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DARKHUNTER
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Posted - 2006.07.02 18:50:00 -
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Edited by: DARKHUNTER on 02/07/2006 18:50:48 Joined: 29 June 2005 United States of America Posts: 312 Posted: 05 June 2006 at 6:09pm | IP removed Hehe it wasn't Monday.
I was this ****ed last night.
Lost a Rook to a gate gank by Chimera that was only really annoying after I thought about it a bit. I'm fighting Chimera because LV was set to nuetral. LV was set to neutral so we could be NAP with CDC and RA. RA NAP is not only useless our guys constantly look for reasons to shoot at them. CDC moved away and are about as useless of a NAP as RA in my opinion. However, since they don't 100% go away we still have to deal with it. JUGGER (PHA) wants to patch up the whole LV and Galactic empire thing with us so we can band together for the Arch Angel invasion. I'm pretty certain he was the reason the LV fleet pulled Chimera out of Curse last night.
Anyway, so here I am getting blown up for two groups I don't like RA/CDC and view as a waste of my time. When I get contacted by the one I do view as having CC related potential JUGGER in PHA. He is ****ed as some of MY guys voided the no fly rule and once again raided his guys in Eastern Curse. He was already smoothing over a 500mil event and so this new one had him totally ****ed. When I told him I couldn't find the kills on our killboard he actually hung up the convo. Well I eventually did find the Eagle kill on our boards and when I contacted him back he had his sh*t together. He posted the convo with me reporting that I had sent the alliance mail telling our guys not to fly there till after the summit. He had the kill mails for both ships and an itemized list of the contents destroyed with item by item values. And that damn Raven was loaded with destroyed T2. On the plus side it means our boyz got some good pirated loot from the stuff that survived. Anyway, he has me/Tyrell dead to rights and its a big bill.
So I start talking to the guys in TS about it. They confirm they did it but have all kinds of unprovable reasons why it should be ok. It was like talking to my teenage daughter about the cellular bill. The flash backs were terrible. Then it hit me according to the kill board these are the best guys we got. IMO a reputation built on piracy to a degree with my stamp of approval on it.
I realize we dance around the piracy issue alot and talk about defense and spies and such. But its just us here in the Tyrell gentlemens room. I know why those guys were there both last night and when they destroyed the mining hulk and you do too. We're just choosing not to see it for what it really is. They got expensive loot from each ship. Its what draws then not only down there but too low sec pirating problems we have had as well. I am 100% certain, other than Mentax and Jake Nobel, that no Tyrell are pirates. But CC are pirates, politically its virtually immpossible to defend.
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DARKHUNTER
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Posted - 2006.07.02 18:50:00 -
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Teken directly from the director section of the Tyrell corp private forums:
Bach Director
Joined: 29 June 2005 United States of America Posts: 312 Posted: 05 June 2006 at 4:26pm | IP Removed That last big draw was me paying off the PHA/IFC Eagle and Raven destroyed by SI Redleg, Tanaka Khan (BGBR) and Alcean Dark (BGBR..former RDST) in eastern curse prior to the summit. 240mil
The 50mil for Dr' Laaq (BGBR) shooting the BOS ships in empire I paid out of my pocket.
I did NOT pay IFC for the 500mil isk HULK destroyed by Kristoffer (BGBR..former RDST) Though talking we didn't have any agreements at the time. This did however, generate the agreement that lead to having to pay for the Eagle and Raven.
The CC was meant to be something bigger than a band of pirates racking up points on some kill board. These SI and BGBR(..former RDST) pilots are the biggest band of non-thinking shoot it to have fun rednecks playing eve. Every single fricking shooting incident thats caused us problems can be traced back to these guys. But hey, they are the top of the kill board so they must be good right?
If I had this all to do again Snipers Inc., Redstorm and a fair portion of BGBR I would vote to stay well away from for CC members. They are simply a pirate mentality that isn't going to change. Bone head moves shooting the wrong guys when flying with CDC, piracy in empire, piracy in curse, not reading announcement, ALWAYS friggin asking me on TS if a blue target is ok to shoot for some obscure reason from days gone by.....basically what ever gives them permission to shoot at something is all they want. If the f**ker is blue..why the hell are you asking ME if its ok to shoot him? Don't they have enough with just the neutral and red guys?
....hehe...sorry for the venting but these guys are driving me nutz and its time they started either A-entering into the political arena themselves....or...B-at least paying they're own bills so they can see what brain dead non-thinking get me on the kill board play actually costs. Next time we make an alliance...ENTRY FEE's in the BILLIONS DAMIT!
I'm not going to post stuff daily to try to drill into these morons heads whose a target and whose not. They need to pay attention. They are online plenty enough to do it. We have a target....IAC and now all of CATCH. Everytime they take our NBSI policy outside of our territory and NOT in Catch we friggin get in trouble. Is it too friggin hard to figure it out?
