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Dachtor
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Posted - 2006.06.30 22:41:00 -
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How many kessies with light missiles would be required to instpop a industial ship (badger II, Iteron V, Mammoth) before getting owned by Concord or Sentry Guns? Looking at enough time to get possibly 2 volleys of each ship.
How many Caracals with Heavy Missiles? (one volley each ship)
Any experiences and ideas are Greatly appreciatted |

Scoundrelus
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Posted - 2006.06.30 22:56:00 -
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Your about to get flamed.
But I think it would probably depend on the missile skills of the kestrels. Ballistic Control Systems would be a must I believe. =============================================== *If you don't want me to complain about WCS then don't complain when I gank you with a 5 man fleet just so I have enough points on |

Alha Qmar
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Posted - 2006.06.30 23:03:00 -
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A kessie should be able to shoot 2 rounds at a hauler with an afterburner going. For haulers also very depending on their kind of setup. U can pimp a badger up to 3k shields, are 1.5 k shields with 2 invull fields going.
My preference goes to mining barges, 2 kessies pop a retriever 3 a covetor.
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Dachtor
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Posted - 2006.06.30 23:22:00 -
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Edited by: Dachtor on 30/06/2006 23:24:10 Edited by: Dachtor on 30/06/2006 23:22:54 Oh FYI before the flames im lookign to kill Haulers in the Macro mining ops instead of the macro miners themselves. I already have plans for them. Also lookign at hittign the macroers outside the stations they deliver to in low sec where thier ferox support isnt around.
Edit: Also missle skills would be aroun lvl 3 to 4 for everything.
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Dark Shikari
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Posted - 2006.06.30 23:49:00 -
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Use rockets, and attack in systems 0.5-0.7 sec level so CONCORD doesn't come instantly.
--Proud member of the [23]--
-WTB Platinum Technite, WTS Nanotransistors, Heavy Electron II, 100mn AB II- |

Mineral Inquisitor
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Posted - 2006.07.01 05:37:00 -
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Are you insane?
Drop a jetcan and rename it as one of theirs. The hauler will come up to the can whose name it was programmed to find, take from it, and haul back to station.
You'll be able to shoot them without being WTFPWNED by Concord. (My corp has a MM hunting section, in which I'm an apprentice. )
And don't forget to steal their ore and put it to good use. 
Originally by: Metatron Celestia You can stab, gank, grief, ransom miners, steal from their can, but if you pop their ore can, my gawd there will be hell to pay.
Where'd my char go? |

Samirol
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Posted - 2006.07.01 06:03:00 -
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Originally by: Mineral Inquisitor Are you insane?
Drop a jetcan and rename it as one of theirs. The hauler will come up to the can whose name it was programmed to find, take from it, and haul back to station.
You'll be able to shoot them without being WTFPWNED by Concord. (My corp has a MM hunting section, in which I'm an apprentice. )
And don't forget to steal their ore and put it to good use. 
he is thinking of doing gate ganking...
5 should be enough
Originally by: Tekka
Originally by: ISD "Can I have your stuff?" isn't constructive, please stop.
neither is 95% of the internet
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Mineral Inquisitor
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Posted - 2006.07.01 06:05:00 -
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Originally by: Samirol
Originally by: Mineral Inquisitor Are you insane?
Drop a jetcan and rename it as one of theirs. The hauler will come up to the can whose name it was programmed to find, take from it, and haul back to station.
You'll be able to shoot them without being WTFPWNED by Concord. (My corp has a MM hunting section, in which I'm an apprentice. )
And don't forget to steal their ore and put it to good use. 
he is thinking of doing gate ganking...
5 should be enough
In which case, I agree.
Originally by: Metatron Celestia You can stab, gank, grief, ransom miners, steal from their can, but if you pop their ore can, my gawd there will be hell to pay.
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Lacero Callrisian
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Posted - 2006.07.03 17:00:00 -
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So, how many ravens to insta pop a freighter now they drop loot?
THUS IS THE SHAME OF CCP |

FowlPlayChiken
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Posted - 2006.07.03 17:10:00 -
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Edited by: FowlPlayChiken on 03/07/2006 17:10:59 freighters drop loot now?.
hmm. i would be worried at the lag a destroyed freighter would cause.
if it were filled with small cans, the server would crash. or that node at least
Just podded this sig, now where is my toy? - Wrangler |
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Humpalot
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Posted - 2006.07.03 17:35:00 -
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Originally by: FowlPlayChiken Edited by: FowlPlayChiken on 03/07/2006 17:10:59 freighters drop loot now?.
hmm. i would be worried at the lag a destroyed freighter would cause.
if it were filled with small cans, the server would crash. or that node at least
Apparently CCP is too and freighter loot drops have been delayed.
Originally by: Kieron A new news item is up, the freighter changes scheduled to be deployed tomorrow have been delayed. The mechanics of the change work good, too good in fact. Testing over the weekend backed up some of the forum comments and the effects a fully-loaded freighter's destruction on a server node are too high to allow this change into the game in its current state.
FWIW I have seen different numbers but it seems 15 Ravens would manage a gank on a freighter (seen as low as 7 and as high as 30 tossed about).
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Jita Pricechecker
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Posted - 2006.07.04 12:30:00 -
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I would hate to imagine if goonfleet turned pirate :) 1000 Kessie's vs freightor:)
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Microsoft Sam
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Posted - 2006.07.04 12:44:00 -
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and the freighter wins.
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Aramendel
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Posted - 2006.07.04 21:52:00 -
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Originally by: Humpalot FWIW I have seen different numbers but it seems 15 Ravens would manage a gank on a freighter (seen as low as 7 and as high as 30 tossed about).
The question is really how long it takes concord to kill these 15 ravens. 5 kessies is a no-brainer, but 15 ravens? Would concord be able to kill all before they can launch a 2nd wave of torps?
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Humpalot
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Posted - 2006.07.04 23:03:00 -
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Originally by: Aramendel The question is really how long it takes concord to kill these 15 ravens. 5 kessies is a no-brainer, but 15 ravens? Would concord be able to kill all before they can launch a 2nd wave of torps?
I think that is why the number went down from 30 (or so) to 15 (give or take). The idea is CONCORD would be lucky to pop 2-3 Ravens before a 2nd volley. If you consider a third might be had then you might get even lower than 15.
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