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eug3nio Anninen
Dark Midgard
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Posted - 2014.07.24 10:57:00 -
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dudes ,pls don't blame me ,
but i AFAIK if valkire will not be " a real part " of eveonline , ( as you enter the captain quarter , you gotta be able to jump in your fighter too ) with the release of STARCITIZEN , Eve will become obsolete in zero-time.....
CCP won't release valkire till the 2015 summer ( iheard ) , i'm afraid eve-universe is to become more and more empty.....
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eug3nio Anninen
Dark Midgard
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Posted - 2014.07.24 10:57:57 -
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dudes ,pls don't blame me ,
but i AFAIK if valkire will not be " a real part " of eveonline , ( as you enter the captain quarter , you gotta be able to jump in your fighter too ) with the release of STARCITIZEN , Eve will become obsolete in zero-time.....
CCP won't release valkire till the 2015 summer ( iheard ) , i'm afraid eve-universe is to become more and more empty.....
e**ug3n[u]i**o[/u]
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Hona Chaginai
Bangkok Body Snatchers Galactic Skyfleet Empire
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Posted - 2014.07.27 20:33:00 -
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I thought we had enough Star Citizen will Kill Eve threads... Honestly it won't, it just won't. Also your thread doesn't really seem to have a point other than "Eve will die" |
Hona Chaginai
Bangkok Body Snatchers
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Posted - 2014.07.27 20:33:44 -
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I thought we had enough Star Citizen will Kill Eve threads... Honestly it won't, it just won't. Also your thread doesn't really seem to have a point other than "Eve will die" |
Altirius Saldiaro
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.07.28 20:18:00 -
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Well if in the EVE universe, I have to play 3 separate games to get the experience that SC will have in 1 game, I'll end up playing more SC than any of the 3 EVE games.
Now, if EVE Online carriers required actual players to fly it's fighters in cockpit view in real time on tranquility, then I would stick with EVE. |
Altirius Saldiaro
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.07.28 20:18:24 -
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Well if in the EVE universe, I have to play 3 separate games to get the experience that SC will have in 1 game, I'll end up playing more SC than any of the 3 EVE games.
Now, if EVE Online carriers required actual players to fly it's fighters in cockpit view in real time on tranquility, then I would stick with EVE. |
eug3nio Anninen
Dark Midgard
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Posted - 2014.07.30 13:02:00 -
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Altirius Saldiaro wrote:Well if in the EVE universe, I have to play 3 separate games to get the experience that SC will have in 1 game, I'll end up playing more SC than any of the 3 EVE games.
Now, if EVE Online carriers required actual players to fly it's fighters in cockpit view in real time on tranquility, then I would stick with EVE.
that's my thoght too...... and i'm not saying eve will die , but we really need as first thing that valkyre , eve and legion become an unique game , i would appriciate that much more then 1000 new ( usefull/usless) expansion , i mean what's the matter to have supercapital ships without the sensation of hugeness gave it by the cockpit view?
where's the matter to have a captain quarter if i can't board my ship and walk it from there??
i do not want to appear as some that blame EVE , don't get me wrong as Hona Changinai does , i love this game i just don't get why all this work for expansions wich are no doubt cool , but somehow useless , cause the core of what is missing , is somewhere else.
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eug3nio Anninen
Dark Midgard
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Posted - 2014.07.30 13:02:28 -
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Altirius Saldiaro wrote:Well if in the EVE universe, I have to play 3 separate games to get the experience that SC will have in 1 game, I'll end up playing more SC than any of the 3 EVE games.
Now, if EVE Online carriers required actual players to fly it's fighters in cockpit view in real time on tranquility, then I would stick with EVE.
that's my thoght too...... and i'm not saying eve will die , but we really need as first thing that valkyre , eve and legion become an unique game , i would appriciate that much more then 1000 new ( usefull/usless) expansion , i mean what's the matter to have supercapital ships without the sensation of hugeness gave it by the cockpit view?
where's the matter to have a captain quarter if i can't board my ship and walk it from there??
i do not want to appear as some that blame EVE , don't get me wrong as Hona Changinai does , i love this game i just don't get why all this work for expansions wich are no doubt cool , but somehow useless , cause the core of what is missing , is somewhere else.
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DaReaper
Net 7 The Last Brigade
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Posted - 2014.08.03 18:05:00 -
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Sc is vapor ware, it will not kill eve. even if it comes out, it will be nothing at all like eve or valk or legion. They will both operate fine, EvE will lose some ppl, but SC won;t kill it. But hey, if you want to toss another million at SC to get another fish for your auarium, be my guest. In a room full of dumb blondes, EvE is the smart red head on the other side of the room.-á Lots of men like dumb blondes, and not everyone will like the smart red head, but she doesn;t need to change to be a dumb blonde.-á She is perfect how she is.-á Thats EvE vs other mmo's.-á You either like the red head, or you don't. |
DaReaper
Net 7
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Posted - 2014.08.03 18:05:11 -
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Sc is vapor ware, it will not kill eve. even if it comes out, it will be nothing at all like eve or valk or legion. They will both operate fine, EvE will lose some ppl, but SC won;t kill it. But hey, if you want to toss another million at SC to get another fish for your auarium, be my guest.
