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Robert Sawyer
NERV Reborn Independent Stars Allied Forces
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Posted - 2014.08.04 22:16:00 -
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Ever since I've heard of EVE, the most terrifying tale is that of Goonswarm. After looking up their history, they had two Great Wars with an alliance called Band of Brothers, which was defeated. After that, CFC was born. They seem to have their roots in the Something Awful forums. I've paid a visit there and no post seems to make sense. All their content seems to be primarily composed of stupidity, racism and homophobia. Their fleet is also made out of reckless players that have no moral qualities whatsoever. And now, I'm telling you, CFC: do you really want your alliance to be that low? An alliance represented by trolls and the lowest scum the Internet has seen? You are better than that! Now, I want to initiate a lil' poll. Who disagrees with Goonswarm and who doesn't?
*Rant time over, question time
1) How does Goonswarm maintain influential control over the entire game? 2) What drives them to destroy the game? 3) Why are they unstoppable? 4) Why can't all the powerful alliances team up and end Goonswarm once and for all? 5) How does one kill a Goon? "And when, at last, the moment is yours, that agony will become your greatest triumph." |
Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
5660
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Posted - 2014.08.04 22:17:00 -
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This'll fun until the lock.
Mr Epeen There are 86,400 seconds in a day. You just saved one of them by typing 'u' instead of 'you'.-á Congratulations, dumbass! |
Scipio Artelius
The Vendunari End of Life
2479
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Posted - 2014.08.04 22:18:00 -
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Popcorn anyone?
(I can't do better than the popcorn gif in Sibyyl's signature, so I won't even try). Come Win At Eve - Join The Vendunari
. -á<- Argue this, not this ->-á( -í-¦ -£-û -í-¦) |
Brock Nelson
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Posted - 2014.08.04 22:18:00 -
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Quote:22. Post constructively.
Negative feedback can be very useful to further improve EVE Online provided that it is presented in a civil and factual manner. All users are encouraged to honestly express their feelings regarding EVE Online and how it can be improved. Posts that are non-constructive, insulting or in breach of the rules will be deleted regardless of how valid the ideas behind them may be. Users are also reminded that posting with a lack of content also constitutes non-constructive posting.
Thread closed. Signature removed, CCP Phantom |
Robert Sawyer
NERV Reborn Independent Stars Allied Forces
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Posted - 2014.08.04 22:20:00 -
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It was fun whilst it lasted! "And when, at last, the moment is yours, that agony will become your greatest triumph." |
Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
5660
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Posted - 2014.08.04 22:22:00 -
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Brock Nelson wrote: Thread closed.
Lies!
Mr Epeen
There are 86,400 seconds in a day. You just saved one of them by typing 'u' instead of 'you'.-á Congratulations, dumbass! |
Paranoid Loyd
1131
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Posted - 2014.08.04 22:24:00 -
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Not enough Grr, please reformat "PvE in EVE is a trap to turn you into PvP content, don't confuse it for actual gameplay." Lipbite |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
23666
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Posted - 2014.08.04 22:24:00 -
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1. They don't. 2. Nothing. 3. They're not. 4. Why would they? 5. Shoot them. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: Newbie skillplan 2.2. |
Sibyyl
Gallente Federation
4827
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Posted - 2014.08.04 22:27:00 -
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Robert Sawyer wrote:2) What drives them to destroy the game?
Some out of context quoting fun:
CCP Falcon wrote:Some men just want to watch the world burn.
The Muppets: P+¦pc++rn (thanks Ria!) "So.. youre saying you cant create content.... because other people are out... creating content?" --United Arab Emirates |
Klandi
Consortium of stella Technologies
193
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Posted - 2014.08.04 22:28:00 -
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Pretty much agree with Tippia there - (a requirement of posting on GD I'm afraid.)
Goons - have a good grip on the game mechanics and exploit them - there ... said it.
They can buy you several times over and not feel it - and the only way I think of getting rid of them is to shut down Eve. I am aware of my own ignorance and have checked my emotional quotient - thanks for asking |
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Dread Elvis
Nanna Sandwich Trading
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Posted - 2014.08.04 22:36:00 -
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So I actually will try and answer without controversy.
So background, my corp at the time (yes this is an alt) was in Goonswarm just before the moved to null. I loved it but my corpmates found the "Something Awefull-ness style of community hard to adapt to. So we left mostly because ot that culture. Sad choice in my opinion.
Some quick observations, the goons attracted some of the smartest eve players around. So they often were the best at maximizing the pay offs for game mechanics. Over time they seemed to have the most effective tactics. They kept it fun for their members. They embrace the "evil" part of the game which makes them perfect for Eve. They have had some amazing success at the "meta" of Eve.
They net of it all is they are huge, own enough wealth producing wealth to have amassed a huge force. They are pretty much here to stay unless somehow they melt down on their own.