If your friends with your next door neighbor and go over to his backyard while his cousins over....you don't know his cousin...so hey you pull out a gun and blow him away...why should the neighbor be ****ed? Its not like YOU were friends with the guy.....morons...thats all I got to say...morons. The targets are in friggin Catch...end of rant.
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Tyrrax Thorrk
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Posted - 2006.07.02 19:02:00 -
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Entertaining read, but why are you posting it here ? |
DARKHUNTER
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Posted - 2006.07.02 19:04:00 -
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Edited by: DARKHUNTER on 02/07/2006 19:04:51
Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk Entertaining read, but why are you posting it here ?
Here this may not be of news to you but have a gander:
Raid Director & Admin
It would be interesting to see what Tyrell have to say.
Joined: 11 April 2005 Canada Posts: 419 Posted: 05 June 2006 at 9:33pm | IP removed First of all i wanna say i couldnt give a crap about phantom and ILN or any of those guys. I would take any member of SI or BGBR any day of the week over any of the guys we're currently in negotiations with. The guys we fly with will defend us and this alliance to the last ISK while the phantom guys are just a bunch of useless lumps who shouldnt even be in 0.0.
Now that thats been said, yes i understand its frustrating having to deal with this. But like i said in the CC forums using the standings system will make sure everyone knows who not to shoot at. Going around ganking people IS NOT PIRACY... its something every major alliances does... if we didnt go around ganking people then we're sitting in curse with our thumbs in our asses making piles of isk with no place to spend it.
I figured that doing something "bigger" would have been killing the IAC alliance and setting up our own home in northern catch. Are we not still looking at that? Or has the focused shifted to Rping the we are working for the Arch Angels?
Im so confused right now on whats going on. My goal when I log in is to grief the sh*t out of IAC so corps start leaving one at a time and killing IAC can become easier to do. Whats everyone else doing?
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Velsharoon
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Posted - 2006.07.02 19:07:00 -
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CC and IAC fighting? NO WHEY!
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BlueOrca
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Posted - 2006.07.02 19:08:00 -
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Bach is a cool guy!
what is "23"? |
DARKHUNTER
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Posted - 2006.07.02 19:09:00 -
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Originally by: Velsharoon CC and IAC fighting? NO WHEY!
Yes so we all know they are fighting...that was only posted as a responce to the other poster. My intent is to figure out where Tyrell stands in regards to their other member corps. |
Velsharoon
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Posted - 2006.07.02 19:11:00 -
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Slightly to the left if I was to hazard a guess
Your just wanting to cause problems else it would have been done privatly. Not that im complaining I love strife and other such fun things
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Bach
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Posted - 2006.07.02 19:13:00 -
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The CC boards have been hacked by someone. He is currently posting as Bach and Tyrrian Soulteur and just disrupting as much as he can. Semms to coincide with the Arch Angel ISD event Saturday.
Who ever Darkhunter is he is related to the hacker. Also a character in ASCN that was 6 days old and was to get transfers of 1.5bil from corp accounts.
If you can please ban this guy and his IP.
The posts ar from Tyrell boards but also doctored to fit the hackers bent. Bach
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Lubomir Kratochvil
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Posted - 2006.07.02 19:16:00 -
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Interesting read.
So there's actually a reason behind CC griefing? Here I thought you guys just enjoyed it *that much*
I wonder if CC have noticed that there are more of us than ever, no matter how many griefers they throw at us?
We won't be leaving our home because we lose a few ships a day to a bunch of (now self-confessed) pirates like you.
I enjoy fighting you guys, but please don't start getting delusions of grandeur, it makes you look bad
You also might want to review forum security Today is the tomorrow that you should have feared yesterday. |
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DARKHUNTER
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Posted - 2006.07.02 19:18:00 -
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Originally by: Bach The CC boards have been hacked by someone. He is currently posting as Bach and Tyrrian Soulteur and just disrupting as much as he can. Semms to coincide with the Arch Angel ISD event Saturday.
Who ever Darkhunter is he is related to the hacker. Also a character in ASCN that was 6 days old and was to get transfers of 1.5bil from corp accounts.
If you can please ban this guy and his IP.
The posts ar from Tyrell boards but also doctored to fit the hackers bent. Bach
They are not doctored at all there big guy. Nice try on a spin. As far as I know the whole "hacked this or hacked that" is a bunch of crap since I've been given this by one of your directors. Yeah that's right try to spin it Bach. |
Tyrrax Thorrk
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Posted - 2006.07.02 19:19:00 -
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Shut up Lubo ! FATSO
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WRAITH666
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Posted - 2006.07.02 19:21:00 -
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History repeating itself once again.
