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thedragoon
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.15 15:33:00 -
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As from today Alektrophobia forces have started to form in a secret location to make a rampage up north while we have had a small contingent in the area for sometime in response to a MC contract and outbreak of further war in the north we have set goonfleet and there allies in the north to + standings and will be moving our entire alliance into the north to assist Sparta, Goonfleet and there allies
Our goal's are as follows
1 - Counter any threat of MC in the area
2 - Engage and destroy all resistance of D2 assisting our long term allies Burn Eden as and when needed
3 - Destruction of D2 Pos's and Sovran space
We need no luck skill and tactics will provale, Numbers have never and will never be an advantage to the enemy it will simply result in more explosion's
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Zlake
Lynx Frontier Inc. Sparta Alliance
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Posted - 2006.07.15 15:45:00 -
[2]
Signed
Look forward to working with you guys. Oh wait.....according to all the D2,FREEE,IRON posts we're dead already....
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Bitter Vet
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Posted - 2006.07.15 15:48:00 -
[3]
its the beginning of the end of d2
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hired goon
AUS Corporation CORE.
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Posted - 2006.07.15 15:50:00 -
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Edited by: hired goon on 15/07/2006 15:50:27 feh. -omg-
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hired goon
AUS Corporation CORE.
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Posted - 2006.07.15 15:50:00 -
[5]
You show em alty! -omg-
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Emsigma
Contraband Inc.
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Posted - 2006.07.15 15:50:00 -
[6]
Welcome to the fun. Hope you have a nice stay.
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Blacklight
Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.07.15 15:51:00 -
[7]
lol
Eve Blacklight Style
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Rexthor Hammerfists
Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.07.15 15:52:00 -
[8]
FFA! u gotta love it :P - Purple Conquered The World, We the Universe.
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RaYmEn
Cataclysm Enterprises Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2006.07.15 15:54:00 -
[9]
Welcome to the party
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Darko1107
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.15 15:55:00 -
[10]
In other news, pigs are flying. ------------------
Sig removed, please keep it under the 24,000 byte limit, if you have any questions please email [email protected] - Xorus |
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shivan
Minmatar
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Posted - 2006.07.15 16:00:00 -
[11]
have fun
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Death Merchant
InterGalactic Corp. Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2006.07.15 16:23:00 -
[12]
My mother always said that if you eat all your vegetables and say your prayers at night before you go to bed that good things would happen. The north now = PVP paradise. There is in no particular order
D2/Sparta/Iron/FLA/BoB/Rzr/MC/MM/Guard/Alek/Opus/Goons/Smash/a few ASCN/lots of solo corps.
Thank you all, Good fights to all. Also have 2 days off this week. Beautiful.
P.S. The north is gonna need more Node Strength. MAKE IT HAPPEN!!!! Signature removed - File size too large.Laurelin |
Ur Dirac
Amarr
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Posted - 2006.07.15 16:49:00 -
[13]
Goon + thedragoon = mind blown.
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Zimi Vlasic
F.R.E.E. Explorer EVE Animal Control
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Posted - 2006.07.15 16:53:00 -
[14]
Originally by: thedragoon Numbers have never and will never be an advantage to the enemy it will simply result in more explosion's
considering you're on the side with the numbers, I'll have to agree.
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Dragerest
Total Warehouse Logistics
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Posted - 2006.07.15 16:56:00 -
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Originally by: thedragoon As from today Alektrophobia forces have started to form in a secret location to make a rampage up north while we have had a small contingent in the area for sometime in response to a MC contract and outbreak of further war in the north we have set goonfleet and there allies in the north to + standings and will be moving our entire alliance into the north to assist Sparta, Goonfleet and there allies
Our goal's are as follows
1 - Counter any threat of MC in the area
2 - Engage and destroy all resistance of D2 assisting our long term allies Burn Eden as and when needed
3 - Destruction of D2 Pos's and Sovran space
We need no luck skill and tactics will provale, Numbers have never and will never be an advantage to the enemy it will simply result in more explosion's
great does this mean i have to start filling all of my meds slots with warp scramblers?
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Kyguard
LFC 3rd Front Alliance
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Posted - 2006.07.15 17:06:00 -
[16]
Is there a lot of blobbing going on or is there some room for solo pvpers/small gangs? ===
God is on the side with the best arti |
0153
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Posted - 2006.07.15 17:08:00 -
[17]
Originally by: Bitter Vet its the beginning of the end of d2
Mhhh it can be .. D2 lose the controll of Cloud Ring and also of an Fade Station ... Deklein is atm an warzone beteen D2 enemys and friend ... most pats of Venal are also under the controll of d2 enemys ... since 2 weeks is BOB in Pure Blind and start heavy attacks against d2 allies for example d2 lose an carrier today against BOB ( http://www.killboard.net/?p=details&id=84663 ) but d2 do nothing against them .. so is that realy the beginning of the end .. ? |
Deja Thoris
Contraband Inc. Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2006.07.15 17:17:00 -
[18]
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Xrak
Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.07.15 17:20:00 -
[19]
Well aint the North just a ****fest, which tbh is great!
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HippoKing
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.15 17:28:00 -
[20]
After the PWNAGE released on the Big Blue, I am truly scared for D2.
(yes, I mean a single target painter )
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liquidism
Asgard Schiffswerften Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2006.07.15 17:34:00 -
[21]
*update* 400 retards vs. 50 ninjas
alektowhatever.. you made your choice,
too
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Lunas Feelgood
Euphoria Released Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2006.07.15 17:35:00 -
[22]
LMAO arnt you guys busy taking BB space??
Btw may i come with a suggest thedragoon try to actually complet you plans..
Anyway this thread prop needs a locking, they dont really deserve attention..
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Alaesa
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Posted - 2006.07.15 17:35:00 -
[23]
so I take it you got your isk back for teh carrier FLA were building for you.
or did you give up on it ?
from what I heard you were sent packing with your tail between your legs
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thedragoon
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.15 17:43:00 -
[24]
Originally by: Alaesa Edited by: Alaesa on 15/07/2006 17:35:28 so I take it you got your isk back for the carrier FLA were building for you.
or did you give up on it ?
from what I heard you were sent packing with your tail between your legs
edit spelling
ugh ?
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Chrony
Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.07.15 17:43:00 -
[25]
Originally by: 0153
Originally by: Bitter Vet its the beginning of the end of d2
since 2 weeks is BOB in Pure Blind and start heavy attacks against d2 allies for example d2 lose an carrier today against BOB ( http://www.killboard.net/?p=details&id=84663 ) but d2 do nothing against them .. so is that realy the beginning of the end .. ?
We dont have anyone in the north on +5 so we are actually attacking both sides! \o/ Three way fights for the win!
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Roule
Catalyst Reaction
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Posted - 2006.07.15 17:49:00 -
[26]
This be just like a pure pile on, like the ones at school.
I just wonder who is going to be the fat kid and squash everyone
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Probedrone
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Posted - 2006.07.15 18:03:00 -
[27]
Originally by: 0153
Originally by: Bitter Vet its the beginning of the end of d2
Mhhh it can be .. D2 lose the controll of Cloud Ring and also of an Fade Station ... Deklein is atm an warzone beteen D2 enemys and friend ... most pats of Venal are also under the controll of d2 enemys ... since 2 weeks is BOB in Pure Blind and start heavy attacks against d2 allies for example d2 lose an carrier today against BOB ( http://www.killboard.net/?p=details&id=84663 ) but d2 do nothing against them .. so is that realy the beginning of the end .. ?
Your infos arnt that accurate.. pls try again.
btw. Hi Mommy iam an Alt o/
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Stamm
Amarr
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Posted - 2006.07.15 18:06:00 -
[28]
Originally by: Chrony
Originally by: 0153
Originally by: Bitter Vet its the beginning of the end of d2
since 2 weeks is BOB in Pure Blind and start heavy attacks against d2 allies for example d2 lose an carrier today against BOB ( http://www.killboard.net/?p=details&id=84663 ) but d2 do nothing against them .. so is that realy the beginning of the end .. ?
We dont have anyone in the north on +5 so we are actually attacking both sides! \o/ Three way fights for the win!
What about MC?
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slip66
Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.07.15 18:41:00 -
[29]
I like how this northern fight keeps escalating :) Lots of strife.
Originally by: StOrM ViPeR Theres a skill called surgical strike in game I've learned that it actually stands for Band of Brothers |
Anita Haircut
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Posted - 2006.07.15 18:44:00 -
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Awesome! Go GOON/SPARTA/ALEKTOROPHOBIA!!!
With continuued added pressure on D2 over a period of time with some victories, you should be able to start "peeling away" the support of minion alliances such as GUARD/MORSUS and CDC, some of which rely of daddy D2's capital ship fleet to protect their stations from takeover and suckle D2's standings list.
Rumor has it that D2 has a capital ship construction POS in either the BKG or QYMZ areas. Even if you can't find it, you can get some easy kills from miners and NPCers in those areas.
Down with D2!
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NOObbody
The X-Trading Company Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2006.07.15 19:06:00 -
[31]
Originally by: Anita Haircut
Down with D2!
Going down isnŠt that easy, when you have next to no casualties....
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thedragoon
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.15 19:40:00 -
[32]
Originally by: NOObbody
Originally by: Anita Haircut
Down with D2!
Going down isnŠt that easy, when you have next to no casualties....
at least 8 dredds is next to no losses ?
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Nafri
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.15 19:53:00 -
[33]
Originally by: thedragoon
Originally by: NOObbody
Originally by: Anita Haircut
Down with D2!
Going down isnŠt that easy, when you have next to no casualties....
at least 8 dredds is next to no losses ?
compared to the income in that time.... yes?
From Dusk till Dawn Sig removed, e-mail us if you'd like to know why. -ReverendM ([email protected]) |
thedragoon
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.15 20:00:00 -
[34]
Originally by: Nafri
Originally by: thedragoon
Originally by: NOObbody
Originally by: Anita Haircut
Down with D2!
Going down isnŠt that easy, when you have next to no casualties....
at least 8 dredds is next to no losses ?
compared to the income in that time.... yes?
how about the stations and the ships and the members that they have lost so far ??
sounds like to me that D2 are a bleeding pig right now and are trying to convince themselves as it is clear what is going on,.
or do u want to make me feel better that there may be some targets for us after all ?
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Dragerest
Total Warehouse Logistics
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Posted - 2006.07.15 20:16:00 -
[35]
Originally by: thedragoon
Originally by: Nafri
Originally by: thedragoon
Originally by: NOObbody
Originally by: Anita Haircut
Down with D2!
Going down isnŠt that easy, when you have next to no casualties....
at least 8 dredds is next to no losses ?
compared to the income in that time.... yes?
how about the stations and the ships and the members that they have lost so far ??
sounds like to me that D2 are a bleeding pig right now and are trying to convince themselves as it is clear what is going on,.
or do u want to make me feel better that there may be some targets for us after all ?
thanks for the laugh that was a good one.
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Probedrone
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Posted - 2006.07.15 20:17:00 -
[36]
Edited by: Probedrone on 15/07/2006 20:17:50 o/ hi mommy its me again.
Well.. the dreadlosses where about 3 till 4 weeks ago. the pos which got destroys where from youwhat and also in the first week... life in the present mate.
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NOObbody
The X-Trading Company Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2006.07.15 20:18:00 -
[37]
Originally by: thedragoon
at least 8 dredds is next to no losses ?
9 Dreads... I dont think anyone misses them
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Doctor Pod
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Posted - 2006.07.15 20:26:00 -
[38]
Originally by: NOObbody
Originally by: thedragoon
at least 8 dredds is next to no losses ?
9 Dreads... I dont think anyone misses them
Thats probably 9 more than you've contributed if you still act like you did in XF(which I'm sure you do).
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NOObbody
The X-Trading Company Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2006.07.15 20:29:00 -
[39]
Originally by: Doctor Pod
Originally by: NOObbody
Originally by: thedragoon
at least 8 dredds is next to no losses ?
9 Dreads... I dont think anyone misses them
Thats probably 9 more than you've contributed if you still act like you did in XF(which I'm sure you do).
alt = persona non grata
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qweasdzxcqwe
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Posted - 2006.07.15 20:39:00 -
[40]
Edited by: qweasdzxcqwe on 15/07/2006 20:39:31
Originally by: Death Merchant The north now = PVP paradise. There is in no particular order
D2/Sparta/Iron/FLA/BoB/Rzr/MC/MM/Guard/Alek/Opus/Goons/Smash/a few ASCN/lots of solo corps.
Thank you all, Good fights to all. Also have 2 days off this week. Beautiful.
P.S. The north is gonna need more Node Strength. MAKE IT HAPPEN!!!!
Right, and this just shows that all IRON ever wanted as a complete warzone in the north, they never wanted any "peace" as they claimed in other threads. IRON left north several months ago saying they were bored of not having anyone to shoot at. They came back, and still didnt have many people to shoot at. So they started stirring up crap, untill they got what they wanted: complete war.
After this, how can anyone believe IRON's claims that they wanted peace in the IRON/FLA vs NFC/SPARTA conflict?
Oh, and to N00bbody: D2 = persona non grata
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Shimpu
Asgard Schiffswerften Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2006.07.15 20:40:00 -
[41]
Originally by: Bitter Vet its the beginning of the end of d2
The end is nigh!
Originally by: Unknown Scout "ze scoud ffrom xzy, hSs a geighz aggdi...,eeeeeehhhmmmmm, somesing is jambing halt, sree hospitalized incoming." |
DiNoer
DFCK Inc. Ekliptika
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Posted - 2006.07.15 20:43:00 -
[42]
meh... think I will set up a kebab stand in X-7 instead. Might as well profit somehow out of all this.
GL Alek
La prospTritT de l'Gme libre La prospTritT de la fTdTration
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DTee
Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.07.15 20:57:00 -
[43]
Edited by: DTee on 15/07/2006 20:58:16 Nice to see things are kicking off up north and everyones getting stuck in. Looks like everyones shooting everyone. So it shouldn't be that bad, in comparison to the old everyone blue time since all this has broken out.
We'll just have to see how D2 handles it. Lets be realistic though D2 loosing 9 dreads probably wasn't the BIGGEST hit. I'm sure they are ready to loose 9 more ;)
Goodluck to all. Hope you ladies enjoy yourselves.
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Black Atom
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Posted - 2006.07.15 21:00:00 -
[44]
Originally by: Kyguard Is there a lot of blobbing going on or is there some room for solo pvpers/small gangs?
Lots of fun to be had breaking up 10-15 person gate camps.
:p
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Kaeten
Hybrid Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.07.15 21:22:00 -
[45]
guys stfu and go kill in eve lol
High-Sec Piracy Recruitment |
OzaLoni
Gallente
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Posted - 2006.07.15 21:24:00 -
[46]
welcome to the north....
Only one image as a sig please - Cathath ([email protected]) |
Ath Amon
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Posted - 2006.07.15 21:28:00 -
[47]
Originally by: thedragoon As from today Alektrophobia forces have started to form in a secret location to make a rampage up north while we have had a small contingent in the area for sometime in response to a MC contract and outbreak of further war in the north we have set goonfleet and there allies in the north to + standings and will be moving our entire alliance into the north to assist Sparta, Goonfleet and there allies
Our goal's are as follows
1 - Counter any threat of MC in the area
2 - Engage and destroy all resistance of D2 assisting our long term allies Burn Eden as and when needed
3 - Destruction of D2 Pos's and Sovran space
We need no luck skill and tactics will provale, Numbers have never and will never be an advantage to the enemy it will simply result in more explosion's
ehm just a curiosity as i was out for some weeks and lost some backstory but...
you where not committed by FLA/NFC to defend northen space against aggressors and invading forces?
i heard about the "civil" war between FLA and NFC but Goons seem to me an invasion force and NFC allied with them before being disbanded (and this actually alienated their old allies D2)
so you should be not still bounded to the word you gave during the last peace negotiations?
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Laythun
ECP Rogues Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2006.07.15 22:51:00 -
[48]
*Laythun pats himself on the back for making such a good choice of Alliance*
Indeed a pvp heaven.
See You In Space Cowboy |
Doragee
Minmatar
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Posted - 2006.07.15 22:54:00 -
[49]
Soooo....Alectsomething is now fighting alongside xNFC?? Interesting points of view....that shows clearly where your own word stands...!!