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Arla Sarain
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Posted - 2014.08.04 11:52:00 -
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I bet elite: dangerous is a bigger threat to EVE than SC is.
SC is just overhyped, but elite is going to have some similar mechanics to EVE. |
Arla Sarain
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Posted - 2014.08.04 11:52:06 -
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I bet elite: dangerous is a bigger threat to EVE than SC is.
SC is just overhyped, but elite is going to have some similar mechanics to EVE. |
Litair
Nleesh
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Posted - 2014.08.04 20:44:00 -
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I wouldn't worry about SC taking players from EVE, because I don't really think people play EVE for the spaceships and action packed gameplay as such anyways, it's rather because it's the only MMO that endorses and encourages their inner desire and urge to **** on other people while scamming them for every penny they have and in general behave like something they'd never be allowed to in real life. |
Litair
Nleesh
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Posted - 2014.08.04 20:44:03 -
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I wouldn't worry about SC taking players from EVE, because I don't really think people play EVE for the spaceships and action packed gameplay as such anyways, it's rather because it's the only MMO that endorses and encourages their inner desire and urge to **** on other people while scamming them for every penny they have and in general behave like something they'd never be allowed to in real life. |
Jdestars
Stars Research systems Incorporation
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Posted - 2014.09.22 14:27:00 -
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im testing stars Citizen .. . not same game than Eve-online and not enough feature in test to say that this game will be the gravedigger of eveonline .
I shall like that Eve-Dust-Valkyrie forms only the same playable game on the same platform, even if it means having specialized persons who allow to reach that has a part of the game
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Jdestars
Stars Research systems Incorporation
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Posted - 2014.09.22 14:27:39 -
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im testing stars Citizen .. . not same game than Eve-online and not enough feature in test to say that this game will be the gravedigger of eveonline .
I shall like that Eve-Dust-Valkyrie forms only the same playable game on the same platform, even if it means having specialized persons who allow to reach that has a part of the game
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XeX Znndstrup
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.09.24 19:57:00 -
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Hi all,
There is in fact no subject today. Eve online is a reality that has been lasting for more than ten years. Mechanics, code, balancing of gameplay is running.
I have nothing against Star Citizen because i don't know this game. Why ? Because it's a project. And developers has everything to do and the most difficult is coming.
Ok. I am like everyone here. I think it would be a terrific mistake to do a Eve Valkyrie not linked with Eve. CCP will have to do it at some moments. It's sure.
It waqs a mistake to make Dust 514 on PS3. And now it appears CCP is investing in a PC "Dust 2".
Be patient. It is always easier to speak about what you could propose rather than showing what you did.
And CCP is perfectionist. It takes time to make perfect thing. Ten years and you can see how huge is the content now. Let them the time they took to realize what we asked for some years before. French support... and it seems to be a unbelievable dream some time ago. |
XeX Znndstrup
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.09.24 19:57:33 -
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Hi all,
There is in fact no subject today. Eve online is a reality that has been lasting for more than ten years. Mechanics, code, balancing of gameplay are running.
I have nothing against Star Citizen because i don't know this game. Why ? Because it's a project. And developers has everything to do and the most difficult is coming.
Star Citizen claimed to be a starshooter. Eve is much more. SC develops racing ships... each one the price of a one year licence for Eve. An expensive dream front of a true reality.
Ok. I am like everyone here. I think it would be a terrific mistake to do a Eve Valkyrie not linked with Eve. CCP will have to do it at some moments. It's sure.
It was a mistake to make Dust 514 on PS3. And now it appears CCP is investing in a PC "Dust 2".
Be patient. It is always easier to speak about what you could propose rather than showing what you did.
And CCP is perfectionist. It takes time to make perfect thing. Ten years and you can see how huge is the content now. Let them the time they took to realize what we asked for some years before. French support... and it seemed to be a unbelievable dream some time ago.
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Gerald Mardiska
The Ammatar Auxillaries of Tidacha Galactic Skyfleet Empire
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Posted - 2014.10.02 04:42:00 -
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Altirius Saldiaro wrote:Well if in the EVE universe, I have to play 3 separate games to get the experience that SC will have in 1 game, I'll end up playing more SC than any of the 3 EVE games.
