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Xenuria
The Scope Gallente Federation
880
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Posted - 2014.07.10 23:25:00 -
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HHHNNNGGG wrote:Thank you Xenuria for your enlightening point of view about the status of null security space and the sterility of the goons. I think when the goons implode from the inside they will point back at this exact post and say that you predicted it all, just as you've predicted so many other things in the past.
Future coalitions can only be so lucky as to have such insights. CSM 9 Candidate Philanthropist Polymath Savant Hero |
Voyager Arran
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
395
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Posted - 2014.07.10 23:27:00 -
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Oh, I'll also point out that Xenuria mixed up False Dichotomies and False Equivalencies. This is trivial, but given that he was trying to name-drop debate jargon as a form of rebuttal it's analogous to when grammar spergs inevitably mix up a there/they're/their or drop an apostrophe during a particularly heated tirade. |
Xenuria
The Scope Gallente Federation
880
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Posted - 2014.07.10 23:30:00 -
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Voyager Arran wrote:Oh, I'll also point out that Xenuria mixed up False Dichotomies and False Equivalencies. This is trivial, but given that he was trying to name-drop debate jargon as a form of rebuttal it's analogous to when grammar spergs inevitably mix up a there/they're/their or drop an apostrophe during a particularly heated tirade.
Tell me how exactly I "mixed up" False Dichotomies and False Equivalencies. While your at it can we go back to discussing the failure that is the CFC "invading" Delve? CSM 9 Candidate Philanthropist Polymath Savant Hero |
Elmo Perry
State War Academy Caldari State
2
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Posted - 2014.07.10 23:33:00 -
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Xenuria wrote:While your at it can we go back to discussing the failure that is the CFC "invading" Delve? What about the failure that is Xenuria invading C&P? All of this should be in CAOD but you are too much of a loser to be accepted into any sov holding corp to post there.
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Xenuria
The Scope Gallente Federation
880
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Posted - 2014.07.10 23:35:00 -
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Elmo Perry wrote:Xenuria wrote:While your at it can we go back to discussing the failure that is the CFC "invading" Delve? What about the failure that is Xenuria invading C&P? All of this should be in CAOD but you are too much of a loser to be accepted into any sov holding corp to post there.
Membership in a solv holding corp is not a requisite of posting to CAOD. I actually am unsure if a corp can hold sov, I am fairly certain you need an alliance for that. CSM 9 Candidate Philanthropist Polymath Savant Hero |
Elmo Perry
State War Academy Caldari State
2
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Posted - 2014.07.10 23:38:00 -
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Xenuria wrote:Membership in a solv holding corp is not a requisite of posting to CAOD. I actually am unsure if a corp can hold sov, I am fairly certain you need an alliance for that. Semantics, you know what I mean chump.
You need to be in a player corp with X number for members.
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Voyager Arran
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
395
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Posted - 2014.07.10 23:39:00 -
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Xenuria wrote:Tell me how exactly I "mixed up" False Dichotomies and False Equivalencies. While your at it can we go back to discussing the failure that is the CFC "invading" Delve?
In your first response to this post, you call my comparison between the CFC and the UK a False Dichotomy. This is absurd, since a False Dichotomy involves an "If not X, then Y" statement and my own post contains nothing of the sort.
Xenuria wrote:Voyager Arran wrote:GoonSwarm Federation, Gett Of My Lawn, and Fweddit are all individual alliances. Together, they are part of the Cluterf*ck Coalition. Claiming that Lawn space is not part of the CFC is akin to saying that Wales is not part of the United Kingdom.
It looks like your misconception is that you think the CFC refers to Goonswarm and not the overall coalition that Goonswarm is a member of. Also you appear to be claiming that renter space is owned by the renters and not the sov holders they're leasing it from. The first is a failure to understand basic information about the group you are fixated on, the latter is laughable on its face. Nice False Dichotomy. You appear to be having trouble forming a coherent statement. Would you like help with that?.
You later identify what you meant to say in the first place; that the CFC and the UK are not similar enough to make a meaningful analogy. You are wrong, but you are at least correctly stating your argument.
Xenuria wrote: You are assuming that I did not understand your statement. In reality I understood your statement perfectly and pointed out the glaring flaws inherent in said statement.