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Gabriel Karade
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Posted - 2006.07.02 19:31:00 -
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*me sweeps Lubo under carpet*
We lub you Curse guys, we really do... ----------
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Hoshi
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Posted - 2006.07.02 19:31:00 -
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If you want to cause strife between CC corps you need to do better than that. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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DARKHUNTER
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Posted - 2006.07.02 19:33:00 -
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Originally by: Hoshi If you want to cause strife between CC corps you need to do better than that.
You can listen to whoever you want and take what they say as gold, but if you put a moment of thought to it you just might rise up from your mushroom cave and see the bigger picture. |
Wwhisper
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Posted - 2006.07.02 19:55:00 -
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Edited by: Wwhisper on 02/07/2006 19:55:16 Darkhunter is by far the lowest form of person, as all hackers are. This person busted two forum members passwords to gain access to the Tyrell forum board and tryied to 1. tell people using Tyrian's name not to attend the Arch Angel event as it had been cancelled, however he may be a hacker, but he's not to bright as the event had been ongoing for two hours when he posted it.
2. He then posted a noted asking for money to be sent to an Accendant Fronteir guy. Now he is posting private form info here.
We in Tyrell want to thank the IAC for alerting us to the fact that he is posint messages on the board. It seems this individual is a member of Shinra. We've had our problems with LV but never thought they would stoop this far.
With that said, forum boards are supposed to be a safe place for people to vent their feelings and anyone that would do this sort of thing should be shunned by everyone. As a matter of course, his hacking is being reported to CCP and I'm assuming they will be investigating and taking action as necessary.
In the mean time we ask that the forum mods to pls ban this person from posting any further forum traffic.
Ralph Gibbs Aka Wwhipser ------------------------------- Tactical Smack-Talker |
Valkazm
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Posted - 2006.07.02 19:58:00 -
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This is only something that would unite then disolve .. theese guys know eachother in and out and if it true then its just what it is abit of venting .. over concerns and things that happen daily in an alliance concerns are brought up and handled .. strong willed people and strong minds .. i would say it would rather be bad if it was the oposite way that things that **** you of are not brought up .. And honestly Darkhunter get a hobby then trying to sabotage people in the forums this is a place were people flame eachother daily and not much is taken seriously .. And so is eve a game but putting this on the forums is personal in some way .. overstepping some boundries when taking information from a private forum and posting it i feel sorry for CC if you are indeed a CC member you lack any kind of honour ..
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DARKHUNTER
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Posted - 2006.07.02 20:05:00 -
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Originally by: Wwhisper Edited by: Wwhisper on 02/07/2006 19:55:16 Darkhunter is by far the lowest form of person, as all hackers are. This person busted two forum members passwords to gain access to the Tyrell forum board and tryied to 1. tell people using Tyrian's name not to attend the Arch Angel event as it had been cancelled, however he may be a hacker, but he's not to bright as the event had been ongoing for two hours when he posted it.
2. He then posted a noted asking for money to be sent to an Accendant Fronteir guy. Now he is posting private form info here.
OMG we're still on the whole "hacker" theory. I have been given this information by a RL friend and that stands as fact. I will not confirm nor deny any involvement with LV though I'm sure they are puzzled as to what you're on about. As for reporting "hacking" this is not the place to print that basicaly because you're giving yourself a big black eye by not knowing what you are talking about. You're taking this to a real life level and as sure as I'm typing this right now I'm sure CCP will discover no such incident in their investigation. This is simply your forum spin intending to discredit the information shared herein. Either that or you are forming a conspiracy theory on this level in attempt to have this thread locked before everyone gets a chance to take this information in for what it is.
We in Tyrell want to thank the IAC for alerting us to the fact that he is posint messages on the board. It seems this individual is a member of Shinra. We've had our problems with LV but never thought they would stoop this far.
With that said, forum boards are supposed to be a safe place for people to vent their feelings and anyone that would do this sort of thing should be shunned by everyone. As a matter of course, his hacking is being reported to CCP and I'm assuming they will be investigating and taking action as necessary.
In the mean time we ask that the forum mods to pls ban this person from posting any further forum traffic.
Ralph Gibbs Aka Wwhipser
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Max Teranous
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Posted - 2006.07.02 20:10:00 -
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Originally by: Wwhisper We in Tyrell want to thank the IAC for alerting us to the fact that he is posint messages on the board. It seems this individual is a member of Shinra. We've had our problems with LV but never thought they would stoop this far.
That's a big accusation. Care to back it up with proof?
Max
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Bach
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Posted - 2006.07.02 20:11:00 -
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The only picture we're getting is that you hacked our CC board, our private board, tried to steal a few billion isk and apparently you really don't like Tyrell but your ok with the rest of the CC. (Inside job?)