It's not any iskie more worth than i can throw on any T2 WCS.... --
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Cantaris Choldieri
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Posted - 2006.07.15 23:20:00 -
[50]
I'm a bit puzzled as to how someone who's stated ambition in life was to unite the universe against BoB now has ended up in a coalition against D2.... Funny too how most people who claim honour and integrity turns out to have no understanding of the terms at all.
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Nafri
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.15 23:31:00 -
[51]
Originally by: thedragoon
Originally by: Nafri
Originally by: thedragoon
Originally by: NOObbody
Originally by: Anita Haircut
Down with D2!
Going down isnŠt that easy, when you have next to no casualties....
at least 8 dredds is next to no losses ?
compared to the income in that time.... yes?
how about the stations and the ships and the members that they have lost so far ??
sounds like to me that D2 are a bleeding pig right now and are trying to convince themselves as it is clear what is going on,.
or do u want to make me feel better that there may be some targets for us after all ?
D2 has lost only 1 station so far, thats XZH which is "You What" space anyway. STV and FSP. left before the whole war started.
And when you would read the funny goon thread, you would know how it looks on the other side of the fence
From Dusk till Dawn Sig removed, e-mail us if you'd like to know why. -ReverendM ([email protected]) |
Oliberto Stewart
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Posted - 2006.07.15 23:37:00 -
[52]
Originally by: Cantaris Choldieri I'm a bit puzzled as to how someone who's stated ambition in life was to unite the universe against BoB now has ended up in a coalition against D2.... Funny too how most people who claim honour and integrity turns out to have no understanding of the terms at all.
What's your point? D2 is too weak to take on BoB anyway.
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The g0ose
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Posted - 2006.07.15 23:47:00 -
[53]
Originally by: Kyguard Is there a lot of blobbing going on or is there some room for solo pvpers/small gangs?
it's paradise
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Cantaris Choldieri
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Posted - 2006.07.15 23:51:00 -
[54]
The point was that the stated goal and crusade of the Dragoon was to rid the world of BoB, by assembling a coalition of forces against them. However, the opportunity to mess up EVE's largest counterweight to BoB seems to have been just too tempting. Hence the comment on honour and integrity, or lack thereof.
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Laythun
ECP Rogues Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2006.07.15 23:57:00 -
[55]
Originally by: Oliberto Stewart
Originally by: Cantaris Choldieri I'm a bit puzzled as to how someone who's stated ambition in life was to unite the universe against BoB now has ended up in a coalition against D2.... Funny too how most people who claim honour and integrity turns out to have no understanding of the terms at all.
What's your point? D2 is too weak to take on BoB anyway.
And i suppose your gonna pull an allaince out of thin air strong enough? everyone has to grow...
Originally by: Rome Total War The strong did what they could, the weak suffered what they must
See You In Space Cowboy |
Kryztal
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.16 00:00:00 -
[56]
Wootabilous more targets make kryztal happy ... i might just manage to undock ! ... VODKA 4tw!
BobÖ Brand Bleach - Eliminates Every Stain |
Oliberto Stewart
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Posted - 2006.07.16 00:00:00 -
[57]
Originally by: Laythun
Originally by: Oliberto Stewart
Originally by: Cantaris Choldieri I'm a bit puzzled as to how someone who's stated ambition in life was to unite the universe against BoB now has ended up in a coalition against D2.... Funny too how most people who claim honour and integrity turns out to have no understanding of the terms at all.
What's your point? D2 is too weak to take on BoB anyway.
And i suppose your gonna pull an allaince out of thin air strong enough? everyone has to grow...
Originally by: Rome Total War The strong did what they could, the weak suffered what they must
You're right, I retract my statement.
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Deidranna
SteelVipers YouWhat
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Posted - 2006.07.16 00:39:00 -
[58]
Originally by: thedragoon
Originally by: NOObbody
Originally by: Anita Haircut
Down with D2!
Going down isnŠt that easy, when you have next to no casualties....
at least 8 dredds is next to no losses ?
well dreads are too only some colored pixels and ... tend to explode sometimes and how the dreads went *booom* is still... well not again :D
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Dinique
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.16 00:40:00 -
[59]
Originally by: NOObbody
Originally by: Anita Haircut
Down with D2!
Going down isnŠt that easy, when you have next to no casualties....
Try harder, we must. _____
There's so many different worlds So many different suns And we have just one world But we live in different ones
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Goberth Ludwig
eXceed Inc. Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.07.16 02:31:00 -
[60]
rofl...
gogo D2
- Gob
[IXC] Admiral Goberius |
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Mr buttsmack
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Posted - 2006.07.16 02:44:00 -
[61]
Ya got to love that 1trav1 how he forced D2's hand! go goonfleet and friends about time the north had a good shake up!!!
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NATMav
F.R.E.E. Explorer EVE Animal Control
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Posted - 2006.07.16 05:02:00 -
[62]
Originally by: Goberth Ludwig rofl...
gogo D2
Hell hath frozen over.
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Maverick McDougel
Shiva Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2006.07.16 05:10:00 -
[63]
Originally by: NATMav
Originally by: Goberth Ludwig rofl...
gogo D2
Hell hath frozen over.
i yet again made the mistake of drinking liquids while reading the forum and i almost wiped out my laptop when i read that one.
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The Fence
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Posted - 2006.07.16 05:40:00 -
[64]
Originally by: thedragoon
at least 8 dredds is next to no losses ?
Tell us about losing dreads goon. |
Emrod
Amarr
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Posted - 2006.07.16 05:54:00 -
[65]
Originally by: thedragoon As from today Alektrophobia forces have started to form in a secret location to make a rampage up north while we have had a small contingent in the area for sometime in response to a MC contract and outbreak of further war in the north we have set goonfleet and there allies in the north to + standings and will be moving our entire alliance into the north to assist Sparta, Goonfleet and there allies
Our goal's are as follows
1 - Counter any threat of MC in the area
2 - Engage and destroy all resistance of D2 assisting our long term allies Burn Eden as and when needed
3 - Destruction of D2 Pos's and Sovran space
We need no luck skill and tactics will provale, Numbers have never and will never be an advantage to the enemy it will simply result in more explosion's
Good luck in this war
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Mollari Cotto
Occassus Republica Process of Elimination
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Posted - 2006.07.16 06:44:00 -
[66]
o/ welcome to the fun.
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Cmd Woodlouse
Cataclysm Enterprises Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2006.07.16 09:44:00 -
[67]
Originally by: thedragoon
3 - Destruction of D2 Pos's and Sovran space
rofl.
will u use ur t2 wcs on your dreads? --------------------------------
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Cmd Woodlouse
Cataclysm Enterprises Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2006.07.16 09:46:00 -
[68]
Originally by: thedragoon
Originally by: NOObbody
Originally by: Anita Haircut
Down with D2!
Going down isnŠt that easy, when you have next to no casualties....
at least 8 dredds is next to no losses ?
40 minutes lag, drone-exploit, full reimbursement.
All sorted, but thanks. --------------------------------
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Cmd Woodlouse
Cataclysm Enterprises Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2006.07.16 09:47:00 -
[69]
Originally by: Doctor Pod
Originally by: NOObbody
Originally by: thedragoon
at least 8 dredds is next to no losses ?
9 Dreads... I dont think anyone misses them
Thats probably 9 more than you've contributed if you still act like you did in XF(which I'm sure you do).
nope thats 6 more. Alt Idiot. --------------------------------
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LUKEC
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.07.16 10:45:00 -
[70]
Edited by: LUKEC on 16/07/2006 10:48:11
Originally by: Cmd Woodlouse
Originally by: thedragoon
3 - Destruction of D2 Pos's and Sovran space
rofl.
will u use ur t2 wcs on your dreads?
Jumping into 0.0 is dangerous, mmkay. Especially without wcs. --------- Boost caldari. It will reduce whining on forums due to the fact: 45% chars are mostly caldari specialized. |
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Ace Frehley
Minmatar
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Posted - 2006.07.16 12:59:00 -
[71]
Can we come??? Sounds you having fun.... BBCODE: |
Nafri
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.16 13:38:00 -
[72]
Originally by: Ace Frehley Can we come??? Sounds you having fun....
Sorry, but this war is continued on forums basicly.
Ingame there is hardly fun, even that suicide fleet goon/Sparta sent in yesterday was hardly fun. Whats the point of jumping a few BS and cruisers through a gate and then retreating in panic loosing 20 ships? I dont know how you see this, but I lack any understanding for their motivation. It is ok to suicide to have a fight, but suiciding just for the sake of suiciding is kinda strange.
If you want to have nice fights, the north is not the place at the moment.
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BurnYaBad
Nova Forge Industries Sparta Alliance
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Posted - 2006.07.16 17:24:00 -
[73]
I hate forum wars, and especially forum liars. D2 your propaganda machine is hard at work, while our war machine is doing its job OUTSIDE the forums. Enjoy your smack talk and outright lying today, tomorrow will be a different story.
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Lorth
Synchro.
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Posted - 2006.07.16 17:44:00 -
[74]
Originally by: BurnYaBad I hate forum wars, and especially forum liars. D2 your propaganda machine is hard at work, while our war machine is doing its job OUTSIDE the forums. Enjoy your smack talk and outright lying today, tomorrow will be a different story.
Ok then.... What happened last night?
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Darko1107
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.16 17:44:00 -
[75]
Edited by: Darko1107 on 16/07/2006 17:44:07 Sparta?
War Machine?
**** off. ------------------
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Cringeley
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.16 17:49:00 -
[76]
Hahahahahaha.
Dude: Man, D2 and IRON are only bringing it on the forums. D2 and IRON Forum warriors: OH YEAH?!
I'm sorry, that's just very funny to me.
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Deviana Sevidon
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Posted - 2006.07.16 17:52:00 -
[77]
Quote: I hate forum wars, and especially forum liars. D2 your propaganda machine is hard at work, while our war machine is doing its job OUTSIDE the forums. Enjoy your smack talk and outright lying today, tomorrow will be a different story.
Sorry, but from what I have seen, most smack comes from little Goonies and their Friends.
While I have at least some respect for Goonswarm, I have no respect for bunch of traitors Sparta.
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Cringeley
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.16 17:56:00 -
[78]
Originally by: Deviana Sevidon Sorry, but from what I have seen, most smack comes from little Goonies and their Friends.
Would you care to back this up with stats?
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Doragee
Minmatar
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Posted - 2006.07.16 17:56:00 -
[79]
Originally by: Lorth
Ok then.... What happened last night?
Checking the available KB it was just another lost engagment for this unhealthy coalition of GS/SPR...as usual...
@ the goon posted before me: Checking these KB's (including your own!) i missed any GS engagment within the last week which was actually at least a stalemate or did help you in your progress. And btw.: I still miss some GS-losses made by myself on your KB. --
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Nafri
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.16 18:17:00 -
[80]
Originally by: Cringeley
Originally by: Deviana Sevidon Sorry, but from what I have seen, most smack comes from little Goonies and their Friends.
Would you care to back this up with stats?
all those alts with not the creative naming
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Laythun
ECP Rogues Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2006.07.16 18:27:00 -
[81]
Originally by: Cringeley Hahahahahaha.
Dude: Man, D2 and IRON are only bringing it on the forums. D2 and IRON Forum warriors: OH YEAH?!
I'm sorry, that's just very funny to me.
hey man log in, press F10 and check north dek, then come back and tell me what u see.
We here at D2 are multi talented, the war must be won on all fronts.
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1Trav1
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Posted - 2006.07.16 18:29:00 -
[82]
going down D2 :)
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Emno
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.16 18:37:00 -
[83]
Originally by: 1Trav1 going down D2 :)
you killed your alliance with a module Œ_Œ chav high tbh
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Lunas Feelgood
Euphoria Released Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2006.07.16 18:37:00 -
[84]
Originally by: Cringeley
Originally by: Deviana Sevidon Sorry, but from what I have seen, most smack comes from little Goonies and their Friends.
Would you care to back this up with stats?
Cringeley m8 I really did respect goonfleet however m8 the recent weeks I have almost lost it all again..
Why you ask?? you wont fight anymore all you do is hiring mercs and putting up POS everywhere when we all asleep.. the first week in xzh you fought in all timezone and earned our respect.
But lats be honest there havent been any big fight since the first week in xzh which I enjoyed alot btw.. All you do is putting up POS atm in the US timezone, I cant find a single goon or sparta to shoot at.. Its really depressing atm.. This RA tactic like thye did to 5 is kind of pathetic if you ask me..
Also all you bloddy members and there alts, posting goatse pictures and all kind of crap are destroying these forums and every1 in EVE knows its goon alts...
Frankly since the goons started to participate in the forums battle the alt post has gone up 1000% and are simply destroying the forums... And it also gets our dear mods owerworked and they are actually really busy.. And every knows it goons alt so i simply dont udnerstand why the goon leadership dont just lat you members post.. Its just making you guys look foolish.
Anyway im sitting in deklein somewhere and I sincerly hope that Ill get a fight this evening before we all goto bed..
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General Hansen
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.16 18:40:00 -
[85]
Its hilarious because when RA did it to us (the .5.) you all cheered of joy.
Now you get the POS spammage so be happy
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Blacklight
Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.07.16 18:42:00 -
[86]
Originally by: Darko1107 Edited by: Darko1107 on 16/07/2006 17:44:07 Sparta?
War Machine?
**** off.
Everything's relative. You know that saying about glass houses?
Eve Blacklight Style
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Cringeley
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.16 18:45:00 -
[87]
Wait a minute, are you saying that it's our job to make targets of ourselves during your primetime?
Also I thought it was particularly classy that you responded with smacktalk to my request for someone else to back up their claim that goons are responsible for smacktalk (which is patently untrue).
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Cowboy Ramrott
Cataclysm Enterprises Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2006.07.16 18:50:00 -
[88]
All bandwagoners that r joining these Sparta traitors while shouting out : "Down with D2" , u fools never ever fought a POS War in multiple systems at one time.
plz come up to the north soon so u can leave , with all ur dreams destroyed, in ur pod, mining the next weeks for ur new ship.
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fire 59
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.07.16 18:58:00 -
[89]
No matter what the situation is, it's great to be in a target rich environment with such drama and betrayal etc
Iron and G eat babie's , my views are my own, they do not refect my corp or my alliance |
Turiya Flesharrower
Beagle Corp
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Posted - 2006.07.16 19:00:00 -
[90]
Righto.
We'll be shooting you, but don't feel bad since we'll be shooting D2 as well. We'll also be shooting everyone else so they needn't feel bad. We may even shoot eachother if we get bored.
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Dragerest
Total Warehouse Logistics
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Posted - 2006.07.16 19:03:00 -
[91]
Originally by: 1Trav1 going down D2 :)
this guy makes me smile.. he is yelling DOWN WITH D2 DOWN WITH D2. as 1-3 corps,and god knows how many members get out of sparta/goons to fight agaist them.. should be cynomoron
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Cmd Woodlouse
Cataclysm Enterprises Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2006.07.16 19:30:00 -
[92]
Originally by: BurnYaBad I hate forum wars, and especially forum liars. D2 your propaganda machine is hard at work, while our war machine is doing its job OUTSIDE the forums. Enjoy your smack talk and outright lying today, tomorrow will be a different story.
Tell me about our ebil lies, plz. --------------------------------
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Cmd Woodlouse
Cataclysm Enterprises Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2006.07.16 19:34:00 -
[93]
Originally by: General Hansen
Its hilarious because when RA did it to us (the .5.) you all cheered of joy.
Now you get the POS spammage so be happy
Nobody from G did that. Infact we found it quite lame... --------------------------------
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Darko1107
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.16 20:23:00 -
[94]
Edited by: Darko1107 on 16/07/2006 20:25:00
Originally by: Blacklight
Originally by: Darko1107 Edited by: Darko1107 on 16/07/2006 17:44:07 Sparta?
War Machine?
**** off.
Everything's relative. You know that saying about glass houses?
In the words of Karl pilkington, "If you live in glass house, dont be chucking stuff about or you might break something".
