight it out in game, not on the forums. If you find something questionable, petition it and let the GMs sort it out. It is their job to determine what is an exploit, not yours.
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Zfhjfdthe
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Posted - 2006.07.01 15:22:00 -
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Goonfleet has 700 members whose only job is to fly into the enemies in their pods and selfdestruct them to create lag.
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Poolpy
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Posted - 2006.07.01 15:26:00 -
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Originally by: Juggernaut Kell
Umm, can you come up with some more excuses? And the last line is somewhat comical, bottom line is just like every other gaming league I have seen, the losers resort to exploits. Simple as that.
Excuse me if I'm naif and I don't think that every action made by the enemy is for creating lag.
And finally i'm not in the north, so I can only make supposition from the screenshot.
Anyway i agree that losers resort to exploits, and if they are really causing lag with cheap tricks, they will be banned.
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