A carrot you say? Sure we coudl ahve better carrots. I still think high sec POCOs and PI should make more money and minimum taxes shoudl be higher. Also The war tax should be GIVEN to the war target is they manage to win the war report balance.

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Just leave your corp, join an NPC corp and make a chat channel for your corp mates for the duration of the war. Rejoin when war is over.

Never pay a ransom - it will just flag you as someone who will pay and you'll be decced again in short order.

[...] Eve is a PvP oriented game, corps must be strong to survive in that theater. As such, corps need to be able to defend themselves first and be industrialists second. Wardeccing in high sec is a part of the game, like "bumping." Both could easily be removed, but that would detract from the game's core value set. [...]

Ok, having read through this thread I can only say this:

EVE is broken...and it has been broken by the very people who control it.

Wars have a purpose. However, with all of the recent changes, CCP has made the entire wardec subject a mockery of gaming. Why do I say this? Because no more is it a matter of rationality...nor is it a matter of zone control. ... .

Just because you do not understand the motivation of someone declaring war does not make them irrational. Sometimes people blow up miners because other miners stop them from mining. Sometimes they blow up POS's because they want a pos moon. Sometimes they want prestige and reputation while others it is a motivation of shutting down your production.

I bet that most people that declare war on you have done a bit of research before doing so. The moment you sign up to a corporation you accept the fact that your corporation is able to own unified property. You may forfeit this and join an NPC corporation - you will no longer gain any benefits that corporations give you. But you will be safe.

My war targets pay me to go away, and I do. Maybe you should just put your wallet where your mouth is.

Not true at all. The last corp my group ransomed ended up working with us on future endeavors.

if you are not capable of defending yourself, and are not willing to pay a ransom, then consider hiring an effective merc corp. If I know for a fact that a Corp is going to hire another Merc corp, I'll definitely reconsider declaring war as the risk involved increases significantly.

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If 10 guys mining in high sec and running missions can't come up with 500 Million between them, for a ransom/hiring a more dangerous outfit, then they should reevaluate what they are doing.

I think you'd be suprised how cheap some Mercenaries work. If you are just looking to make targets nervous many mercs will do it just for the 50 Mil war dec fee.

If 10 guys mining in high sec and running missions can't come up with 500 Million between them, for a ransom/hiring a more dangerous outfit, then they should reevaluate what they are doing.

Yeah, just drop to a NPC corp and create a channel so you can all still chat and work together.

You can say stupid this person or that, but in the end you still wind up with just as many stupid people as before...

I don't really see HS corps doing any better over time, only worse. (200+ active wardecs and barely any corps even fight much less get many kills)
IMO there are a multitude of reasons holding people back, not sure what all they are but some possiblities:

-A multiude of corps that don't have the advanced combat skills and numbers to fight. It takes a while to gain enough skills to get into a ship that can do much any damage to highly skilled opponents.
(Going up against an enemy in nearly all Faction/Pirate/T2/T3 ships, command ships, makes combat for ppl with few skills seem pointless to engage)

-Difficuty with players transitioning from HS industry to PVP, when all skills are set for PVE/Indy it leave those players useless in most fights.

-Too many small corps that cannot field enough players at once to have the numbers needed to match a typical gatecamp.

Some of these arguments may be valid but only are speculation to me at this point.

In the end PVE and PVP are necessary mechanics, both are needed to make the game run. Thats fine and needed for depth and interaction.

Honestly, the best way to solidify your corp is to look at the engagement platform your enemy is using against you (via your lossmails) and developing a counter doctrine to neutralize the threat. It's good content for your members and it may get the multibox dude/dudette to back down.

Actual combat (ty for your service) doesn't translate to game mechanics. You still need to find, fix, and destroy your space enemy.

The same thing here has happened to my Main's corp, got war dec'd by a small but experienced corp for no other reason than to be annoying [...] how do we fight back against skilled T2/T3 pilots when we can barely fly thrashers effectively?

The same thing here has happened to my Main's corp, got war dec'd by a small but experienced corp for no other reason than to be annoying, their is already players wanting to leave we dont have pvp skills, its easy enough to say get a thrasher fit out cheap and fight back but a group of unskilled industrial pilots in thrashers with very little pvp experience wouldnt stand a chance against the 4 T3's we had camping the station last night, basically the corp has gone into hibernbation we cant undock without being attacked we cant fight back to any level of effectivness, we have no friends we can ask for help so our only option is to either leave corp or not play for a week....

They wont come to an agreement they just want to destoy our corp that is their only aim (as shown by previous corps they have attacked/destoyed.... they see us a small easy target ( which to them we are) how do we fight back against skilled T2/T3 pilots when we can barely fly thrashers effectively?

Now everyone in the corp pays for their characters and thats now 1 week where we are paying for something we cannot use, we didnt ask for the war and we have to suffer because of it?

I understand eve is a PvP game but its also a sandbox, many situations we are prepared for like gankers and going into low sec we know how to do our best here but we have absolutly no chance of doing anything with 4-5 players outside the station hunting us..... also they have out of corp logi with them... what do we do against that even if we did decide to fight (lose) they just rep them up we cant hit them without concord interveening.

im sure alot of people disagree but it is a bad mechanic and unfair on small industrial corps and new players,

* sorry about the spelling.