But, 1 thing is constant in all inertial frames of reference, the speed of light, in this case its that industrial alliances dont have war machines. ------------------
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Stahlregen
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2006.07.16 20:35:00 -
[95]
This made me giggle so much. There is certainly something incredibly satisfying being on thedragoon's side of the forum for once. Penetrate and goonfleet have had some friction in the past, But man, This is fantastic working together for once. So here's to you Dragoon! Keep on keeping on, man.
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Lorth
Synchro.
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Posted - 2006.07.16 20:59:00 -
[96]
Originally by: Cringeley Wait a minute, are you saying that it's our job to make targets of ourselves during your primetime?
Also I thought it was particularly classy that you responded with smacktalk to my request for someone else to back up their claim that goons are responsible for smacktalk (which is patently untrue).
Well would you like to sort through thousands of replys to tell me who is smacking the most? I'm not going to do it, nor is anyone else. Your asking someone to prove something, which frankly can't be proved, and then declaring your self right when they don't.
But just as an FYI. Yes it is your job to present your selves on the battle field when a war is being fought.
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The Mittani
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2006.07.16 21:01:00 -
[97]
Posting on eve-o because I can!
I'd like to echo Stahl's comments, it's amazing that we're all on the same side now against D2. Do you guys have any videos showing off your tactics, because I'm pretty intruiged by them.
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Andre Carnegi
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2006.07.16 21:23:00 -
[98]
Edited by: Andre Carnegi on 16/07/2006 21:24:44
Originally by: Lorth
Originally by: Cringeley Wait a minute, are you saying that it's our job to make targets of ourselves during your primetime?
Also I thought it was particularly classy that you responded with smacktalk to my request for someone else to back up their claim that goons are responsible for smacktalk (which is patently untrue).
Well would you like to sort through thousands of replys to tell me who is smacking the most? I'm not going to do it, nor is anyone else. Your asking someone to prove something, which frankly can't be proved, and then declaring your self right when they don't.
But just as an FYI. Yes it is your job to present your selves on the battle field when a war is being fought.
This is pretty funny. "Your asking someone to prove something, which frankly can't be proved, and then declaring your self right when they don't." If you can't prove it, it's unwise to make claims whining about it.
"But just as an FYI. Yes it is your job to present your selves on the battle field when a war is being fought." If you don't like the manner in which the war is being conducted, you should do what you can to change the terms of engagement. Asymetric warfare is not carried about by two parties "presenting" themselves on the battlefield according to somebody's narrow perspective. Complaining about it is just a sign that your enemies have a strategy you can't counter.
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NATMav
F.R.E.E. Explorer EVE Animal Control
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Posted - 2006.07.16 21:29:00 -
[99]
Edited by: NATMav on 16/07/2006 21:29:49
Originally by: BurnYaBad I hate forum wars, and especially forum liars. D2 your propaganda machine is hard at work, while our war machine is doing its job OUTSIDE the forums. Enjoy your smack talk and outright lying today, tomorrow will be a different story.
ORLY?
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Tuijabird
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Posted - 2006.07.16 21:30:00 -
[100]
Originally by: BurnYaBad I hate forum wars, and especially forum liars. D2 your propaganda machine is hard at work, while our war machine is doing its job OUTSIDE the forums. Enjoy your smack talk and outright lying today, tomorrow will be a different story.
From the sound of things maybe you should be concentrating on the fact your alliance mates are dropping like flys and leaving not on the forums lying. It is the end of anything sparta could of become. What did you do to the mighty sparta... you baffons. :( ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
A rolling stone gathers no moss
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Erohn
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Posted - 2006.07.16 21:31:00 -
[101]
Originally by: Tuijabird you baffons.
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The Mittani
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2006.07.16 21:40:00 -
[102]
Originally by: Tuijabird
Originally by: BurnYaBad I hate forum wars, and especially forum liars. D2 your propaganda machine is hard at work, while our war machine is doing its job OUTSIDE the forums. Enjoy your smack talk and outright lying today, tomorrow will be a different story.
From the sound of things maybe you should be concentrating on the fact your alliance mates are dropping like flys and leaving not on the forums lying. It is the end of anything sparta could of become. What did you do to the mighty sparta... you baffons. :(
You know, I've spend a lot of time wondering if you are actually a goon alt going undercover to make D2 look bad. If you didn't exist, I'd have to invent you.
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Lorth
Synchro.
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Posted - 2006.07.16 21:49:00 -
[103]
Originally by: Andre Carnegi
If you don't like the manner in which the war is being conducted, you should do what you can to change the terms of engagement. Asymetric warfare is not carried out by two parties "presenting" themselves on the battlefield according to somebody's narrow perspective. Complaining about it is just a sign that your enemies have a strategy you can't counter.
Well for one, I'm no longer in the conflict.
But as to your uber uncountrable stratagy. Lets ask sparta who have been left alone to the lions, what they think of it.
I stand by my assertion that you are supposed to present your self on the battle field. Goon's have willinly and openly allowed thier allies to become splintered and kill off one at a time. Good move.
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Andre Carnegi
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2006.07.16 21:58:00 -
[104]
Edited by: Andre Carnegi on 16/07/2006 21:58:32
Originally by: Lorth
Originally by: Andre Carnegi
If you don't like the manner in which the war is being conducted, you should do what you can to change the terms of engagement. Asymetric warfare is not carried out by two parties "presenting" themselves on the battlefield according to somebody's narrow perspective. Complaining about it is just a sign that your enemies have a strategy you can't counter.
Well for one, I'm no longer in the conflict.
But as to your uber uncountrable stratagy. Lets ask sparta who have been left alone to the lions, what they think of it.
I stand by my assertion that you are supposed to present your self on the battle field. Goon's have willinly and openly allowed thier allies to become splintered and kill off one at a time. Good move.
Sparta's received a lot of support from us. They haven't folded yet, and we're not going to let them. Sparta still has sovereignty over its systems in deklein, and it's unlikely that they will lose sov. anytime soon. Unlike D2, we've stood by our allies.
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Won Ton
GoonWaffe GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2006.07.16 22:02:00 -
[105]
Originally by: Lorth
Originally by: Andre Carnegi
If you don't like the manner in which the war is being conducted, you should do what you can to change the terms of engagement. Asymetric warfare is not carried out by two parties "presenting" themselves on the battlefield according to somebody's narrow perspective. Complaining about it is just a sign that your enemies have a strategy you can't counter.
Well for one, I'm no longer in the conflict.
But as to your uber uncountrable stratagy. Lets ask sparta who have been left alone to the lions, what they think of it.
I stand by my assertion that you are supposed to present your self on the battle field. Goon's have willinly and openly allowed thier allies to become splintered and kill off one at a time. Good move.
Being that you are 'no longer in the conflict' it's good that you have the insight to say that Sparta has been 'left alone to the lions'. All of GoonSwarm is united in purpose, and that purpose is to make Sparta believe in a week or two from now that we are the best possible allies they could have asked for. How about instead of everyone talking about how Sparta is going to die, wait a week and see how far down the road you've gone to crushing Sparta. Not if the Swarm has anything to say about it.
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Lunas Feelgood
Euphoria Released Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2006.07.16 22:13:00 -
[106]
Originally by: Won Ton
Originally by: Lorth
Originally by: Andre Carnegi
If you don't like the manner in which the war is being conducted, you should do what you can to change the terms of engagement. Asymetric warfare is not carried out by two parties "presenting" themselves on the battlefield according to somebody's narrow perspective. Complaining about it is just a sign that your enemies have a strategy you can't counter.
Well for one, I'm no longer in the conflict.
But as to your uber uncountrable stratagy. Lets ask sparta who have been left alone to the lions, what they think of it.
I stand by my assertion that you are supposed to present your self on the battle field. Goon's have willinly and openly allowed thier allies to become splintered and kill off one at a time. Good move.
Being that you are 'no longer in the conflict' it's good that you have the insight to say that Sparta has been 'left alone to the lions'. All of GoonSwarm is united in purpose, and that purpose is to make Sparta believe in a week or two from now that we are the best possible allies they could have asked for. How about instead of everyone talking about how Sparta is going to die, wait a week and see how far down the road you've gone to crushing Sparta. Not if the Swarm has anything to say about it.
LMAO I got 15 convoŠs this evening from sparta pvpŠers who wanted to join E-R becuase they saw no point in anything anymore...
BTW thx for that amasing figth we had this evening.. ohh wait I forgot the goon fleet loged out and refused to figth us again.. Thx for once again ruining what could have been a fun fight..And the sparta is prop very happy with you amasing support also..I say again all my respect for goons is completly gone..
Respect for fighting us the first week in XZH and thats it.. This war has gone from fun to boring.. Hell I actually think im gonna go mining in jita ill prop get the same adranalin rush like i did tonight..
Anyway enjoy you POS spammage tonight..I have never seen so many POS before you get like 50 up every damm night What you gonna do when you have used all the POS there excist ingame??
Btw excellent choice by the goon leadership to alove you members to post.. Maybe this forum can still be saved..
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SaorAlba
Cataclysm Enterprises Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2006.07.16 22:17:00 -
[107]
Originally by: Cringeley Hahahahahaha.
Dude: Man, D2 and IRON are only bringing it on the forums. D2 and IRON Forum warriors: OH YEAH?!
I'm sorry, that's just very funny to me.
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Doxa
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Posted - 2006.07.16 22:22:00 -
[108]
Originally by: Darko1107 Edited by: Darko1107 on 16/07/2006 17:44:07 Sparta?
War Machine?
**** off.
fight us 1 on 1 then, without your d2 / fla buddies and see what happens
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Cmd Woodlouse
Cataclysm Enterprises Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2006.07.16 22:26:00 -
[109]
Originally by: Andre Carnegi Sparta still has sovereignty over its systems in deklein, and it's unlikely that they will lose sov. anytime soon.
If i wouldnt be away for the next 3 weeks in hospital i would quote u on that
Anyways it depends on when exactly "they" are coming up. --------------------------------
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Cain Fortea
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Posted - 2006.07.16 22:28:00 -
[110]
Originally by: Lorth
Well would you like to sort through thousands of replys to tell me who is smacking the most? I'm not going to do it, nor is anyone else. Your asking someone to prove something, which frankly can't be proved, and then declaring your self right when they don't.
You made a statement, someone else asked you to prove it. You are refusing to do so. I'm having a hard time understanding how that bolsters your statement's strength.
Originally by: Lorth But just as an FYI. Yes it is your job to present your selves on the battle field when a war is being fought.
Why present ourselves during a time that D2 is in primetime and we are not? I mean, this isn't a highschool pickup game of basketball where one captain has to take the short chubby kid because the other captain picked the clutz with coke bottle glasses. We fight you when we can win, or when there is an objective worth fighting for. We don't fight you when we will lose, or when there is no objective to fight you for. Everyone else does this. And if you just show up in order to say you showed up, you deserve the loss of your ships. So no, I don't think any FC in any alliance would show up somewhere they are out numbered and out gunned and let the enemy blow them up for some perceived need to "prove" themselves. I wouldn't fly with an FC like that.
The preceding statements are my own opinion, and not necisarily those of my corp or alliance
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Stamm
Amarr
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Posted - 2006.07.16 22:28:00 -
[111]
Originally by: SaorAlba Edited by: SaorAlba on 16/07/2006 22:18:37 Edited by: SaorAlba on 16/07/2006 22:18:09
Originally by: Cringeley Hahahahahaha.
Dude: Man, D2 and IRON are only bringing it on the forums. D2 and IRON Forum warriors: OH YEAH?!
I'm sorry, that's just very funny to me.
Small update for U forum warriors. Today all posses from Sparta were shot in reenforcement mode but two. We have seen no, repeat no, resistence at all. You see it don't mather what you type or think cause we simply role up our sleeves and jump you at the throat. Have a nice night and happy boosting Seeya all on the battlefield.
That's erm, scarily effective :)
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Dreiden Kisada
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2006.07.16 22:29:00 -
[112]
Originally by: Cain Fortea
The preceding statements are my own opinion, and not necisarily those of my corp or alliance
Damnit, wrong character. The preceding statements are my opionion. Not to be confused with anything official. |
Alois Zimmer
Gallente
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Posted - 2006.07.16 22:30:00 -
[113]
Originally by: Lorth
Well for one, I'm no longer in the conflict.
Yet you keep posting.
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Ishquar Teh'Sainte
Tri Optimum Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2006.07.16 23:13:00 -
[114]
Originally by: Andre Carnegi
Sparta's received a lot of support from us. They haven't folded yet, and we're not going to let them. Sparta still has sovereignty over its systems in deklein, and it's unlikely that they will lose sov. anytime soon. Unlike D2, we've stood by our allies.
well .. how long goes the conflict?? a few days is nothing to brag about ___________________
-Skellibjalla- Life is a garden of perceptions. Pick your fruit.
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DeadDuck
Amarr
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Posted - 2006.07.16 23:34:00 -
[115]
Originally by: Alois Zimmer
Originally by: Lorth
Well for one, I'm no longer in the conflict.
Yet you keep posting.
Why cant he post ?
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Aramark
Total Warehouse Logistics
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Posted - 2006.07.16 23:41:00 -
[116]
Originally by: DeadDuck
Originally by: Alois Zimmer
Originally by: Lorth
Well for one, I'm no longer in the conflict.
Yet you keep posting.
Why cant he post ?
cus i said no Deadduck pwnkat: Are you implying you are mean by nature and it requires conscious choice on your part to fight your nature and be nice? Aramark: yes |
DeadDuck
Amarr
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Posted - 2006.07.16 23:51:00 -
[117]
Originally by: Aramark cus i said no Deadduck
OK
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Soulis
Shinra Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.07.17 00:34:00 -
[118]
keep us updated!
Shinra - The Good Guys
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Lorth
Synchro.
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Posted - 2006.07.17 00:57:00 -
[119]
Originally by: Cain Fortea
Why present ourselves during a time that D2 is in primetime and we are not? I mean, this isn't a highschool pickup game of basketball where one captain has to take the short chubby kid because the other captain picked the clutz with coke bottle glasses. We fight you when we can win, or when there is an objective worth fighting for. We don't fight you when we will lose, or when there is no objective to fight you for. Everyone else does this. And if you just show up in order to say you showed up, you deserve the loss of your ships. So no, I don't think any FC in any alliance would show up somewhere they are out numbered and out gunned and let the enemy blow them up for some perceived need to "prove" themselves. I wouldn't fly with an FC like that.
The preceding statements are my own opinion, and not necisarily those of my corp or alliance
Well nice to see the clerification that Goons will not fight unless they are certain they will win.
I'm sure sparta will understand why you logged/left deklien tonight during the hour when you were the strongest. Which of course resulted in them having 18 POS's put into refenforced, as well as a whole wack of ships.
Justify not showing up all you want. But in the end the results will be simular to what occured this evening. And you'll be alone, with no allies that you havn't paid, because you simply won't show up. Thats 3/4 of the battle right there, simply being there.
But hey, you can hold your head up high now. As sparta falls, alone, and the 6 alliences you've managed to ally against you come down together. You'll have the privage of knowing that you made a smart tactical move in not fighting fights you weren't certain to win. Yay for you.
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Lorth
Synchro.
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Posted - 2006.07.17 01:00:00 -
[120]
Originally by: DeadDuck
Originally by: Alois Zimmer
Originally by: Lorth
Well for one, I'm no longer in the conflict.
Yet you keep posting.
Why cant he post ?
Actually through the very unlikely but rather funny occurances of events I know more then everyone about the whole situation.
I'd like to raise a beer to two people. A drunken goonfleet director who said way more then he should. And a disgruntaled X-Sparta leader who I have known in game for a long while. Not to mention the numerous friends I have in the ranks of D2.
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Truth Serum
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Posted - 2006.07.17 01:12:00 -
[121]
Originally by: Doragee
Originally by: Lorth
Ok then.... What happened last night?
Checking the available KB it was just another lost engagment for this unhealthy coalition of GS/SPR...as usual...
@ the goon posted before me: Checking these KB's (including your own!) i missed any GS engagment within the last week which was actually at least a stalemate or did help you in your progress. And btw.: I still miss some GS-losses made by myself on your KB.
Hi, can I please be a D2 alt to? Where can I apply?