So if you want to play Eve, welcome to the goon's sandbox. They used smarts and numbers to build and kick down any sort of sand castle they want. Good thing? Bad thing? You have to decide for yourself but it can make things "ineresting" around the 'verse'.
To the specific questions:
1) How does Goonswarm maintain influential control over the entire game? Numbers, ownership of huge wealth building pieces of space, smart people in the right places of their org.
2) What drives them to destroy the game? They started out claiming they wanted to ruin the game, they are well past the and not are more of "they are the game".
3) Why are they unstoppable? See "numbers, wealth, smart people where it matters and they keep it fun for the members".
4) Why can't all the powerful alliances team up and end Goonswarm once and for all? If you could herd all those cats and keep them focused you could. Everyone keeps waiting for that leader that could do that.
5) How does one kill a Goon? Target their ship with whatever your favorite weapons are and keep shooting. If you are better at that than them they pop just like the rest of us. In fact my primary corp had a few of their corpses on display. Put your mind to it most anyone can be made a corpscicle.
Good luck!!
TCB Baby! |
Rowells
Unknown Soldiers Fidelas Constans
1127
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Posted - 2014.08.04 22:37:00 -
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grrrrrrrrRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR GOOOOOOOOOOOONS! |
RoAnnon
Eternity INC. Goonswarm Federation
406
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Posted - 2014.08.04 22:41:00 -
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Thread needs more Pssssssssshhhhhhhhh So, you're a bounty hunter. No, that ain't it at all. Then what are you? I'm a bounty hunter. |
Lykouleon
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1426
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Posted - 2014.08.04 22:43:00 -
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And on the 8th Day, the Lord came down and created the Search function. And on that day, the people were like "naw man, we don't want to look up the other hundreds of threads that contain the exact same questions and provide the exact same answers or even bother to look at google to find things on a publicly view-able wiki run by some despicable, fedora-wearing leader of neckbeards with an obsession with the tilde key. Nah dude, we cool, we chill, #420blazeit."
And the Lord then held his head and wondered why he even bothered with this in the first place and scrapped the 8th day. And the people rejoiced. Lykouleon > CYNO ME CLOSER so I can hit them with my sword |
Benny Ohu
Chaotic Tranquility
3712
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Posted - 2014.08.04 22:45:00 -
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Robert Sawyer wrote:1) How does Goonswarm maintain influential control over the entire game? 2) What drives them to destroy the game? 3) Why are they unstoppable? 4) Why can't all the powerful alliances team up and end Goonswarm once and for all? 5) How does one kill a Goon? - they don't - they're not trying to - they're not - who cares? - you'd need to rally all of the miners, missioners and incursion runners in highsec |
Gallowmere Rorschach
Enlightened Industries Goonswarm Federation
553
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Posted - 2014.08.04 22:48:00 -
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Let me see if I can help you out with these, given my short time as a member of the most prestigious and upstanding of Eve Coalitions.
1) How does Goonswarm maintain influential control over the entire game? We (they) don't. Most of what you see to the contrary will likely be spewed from fearmongering folk, who also have a severe case of envy. Even the mighty Gevlon finally admitted that the only reason he hates Goons, is because he can't be one.
2) What drives them to destroy the game? Nothing. Again, this is generally fearmongers bringing up "old ****". Most of us actually appear to enjoy this terrible ass game, and destroying it would go against our own interests.
3) Why are they unstoppable? We aren't. It's just that, as Progodlegend put it, most of Eve are a bunch of whiners who just can't seem to sack up, organize, and take on the CFC (paraphrasing a bit).
4) Why can't all the powerful alliances team up and end Goonswarm once and for all? Because Goons transcend Eve. They were born elsewhere, brought their culture here, and picked up a lot of pubbies along the way who happen to enjoy being a part of them (I am in this group). Hell, I'd probably be forced to join SA, if I ever lost access to the Goonfleet forums. Goons have been "killed" before. And they came right back and stomped a mudhole in the asses of all responsible. It would happen again.
5) How does one kill a Goon? Turrets. |
Dread Elvis
Nanna Sandwich Trading
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Posted - 2014.08.04 22:49:00 -
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I almost forgot, I have great connections with the goon leadership. The best way to know your answers is to join them. I can make that happen for half what they normally charge! $500 million to me and I'll get all your stuff out to null and a full membership!
TCB! |
Kharaxus
Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic
54
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Posted - 2014.08.04 22:51:00 -
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5) Fly to VFK and start shooting pods and cynos. When that gets boring start targeting their ratting ships. I personally accidentally killed one of their reapers, while just flying around down there in a condor - good clean fun.
Ever heard of Harry Forever? Look him up ingame, and check out his zkillboard. He has made a career out of killing Goonies. |
Rhes
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1021
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Posted - 2014.08.04 23:04:00 -
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Goons ruin everything. EVE is a game about spaceships and there's an enormous amount of work to do on the in-space gameplay before players (or developers) are ready to sacrifice it for a totally new type of gameplay - CCP Rise |
45thtiger 0109
AL3XAND3R.
