Posted - 2003.07.30 19:45:00 - [8]

i think people forget that we are paying for a service here.

if you were at a restaurant and they told you your food would be ready in an hour then 15 minutes after the hour they told you it would instead take an additional hour AND THEN they don't bring your meal out for another two hours without telling you, something would be seriously wrong.

now image that restaurant has 5000 people in it.

we are the customers here. we are paying for a service. we have every right to question what is going on. now granted, isk refunds for missed productivity and asking for some sort of public appology that all the devs signed is just plain silly. however, a dev CAN take 35 seconds out of their busy schedule and make a small post on the devblog letting the paying customers know what is going on.

i think that is all anybody is really asking for.

*eve is dying*

Oh, and in before the guys who says we need to start pandering to carebears to save the game from it's decade long death spiral.

What a long, strange trip it's been?

Or some other platitude suitable to that, anyway.

Oh, and in before the guys who says we need to start pandering to carebears to save the game from it's decade long death spiral.

Eve is dying for me each day I can't get a belt. I used to do ice mining during the week semi afk due to commitments however helped me to make isk, but now it seems I can't get to any ice belts in my time zone. If I'm lucky I get one ice belt a week that i have to really travel for. I thought ice was going to be in all time zones and respawn every 4 hours, well it doesn't.

Unfortunately everynight during this week, I log in, see no ice belt then log out and play something else. A few nights I log in to check after an hour or so just in case there is ice only to fine, nada.

This is killing the game for me, I don't say EVE is dying I say, CCP are killing EVE for the players. One bad decision after another.

*looks suspiciously around for gully*

Well look what i have here that is relevant and totally not the work of someone else.......definitely not gully.

What caused the 07/2010 spike? The 18 month Walking in Stations debacle?

What caused the 07/2010 spike? The 18 month Walking in Stations debacle?

... celebrates "EVE is Dying" day by nailing another clone to the "Tree of Woe"...

ask Chribba or Gully.
id just be taking educated guesses and in an unprecedented move for GD will not be presenting my (possibly) misinformed opinion as fact.

You called?

I have no idea, I've been playing for just an year a couple of days ago... come to think of it, Happy Birthday Gully, too!

Anyway, people that know better than me debated the data in that thread.

On a side note, I can't wait till this month is over to add it to the Death-o-meter! I predict a big spike... Repent, sinful forum people, the end of the world is near!

Can the death-o-meter be annotated with significant expansions/bugs/patches/events/bad decisions from the spiked periods? I recognize a few but hardly all. Ones before RMR are before my time.

Original Article: http://nosygamer.blogspot.ie/2014/07/happy-eve-is-dying-day.html

Shameless Reposting is below! (For anyone who cant click the above link :P)



One of the recurring themes in EVE Online is that "EVE is dying." We see it today with the declining ACU number. We saw it a few years ago during the Summer of Rage. Actually, we hear someone bring up the idea all the time. But how long has EVE been dying?

The answer may surprise people. Chribba did a search of the forums and discovered the first mention of "EVE is dying" was posted by Madox on 30 July 2003:

That's right. The players began proclaiming that EVE is dying 11 years ago today. Apparently EVE is afflicted with a long, lingering, illness.
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-rQXJ7Y7r3Xg/U9hIMGUYPcI/AAAAAAAABUo/Vi4LURooI7w/s1600/First+EVE+Is+Dying+Post.png

Same as the learning curve for an EVE player trying WoW PVP :)

Copy same setup everyone else has and roll face on keyboard macros.

who told you our at setup!?

That sounds less like Eve dying and more like you killing Eve. Ice mining, even only "semi"-AFK is no way to go through life, son. CCP needs to rebuild the entire mining aspect of the game in its entirety.

What a long, strange trip it's been?

Or some other platitude suitable to that, anyway.

Oh, and in before the guys who says we need to start pandering to carebears to save the game from it's decade long death spiral.

Eve is dying for me each day I can't get a belt. I used to do ice mining during the week semi afk due to commitments however helped me to make isk, but now it seems I can't get to any ice belts in my time zone. If I'm lucky I get one ice belt a week that i have to really travel for. I thought ice was going to be in all time zones and respawn every 4 hours, well it doesn't.

Unfortunately everynight during this week, I log in, see no ice belt then log out and play something else. A few nights I log in to check after an hour or so just in case there is ice only to fine, nada.

This is killing the game for me, I don't say EVE is dying I say, CCP are killing EVE for the players. One bad decision after another.

Stuff

Let it go man, WiS is not happening. ISD locked your other thread containing the same post for a reason.

I'm genuinely surprised it took that long

Pan (community manager back in 2003) was calling loads of people "Chicken Little" on the forums in June 2003 - I think that was when m0o blocked Mara-Passari & there were riots on the forums :D

It really is dying.

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=5009117#post5009117


After closing down so many offices, losing quality staff and multiple failed projects, record low numbers, I can only imagine that a moron would claim everything is fine.


EVE had the chance to make their game truly great. We could have had DUST and Valkyrie integrated into EVE in a meaningful way by now. Instead they squandered their profits on ****** side projects with only money in mind.

Yes, I know. For Basically restarting this thread. Didn't you read the ISD post? Anywayyyyyzzzz... It needs to happen. Regardless of whether it is or not. 'Cuz if it doesn't, we won't have these forums in five years. Other than that, I know that I am just WiSsing in the wind.

The problem with WIS for me is what is the point?

Sure it may of looked great but where is the game play, what is the goal?

The irony of course being that while there are hundreds of eve is dying threads, there are no eve is thriving threads.

WoW players see Eve's learning curve like an ad for Step It Up: All In?

Which carebears? The non risk taking null bears or the more exposed to risk hi sec bears? I get confused.

That sounds less like Eve dying and more like you killing Eve. Ice mining, even only "semi"-AFK is no way to go through life, son. CCP needs to rebuild the entire mining aspect of the game in its entirety.

You gotta admit, he has a point.