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Amerame
Section XIII
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Posted - 2006.07.17 01:21:00 -
[122]
Edited by: Amerame on 17/07/2006 01:21:37
Originally by: Lorth Which of course resulted in them having 18 POS's put into refenforced, as well as a whole wack of ships.
I don't see DŠ being able to finish them up unless they ****** it with the strontium. Putting PoSes in reinforced is much much easier than destroying them, when you put them in reinforced, you fight on your terms, when you try to finish it, you fight on enemy's terms. DŠ has not been able to destroy Goon's PoS so far, why would they succeed detroying Sparta's PoS if goon help them ?
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Bitter Vet
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Posted - 2006.07.17 01:22:00 -
[123]
Originally by: Lorth
I'd like to raise a beer to two people. A drunken goonfleet director who said way more then he should. And a disgruntaled X-Sparta leader who I have known in game for a long while. Not to mention the numerous friends I have in the ranks of D2.
maybe you should go back to d2 since you post in every single thread about how much goon sucks and d2 rocks
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Truth Serum
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Posted - 2006.07.17 01:25:00 -
[124]
Originally by: Lorth
Well nice to see the clerification that Goons will not fight unless they are certain they will win.
You're going to pretend that D2 isn't as bad or wore in that department?
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Logan Williams
Super Nova Cartel
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Posted - 2006.07.17 01:28:00 -
[125]
Originally by: Andre Carnegi Edited by: Andre Carnegi on 16/07/2006 21:58:32
Originally by: Lorth
Originally by: Andre Carnegi
If you don't like the manner in which the war is being conducted, you should do what you can to change the terms of engagement. Asymetric warfare is not carried out by two parties "presenting" themselves on the battlefield according to somebody's narrow perspective. Complaining about it is just a sign that your enemies have a strategy you can't counter.
Well for one, I'm no longer in the conflict.
But as to your uber uncountrable stratagy. Lets ask sparta who have been left alone to the lions, what they think of it.
I stand by my assertion that you are supposed to present your self on the battle field. Goon's have willinly and openly allowed thier allies to become splintered and kill off one at a time. Good move.
Sparta's received a lot of support from us. They haven't folded yet, and we're not going to let them. Sparta still has sovereignty over its systems in deklein, and it's unlikely that they will lose sov. anytime soon. Unlike D2, we've stood by our allies.
Does "standing by your allies" include leaching NPC's out of their refinery system while they are camped in less than 3 jumps away?
If not, you may want to fill Fizzix in. He was having too much fun in UEJX-G, carelessly NPC'ing while his mates suffered.
Nice friends Sparta. They don't respect your rules for systems (UEJX = no NPC'ing or mining). What makes you think they respect you? |
Snowden Vel
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2006.07.17 01:38:00 -
[126]
If that's all you can think up to stir up trouble, you're really grasping at straws.
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Manion Taleroth
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2006.07.17 01:47:00 -
[127]
I'm very curious as to Alektorophobia's impetus. Is it because of the previous statement that you would counter MC's contracts or is it to fight alongside your ally Burn Eden? Probably both, but which one was the more inspiring factor?
Regardless I know that I will be glad to see you as friendly. Seeing previous hostiles become current allies has always been one of my favorite things in online games.
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Lorth
Synchro.
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Posted - 2006.07.17 01:48:00 -
[128]
Edited by: Lorth on 17/07/2006 01:49:23 No use argueing with alts. They know all.
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Lorth
Synchro.
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Posted - 2006.07.17 01:49:00 -
[129]
Originally by: Cringeley
Originally by: Lorth Well nice to see the clerification that Goons will not fight unless they are certain they will win.
That isn't what was said at all. Grow up.
Then please explain to me exactly what you ment? And why goons logged off, or just dissapeared leaving sparta alone today?
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AngryCanuk
TribalWar Inc
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Posted - 2006.07.17 01:58:00 -
[130]
Originally by: Amerame Edited by: Amerame on 17/07/2006 01:21:37
Originally by: Lorth Which of course resulted in them having 18 POS's put into refenforced, as well as a whole wack of ships.
I don't see DŠ being able to finish them up unless they ****** it with the strontium. Putting PoSes in reinforced is much much easier than destroying them, when you put them in reinforced, you fight on your terms, when you try to finish it, you fight on enemy's terms. DŠ has not been able to destroy Goon's PoS so far, why would they succeed detroying Sparta's PoS if goon help them ?
D2 destroyed 3 goon pos's in I-UU afew days ago over the course of a night.....
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Cringeley
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.17 02:12:00 -
[131]
Originally by: Lorth Then please explain to me exactly what you meant?
It should be pretty obvious that what we meant was that we, like you, do not throw our ships away except to achieve an objective. What Lunas seems to want is for us to log on specially in D2 primetime, with no objective to pursue, and file our ships slowly past his snipers so he can rack up killmails. D2 mostly don't come at us during our primetime. Why should we play differently?
It's especially lol because as others have mentioned D2 started the POS spam and now Lunas is complaining that goons have "lost all his respect" (yeah right, you should see what he says about us in local) because we are fighting a POS war that they started. We came in and put up just enough towers to go for sovereignty, and then D2 came and started spamming when it appeared their dreadnought attacks weren't going to break us instantly. Of course if they're spamming towers we have to match them, but we would have been extremely happy to go on having fleet engagements and cutting our teeth on dreadnoughts instead.
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Lorth
Synchro.
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Posted - 2006.07.17 02:14:00 -
[132]
To be fair, and honestly as nuetral as I can be.
No one should be blamed for starting, or engaging in a POS war(in really any conflict). Its the mechanics of the game, and easiest way to achieve an objective.
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Cringeley
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.17 02:16:00 -
[133]
Originally by: Lorth To be fair, and honestly as nuetral as I can be.
No one should be blamed for starting, or engaging in a POS war(in really any conflict). Its the mechanics of the game, and easiest way to achieve an objective.
I agree completely. I'm not annoyed that D2 played it that way, I'm annoyed that people like Lunas are trying to score off us for "POS spamming" when we didn't choose for the war to go that way.
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thedragoon
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.17 02:32:00 -
[134]
Originally by: Manion Taleroth I'm very curious as to Alektorophobia's impetus. Is it because of the previous statement that you would counter MC's contracts or is it to fight alongside your ally Burn Eden? Probably both, but which one was the more inspiring factor?
Regardless I know that I will be glad to see you as friendly. Seeing previous hostiles become current allies has always been one of my favorite things in online games.
Well we are here as a supporting force to goonies and sparta..
D2 want the good old days back with iron we are here to ensure that will not happen.
for the most part we are here to harass and delay while allowing sparta and goon to proceed with the next actions.
Mc will be here until there contract ends We will be here until D2 is gone or Sparta and goonfleet do not need us anylonger.
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Manion Taleroth
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2006.07.17 02:41:00 -
[135]
Originally by: thedragoon
Originally by: Manion Taleroth I'm very curious as to Alektorophobia's impetus. Is it because of the previous statement that you would counter MC's contracts or is it to fight alongside your ally Burn Eden? Probably both, but which one was the more inspiring factor?
Regardless I know that I will be glad to see you as friendly. Seeing previous hostiles become current allies has always been one of my favorite things in online games.
Well we are here as a supporting force to goonies and sparta..
D2 want the good old days back with iron we are here to ensure that will not happen.
for the most part we are here to harass and delay while allowing sparta and goon to proceed with the next actions.
Mc will be here until there contract ends We will be here until D2 is gone or Sparta and goonfleet do not need us anylonger.
If that's the case, you're invited to the next barbecue I throw. You have to get your own tickets to Texas, however.
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NATMav
F.R.E.E. Explorer EVE Animal Control
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Posted - 2006.07.17 03:39:00 -
[136]
Originally by: Amerame Edited by: Amerame on 17/07/2006 01:21:37
Originally by: Lorth Which of course resulted in them having 18 POS's put into refenforced, as well as a whole wack of ships.
I don't see DŠ being able to finish them up unless they ****** it with the strontium. Putting PoSes in reinforced is much much easier than destroying them, when you put them in reinforced, you fight on your terms, when you try to finish it, you fight on enemy's terms. DŠ has not been able to destroy Goon's PoS so far, why would they succeed detroying Sparta's PoS if goon help them ?
It would take every Goon and Sparta member to be able to recharge the shields on that many POS before D2 primetime comes around again. And unlike XZH, where Goons were fighting mostly D2, there are many more pilots in the US timezone when you throw in all the other corps allied with D2 now against Sparta.
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Truth Serum
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Posted - 2006.07.17 03:59:00 -
[137]
Originally by: NATMav
Originally by: Amerame Edited by: Amerame on 17/07/2006 01:21:37
Originally by: Lorth Which of course resulted in them having 18 POS's put into refenforced, as well as a whole wack of ships.
I don't see DŠ being able to finish them up unless they ****** it with the strontium. Putting PoSes in reinforced is much much easier than destroying them, when you put them in reinforced, you fight on your terms, when you try to finish it, you fight on enemy's terms. DŠ has not been able to destroy Goon's PoS so far, why would they succeed detroying Sparta's PoS if goon help them ?
It would take every Goon and Sparta member to be able to recharge the shields on that many POS before D2 primetime comes around again. And unlike XZH, where Goons were fighting mostly D2, there are many more pilots in the US timezone when you throw in all the other corps allied with D2 now against Sparta.
Yes, D2 certainly has a lt of slave corps, no denying that one.
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Dreiden Kisada
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2006.07.17 04:01:00 -
[138]
Originally by: Lorth Then please explain to me exactly what you ment?
I mean, that we fight to acheive objectives. Often times we will suicide our ships for our objectives. Which can include destroying the enemy fleet entirely, or breaking enough ships that they are no long combat effective as a unit. A delaying action, like camping gates...which may turn into an interdiction if there is enough support. Or, attacking the enemy where we have the advantage...their wallets. Our ships are cheap, theirs aren't. We lose 100 frigs, but blow up 3 t2 and faction fitted ships, then our objective is achieved.
However, just showing up to save face on the forums is not an objective. For two reasons:
A) They're forums. The real people making the real decisions has a much better picture of what is happening than what they read on the forums. B) It doesn't matter anyway. We could warp in with 2 caracals and an inty, and totally anihilate 20 BSes, and our enemies would say it was exploits, or lag, or they're so disgusting rich that they sleep on a bed made of BSes fitted with faction gear. whatever. We're used to it. Its been happening as long as i've been a member of Goonfleet.
I'm not saying that we only engage when 100% certain of victory. That would be silly, because no one is ever 100% certain. I would have thought that would be obvious. The preceding statements are my opionion. Not to be confused with anything official. |
Crellion
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Posted - 2006.07.17 05:01:00 -
[139]
Good luck to D2 from me just because I cant take all the alty posts in here that zmell Goonfleet.
[BTW Lunas and co we will be happy to see you pay us a yarrly visit of course once the tourney is over pls. Hmmmm ... if this Goon business takes too long we can come and help you and then once its over you can come and give us some fights perhaps? Like a week or two? <3 x-NBSI 4tw my <3 to MAZA]
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Jancen Sykes
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Posted - 2006.07.17 05:27:00 -
[140]
I don't see DŠ being able to finish them up unless they ****** it with the strontium. Putting PoSes in reinforced is much much easier than destroying them, when you put them in reinforced, you fight on your terms, when you try to finish it, you fight on enemy's terms. DŠ has not been able to destroy Goon's PoS so far, why would they succeed detroying Sparta's PoS if goon help them ?
That isnt actually right. We killed all 3 Goontowers in I-UU.
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NOObbody
The X-Trading Company Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2006.07.17 06:40:00 -
[141]
Originally by: Manion Taleroth I'm very curious as to Alektorophobia's impetus. Is it because of the previous statement that you would counter MC's contracts or is it to fight alongside your ally Burn Eden? Probably both, but which one was the more inspiring factor?
It is because Rem paid them for empire ganking.
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Atara Thalia
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2006.07.17 07:42:00 -
[142]
Edited by: Atara Thalia on 17/07/2006 07:43:55
Originally by: Logan Williams
Does "standing by your allies" include leaching NPC's out of their refinery system while they are camped in less than 3 jumps away?
If not, you may want to fill Fizzix in. He was having too much fun in UEJX-G, carelessly NPC'ing while his mates suffered.
Nice friends Sparta. They don't respect your rules for systems (UEJX = no NPC'ing or mining). What makes you think they respect you?
Hey, Dont forget about me. I was there too, blatently exploiting Sparta for their Gurista rats. Do you know how sick I am of shooting at Serpentis.
Seriously though, Fizzix came up with the same convoy as me that spent 4+ hours putting random POSes into reinforced. One time we had our battleships shooting at a POS when and the rest of us sitting camping one of the gates. There was an equal sized enemy force that was headed straight for us. We waited and waited, but this EQUALLY MATCHED force would never engage us, just run back and forth trying to find another way around us. We didnt even have our battleships there. At about 2 in the morning we wandered on over to CZD so most of our people could log off. Alot of us stayed up to try and fight the D2 + friends harassing people in that system but they seemed to be content with warping an eagle or other sniper in at 200km just to pop a frig then warp off. Since it became apparent that the only thing I was going to get in CZD was bored, I asked our Sparta people where I could go to rat and thats where they sent me. Noone ever mentioned anything about it being off limits. The only time I could get any D2 or ally to engage me that night was when I had switched over to ratting gear and had already wasted all my cap tanking a rat when I got jumped by 4 hostiles. The same thing happened in Syndicate a day or two earlier. A D2 gank squad came to town to try and cause trouble. They had no problems engaging people when they caught them one at a time, but when we and 3FA got together a similarly sized defense gang the only thing D2 would engage was their warp drives straight to their safespot where they waited until most of the gang got bored.
I have some mad respect for the D2 that have actually been giving us good even numbered fights, but most of the time even if we are looking to get killed D2 wont engage us unless they are positive they have a bigger fleet and can win. Some D2 are like a bad girlfriend, constantly leaving me with blue balls.
Edit: Post is kind long so I'll shorten it. D2 wouldn't give us the fight we were looking for so we went ratting. We didn't know UEJ was off limits, noone told us, and infact I'm pretty sure a high ranking sparta guy was the one who told us to go there.
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Doragee
Minmatar
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Posted - 2006.07.17 07:47:00 -
[143]
Reminds me badly at EVERY day i spend in S-U... --
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DeadDuck
Amarr
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Posted - 2006.07.17 09:42:00 -
[144]
Originally by: Atara Thalia
but most of the time even if we are looking to get killed D2 wont engage us unless they are positive they have a bigger fleet and can win.
OMG ... You just cant be serious ...
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Cmd Woodlouse
Cataclysm Enterprises Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2006.07.17 09:55:00 -
[145]
Originally by: Amerame Edited by: Amerame on 17/07/2006 01:21:37
Originally by: Lorth Which of course resulted in them having 18 POS's put into refenforced, as well as a whole wack of ships.
I don't see DŠ being able to finish them up unless they ****** it with the strontium. Putting PoSes in reinforced is much much easier than destroying them, when you put them in reinforced, you fight on your terms, when you try to finish it, you fight on enemy's terms. DŠ has not been able to destroy Goon's PoS so far, why would they succeed detroying Sparta's PoS if goon help them ?
We already destroyed 4 L Goon Posses, you are wrong informed. --------------------------------
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Cmd Woodlouse
Cataclysm Enterprises Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2006.07.17 10:08:00 -
[146]
Edited by: Cmd Woodlouse on 17/07/2006 10:09:04
Originally by: Atara Thalia
I have some mad respect for the D2 that have actually been giving us good even numbered fights, but most of the time even if we are looking to get killed D2 wont engage us unless they are positive they have a bigger fleet and can win. Some D2 are like a bad girlfriend, constantly leaving me with blue balls.
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL!!!!
You can even see on our kb for involved ppl in every fight (click the red "F") that this is exactly NOT the case nearly EVERY time.
Oh my god, please if you wanna lie SO blatantly come up with something better.
Unbelievable...
D2 wouldn't give us the fight we were looking for so we went ratting.