Now, if EVE Online carriers required actual players to fly it's fighters in cockpit view in real time on tranquility, then I would stick with EVE. ''IMO this is the way it should be anyway becasue Friggan Bigpoint, imo again, the worst game developer made a carrier for its game BSGO that launched player controlled fighters so just as some inspiration eve should be the same way...i mean why not? |
Gerald Mardiska
Black Water Oasis
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Posted - 2014.10.02 04:42:27 -
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Altirius Saldiaro wrote:Well if in the EVE universe, I have to play 3 separate games to get the experience that SC will have in 1 game, I'll end up playing more SC than any of the 3 EVE games.
Now, if EVE Online carriers required actual players to fly it's fighters in cockpit view in real time on tranquility, then I would stick with EVE. ''IMO this is the way it should be anyway becasue Friggan Bigpoint, imo again, the worst game developer made a carrier for its game BSGO that launched player controlled fighters so just as some inspiration eve should be the same way...i mean why not? |
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DaReaper
Net 7 The Last Brigade
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Posted - 2014.10.02 17:43:00 -
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Altirius Saldiaro wrote:Well if in the EVE universe, I have to play 3 separate games to get the experience that SC will have in 1 game, I'll end up playing more SC than any of the 3 EVE games.
Now, if EVE Online carriers required actual players to fly it's fighters in cockpit view in real time on tranquility, then I would stick with EVE.
I think it will honestly be better to have Valk and legion be games you play while you wait for something to happen in eve. For example, you get on your alliance TS and hear they are fleeting up in an hour, so be ready. You are already in the staging system, already have the ship you need, but you don't want to ship spin. So you can keep TS on, and jump into valk and give it a go for like 20 min. Or have a corp match in legion until the eve FC gives the green light.
If both games, are interesting and good, this will attract new players to try eve, Then they can later do a combination and now new eden has a ton more fresh blood. I would rather they learn from the mistakes of WoD and Dust, and make games that are good alone, without the gimmick of being connected to eve, cause lets face it, that's what it was in dust.
SC right now has two separate games, they claim that they will launch one that ties it all together, and this is a big claim. We have no real idea how it will all work or even if it will. And I would rather play Valk and or legion sooner and give ccp more money, then wait while they try to figure out how best to get the tie in and different game aspects to work. OMG Comet Mining idea!!! https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=331766 |
DaReaper
Net 7
1440
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Posted - 2014.10.02 17:43:25 -
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Altirius Saldiaro wrote:Well if in the EVE universe, I have to play 3 separate games to get the experience that SC will have in 1 game, I'll end up playing more SC than any of the 3 EVE games.
Now, if EVE Online carriers required actual players to fly it's fighters in cockpit view in real time on tranquility, then I would stick with EVE.
I think it will honestly be better to have Valk and legion be games you play while you wait for something to happen in eve. For example, you get on your alliance TS and hear they are fleeting up in an hour, so be ready. You are already in the staging system, already have the ship you need, but you don't want to ship spin. So you can keep TS on, and jump into valk and give it a go for like 20 min. Or have a corp match in legion until the eve FC gives the green light.
If both games, are interesting and good, this will attract new players to try eve, Then they can later do a combination and now new eden has a ton more fresh blood. I would rather they learn from the mistakes of WoD and Dust, and make games that are good alone, without the gimmick of being connected to eve, cause lets face it, that's what it was in dust.
SC right now has two separate games, they claim that they will launch one that ties it all together, and this is a big claim. We have no real idea how it will all work or even if it will. And I would rather play Valk and or legion sooner and give ccp more money, then wait while they try to figure out how best to get the tie in and different game aspects to work.
OMG Comet Mining idea!!! Comet Mining!
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Opertone
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
315
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Posted - 2014.12.14 19:52:09 -
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Star wars will die because of Super Mario
Unless you can play Super Mario and Sonic in one world, the universe will collapse
This is nonsense !
We've had plenty of awesome games released since 2003. But I fail to see how World of Warcraft killed EvE, and Elderscrolls online did not kill EvE either.
Eve appeals to a certain audience which is mostly above 18 years of age, up through to 44 years +. So to say literate intelligent people do appreciate eve, more often than not education and occupation plays a role too.
Eve is hardcore and not intense.
Intense games require hand-eye coordination and fast thinking, like in First Person Shooter and Real-Time -Strategies.
What sort of game EvE Valkyrie is going to be remains a mystery. FPS shooters have evolved a lot, but the rewarding aspect is the 'spinal cord press left mouse button' reflex perfection and some minor psychological pressure and motion prediction over the opponents.
RTS offer in depth analysis of opponents brain wave and working out a plan that crushes someone's other thought and willpower within limited time frame.
So far is have seen very linear gun firing. Early Wing Commander games were this much exciting, approach, shoot, maneuver, shoot, aim, shoot.