You are falsely equating two things that are not equivalent. I will give you an example.
A square is not equal to a rectangle despite the fact that all squares are rectangles but not all rectangles are squares. The false equivalence you made is somewhat similar in that in your case you are putting the carriage before the horse. I hope this helps.
Again, this is a petty nitpick, but you're a horrible **** trying desperately to sound smarter than you are so why not? |
Xenuria
The Scope Gallente Federation
880
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Posted - 2014.07.10 23:45:00 -
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Voyager Arran wrote:Xenuria wrote:Tell me how exactly I "mixed up" False Dichotomies and False Equivalencies. While your at it can we go back to discussing the failure that is the CFC "invading" Delve? In your first response to this post, you call my comparison between the CFC and the UK a False Dichotomy. This is absurd, since a False Dichotomy involves an "If not X, then Y" statement and my own post contains nothing of the sort. Xenuria wrote:Voyager Arran wrote:GoonSwarm Federation, Gett Of My Lawn, and Fweddit are all individual alliances. Together, they are part of the Cluterf*ck Coalition. Claiming that Lawn space is not part of the CFC is akin to saying that Wales is not part of the United Kingdom.
It looks like your misconception is that you think the CFC refers to Goonswarm and not the overall coalition that Goonswarm is a member of. Also you appear to be claiming that renter space is owned by the renters and not the sov holders they're leasing it from. The first is a failure to understand basic information about the group you are fixated on, the latter is laughable on its face. Nice False Dichotomy. You appear to be having trouble forming a coherent statement. Would you like help with that?. You later identify what you meant to say in the first place; that the CFC and the UK are not similar enough to make a meaningful analogy. You are wrong, but you are at least correctly stating your argument. Xenuria wrote: You are assuming that I did not understand your statement. In reality I understood your statement perfectly and pointed out the glaring flaws inherent in said statement.
You are falsely equating two things that are not equivalent. I will give you an example.
A square is not equal to a rectangle despite the fact that all squares are rectangles but not all rectangles are squares. The false equivalence you made is somewhat similar in that in your case you are putting the carriage before the horse. I hope this helps.
Again, this is a petty nitpick, but you're a horrible **** trying desperately to sound smarter than you are so why not?
When I was in school the two were taught as equivalents. Maybe I am in error, this will not change another failed invasion attempt by goons.
CSM 9 Candidate Philanthropist Polymath Savant Hero |
Elmo Perry
State War Academy Caldari State
2
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Posted - 2014.07.11 00:08:00 -
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Xenuria, so glad I didn't vote for you and you were not elected to CSM |
Voyager Arran
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
397
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Posted - 2014.07.11 00:42:00 -
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I did something terrible and actually read to the end of Xenuria's OP.
This entire thread can be summarized as Xenuria not being familiar with the concept of defensive SBUs. |
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Elmo Perry
State War Academy Caldari State
2
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Posted - 2014.07.11 00:48:00 -
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Voyager, you bad boy. |
Xenuria
The Scope Gallente Federation
880
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Posted - 2014.07.11 01:25:00 -
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Voyager Arran wrote:I did something terrible and actually read to the end of Xenuria's OP.
This entire thread can be summarized as Xenuria not being familiar with the concept of defensive SBUs.
Defensive SBUs... As in the known Exploit that is in direct violation of the TOS.
Great Job, you just exposed your alliance. CSM 9 Candidate Philanthropist Polymath Savant Hero |
Ranamar
Valkyries of Night Of Sound Mind
62
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Posted - 2014.07.11 01:30:00 -
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Xenuria wrote:Defensive SBUs... As in the known Exploit that is in direct violation of the TOS.
Great Job, you just exposed your alliance.
Source?
Is onlining someone else's SBU an exploit too? |
Xenuria
The Scope Gallente Federation
880
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Posted - 2014.07.11 01:31:00 -
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Ranamar wrote:Xenuria wrote:Defensive SBUs... As in the known Exploit that is in direct violation of the TOS.
Great Job, you just exposed your alliance. Source? Is onlining someone else's SBU an exploit too?
I am not going to discus the nature and/or functionality of exploits on the EVEO forums, neither should you. CSM 9 Candidate Philanthropist Polymath Savant Hero |
Voyager Arran
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
398
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Posted - 2014.07.11 01:34:00 -
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So just to confirm, the CFCs invasion of its own territory is off to a disastrous start as the CFC forces arrive to their staging systems to find them already threatened by CFC SBUs.