Erm, which fight are you looking for??? When you have 5 to 1 odds? Or more? And if conditions of a fight dont suit you, you stand by and watch 18 posses of your allies getting put into reinforce mode? --------------------------------
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Shimpu
Asgard Schiffswerften Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2006.07.17 10:22:00 -
[147]
Originally by: Andre Carnegi Edited by: Andre Carnegi on 16/07/2006 21:58:32
Originally by: Lorth
Originally by: Andre Carnegi
If you don't like the manner in which the war is being conducted, you should do what you can to change the terms of engagement. Asymetric warfare is not carried out by two parties "presenting" themselves on the battlefield according to somebody's narrow perspective. Complaining about it is just a sign that your enemies have a strategy you can't counter.
Well for one, I'm no longer in the conflict.
But as to your uber uncountrable stratagy. Lets ask sparta who have been left alone to the lions, what they think of it.
I stand by my assertion that you are supposed to present your self on the battle field. Goon's have willinly and openly allowed thier allies to become splintered and kill off one at a time. Good move.
Sparta's received a lot of support from us. They haven't folded yet, and we're not going to let them. Sparta still has sovereignty over its systems in deklein, and it's unlikely that they will lose sov. anytime soon. Unlike D2, we've stood by our allies.
That made my day. Seriously. Even when you consider that every post from either side in this conflict is influenced by their point of view these are cheap lies. Especially your support for them...
On a sidenote it's a pity to see an alliance die because they were fed with false promises and disinformation. Especially if it's because they trusted the lame Goons.
Originally by: Unknown Scout "ze scoud ffrom xzy, hSs a geighz aggdi...,eeeeeehhhmmmmm, somesing is jambing halt, sree hospitalized incoming." |
goze
GoonWaffe GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2006.07.17 16:01:00 -
[148]
Originally by: Cmd Woodlouse
You can even see on our kb for involved ppl in every fight (click the red "F") that this is exactly NOT the case nearly EVERY time.
It's been the case ever since you guys quit fighting in XZH. I've been pretty involved in the fighting, and D2 consistently avoids engagements unless they posses an overwhelmingly superior force, ie. a 2:1 ratio at the very least. Even then, they still use flighty sniper tactics, warping away any time a frigate gets within 50 km of their fleet.
I don't have any issues with your tactics, especially given the losses we've inflicted on you when we do lock you down with tacklers and force an engagement, but the chestbeating and baldfaced lying on the forums gets old.
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Laythun
ECP Rogues Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2006.07.17 16:16:00 -
[149]
^^ hey dude...
When were taking regions next to our home, were going to have numbers to lock down the gates/area, if u guys are gonna pesist in sending 20-30 peopel token force then what u want us to do? tell the people to log off until u been smacked down?
anyway, i done with this thread. let our actions speak.
Good Day.
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Gabriel BriGGs
Fate. Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2006.07.17 16:23:00 -
[150]
Wow, all this stuff is crap and it's funny to see people go nuts over it. I guses when you are out of the game for a few months you look at stuff like this and have a good laugh at the folks going goofy over it.
Hahaha.. Woodlouse and Lorth own this thread. Don't even bother posting anymore because those 2 are the most logical of all and you can't beat them, so honestly, stop it! I love them both <3
Anyways, I'm sure what's going on is a lot better then sitting around doing nothing, so trying to act tough that you are going off on D2 and it's their end, blah blah blah, doesn't mean much.. I'm sure they welcome it, since it's something to do... so shut up and play.
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Wrok
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.17 16:27:00 -
[151]
This should be intresting...no disrespect to D2 but its barely been a fight between goons and d2 goons will and have been winning...judgeing by the map of course...but thedragoon's boys are'nt push over and d2 will have thier hands full
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The Mittani
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2006.07.17 16:35:00 -
[152]
Originally by: Gabriel BriGGs
Hahaha.. Woodlouse and Lorth own this thread. Don't even bother posting anymore because those 2 are the most logical of all and you can't beat them, so honestly, stop it! I love them both <3
Originally by: Cmd Woodlouse LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL!!!!
You can even see on our kb for involved ppl in every fight (click the red "F") that this is exactly NOT the case nearly EVERY time.
Oh my god, please if you wanna lie SO blatantly come up with something better.
Unbelievable...
Unbelieveable, indeed.
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Atara Thalia
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2006.07.17 17:40:00 -
[153]
Originally by: Cmd Woodlouse
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL!!!!
You can even see on our kb for involved ppl in every fight (click the red "F") that this is exactly NOT the case nearly EVERY time.
Oh my god, please if you wanna lie SO blatantly come up with something better.
Unbelievable...
D2 wouldn't give us the fight we were looking for so we went ratting.
Erm, which fight are you looking for??? When you have 5 to 1 odds? Or more? And if conditions of a fight dont suit you, you stand by and watch 18 posses of your allies getting put into reinforce mode?
Hey, Im just telling you what it looks like from my perspective. The only combat I've seen from D2+friends in the past 3-4 days have been cheap ganks. Maybe I'm just not in the right area?
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Yazoul Samaiel
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Posted - 2006.07.17 18:17:00 -
[154]
Target Rich environment \o/
Gl to Goons and their allies , woody looks like u have a full deck now so GL also on that fight
@ Lunas LOOOOOOOL u realy dotn know when to zip it dont ya "What ever that doesn't Kill me just makes me stronger"
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NATMav
F.R.E.E. Explorer EVE Animal Control
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Posted - 2006.07.17 22:52:00 -
[155]
Welcome back Gabriel, we kept the place warm for ya.
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Ishquar Teh'Sainte
Tri Optimum Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2006.07.18 08:48:00 -
[156]
Originally by: Atara Thalia Edited by: Atara Thalia on 17/07/2006 07:43:55
Originally by: Logan Williams
Does "standing by your allies" include leaching NPC's out of their refinery system while they are camped in less than 3 jumps away?
If not, you may want to fill Fizzix in. He was having too much fun in UEJX-G, carelessly NPC'ing while his mates suffered.
Nice friends Sparta. They don't respect your rules for systems (UEJX = no NPC'ing or mining). What makes you think they respect you?
Hey, Dont forget about me. I was there too, blatently exploiting Sparta for their Gurista rats. Do you know how sick I am of shooting at Serpentis.
Seriously though, Fizzix came up with the same convoy as me that spent 4+ hours putting random POSes into reinforced. One time we had our battleships shooting at a POS when and the rest of us sitting camping one of the gates. There was an equal sized enemy force that was headed straight for us. We waited and waited, but this EQUALLY MATCHED force would never engage us, just run back and forth trying to find another way around us. We didnt even have our battleships there. At about 2 in the morning we wandered on over to CZD so most of our people could log off. Alot of us stayed up to try and fight the D2 + friends harassing people in that system but they seemed to be content with warping an eagle or other sniper in at 200km just to pop a frig then warp off. Since it became apparent that the only thing I was going to get in CZD was bored, I asked our Sparta people where I could go to rat and thats where they sent me. Noone ever mentioned anything about it being off limits. The only time I could get any D2 or ally to engage me that night was when I had switched over to ratting gear and had already wasted all my cap tanking a rat when I got jumped by 4 hostiles. The same thing happened in Syndicate a day or two earlier. A D2 gank squad came to town to try and cause trouble. They had no problems engaging people when they caught them one at a time, but when we and 3FA got together a similarly sized defense gang the only thing D2 would engage was their warp drives straight to their safespot where they waited until most of the gang got bored.
I have some mad respect for the D2 that have actually been giving us good even numbered fights, but most of the time even if we are looking to get killed D2 wont engage us unless they are positive they have a bigger fleet and can win. Some D2 are like a bad girlfriend, constantly leaving me with blue balls.
Edit: Post is kind long so I'll shorten it. D2 wouldn't give us the fight we were looking for so we went ratting. We didn't know UEJ was off limits, noone told us, and infact I'm pretty sure a high ranking sparta guy was the one who told us to go there.
i think your post is going in my direction also, because i was the scout who found you in the belt ... tbh - hunting while hostiles are around was ALWAYS a bad idea ... or did you forget that i was only 15minutes before you got ganked allready in local - looking for something?? when i left you started again to hunt ... so no sympathy from me ...
but props to the SPARTA gang that left their gatecamp in czd to help you ... you were damn fast .. but a bit too late at the place of action ..
atara, maybe you should have supported SPARTA at their gatecamp and not risking your ship when npcing ___________________
-Skellibjalla- Life is a garden of perceptions. Pick your fruit.
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Luke Skyrider
DAB RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2006.07.18 09:31:00 -
[157]
Edited by: Luke Skyrider on 18/07/2006 09:31:46
Originally by: Andre Carnegi Edited by: Andre Carnegi on 16/07/2006 21:58:32
Originally by: Lorth
Originally by: Andre Carnegi
If you don't like the manner in which the war is being conducted, you should do what you can to change the terms of engagement. Asymetric warfare is not carried out by two parties "presenting" themselves on the battlefield according to somebody's narrow perspective. Complaining about it is just a sign that your enemies have a strategy you can't counter.
Well for one, I'm no longer in the conflict.
But as to your uber uncountrable stratagy. Lets ask sparta who have been left alone to the lions, what they think of it.
I stand by my assertion that you are supposed to present your self on the battle field. Goon's have willinly and openly allowed thier allies to become splintered and kill off one at a time. Good move.
Sparta's received a lot of support from us. They haven't folded yet, and we're not going to let them. Sparta still has sovereignty over its systems in deklein, and it's unlikely that they will lose sov. anytime soon. Unlike D2, we've stood by our allies
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Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition
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Originally by: Andre Carnegi Sparta's received a lot of support from us. They haven't folded yet, and we're not going to let them. Sparta still has sovereignty over its systems in deklein, and it's unlikely that they will lose sov. anytime soon.
The map is already changing. There will be no Sparta or NFC POS's left in the key systems of Deklein when we leave the region.
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Zillazuki
The Flying Tigers
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Posted - 2006.07.18 11:21:00 -
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Originally by: Seleene
Originally by: Andre Carnegi Sparta's received a lot of support from us. They haven't folded yet, and we're not going to let them. Sparta still has sovereignty over its systems in deklein, and it's unlikely that they will lose sov. anytime soon.
The map is already changing. There will be no Sparta or NFC POS's left in the key systems of Deklein when we leave the region.
That is all.
We'll never let it happen! Over our dead bodies! Oh, wait...crap...well that sucks.
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Rizmordan Hillgotlieb
Gallente
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Posted - 2006.07.18 11:23:00 -
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Originally by: Seleene The map is already changing. There will be no Sparta or NFC POS's left in the key systems of Deklein when we leave the region.
That is all.
Have I told you lately Seleene that I love my job?
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Hans Roaming
Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2006.07.18 12:25:00 -
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Originally by: thedragoon We will be here until D2 is gone or Sparta and goonfleet do not need us anylonger.
I guess that time has come to pass.
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NOObbody
The X-Trading Company Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2006.07.18 12:35:00 -
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Originally by: Hans Roaming
Originally by: thedragoon We will be here until D2 is gone or Sparta and goonfleet do not need us anylonger.
I guess that time has come to pass.
IŠm sure GS will come to aid their allies immediately. Like we have seen in the last days...
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Shimpu
Asgard Schiffswerften Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2006.07.18 14:18:00 -
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Originally by: NOObbody
Originally by: Hans Roaming
Originally by: thedragoon We will be here until D2 is gone or Sparta and goonfleet do not need us anylonger.
I guess that time has come to pass.
IŠm sure GS will come to aid their allies immediately. Like we have seen in the last days...
They don't need to anymore. Sparta is gone. No more allies for goons in the north... I'm still puzzled how someone can rely and trust the goon horde and remedial.
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thedragoon
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.18 15:52:00 -
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Originally by: Hans Roaming
Originally by: thedragoon We will be here until D2 is gone or Sparta and goonfleet do not need us anylonger.
I guess that time has come to pass.
Well it is time's like this that you see what alliances are made of Sparta had alot of internal problems beyond mining PVP proved to be to much 1 day into my alliance moving into the area they Fell apart without loosing sov
1- the leader of sparta had RL issues and can no longer play the game again ( how many times we heard that as an alliance fall's )
Anyhow Aside from the set back for goonfleet we will be intesifying our raids into D2 space and falling back when needed to assist goonfleet.
our work in the north is not yet over if we can make a diffrence then we will continue to be here i see 1 of 2 things happening.
1 D2 lose further ground to Goonfleet and will fall apart leaving the north to continue to be a bloodbath FFA
2 D2 will push goon out and they will move back to s-u
What ever the outcome we will have fun and either way it makes no diffrece to us as long as there are explosions and targets to shoot.
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The Mittani
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2006.07.18 16:32:00 -
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Originally by: Various D2 forum warriors blaming Goons for SPARTA's fall
IŠm sure GS will come to aid their allies immediately. Like we have seen in the last days...
They don't need to anymore. Sparta is gone. No more allies for goons in the north... I'm still puzzled how someone can rely and trust the goon horde and remedial.
Obviously, SPARTA's fall is because the evil forces of the Swarm did nothing to help their new 'allies', and that the Swarm left SPARTA to hang in the wind before the wrath of D2. Right? Oh hay, what does this SPARTA mail say?
Quote: 2006.07.17 16:23
The reason I issued the alliance mail is because I joined a gang this morning to defend the station. There was 80+ alliance members on and 2(including myself) in the gang. The others in gang were Goons and Alek. Now when they asked why thre was only 2 Sparta in the gang I was embarrased. I tried to get more alliance involved but noone would join. They asked "So Sparta wants help against the odds but wont help themselves?".
And that about sums it up. It is sad but true. We have found Goons to be trustworthy and helpfull. They are helping in Dek while they have there own battles in OR and Fade. I cant imagine how I would feel if I were them. I would deffinately withdraw any support. It is too bad... I really liked alot of the guys in sparta who were active in Dek's defense. But after this morning,,, I cant look alliance chat without wanting to POD 95% of the pilots I see there. I apologize if my actions or words reflect poorly on the corp. But it is the sad truth. Our freinds are losing ships, time, and isk to help those not willing to help ourselves...
Those dastardly goons! How dare they! How dare Remedial! It's a SCANDAL, I tell you!
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IStra Tego
Gallente
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Posted - 2006.07.18 16:41:00 -
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Originally by: Shimpu They don't need to anymore. Sparta is gone. No more allies for goons in the north... I'm still puzzled how someone can rely and trust the goon horde and remedial.
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Ishquar Teh'Sainte
Tri Optimum Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2006.07.18 16:43:00 -
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Originally by: The Mittani
Those dastardly goons! How dare they! How dare Remedial! It's a SCANDAL, I tell you!
your alliance is meassured by it's own words .. plz read post #102 and #103 in this thread. ___________________
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Posted - 2006.07.18 16:43:00 -
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Originally by: thedragoon
our work in the north is not yet over if we can make a diffrence then we will continue to be here i see 1 of 2 things happening.
1 D2 lose further ground to Goonfleet and will fall apart leaving the north to continue to be a bloodbath FFA
2 D2 will push goon out and they will move back to s-u
What ever the outcome we will have fun and either way it makes no diffrece to us as long as there are explosions and targets to shoot.
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The Mittani
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Edited by: The Mittani on 18/07/2006 16:52:31
Originally by: Ishquar Teh'Sainte
Originally by: The Mittani
Those dastardly goons! How dare they! How dare Remedial! It's a SCANDAL, I tell you!
your alliance is meassured by it's own words .. plz read post #102 and #103 in this thread.
Quite so, dearie, quite so.
Originally by: Goons pledging to fight and die for SPARTA
"Sparta's received a lot of support from us. They haven't folded yet, and we're not going to let them. Sparta still has sovereignty over its systems in deklein, and it's unlikely that they will lose sov. anytime soon. Unlike D2, we've stood by our allies."
"Being that you are 'no longer in the conflict' it's good that you have the insight to say that Sparta has been 'left alone to the lions'. All of GoonSwarm is united in purpose, and that purpose is to make Sparta believe in a week or two from now that we are the best possible allies they could have asked for. How about instead of everyone talking about how Sparta is going to die, wait a week and see how far down the road you've gone to crushing Sparta. Not if the Swarm has anything to say about it."
And, as you can plainly see from the mail I posted above, the Swarm did indeed fight and die for SPARTA like the loyal allies we are.
