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Commander Askiras
State War Academy
Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.07.12 21:56:00 -
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I am interested in buying a vargur for ratting but I don't know if the vargur is a good mission boat, compared to golem the vargur has less dope but more cap and golem has more dps and less cap, which is best, yet again I can't fly a golem but a vargur yes, is the vargur worth it? |
Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space
The ROC
7811
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Posted - 2014.07.12 21:58:00 -
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Wrong forum.
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KnowUsByTheDead
Sunlight...Through The Blight.
2038
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Posted - 2014.07.12 22:00:00 -
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Ships & Modules
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Commander Askiras
State War Academy
Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.07.12 22:17:00 -
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Thank you |
masternerdguy
The Great Harmon Institute Of Technology
Enemy Spotted.
1771
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Posted - 2014.07.12 22:23:00 -
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I find a lot of people prefer the Macharial because tank is not the limiting factor in most ratting, it is how quickly you can clear the rats. Last I checked a Macharial is faster.
Things are only impossible until they are not. |
Hasikan Miallok
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
954
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Posted - 2014.07.12 23:18:00 -
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The vargur has less dope ? |
Ralph King-Griffin
Lords.Of.Midnight
The Devil's Warrior Alliance
2785
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Posted - 2014.07.13 00:06:00 -
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Hasikan Miallok wrote:The vargur has less dope ?
I think he meant psssshhhh.
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
23135
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Posted - 2014.07.13 00:14:00 -
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Hasikan Miallok wrote:The vargur has less dope ?
Well yes. The Golem has probably been used a fair bit more throughout history so the accumulated data on previous engagements should be more for that than the Vargur.
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Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat
Working Stiffs
3864
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Posted - 2014.07.13 01:45:00 -
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My Vargur is my favorite level 4 mission ship at the moment.
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4253871#post4253871 |
Commander Askiras
State War Academy
Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.07.13 02:35:00 -
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Auto cannons work, or should I use 1400 |
Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat
Working Stiffs
3865
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Posted - 2014.07.13 04:09:00 -
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Commander Askiras wrote:Auto cannons work, or should I use 1400
AutoCannons as in my fit: 800mm Repeating Cannon II
With the rigs and tracking computers (drop 1 script for more range when needed = rarely), there is plenty of range for optimal DPS. NPC will approach you to 60 km or less. MWD quickly puts you in the middle of them, and you can easily tank everything.
Artillery is slow, tracks worse, and is lower DPS. |
Commander Askiras
State War Academy
Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.07.13 04:38:00 -
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Won't I be using the vargur in bastion mode? |
Haaranovor tenn
Trans Secunda
Nulli Secunda
9
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Posted - 2014.07.13 05:53:00 -
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Golem has %100 interchangeable damage types without getting into falloff and tracking details. Generally missiles have been favored for PvE content for that reason. It doesn't make a huge difference in rauders though, they all kick ass. I'd go entirely on what ship you like looking at for hours on end. |
Commander Askiras
State War Academy
Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.07.13 05:57:00 -
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ok |
Emma Muutaras
State War Academy
Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.07.13 09:47:00 -
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vargur should work great for missions enter bastion next to your mobile tracktor unit stick 4 salvagers in the spare 4 high slots salvage the wrecks while making wrecks while MTU brings them to you and picks up the modules |
Gregor Parud
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Posted - 2014.07.13 10:19:00 -
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Haaranovor tenn wrote:Golem has %100 interchangeable damage types without getting into falloff and tracking details. Generally missiles have been favored for PvE content for that reason. It doesn't make a huge difference in rauders though, they all kick ass. I'd go entirely on what ship you like looking at for hours on end.
Missiles are favoured because it allows the player to not have to engage his brain in regards to tracking and "magic" stuff like falloff, I highly doubt that the average raven user has enough reasoning power to go "selectable damage types is awesome". There's massive down sides to missiles (damage reduction regardless of vector, flight time meaning that you'll waste time and possibly volleys to make sure the target is dead, and of course NPC defender missiles).
The Vargur is a very strong performing ship with its instant damage, high dps, good tracking, zero cap weapons and good base omni resists (so it works everywhere and generally is less susceptible to ganking). |
Inxentas Ultramar
Ultramar Independent Contracting
1368
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Posted - 2014.07.13 11:01:00 -
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And a good range of selectable ammo / damage types as well. Projectile weapons are fine in PVE. |
Cecil Montague
PCG Enterprises
46
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Posted - 2014.07.13 19:04:00 -
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The Vargur is also vastly superior to the Golem on frigate heavy missions as it can one shot them even at fairly close range.
"There is no such thing as an effective segment of Totality" - Bruce Lee: The only man with a Chuck Norris killmail. |
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ISD Ezwal
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
1866
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Posted - 2014.07.14 09:12:00 -
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This thread has been moved to Ships & Modules.
ISD Ezwal
Captain
Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs)
Interstellar Services Department |
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Maeltstome
Twisted Insanity.
The Kadeshi
514
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Posted - 2014.07.14 10:18:00 -
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1400's are preference. less ammo, more 1-shoting rats.
but AC's are good too. Less Micro Required... and more paper DPS if you decide to come out of bastion mode and move towards a target.
I got bored of the Vargur though and moved to the ishtar. Less effort/ISK |
Bastion Arzi
Dat Tax
109
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Posted - 2014.07.14 16:36:00 -
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my pve vargur shows 30 seconds of cap in the fitting window - yet i never fall below 50% cap in missions
such is the power of its reps that i only need to pulse it when ive taken almost 50% damage.
The thing reps 3k in a single pulse. (I use a sub optimal overtanked varg )
It is also quite fun to play in that u can have quite a bit of micromanagment to do with targets and stuff.
to explain i have targetting up so i can target 10 ships. so i target 7 enemies 3 wrecks and while im blapping enemies im salvaging wrecks (MTU deployed 3 x salavger in highs)
this leads to a lot of retargeting wrecks as well as replacing dps onto a new target once one is dead.
Keep loot in the station and let it build up. Then contract frog to move to jita.
Profit - heavily
tl dr vargur is awesome and fun to play |
Decon Matarius
Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2014.07.14 17:03:00 -
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Maeltstome wrote:I got bored of the Vargur though and moved to the ishtar. Less effort/ISK
Never not fly an ishtar. |
Val'Dore
PlanetCorp InterStellar
665
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Posted - 2014.07.15 03:02:00 -
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The Vargur is the best projectile Marauder by far.
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Anize Oramara
EVE Protection Agency
Bloodline.
190
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Posted - 2014.07.15 08:37:00 -
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Val'Dore wrote:The Vargur is the best projectile Marauder by far.
I see what you did thar. |
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