Looks like the CFC was really one step ahead of the CFC on this one. |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
6218
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Posted - 2014.07.11 01:41:00 -
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Voyager Arran wrote:So just to confirm, the CFCs invasion of its own territory is off to a disastrous start as the CFC forces arrive to their staging systems to find them already threatened by CFC SBUs.
Looks like the CFC was really one step ahead of the CFC on this one. Oh snap, we're finally killing ourseles. ^^ Delicious goon ((tech nerf, siphon, drone assist, supercap)) tears.
Taking a wrecking ball to the futile hopes and broken dreams of skillless blobbers. |
Ranamar
Valkyries of Night Of Sound Mind
62
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Posted - 2014.07.11 01:43:00 -
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Xenuria wrote:Ranamar wrote:Xenuria wrote:Defensive SBUs... As in the known Exploit that is in direct violation of the TOS.
Great Job, you just exposed your alliance. Source? Is onlining someone else's SBU an exploit too? I am not going to discus the nature and/or functionality of exploits on the EVEO forums, neither should you.
I am very familiar with how defensive SBUs work.
Where can I find an authority declaring it an exploit? |
Paaaulo
Dirt 'n' Glitter I Whip My Slaves Back and Forth
3
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Posted - 2014.07.11 01:44:00 -
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Goon's clearly do not follow the bushido code and lack honour |
Xenuria
The Scope Gallente Federation
880
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Posted - 2014.07.11 01:45:00 -
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Ranamar wrote:Xenuria wrote:Ranamar wrote:Xenuria wrote:Defensive SBUs... As in the known Exploit that is in direct violation of the TOS.
Great Job, you just exposed your alliance. Source? Is onlining someone else's SBU an exploit too? I am not going to discus the nature and/or functionality of exploits on the EVEO forums, neither should you. I am very familiar with how defensive SBUs work. Where can I find an authority declaring it an exploit?
Check the old forums. It's an exploit as it prevents legitimate use of SBUs and yields an unfair advantage to the exploiter. CSM 9 Candidate Philanthropist Polymath Savant Hero |
Voyager Arran
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
399
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Posted - 2014.07.11 01:48:00 -
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Typically when people ask for sources, it means they actually want to have the information presented to them rather than just take it on your assurances that they exist as stated. |
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ZAKURELL0 LINDA
Black Scorpions Inc Circle-Of-Two
55
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Posted - 2014.07.11 01:53:00 -
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*popcorn* its that guy again, staying in a npc corp and wanna discuss about sov and stuff RIP Iron Lady |
Xenuria
The Scope Gallente Federation
880
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Posted - 2014.07.11 01:57:00 -
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Voyager Arran wrote:Typically when people ask for sources, it means they actually want to have the information presented to them rather than just take it on your assurances that they exist as stated.
Your back peddling is laughable. Admit it, over a 24 hr period you were trolled by Xenuria into admitting that your alliance was using exploits to keep their staging systems safe. This is why I will always be better than you, all of you.
You think you understand espionage and subterfuge because your misanthropic Leader calls himself the "SpyMaster"? You have no idea. The CFC will continue to play at soldiers and The Mittani will continue to act out his fantasy of being popular. All the NIPs and broken agreements in the world will not stall my agenda.
I am and will continue to be the one who pulls the strings.
*drops mic* CSM 9 Candidate Philanthropist Polymath Savant Hero |
thetwilitehour
GoonWaffe
261
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Posted - 2014.07.11 01:57:00 -
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Xenuria wrote:
Let me fix that for you.
CFC announce an Invasion of an area of space they claim to already own. CFC uses Defensive SBUs to prevent their staging systems from being taken. Members of CFC are baited by Xenuria into openly admitting on a public forum that they are using said exploit to their specific benefit.
Xenuria MoonWalks away...
/thread
I don't for a second believe you can actually moonwalk. We required proof, post a video immediately.
I'm sure the GSF is about to be deleted by GMs over that one thing that one guy said on the forum and you claiming to be an expert on what is and is not an exploit in sov warfare, so this moonwalk fedora video could be your victory dance. |
Xenuria
The Scope Gallente Federation
880
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Posted - 2014.07.11 01:59:00 -
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thetwilitehour wrote:Xenuria wrote:
Let me fix that for you.