Of course, half or more of SPARTA didn't fight and promptly fled to empire, begging for mercy from D2... but we are proud to have flown next to those Spartans who lived up to their name. Like I've said in another thread, we consider them brothers, and they will always have a home and shelter with us, unlike the others who get to enjoy Jita and Veldspar.
Edit: I hear that the veldspar is of a particularly sweet vintage this year, though!
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I spent 2 and a half days safespotted in Deklien trying to get into a gang big enough to do something it was pretty frustrating.
I think the only way we could have changed it to be honest is if we absolutely moved everything we had up there.
It seemed to me like a lot of the Sparta corps started leaving from day 1 and a lot more hung on the side lines staying out of it while they saw which way it was going to swing, leaving a dedicated smaller number who wanted to fight for their land.
I ended up feeling really sorry for some of the Sparta guys who clearly did want to fight, it seemed to be a lot of the same names I saw who were trying to make things happen, but just couldnt get anywhere near the numbers even with some of us up there.
I hope we can play a part in helping the guys who did stay to the end bounce back in the future.
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BuSHiDo ZiN
GoonWaffe GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2006.07.18 17:23:00 -
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Originally by: Ishquar Teh'Sainte
Originally by: The Mittani
Those dastardly goons! How dare they! How dare Remedial! It's a SCANDAL, I tell you!
your alliance is meassured by it's own words .. plz read post #102 and #103 in this thread.
As is yours, please read every post in previous threads where your members have claimed that Goonfleet would not be in XZH for more than a week
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PhannJodoxis
Minmatar
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Posted - 2006.07.18 17:27:00 -
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I was there every day and night after work as part of the forces that Sparta was able to field. Said Sparta forces diminished daily. Sparta's leadership refused to communicate with the member base causing even the good dedicated loyal members to get angry - some quit. More members of lessor principle continued to jumped ship. Eventually it was Sparta fielding 20 gang members at peak time and Goons bringing the rest.
Goons supported Sparta heavily. The logistics and odds were all obvious problems. Oh and of course those massive Sparta internal issues.
In the end Goons did not fail Sparta. Sparta failed the Goons.
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Nafri
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.18 17:31:00 -
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When leadership decides to turn against longtime friends without considering this which each membercorp, do you really expect any participation from those corps?
When I talked with most Sparta guys around CDZJ they werent really interested in fighting us and couldnt understand to what should lead it. They joined Sparta to have a relativly peacefull live in 0.0 and not to be somebodies meatshield. Dont expect them to field large fleets, when they arent really interested in it. For not keeping control of alliance in their hands, a lot of sparta corps payed a high price and lost a lot of money. A outpost and dozens of POS were lost without any real reason. People from Sparta command probably know that this could have found a better end, but things happened and nothing can be changed now.
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PhannJodoxis
Minmatar
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Posted - 2006.07.18 17:57:00 -
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Originally by: Nafri When leadership decides to turn against longtime friends without considering this which each membercorp, do you really expect any participation from those corps?
Yes, this is one of the many issues isnt it? I was just a regular old member of Sparta, but it is clear that Sparta Leadership, as in those who made The Decision, didnt do a whole array of things well or correcly.
They made a plan with Goons and allied with them for various reasons. Then Sparta failed to even remotely hold up their side of things. I dont believe the idea was that Goons would have there entire force in norther Dek 24/7 to help a soon to be horribly crippled Sparta, that would go from 1500 members at the start of it to like 500 in no time. Is this because so many in Sparta left, or just stay on the sidelines waiting to see what happens? Yes. And that demonstrates all the more how Sparta failed the Goons, and not the other way around.
Was it a foolish badly planned full of holes decision to began with?.. Sure, great and wise leaders (or even moderately level headed leaders) are not a dime a dozen. But the issue here is the fact that Goons were great allies, and I know they have earned my loyalty along with at least a few others of principle.
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Ishquar Teh'Sainte
Tri Optimum Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2006.07.18 18:13:00 -
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Originally by: BuSHiDo ZiN
Originally by: Ishquar Teh'Sainte
Originally by: The Mittani
Those dastardly goons! How dare they! How dare Remedial! It's a SCANDAL, I tell you!
your alliance is meassured by it's own words .. plz read post #102 and #103 in this thread.
As is yours, please read every post in previous threads where your members have claimed that Goonfleet would not be in XZH for more than a week
would you be please so kind and link me to all those posts ... after looking through 20+ pages i wasn't able to find these posts, but i got headache - though i found one by Gyro who wasn't at this time member of DŠ saying FSP and STV will kick the goonies butts before they can say "blob" ... so please would you help me find these posts?? thx in advance ___________________
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Posted - 2006.07.18 18:21:00 -
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sorry but i didnt see Goonfleet support you that badly like you try to tell us they did.
sure i wasnt their in goonfleets primetime but well... that what i have seen of the goons in deklein where a small fleet who wants to help you thats right. But the most hours a day i spent in shooting unarmed or small armed posses. from arround 10 posses there where only 2 well defended and 2 light defended.
The only significant thing i got noticed from goons was that they tried to attack branch ( they even failed with that ).
So its true goons tried to help you, but after i have seen what the goons can do just with there pure numbers and their imrpessive logistic in xzh.. i dont see that they really tried to help you, sorry. the only thing have noticed it that they used your station in deklein as an attackspot for branch.
but well its just my point of view of seeing goons in xzh and seeing goons in deklein ( oh and btw dont say that there where such great fights in CR and Syndicate because that where just small engagements who havnt need the whole goonfleet participating in it ).
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Octavios
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.18 18:26:00 -
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lol
2 alliances down
this is the best read ever, i dont even play the game anymore lol, i just read these forums and train my character
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SATAN
BURN EDEN
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Posted - 2006.07.18 18:55:00 -
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Frag stay out of our area...
Ours ALL ours, go find your own fish...
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Alois Zimmer
Gallente
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Posted - 2006.07.18 20:04:00 -
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Originally by: Shimpu
They don't need to anymore. Sparta is gone. No more allies for goons in the north... I'm still puzzled how someone can rely and trust the goon horde and remedial.
Nice Troll. I don't know what your problem is Shimpu, but could you stop trolling the forum? You don't like us, fine, but stop going around and posting flamebait in everything thread.
That being said, I wish the fighters of Sparta well.
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Masta Killa
BURN EDEN
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Posted - 2006.07.18 20:16:00 -
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Doctor Pod
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Posted - 2006.07.18 20:26:00 -
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Originally by: Nafri
When I talked with most Sparta guys around CDZJ they werent really interested in fighting
Shocking! If you arent an npc they dont hve much interest in fighting you.
Originally by: Nafri They joined Sparta to have a relativly peacefull live in 0.0
Which is exactly why they are all back in empire. 0.0 = fighting, if you cant fight for your space, you will lose it sooner or later
Originally by: Nafri not to be somebodies meatshield.
Unless they are D2's meatshield
You're whole post reflects why all these northern entities fall every few months. You make sure they are all weak and alligned with their mothers (d2). They never have the chance to become more than gank fodder. Good work again in the north. Let the next cycle of weak alliances begin.
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sinickal
Cataclysm Enterprises Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2006.07.18 20:55:00 -
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Originally by: Masta Killa BURN EDEN HAVE BEEN SPOTTED, EVERYONE LOG OUT!!!
who is burn eden? those with stucked heads in keyboards? (caps ftl)
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Dragerest
Total Warehouse Logistics
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Posted - 2006.07.18 21:12:00 -
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Originally by: sinickal
Originally by: Masta Killa BURN EDEN HAVE BEEN SPOTTED, EVERYONE LOG OUT!!!
who is burn eden? those with stucked heads in keyboards? (caps ftl)
burn eden is javelin torps remote sensor dampeners and wcs.
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Mandrake Knight
F.R.E.E. Explorer EVE Animal Control
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Posted - 2006.07.18 21:17:00 -
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Edited by: Mandrake Knight on 18/07/2006 21:18:42 So now that all the territory claiming hostiles are destroyed in Deklein, will you be leaving or sticking around?
Just curious is all.
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Masta Killa
BURN EDEN
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Posted - 2006.07.18 21:59:00 -
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Originally by: Dragerest
Originally by: sinickal
Originally by: Masta Killa BURN EDEN HAVE BEEN SPOTTED, EVERYONE LOG OUT!!!
who is burn eden? those with stucked heads in keyboards? (caps ftl)
burn eden is javelin torps remote sensor dampeners and wcs.
And you are a clueless noob.
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Aramark
Total Warehouse Logistics
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Posted - 2006.07.18 22:16:00 -
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Edited by: Aramark on 18/07/2006 22:21:40
Originally by: Masta Killa
Originally by: Dragerest
Originally by: sinickal
Originally by: Masta Killa BURN EDEN HAVE BEEN SPOTTED, EVERYONE LOG OUT!!!
who is burn eden? those with stucked heads in keyboards? (caps ftl)
burn eden is javelin torps remote sensor dampeners and wcs.
And you are a clueless noob.
Our corpname in your local makes you log out.
no it sounds like this over TS.. "burn eden in local...**** i don't have enough warp scarmblers" its a game, calm down. Aasia: Are you implying you are mean by nature and it requires conscious choice on your part to fight your nature and be nice? Aramark: yes |
Dinique
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.19 00:52:00 -
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Originally by: The Mittani
Originally by: Various D2 forum warriors blaming Goons for SPARTA's fall
IŠm sure GS will come to aid their allies immediately. Like we have seen in the last days...
They don't need to anymore. Sparta is gone. No more allies for goons in the north... I'm still puzzled how someone can rely and trust the goon horde and remedial.
Obviously, SPARTA's fall is because the evil forces of the Swarm did nothing to help their new 'allies', and that the Swarm left SPARTA to hang in the wind before the wrath of D2. Right?
Well, Goonies including directors (yourself even) have been going on and on about how you won't hang them out to dry and how you stand by your allies and so on and so forth. There were hardly any of you around, resistance in Deklein has been all but non-existant.
SPARTA is gone. And on Monday you were still going on about how strong you all are and how you are going to kick ass. Why didn't that happen? We put 12 POSes into re-inforced in a single night while our support fleet fell asleep at the gates.
Atleast I get to chuckle as I go back and read posts by the likes of Stahl-I-cant-remember-the-rest-of-your-name now :) _____
There's so many different worlds So many different suns And we have just one world But we live in different ones
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Dinique
Caldari
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Edited by: Dinique on 19/07/2006 00:52:46 stupid bloody forum software _____
There's so many different worlds So many different suns And we have just one world But we live in different ones
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Dinique
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.19 01:02:00 -
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Originally by: Masta Killa BURN EDEN HAVE BEEN SPOTTED, EVERYONE LOG OUT!!!
D2 PILOTS UNDOCKED IN BKG RUN AWAAAAY
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There's so many different worlds So many different suns And we have just one world But we live in different ones
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Posted - 2006.07.19 01:21:00 -
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Edited by: CrestoftheStars on 19/07/2006 01:22:16 Actually quite a few of us were there.
I remember on the first night that the NAP was announced we went up to Deklien with a 90 man gang, with another 20 goons or something already up there.
I logged out in my raven in CDZ with the idea that for the next few days I would simply join in whatever Sparta defense gang was going on. Unfortunately there werent any .
The next few days I spent sat in a safe spot bored out my mind while the same few Sparta guys from the same few corps tried make a defense effort, but it always ended them plus a couple of dozen goons sat safespotted because D2 had the system locked down.
I eventually suicided my raven out of boredom :v
As far as I know Sparta never announced a rally time for a really big defense op when their POS started getting hit hard. I think if Sparta had said that all their POS were being attacked and they were going to do a giant defense effort on a night and engage the D2 dreads then we would have definitely formed up a decent reinforcement fleet in XZH and sped up to get involved in that.
Like I said, I felt sorry for the Sparta who obviously wanted to try and fight for their territory but couldnÆt persuade most of their corps to commit to fighting. They all seemed nice guys on TS too, it was a shame. It just felt like the whole Deklien thing was over before it even begun.
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Bavarian Punk
Minmatar
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Posted - 2006.07.19 01:32:00 -
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Edited by: Bavarian Punk on 19/07/2006 01:33:14
Originally by: CrestoftheStars Edited by: CrestoftheStars on 19/07/2006 01:22:16 I logged out in my raven in CDZ with the idea that for the next few days I would simply join in whatever Sparta defense gang was going on. Unfortunately there werent any .
And now guess why. Because most of them didn't want to fight their true friends as much as we didn't enjoy fighting them. And one goon even dared to call them "brothers", obviously lacking any knowledge of Sparta's history and stronger bonds that have developed between Sparta pilots and D2 pilots. A few idiots in their lead don't change that overnight. ---
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Calenth
Amarr
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Posted - 2006.07.19 01:40:00 -
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Edited by: Calenth on 19/07/2006 01:43:58 Edited by: Calenth on 19/07/2006 01:43:31 Edited by: Calenth on 19/07/2006 01:42:08
Originally by: Nafri When leadership decides to turn against longtime friends without considering this which each membercorp, do you really expect any participation from those corps?
When I talked with most Sparta guys around CDZJ they werent really interested in fighting us and couldnt understand to what should lead it. They joined Sparta to have a relativly peacefull live in 0.0 and not to be somebodies meatshield. Dont expect them to field large fleets, when they arent really interested in it. For not keeping control of alliance in their hands, a lot of sparta corps payed a high price and lost a lot of money. A outpost and dozens of POS were lost without any real reason. People from Sparta command probably know that this could have found a better end, but things happened and nothing can be changed now.
Eh, I don't really see how things could have worked out any differently for SPARTA, no matter what choices the leadership made, given their general reluctance to fight. IRON and FLA had already planned to use the Mercenary Coalition against Sparta even if Sparta hadn't allied with Goonfleet, as those chatlogs published the other day revealed, and D2 had already refused to help Sparta defend themselves despite Sparta's willingness to help d2 in combat ops (ironically, against GoonSwarm).
So Sparta was really caught between a rock and a hard place. Either way they were going to have to fight several dedicated PvP alliances. By allying with us in Goonswarm, they at least got an ally who was willing to, and in fact did, commit significant fleets to their aid -- something d2, their titular former friends, were unwilling to do. But a lot of people just aren't willing to fight for what they want in this game, and unfortunately those Sparta who were willing to fight got deserted -- first by D2, and secondly by their erstwhile fellow alliance members.
Originally by: Bavarian Punk
And now guess why. Because most of them didn't want to fight their true friends as much as we didn't enjoy fighting them. And one goon even dared to call them "brothers" in a previous post, obviously lacking any knowledge of Sparta's history and stronger bonds that have developed between Sparta pilots and D2 pilots. A few idiots in their lead don't change that overnight.
If d2 had been "true friends" against Sparta, d2 would not have tolerated IRON and FLA's aggression against Sparta. You can argue particulars of the various agreements and contracts involved, but when it came down to shooting, d2 was content to let IRON push Sparta out of Deklein. Some "true friends."
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Bavarian Punk
Minmatar
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Posted - 2006.07.19 01:55:00 -
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Edited by: Bavarian Punk on 19/07/2006 01:56:16 Oh yeah, regarding the myth that we betrayed Sparta because we didn't help them: It's been said before but it doesn't seem to get in bee's heads. Which side should D2 have chosen? IRON? FLA? NFC? Sparta? THEY WERE ALL BLUE GODDAMMIT! D2 was more than unhappy with those parties going to war against eachother but there was nothing that could have possibly been done on D2's side apart from trying to settle this on a diplomatic level. And trust me, D2's diplomats were trying everything they could to deescalate the situation. Given the parties involved, it was impossible for D2 to choose a side. Funny thing is, that unlike you, most of the Sparta pilots know, understand and respect the dilemma that D2 found itself in with this war amongst friends. ---
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Cringeley
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.19 02:01:00 -
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Originally by: Bavarian Punk Edited by: Bavarian Punk on 19/07/2006 01:56:16 Oh yeah, regarding the myth that we betrayed Sparta because we didn't help them: It's been said before but it doesn't seem to get in bee's heads. Which side should D2 have chosen? IRON? FLA? NFC? Sparta? THEY WERE ALL BLUE GODDAMMIT! D2 was more than unhappy with those parties going to war against eachother but there was nothing that could have possibly been done on D2's side apart from trying to settle this on a diplomatic level. And trust me, D2's diplomats were trying everything they could to deescalate the situation. Given the parties involved, it was impossible for D2 to choose a side. Funny thing is, that unlike you, most of the Sparta pilots know, understand and respect the dilemma that D2 found itself in with this war amongst friends.