For those of you reading and looking for an explanation: Piracy is a paramount issue for CC. We're constantly debating the issue, its definition, relation to ROE and our stance against it. The issues with PHA/IFC ships destroyed in they're home space were the source of major and heated discussions. "Grey area piracy" cost us the potential ally of PHA/IFC and I for one wasn't happy about it. As you can tell and as our hacker friend has aired publicaly.
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Wwhisper
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Posted - 2006.07.02 20:17:00 -
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Originally by: DARKHUNTER Edited by: DARKHUNTER on 02/07/2006 20:07:39 OMG we're still on the whole "hacker" theory. I have been given this information by a RL friend and that stands as fact. I will not confirm nor deny any involvement with LV though I'm sure they are puzzled as to what you're on about. As for reporting "hacking" this is not the place to print that basicaly because you're giving yourself a big black eye by not knowing what you are talking about. You're taking this to a real life level and as sure as I'm typing this right now I'm sure CCP will discover no such incident in their investigation. This is simply your forum spin intending to discredit the information shared herein. Either that or you are forming a conspiracy theory on this level in attempt to have this thread locked before everyone gets a chance to take this information in for what it is.
you may have been given this info by a RL friend but it stands that the info you gleemed was hacked. You can say it wasn't all you want, CCP will have the last word pure and simple. We can prove the board was hacked and since you say this info was given by a RL friend implicates you in a crime.
Unlike you, I'm not going to sit and respond to every post. Bottom line you either hacked or know the hacker and the fact that you posted private info makes you as low as a hacker.
However, I tend to think you are in fact the hacker. Good luck, your going to need it. I wont be responding as I don't need to. ------------------------------- Tactical Smack-Talker |
DARKHUNTER
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Posted - 2006.07.02 20:21:00 -
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Originally by: Wwhisper blach blah Quote:
Your text sig says it all. |
Joshua Foiritain
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Posted - 2006.07.02 20:30:00 -
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Its sad to see people have to resort to lame out of game actions like these if they cant win in game... -----
[Coreli Corporation Mainframe] |
DARKHUNTER
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Posted - 2006.07.02 20:36:00 -
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Originally by: Joshua Foiritain Its sad to see people have to resort to lame out of game actions like these if they cant win in game...
I agree completely. The flaw in that is I stand nothing to gain, so the idea of winning or losing is of no consiquence. What is of consiquence is Defamation of Character and Slander whitch has been employed here to defuse their situation. Accusing someone of a crime falls into the pre-mentioned catagories. |
Hoshi
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Posted - 2006.07.02 21:11:00 -
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Originally by: DARKHUNTER
Originally by: Hoshi If you want to cause strife between CC corps you need to do better than that.
You can listen to whoever you want and take what they say as gold, but if you put a moment of thought to it you just might rise up from your mushroom cave and see the bigger picture.
Want to sell a clue, if you want to cause strife you need to post something secret, not something that is common knowledge to most CC members. CC is a very open organisation where people vent their problems openly.
This thread is making you look much worse than Bach, hacking is a serious offence. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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Logan Williams
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Posted - 2006.07.02 22:04:00 -
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I always disliked Wwhisper and Bach before I knew them. When I joined CC I made it a point to talk to and listen to as many of the CC leadership as possible, not just these two.
The personalities of that alliance, though they may not be blue to me now, earned my respect and trust. I trust them to say what they mean and to do what they say. ESPECIALLY on something like this......if Bach says it was hacked........it was hacked, end of story.
The trickery of using fake tells has been around since the old Multi-User-Dungeon days. Please....if you want to start trouble...be original.
Originally by: Deja Thoris
I find a BE rep criticizing fighting styles to be the crowning pinnacle of irony.
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IamBen
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Posted - 2006.07.02 22:11:00 -
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Posting internal stuff on pub forum is a big no no. Mods lock and delete please.
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Wwhisper
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Posted - 2006.07.02 22:24:00 -
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My apologies to Shinra, I misunderstood something that was said on TS. No one in Tyrell or CC belives it was Shinra. According to all those guys, we have differences, but they say Shinra or LV would not stoop to something this low.
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Vegas
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Posted - 2006.07.02 22:25:00 -
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Originally by: DARKHUNTER
Originally by: Joshua Foiritain Its sad to see people have to resort to lame out of game actions like these if they cant win in game...
I agree completely. The flaw in that is I stand nothing to gain, so the idea of winning or losing is of no consiquence. What is of consiquence is Defamation of Character and Slander whitch has been employed here to defuse their situation. Accusing someone of a crime falls into the pre-mentioned catagories.
If you gain nothing from this then post with your main and dont be a Pus*y!!
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