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Posted - 2014.08.04 23:10:00 -
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Mr Epeen wrote:This'll fun until the lock. Mr Epeen
Until the Goonswarm lock lol This Thread is Locked By CCP & ISD
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Nevyn Auscent
Broke Sauce
1458
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Posted - 2014.08.04 23:12:00 -
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To answer pretty much all the points. It's because the Goons play the metagame, not the game. Meaning they use spies that spend five years being good alliance mates, fine leaders, skilled FC's, then suddenly if the goons decide you are about to actually achieve a real victory against them they turn on you. You know your current best friend in game, yea, odds are :). Unless you believe that it was a random mistake that the goons just happened to have their entire supercap fleet ready to go for B-R, that massive thefts & disbandings have happened over the years all the way back to BOB whenever anyone fights the goons on a scale to threaten the goons in game.
All credit to them for playing the metagame well though. But the reality is when someone plays the metagame to win instead of the game, things get dirty. And players get hurt, not just characters. |
Gallowmere Rorschach
Enlightened Industries Goonswarm Federation
555
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Posted - 2014.08.04 23:18:00 -
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Nevyn Auscent wrote:All credit to them for playing the metagame well though. But the reality is when someone plays the metagame to win instead of the game, things get dirty. And players get hurt, not just characters. That last part reminded me of this: Sad Face |
James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
10916
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Posted - 2014.08.04 23:20:00 -
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Klandi wrote:Goons - have a good grip on the game mechanics and exploit them - there ... said it. Your use of the word exploit, while correct in denotative meaning, isn't so correct in connotative meaning. Particularly in this context. No, this isn't it at all. Make it more... psssshhhh. |
Christopher AET
hirr Northern Coalition.
761
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Posted - 2014.08.04 23:28:00 -
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1) How does Goonswarm maintain influential control over the entire game?
Numbers and a good grasp of the political metagame.
2) What drives them to destroy the game?
That may once have been their goal but I do not believe that is any longer the case.
3) Why are they unstoppable?
Nullsec right now is the unstoppable force and the immovable object. So if Goons are unstoppable guess that makes us immovable. Of course in the context of the next few years of nullsec we will see. I have seen the "nullsec is dead so and so has won" argument trotted out many times over the years.
4) Why can't all the powerful alliances team up and end Goonswarm once and for all?
Because their allies are so numerous that the remaining alliances have indeed teamed up leading to something of a stalemate, time will tell which side flinches first.
5) How does one kill a Goon?
Well I cannot tell you that secret. But it involves a horse, a potato and about 3 metres of synthetic rope.............and more laxatives than one person can reasonably buy without arousing suspicion. I drain ducks of their moisture for sustenance. |
Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space The ROC
8448
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Posted - 2014.08.04 23:34:00 -
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Robert Sawyer wrote: 5) How does one kill a Goon?
Guns work quite well. They're just players like any other, their leadership is just better organized. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
Clean Up Local 2014.-á |
Thead Enco
47th Ronin
184
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Posted - 2014.08.04 23:45:00 -
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Robert Sawyer wrote:Ever since I've heard of EVE, the most terrifying tale is that of Goonswarm. After looking up their history, they had two Great Wars with an alliance called Band of Brothers, which was defeated. After that, CFC was born. They seem to have their roots in the Something Awful forums. I've paid a visit there and no post seems to make sense. All their content seems to be primarily composed of stupidity, racism and homophobia. Their fleet is also made out of reckless players that have no moral qualities whatsoever. And now, I'm telling you, CFC: do you really want your alliance to be that low? An alliance represented by trolls and the lowest scum the Internet has seen? You are better than that! Now, I want to initiate a lil' poll. Who disagrees with Goonswarm and who doesn't?
*Rant time over, question time
1) How does Goonswarm maintain influential control over the entire game? 2) What drives them to destroy the game? 3) Why are they unstoppable? 4) Why can't all the powerful alliances team up and end Goonswarm once and for all? 5) How does one kill a Goon?
Well.................
-á"A Lannister always pays his debts."
-áTyrion Lannister |
Kharaxus
Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic
54
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Posted - 2014.08.04 23:56:00 -
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Well.................
That is EXACTLY how you kill Goonies. |
The Mittani
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
8234
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Posted - 2014.08.05 00:04:00 -
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muh space-honor~ ~hi~ |
Gallowmere Rorschach
Enlightened Industries Goonswarm Federation
556
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Posted - 2014.08.05 00:04:00 -
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Well, since this has apparently turned into a YouTube link thread: Goonies Never Die |
Thead Enco
47th Ronin
184
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Posted - 2014.08.05 00:09:00 -
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No..No..No...
Goons never die, They endure
-á"A Lannister always pays his debts."
-áTyrion Lannister |
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