You could have refused to remain blue with any of your friends who aggressed against other friends. If I have two friends who are sharing a pie, and one friend starts punching the other friend in the face to get a bigger share of the pie, I am not being a friend to the victim if I say "hey, you guys sort this out between yourselves, I'm friends with both of you". Also it's well known that you were allowing IRON to stage dreadnoughts out of your stations (that's where we blew two of them up).
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Posted - 2006.07.19 02:03:00 -
[195]
Originally by: Bavarian Punk
Funny thing is, that unlike you, most of the Sparta pilots know, understand and respect the dilemma that D2 found itself in with this war amongst friends.
Sad thing is you allowed it to happen.
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Calenth
Amarr
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Posted - 2006.07.19 02:07:00 -
[196]
Originally by: Cringeley You could have refused to remain blue with any of your friends who aggressed against other friends. If I have two friends who are sharing a pie, and one friend starts punching the other friend in the face to get a bigger share of the pie, I am not being a friend to the victim if I say "hey, you guys sort this out between yourselves, I'm friends with both of you". Also it's well known that you were allowing IRON to stage dreadnoughts out of your stations (that's where we blew two of them up).
Yeah, the fact that IRON was using d2 stations to stage their dreads really shows exactly how neutral d2 was. But to follow on to Cringeley's analogy: I think every corporation in the game has a basic rule that if one member shoots at another member, for any reason, without clearing it with the corporate directors, the aggressive member gets disciplined and/or booted. What's good policy at a corporate level is good policy at the alliance level, too, and the failure to enforce such a basic policy shows exactly how much d2 valued their "true friends" in Sparta.
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FotoFlame
E X O D U S Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2006.07.19 02:27:00 -
[197]
Originally by: Calenth IRON and FLA had already planned to use the Mercenary Coalition against Sparta even if Sparta hadn't allied with Goonfleet, as those chatlogs published the other day revealed,
You're either incredibly misinformed or just plain dense.
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Calenth
Amarr
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Posted - 2006.07.19 02:35:00 -
[198]
Originally by: FotoFlame
Originally by: Calenth IRON and FLA had already planned to use the Mercenary Coalition against Sparta even if Sparta hadn't allied with Goonfleet, as those chatlogs published the other day revealed,
You're either incredibly misinformed or just plain dense.
~Foto
Eh, the chatlogs are on these forums somewhere (I can't remember the thread) but they're there. Anyone can read them, and the conclusions aren't too hard to draw.
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Shyalud
Chosen Path Center for Disease Creation
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Posted - 2006.07.19 02:37:00 -
[199]
Be sure to add cDc to your -ve list as you are on ours. cDc will back our allies and welcome the new targets.
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Ceratin
Euphoria Released
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Posted - 2006.07.19 02:38:00 -
[200]
Originally by: Nafri not to be somebodies meatshield.
Originally by: Doctor Pod Unless they are D2's meatshield
ER is d2's only meatshield, and we like our job thankyou very much :) ------------ - All Hail, Leader of The Pod Brigade |
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Miram Teldarin
Lightning Dynamics GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2006.07.19 02:57:00 -
[201]
Originally by: Shyalud Be sure to add cDc to your -ve list as you are on ours. cDc will back our allies and welcome the new targets.
Back our allies? Until a bigger group comes by you can sell out to?
ERA loved the backing you provided. Are you making enough silver in D2 now Judas? Miram Teldarin
For the Swarm!
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FotoFlame
E X O D U S Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2006.07.19 03:02:00 -
[202]
Edited by: FotoFlame on 19/07/2006 03:03:34
Originally by: Calenth
Eh
At your observations generally. If anything there was a reluctance to goto war with Sparta because of a well known agreement we had made with them. Even after they had merged with the NFC and taken temporary control of lower dek it took a couple of more convo's before they left us no choice.
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Truth Serum
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Posted - 2006.07.19 04:52:00 -
[203]
Originally by: Shyalud cDc will back our allies
Your allies are whomever is strongest at the time.
for shame
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Vile rat
Amarr
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Posted - 2006.07.19 05:27:00 -
[204]
Originally by: Shyalud Be sure to add cDc to your -ve list as you are on ours. cDc will back our allies and welcome the new targets.
This is a special kind of funny.
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Alctel Prime
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2006.07.19 06:19:00 -
[205]
Edited by: Alctel Prime on 19/07/2006 06:20:50
Originally by: Ceratin
Originally by: Nafri not to be somebodies meatshield.
Originally by: Doctor Pod Unless they are D2's meatshield
ER is d2's only meatshield, and we like our job thankyou very much :)
Quoting this, because whenever we engage D2 it always seems to be E-R leading the charge. You guys are really on the wrong side! :)
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Jancen Sykes
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Posted - 2006.07.19 06:39:00 -
[206]
Edited by: Jancen Sykes on 19/07/2006 06:40:58
Originally by: Calenth
Yeah, the fact that IRON was using d2 stations to stage their dreads really shows exactly how neutral d2 was.
Well until a special event happened, sparta and NFC where also allowed to dock on our Stations. So every side had gain the same from us.
Or do you want to blame ISS now too that they arnt neutral because your enemys can dock there too?
And dont you guys forget something about this? The first war was between FLA+Iron against NFC+OPus. As far as i know DŠ talked with Iron and Sparta that sparta keep neutral in this conflict and for that they wont get attacked by Iron.
After this War was ofer and NFC disbanded and The most NFC Corps joined Sparta immideatly claiming their old region, now owned by Iron back. so if you be exact Sparta agressed iron.
well i think it doesnt even matter what ever we had done. It had be the wrong course of action so or so, just because you Goonguys need some new food propagandamaschin filled with half-truth and missinformations.
A wait there is a post from you wich got my attention. You guys state that you know that the IRON-Dreads could dock at our station because you guys killed 2 of them while the others docked. You refer in this sentence the time before we set Sparta to -10 ( if not he didnt even had to mention it ) thats quit interesting.
and now have fun to take this post apart with your own "interpretations ".
Edit: @ Shyalud: sorry i dont get your post. Just tell me on wich side you are fighting now so that i know if i have to by more ammo or not... oh.. wait... iam Amarr.. i even dont need ammo. well nevermind it then.
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Luthien Firefoot
Synergy. Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2006.07.19 07:41:00 -
[207]
Edited by: Luthien Firefoot on 19/07/2006 07:44:12
Signature removed - Too wide.Laurelin |
Luthien Firefoot
Synergy. Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2006.07.19 07:42:00 -
[208]
Originally by: Calenth
Originally by: Cringeley You could have refused to remain blue with any of your friends who aggressed against other friends. If I have two friends who are sharing a pie, and one friend starts punching the other friend in the face to get a bigger share of the pie, I am not being a friend to the victim if I say "hey, you guys sort this out between yourselves, I'm friends with both of you". Also it's well known that you were allowing IRON to stage dreadnoughts out of your stations (that's where we blew two of them up).
Yeah, the fact that IRON was using d2 stations to stage their dreads really shows exactly how neutral d2 was. But to follow on to Cringeley's analogy: I think every corporation in the game has a basic rule that if one member shoots at another member, for any reason, without clearing it with the corporate directors, the aggressive member gets disciplined and/or booted. What's good policy at a corporate level is good policy at the alliance level, too, and the failure to enforce such a basic policy shows exactly how much d2 valued their "true friends" in Sparta.
Why does D2 or IRON or anyone else need or want to answer to you, or anyone from your blobbing, lag creating alliance. Go nap ASCN or sumthing, doh too late nubcake...
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Nafri
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.19 07:43:00 -
[209]
Edited by: Nafri on 19/07/2006 07:43:46
Originally by: Ceratin
Originally by: Nafri not to be somebodies meatshield.
Originally by: Doctor Pod Unless they are D2's meatshield
ER is d2's only meatshield, and we like our job thankyou very much :)
Im meatshield myself, the good part about beeing meathshield is that you get the most fun
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Fred0
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Posted - 2006.07.19 08:35:00 -
[210]
Originally by: Cringeley You could have refused to remain blue with any of your friends who aggressed against other friends. If I have two friends who are sharing a pie, and one friend starts punching the other friend in the face to get a bigger share of the pie, I am not being a friend to the victim if I say "hey, you guys sort this out between yourselves, I'm friends with both of you". Also it's well known that you were allowing IRON to stage dreadnoughts out of your stations (that's where we blew two of them up).
That rl analogy does not hold up. The conflict was not that one sided and you're trying to act overly naive to paint D2 bad.
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Deja Thoris
Contraband Inc. Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2006.07.19 10:03:00 -
[211]
Wait!
Isn't this thread about Alektraphobia?
It's the first time I've fought them and since their first stated goal in thedragoons post was to "Counter any threat of MC in the area" I'd say you failed totally.
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Puke
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Posted - 2006.07.19 10:23:00 -
[212]
Originally by: Deja Thoris Wait!
Isn't this thread about Alektraphobia?
It's the first time I've fought them and since their first stated goal in thedragoons post was to "Counter any threat of MC in the area" I'd say you failed totally.
I agree!
It appears Alektrobeatourchests are too scared to venture out of Pure Blind. Most of our losses to them are found there or just inside Fade.
One daring Alektrowegotabigego actually killed an IRON crow in CCP but no other sightings of this almighty alliance causing any grief to IRON or D2 inside friendly space.
If you change "Counter any threat of MC in the area" to "Gank what we can in Pure Blind like any old common garden pirate gang" then sure you succeded. Congrats!
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Alaesa
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Posted - 2006.07.19 10:24:00 -
[213]
Alektrophobia Alliance Moves to the north target D2,Iron ....
.... and spends all its time in deep safe spots cycling over and over again
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thedragoon
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.19 10:35:00 -
[214]
Originally by: Puke
Originally by: Deja Thoris Wait!
Isn't this thread about Alektraphobia?
It's the first time I've fought them and since their first stated goal in thedragoons post was to "Counter any threat of MC in the area" I'd say you failed totally.
I agree!
It appears Alektrobeatourchests are too scared to venture out of Pure Blind. Most of our losses to them are found there or just inside Fade.
One daring Alektrowegotabigego actually killed an IRON crow in CCP but no other sightings of this almighty alliance causing any grief to IRON or D2 inside friendly space.
If you change "Counter any threat of MC in the area" to "Gank what we can in Pure Blind like any old common garden pirate gang" then sure you succeded. Congrats!
We moved into Roir to stage from the bulk of our alliance had not even reached the staging point before sparta fell.
We had forces in Czd but because sparta had no forces my euro's and us playeres were split leaving me with 3 fleets and 100 man blobs either side ......
We engaged bob mc and iron and did a pretty good job did MC deploy there dredds anyware infact no looking at the MC killbord there kills were all around this area as well...
So now goons in xzh we will be helping there continuing effort in that area
We can not defend or help defend an allie that refuses to help themselves We do not have the blobs of MC Blob D2 FLA Iron combined and would never be able to stop an advance of that kind if the allie we are helping will not fight As i have said before we are here to help and assist where we can now that there is not any 0 sec space to attempt to defend of our allies we are off a leash watch this space.
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Seleene
Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2006.07.19 10:50:00 -
[215]
Originally by: thedragoon We engaged bob mc and iron and did a pretty good job did MC deploy there dredds anyware infact no looking at the MC killbord there kills were all around this area as well...
Why deploy dreads when the POS's we're supposed to be blowing up keep getting torn down, abandoned or switching alliances?
TBH, we've seen very little of you, or anyone else for that matter. Hell, Dek seems to alternate between swarming with targets for a couple hours to absolute silence the rest of the day.
Anyway, we'll be moving out soon due to the fact that there really isn't an enemy up here for us to fight anymore. Quite disappointing, actually.
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thedragoon
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.19 10:56:00 -
[216]
Originally by: Seleene
Originally by: thedragoon We engaged bob mc and iron and did a pretty good job did MC deploy there dredds anyware infact no looking at the MC killbord there kills were all around this area as well...
Why deploy dreads when the POS's we're supposed to be blowing up keep getting torn down, abandoned or switching alliances?
TBH, we've seen very little of you, or anyone else for that matter. Hell, Dek seems to alternate between swarming with targets for a couple hours to absolute silence the rest of the day.
Anyway, we'll be moving out soon due to the fact that there really isn't an enemy up here for us to fight anymore. Quite disappointing, actually.
I agree with you there was no point in deploying dredds I was not saying you should have just giving the reason why we were not into dek that much what is the point of defending an alliance that refused to fight,...
i agree with you its been very disappointing you and i both being the figure heads of 2 alliances know what it is like when your guys get a lack of action ppl get bored and then the female side of them comes out.
so i was not calling you your alliance or your efforts up here i was just saying that there was no need for either of us to be here.....
Hope that clears that up ?
Thanks goon
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Puke
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Posted - 2006.07.19 10:58:00 -
[217]
Originally by: thedragoon
Originally by: Puke
Originally by: Deja Thoris Wait!
Isn't this thread about Alektraphobia?
It's the first time I've fought them and since their first stated goal in thedragoons post was to "Counter any threat of MC in the area" I'd say you failed totally.
I agree!
It appears Alektrobeatourchests are too scared to venture out of Pure Blind. Most of our losses to them are found there or just inside Fade.
One daring Alektrowegotabigego actually killed an IRON crow in CCP but no other sightings of this almighty alliance causing any grief to IRON or D2 inside friendly space.
If you change "Counter any threat of MC in the area" to "Gank what we can in Pure Blind like any old common garden pirate gang" then sure you succeded. Congrats!
We moved into Roir to stage from the bulk of our alliance had not even reached the staging point before sparta fell.
We had forces in Czd but because sparta had no forces my euro's and us playeres were split leaving me with 3 fleets and 100 man blobs either side ......
We engaged bob mc and iron and did a pretty good job did MC deploy there dredds anyware infact no looking at the MC killbord there kills were all around this area as well...
So now goons in xzh we will be helping there continuing effort in that area
We can not defend or help defend an allie that refuses to help themselves We do not have the blobs of MC Blob D2 FLA Iron combined and would never be able to stop an advance of that kind if the allie we are helping will not fight As i have said before we are here to help and assist where we can now that there is not any 0 sec space to attempt to defend of our allies we are off a leash watch this space.
I thought that you were supposed to be like the space police. Going around righting wrongs.
It now seems you just have a vendetta in the north as Darko snubbed you way back when.
What is your reasoning for going to help the goons in XZH? It just seems like you pop up were all the news is at currently make a big bold post and then we see nothing of you guys in the game. When we do you stab it out of there.
You remind me of those guys on telly who jump around in the background of the news when the reporter is on location. Just Joe public trying to make a name for himself
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thedragoon
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.19 11:06:00 -
[218]
Originally by: Puke
Originally by: thedragoon
Originally by: Puke
Originally by: Deja Thoris Wait!
Isn't this thread about Alektraphobia?
It's the first time I've fought them and since their first stated goal in thedragoons post was to "Counter any threat of MC in the area" I'd say you failed totally.
I agree!
It appears Alektrobeatourchests are too scared to venture out of Pure Blind. Most of our losses to them are found there or just inside Fade.
One daring Alektrowegotabigego actually killed an IRON crow in CCP but no other sightings of this almighty alliance causing any grief to IRON or D2 inside friendly space.
If you change "Counter any threat of MC in the area" to "Gank what we can in Pure Blind like any old common garden pirate gang" then sure you succeded. Congrats!
We moved into Roir to stage from the bulk of our alliance had not even reached the staging point before sparta fell.
We had forces in Czd but because sparta had no forces my euro's and us playeres were split leaving me with 3 fleets and 100 man blobs either side ......
We engaged bob mc and iron and did a pretty good job did MC deploy there dredds anyware infact no looking at the MC killbord there kills were all around this area as well...