CFC announce an Invasion of an area of space they claim to already own. CFC uses Defensive SBUs to prevent their staging systems from being taken. Members of CFC are baited by Xenuria into openly admitting on a public forum that they are using said exploit to their specific benefit.
Xenuria MoonWalks away...
/thread
I don't for a second believe you can actually moonwalk. We required proof, post a video immediately. I'm sure the GSF is about to be deleted by GMs over that one thing that one guy said on the forum and you claiming to be an expert on what is and is not an exploit in sov warfare, so this moonwalk fedora video could be your victory dance.
Typically I only moonwalk after one too many fireballs or too many shots of old grandad. I will make a special exception for this. CSM 9 Candidate Philanthropist Polymath Savant Hero |
Elmo Perry
State War Academy Caldari State
2
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Posted - 2014.07.11 01:59:00 -
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Xenuria is a ****
fill in the blanks. |
DaiTengu
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
153
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Posted - 2014.07.11 02:02:00 -
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Xenuria wrote:Voyager Arran wrote:Typically when people ask for sources, it means they actually want to have the information presented to them rather than just take it on your assurances that they exist as stated. Your back peddling is laughable. Admit it, over a 24 hr period you were trolled by Xenuria into admitting that your alliance was using exploits to keep their staging systems safe. This is why I will always be better than you, all of you. You think you understand espionage and subterfuge because your misanthropic Leader calls himself the " SpyMaster"? You have no idea. The CFC will continue to play at soldiers and The Mittani will continue to act out his fantasy of being popular. All the NIPs and broken agreements in the world will not stall my agenda. I am and will continue to be the one who pulls the strings. * drops mic*
So, do you have that link to a CCP employee declaring that defensive SBUs are an exploit? Because I eagerly await every large alliance in the game being banned for it.
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Xenuria
The Scope Gallente Federation
880
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Posted - 2014.07.11 02:09:00 -
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DaiTengu wrote:Xenuria wrote:Voyager Arran wrote:Typically when people ask for sources, it means they actually want to have the information presented to them rather than just take it on your assurances that they exist as stated. Your back peddling is laughable. Admit it, over a 24 hr period you were trolled by Xenuria into admitting that your alliance was using exploits to keep their staging systems safe. This is why I will always be better than you, all of you. You think you understand espionage and subterfuge because your misanthropic Leader calls himself the " SpyMaster"? You have no idea. The CFC will continue to play at soldiers and The Mittani will continue to act out his fantasy of being popular. All the NIPs and broken agreements in the world will not stall my agenda. I am and will continue to be the one who pulls the strings. * drops mic* So, do you have that link to a CCP employee declaring that defensive SBUs are an exploit? Because I eagerly await every large alliance in the game being banned for it.
The old "everybody was doing it" defense...
CSM 9 Candidate Philanthropist Polymath Savant Hero |
Voyager Arran
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
399
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Posted - 2014.07.11 02:14:00 -
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Yeah the posting of a random line member on the EVE-O forums will definitely be what brings us down over this certified exploit, and not the defensive SBUs we've been using in every single war since before I started playing the game. As an added bonus, every other major power in Nullsec also uses them so we'd finally get to live the dream of watching all the coalitions get red buttoned.
While we're on the subject of you merrily skipping away from reality, you do realize that you are not the Emperor of the Universe and reality does not redefine itself according to your decrees, right? You saying I'm doing something does not mean I am actually doing that thing. |
Aram Kachaturian
Love Squad Pasta Syndicate
96
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Posted - 2014.07.11 02:16:00 -
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Coc.aine is a hell of a drug Official Poster:-áhttp://i.imgur.com/oTdKSTi.jpg (Limited stock, contact me to order) |
Paranoid Loyd
844
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Posted - 2014.07.11 02:20:00 -
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Elmo Perry wrote:Xenuria is a ****
fill in the blanks.
I don't like this guy anymore than you, but you are making yourself look even more foolish than him. Say something remotely intelligent or shut it already. "PvE in EVE is a trap to turn you into PvP content, don't confuse it for actual gameplay." Lipbite |
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