X tension series are an improvement, as they factor in economics, exploration and interaction with the AI driven world.
Money and purchasing aspect often adds a lot of value to plain shooters, such as Counter Strike, Hitman. On the other hand Half-Life and Quake rely on story telling and out-world environment.
What is Valkyrie anyway?
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Paynus Maiassus
Capital Munitions
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Posted - 2015.01.08 22:14:35 -
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Meh, you have to wait until SC comes out to see anything. Elite proved that. Yeah Elite is better than Eve at everything that Elite does, but Eve is better at what Eve does. Elite won't be any serious problem for Eve at all and nobody could have guessed as to why. It isn't about mining or supercaps lacking a counter or third person view or boring gate travel. It's nothing to do with gameplay at all. Elite won't compete with Eve because Elite isn't an MMO. It's highly instanced and coalitions, politics, single shard shared world just don't exist there. You can't even guarantee you're going to wind up in the same instance as your friends. It's meant to be a solo game that you play solo with a bunch of other people playing solo. You can't even play together.
That's just an example of how all worrying people did about Elite turned out to be totally irrelevant. People were talking forever about whether mining would be cooler on Elite or Eve and whether that would cause people to switch games.
When SC comes out it will have its own style and accent concerning how everything comes together to create a certain experience. What that experience will be will be unknown until the game comes out, or at least start to via beta releases and all.
The release of Elite should have taught us all to shut the hell up about Star Citizen. So let's shut the hell up about Star Citizen please. |
DaReaper
Net 7
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Posted - 2015.01.09 22:05:42 -
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Actually it seems that eve numbers have increased wen elite came out.. so I don't think there is anything to worry about.
OMG Comet Mining idea!!! Comet Mining!
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RAVENSOME
Universal Freelance CONSORTIUM UNIVERSALIS
10
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Posted - 2015.01.15 22:37:09 -
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Altirius Saldiaro wrote: i mean what's the matter to have supercapital ships without the sensation of hugeness gave it by the cockpit view?
where's the matter to have a captain quarter if i can't board my ship and walk it from there??
i just don't get why all this work for expansions wich are no doubt cool , but somehow useless , cause the core of what is missing , is somewhere else.
This.
You got the point
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RAVENSOME
Universal Freelance CONSORTIUM UNIVERSALIS
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Posted - 2015.01.15 22:41:30 -
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DaReaper wrote:Actually it seems that eve numbers have increased wen elite came out.. so I don't think there is anything to worry about.
I disagree, you are comparing a game with years of development with a fairly new one. Wait to see the development of ED first.
Eve wont die for sure, but PC gamers will have more options to choose from (considering SC and no man's sky) and I expect that Eve players number wont grow as they did in the past. |
Solops Crendraven
Solops Inc
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Posted - 2015.01.27 00:34:00 -
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DaReaper wrote:Altirius Saldiaro wrote:Well if in the EVE universe, I have to play 3 separate games to get the experience that SC will have in 1 game, I'll end up playing more SC than any of the 3 EVE games.
Now, if EVE Online carriers required actual players to fly it's fighters in cockpit view in real time on tranquility, then I would stick with EVE. I think it will honestly be better to have Valk and legion be games you play while you wait for something to happen in eve. For example, you get on your alliance TS and hear they are fleeting up in an hour, so be ready. You are already in the staging system, already have the ship you need, but you don't want to ship spin. So you can keep TS on, and jump into valk and give it a go for like 20 min. Or have a corp match in legion until the eve FC gives the green light. If both games, are interesting and good, this will attract new players to try eve, Then they can later do a combination and now new eden has a ton more fresh blood. I would rather they learn from the mistakes of WoD and Dust, and make games that are good alone, without the gimmick of being connected to eve, cause lets face it, that's what it was in dust. SC right now has two separate games, they claim that they will launch one that ties it all together, and this is a big claim. We have no real idea how it will all work or even if it will. And I would rather play Valk and or legion sooner and give ccp more money, then wait while they try to figure out how best to get the tie in and different game aspects to work. This would be a Smart move! If CCP Does it is another Question.
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Archimedes Padecain
Blackout Industries Blackout Operations
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Posted - 2015.02.13 18:23:39 -
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Honestly more space games, like SC and Elite Dangerous will actually help Eve online. I bought and started playing elite dangerous and many people that play that game also plays eve online. I recently started playing eve online because of elite dangerous. I enjoy playing elite but its completely different than eve. I'm looking forward to Valkyrie because it looks like the same style of game play elite dangerous is. I do hope for a FPS game to come out in the future since i also enjoy those games too. |
evedawn
Omnipresent Sovereign 7 Corp
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Posted - 2015.03.13 22:14:29 -
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you forget SC is hugely expensive! I wont be going there! |
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