So now goons in xzh we will be helping there continuing effort in that area
We can not defend or help defend an allie that refuses to help themselves We do not have the blobs of MC Blob D2 FLA Iron combined and would never be able to stop an advance of that kind if the allie we are helping will not fight As i have said before we are here to help and assist where we can now that there is not any 0 sec space to attempt to defend of our allies we are off a leash watch this space.
I thought that you were supposed to be like the space police. Going around righting wrongs.
It now seems you just have a vendetta in the north as Darko snubbed you way back when.
What is your reasoning for going to help the goons in XZH? It just seems like you pop up were all the news is at currently make a big bold post and then we see nothing of you guys in the game. When we do you stab it out of there.
You remind me of those guys on telly who jump around in the background of the news when the reporter is on location. Just Joe public trying to make a name for himself
1 - last time we were in the north as a full alliance we took 3jn for fla and brokered the cease fire at that time so to say we do nothing is a very wrong statment and shows that you have no clue what you are talking about.
2nd We are often in hot zones because we like to pvp and why the hell not be ?
3rd i assume you are an alt i have not looked ingame at your details we have a long standing relationship with BE.Smash who are helping the goons so we are doing what other alliances refuse to do and helping the people we have as + i dont see why you would be so upset about this but not knowing what the reason behind us being here leads to bad Flame because you dont try to find out or ask before you shoot your mouth . making you look stupid thus the reason for an alt post.
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TWD
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Posted - 2006.07.19 11:15:00 -
[219]
Thedragoon / Alektorophobia is a joke. Why some people take this alliance/person serious, I have no clue. |
thedragoon
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.19 11:22:00 -
[220]
Originally by: TWD Thedragoon / Alektorophobia is a joke. Why some people take this alliance/person serious, I have no clue.
who are you
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Emno
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.19 11:24:00 -
[221]
Originally by: thedragoon 1 - last time we were in the north as a full alliance we took 3jn for fla and brokered the cease fire at that time so to say we do nothing is a very wrong statment and shows that you have no clue what you are talking about.
you beat an nfc blob go you! we seem to have done the same thing in half the time...
Originally by: thedragoon 2nd We are often in hot zones because we like to run away and why the hell not be ?
yes
Originally by: thedragoon 3rd i assume you are an alt i havbee not looked ingame at your details we have a long standing relationship with BE.Smash who are helping the goons so we are doing what other alliances refuse to do and helping the people we have as + i dont see why you would be so upset about this but not knowing what the reason behind us being here leads to bad Flame because you dont try to find out or ask before you shoot your mouth . making you look stupid thus the reason for an alt post.
your whole thing here is whining he's an alt.
he's not btw
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Tozmeister
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.19 11:27:00 -
[222]
Originally by: Puke
Originally by: Deja Thoris Wait!
Isn't this thread about Alektraphobia?
It's the first time I've fought them and since their first stated goal in thedragoons post was to "Counter any threat of MC in the area" I'd say you failed totally.
I agree!
It appears Alektrobeatourchests are too scared to venture out of Pure Blind. Most of our losses to them are found there or just inside Fade.
One daring Alektrowegotabigego actually killed an IRON crow in CCP but no other sightings of this almighty alliance causing any grief to IRON or D2 inside friendly space.
If you change "Counter any threat of MC in the area" to "Gank what we can in Pure Blind like any old common garden pirate gang" then sure you succeded. Congrats!
then my congrats to IRON who did achieve the dizzy heights of being "any old common or garden pirate gang" in PB for an entire month before you declared war on NFC(RIP).
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thedragoon
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.19 11:36:00 -
[223]
Originally by: Emno
Originally by: thedragoon 1 - last time we were in the north as a full alliance we took 3jn for fla and brokered the cease fire at that time so to say we do nothing is a very wrong statment and shows that you have no clue what you are talking about.
you beat an nfc blob go you! we seem to have done the same thing in half the time...
Originally by: thedragoon 2nd We are often in hot zones because we like to run away and why the hell not be ?
yes
Originally by: thedragoon 3rd i assume you are an alt i havbee not looked ingame at your details we have a long standing relationship with BE.Smash who are helping the goons so we are doing what other alliances refuse to do and helping the people we have as + i dont see why you would be so upset about this but not knowing what the reason behind us being here leads to bad Flame because you dont try to find out or ask before you shoot your mouth . making you look stupid thus the reason for an alt post.
your whole thing here is whining he's an alt.
he's not btw
If he is not an alt then it makes it even worse that he has noclue what is going on.
when we beat the NFC blob it was us be and Fla MAin force being us.. When you beat them you had MC,Iron,FLA,D2,Free,MM,bob, good achivement O and i almost forgot they did not fight back neither did you take any sov from them before they disbaned Welldone you are truley uber
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Emno
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.19 11:42:00 -
[224]
Originally by: thedragoon
when we beat the NFC blob it was us be and Fla MAin force being us.. When you beat them you had MC,Iron,FLA,D2,Free,MM,bob,
mc got their after nfc died ;/ d2 was sparta free are never sober so they don't count other two just lol tbh
Originally by: thedragoon good achivement O and i almost forgot they did not fight back neither did you take any sov from them before they disbaned Welldone you are truley uber
why thank you
it's ok to cry that we beat them 957 times better then you btw
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TWD
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Posted - 2006.07.19 11:45:00 -
[225]
Originally by: thedragoon
Originally by: TWD Thedragoon / Alektorophobia is a joke. Why some people take this alliance/person serious, I have no clue.
who are you
If you don't know who I am then thats your problem.
I'm pointing out that you're a joke.
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Luthien Firefoot
Synergy. Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2006.07.19 11:45:00 -
[226]
As Bio wud say alektrothingywhat ?
You've spent all your time either ganking solos, running away or Hiding and getting ****ted by Bob in ROIR.
You have not lived up to the grandeur your post promised.
In fact, you remind me of last years US grand prix, it didn't really happen either did it.... Signature removed - Too wide.Laurelin |
Luthien Firefoot
Synergy. Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2006.07.19 12:00:00 -
[227]
Originally by: thedragoon
when we beat the NFC blob it was us be and Fla MAin force being us.. When you beat them you had MC,Iron,FLA,D2,Free,MM,bob, good achivement O and i almost forgot they did not fight back neither did you take any sov from them before they disbaned Welldone you are truley uber
So Bob helped us now did they ? Hmmm, I think not.
I reccommend you double your medication and wear an extra three pairs of glasses before you play eve. Signature removed - Too wide.Laurelin |
thedragoon
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.19 12:01:00 -
[228]
Originally by: TWD
Originally by: thedragoon
Originally by: TWD Thedragoon / Alektorophobia is a joke. Why some people take this alliance/person serious, I have no clue.
who are you
If you don't know who I am then thats your problem.
I'm pointing out that you're a joke.
I agree i am funny
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Puke
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Posted - 2006.07.19 12:42:00 -
[229]
I'm an alt! Lol Look in game before throwing that particular accustation around. I know it's easy to do as a "I dismiss your post as you are an alt" defensive post.
I am actually one of IRON's most active and top PvPers. Showing how you have not killed me nor I have of you shows you how active you have actually been in the current conflict.
IRON/FLA caused NFC to disband. Their may have already been internal issues, but we must have had some contributing factor to that.
/me claps as you managed to take a station. We took the entire alliance to its feet. Not something I am proud of, but we managed to get the stations by different means. Forcing your way in is the brute thick headed way. I'm sure we have shown FLA a different approach.
And by no means IRON are taking all if any of the credit. It was a joint effort as a result of hostile entities actions.
I know very well the history of both our alliances and what they have achieved. I know what you have accomplished in the past, it's just recently that you go around beating your chest in affairs, that quite frankly, do not have a lot to do with you, and you show no results.
Do you see a single thread on these forums stating our means and making ourselves look big in this current campaign? No you can not. Reason being, we do our talking in game, we are not VAIN and feel the need to make public announcements of how big our balls are.
And to not know TWD shows how much you are blinkered in your whole self ego inflation techniques. Look outside the Alektroweownall sphere and look at what alliances are accomplishing around you, while you sit on the sidelines ready to kick any participant when he falls over.
Beleive it or not I do respect and admire a number of members within your alliance, quite a few actually. You however always seem to have to have a spotlight on your head and a golden dummy in your mouth.
Regards,
Puke
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DeadDuck
Amarr
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Posted - 2006.07.19 12:52:00 -
[230]
Originally by: thedragoon
Originally by: TWD Thedragoon / Alektorophobia is a joke. Why some people take this alliance/person serious, I have no clue.
who are you
I believe he has "some" kills in BOB KB
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MacDuncan
Minmatar
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Posted - 2006.07.19 13:04:00 -
[231]
Originally by: thedragoon
Originally by: TWD Thedragoon / Alektorophobia is a joke. Why some people take this alliance/person serious, I have no clue.
who are you
That's really stuff for a classic... --
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Kur'Dekaija
Solidline Enterprise
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Posted - 2006.07.19 14:02:00 -
[232]
Originally by: 0153
Originally by: Bitter Vet its the beginning of the end of d2
most pats of Venal are also under the controll of d2 enemys ( http://www.killboard.net/?p=details&id=84663 ) but d2 do nothing against them .. so is that realy the beginning of the end .. ?
Im realy offended by that part, well forum propaganda 4tw
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Hans Roaming
Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2006.07.19 14:44:00 -
[233]
Originally by: thedragoon
Originally by: TWD Thedragoon / Alektorophobia is a joke. Why some people take this alliance/person serious, I have no clue.
who are you
He's an MC alt, don't worry.
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Ehxo
Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2006.07.19 15:11:00 -
[234]
Originally by: TWD Thedragoon / Alektorophobia is a joke. Why some people take this alliance/person serious, I have no clue.
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Deja Thoris
Contraband Inc. Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2006.07.19 15:42:00 -
[235]
Originally by: thedragoon
2nd We are often in hot zones because we like to pvp and why the hell not be ?
PvP isn't a 3/5 stab raven with EW / sensor damps sniping when you are lucky enough to catch someone in an interdictor bubble.
PvP isn't logging off until local clears when ships enter local that have the ability to kill you.
PvP isn't cycling between deep safes when a comparable sized force in local wants to shoot you.
PvP isn't logging off intentionally in a dictor bubble that was dropped on you by an opposing player so your ship would warp off.
It's a sad inditement of the state of the game at the moment that you consider what you do as pvp
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Masta Killa
BURN EDEN
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Posted - 2006.07.19 18:48:00 -
[236]
Originally by: Deja Thoris
Originally by: thedragoon
2nd We are often in hot zones because we like to pvp and why the hell not be ?
PvP isn't a 3/5 stab raven with EW / sensor damps sniping when you are lucky enough to catch someone in an interdictor bubble.
PvP isn't logging off until local clears when ships enter local that have the ability to kill you.
PvP isn't cycling between deep safes when a comparable sized force in local wants to shoot you.
PvP isn't logging off intentionally in a dictor bubble that was dropped on you by an opposing player so your ship would warp off.
It's a sad inditement of the state of the game at the moment that you consider what you do as pvp
No, because using guerilla tactics would make it hard for you to bring 40 people against 5-10-15 and still win.
The only accepted pvp is 40 vs 5 and both parties must only have tanks on their ships.
So says the clueless MC noob.
Thus it must be true. --------------------------------------
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Traxio Nacho
Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2006.07.19 18:49:00 -
[237]
Originally by: Masta Killa
Originally by: Deja Thoris
Originally by: thedragoon
2nd We are often in hot zones because we like to pvp and why the hell not be ?
PvP isn't a 3/5 stab raven with EW / sensor damps sniping when you are lucky enough to catch someone in an interdictor bubble.
PvP isn't logging off until local clears when ships enter local that have the ability to kill you.
PvP isn't cycling between deep safes when a comparable sized force in local wants to shoot you.
PvP isn't logging off intentionally in a dictor bubble that was dropped on you by an opposing player so your ship would warp off.
It's a sad inditement of the state of the game at the moment that you consider what you do as pvp
No, because using guerilla tactics would make it hard for you to bring 40 people against 5-10-15 and still win.
The only accepted pvp is 40 vs 5 and both parties must only have tanks on their ships.
So says the clueless MC noob.
Thus it must be true.
You seem to be a very angry person at certain alliances and corps quite sad to see in a game really.
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Seleene
Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2006.07.19 18:52:00 -
[238]
MC is done with this thread. *hint* -
Latest MC Movie - Nation Building |
Masta Killa
BURN EDEN
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Posted - 2006.07.19 18:52:00 -
[239]
Why do you perceive me as angry?
I'm only stating facts and correcting all the bent truth a certain noob is pretending to know anything about. --------------------------------------
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pylons38
Penetrate
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Posted - 2006.07.19 18:53:00 -
[240]
I love how MC and BoB need twice as many ships as us before they engage. gg thx.
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Heinky
Amarr
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Posted - 2006.07.19 18:57:00 -
[241]
Ummm k
Masta dont bother , we know they all use more stabs then us while they claim otherwise so just laugh at them and leave it at that.
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Masta Killa
BURN EDEN
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Posted - 2006.07.19 18:57:00 -
[242]
Originally by: pylons38 I love how MC and BoB need twice as many ships as us before they engage. gg thx.
QFT.
Then they go on the forums and blatantly lie that groups like Alektrophobia or BURN EDEN (who incidentally almost always fight while stupidly outnumbered) is the side that blobs.
And when I say stupidly outnumbered, I'm not talking about something easy like 5 vs 20.
I'm talking 5 vs 50. --------------------------------------
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Aliksr
GoonWaffe GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2006.07.19 19:45:00 -
[243]
You know what this thread needs? More talking about warp core stabs. Everyone likes that topic!
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thoth foc
Destructive Influence
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Posted - 2006.07.19 19:52:00 -
[244]
Originally by: pylons38 I love how MC and BoB need twice as many ships as us before they engage. gg thx.
I love how, given that there was exactly the forum for a 5v5 fight provided by CCP, ppl that chose not you use it.. complain about being blobbed..
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Heinky
Amarr
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Posted - 2006.07.19 20:05:00 -
[245]
Originally by: thoth foc
Originally by: pylons38 I love how MC and BoB need twice as many ships as us before they engage. gg thx.
I love how, given that there was exactly the forum for a 5v5 fight provided by CCP, ppl that chose not you use it.. complain about being blobbed..
Yhe and a shame its limited to alliances only.
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Mama ISK
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Posted - 2006.07.19 20:05:00 -
[246]
Originally by: Masta Killa
Originally by: pylons38 I love how MC and BoB need twice as many ships as us before they engage. gg thx.
QFT.
Then they go on the forums and blatantly lie that groups like Alektrophobia or BURN EDEN (who incidentally almost always fight while stupidly outnumbered) is the side that blobs.
And when I say stupidly outnumbered, I'm not talking about something easy like 5 vs 20.
I'm talking 5 vs 50.
Maybe that's because that's how many it takes to tackle you so you don't run away?
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Kcel Chim
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.19 20:24:00 -
[247]
Originally by: Heinky
Originally by: thoth foc
Originally by: pylons38 I love how MC and BoB need twice as many ships as us before they engage. gg thx.
I love how, given that there was exactly the forum for a 5v5 fight provided by CCP, ppl that chose not you use it.. complain about being blobbed..
Yhe and a shame its limited to alliances only.
alektrophobia is already an alliance and im quiet sure that shin ra and the rest of his merry men have enough sleepcoins to pay the 1 billion needed to"go alliance" if they wanted to take the opportunity and show the world how awesome they are...
But i guess no EW and no stabs kinda ruined it.
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Heinky
Amarr
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Posted - 2006.07.19 20:40:00 -
[248]
Originally by: Kcel Chim
Originally by: Heinky
Originally by: thoth foc
Originally by: pylons38 I love how MC and BoB need twice as many ships as us before they engage. gg thx.
I love how, given that there was exactly the forum for a 5v5 fight provided by CCP, ppl that chose not you use it.. complain about being blobbed..
Yhe and a shame its limited to alliances only.
alektrophobia is already an alliance and im quiet sure that shin ra and the rest of his merry men have enough sleepcoins to pay the 1 billion needed to"go alliance" if they wanted to take the opportunity and show the world how awesome they are...
But i guess no EW and no stabs kinda ruined it.
Well if it only would have cost 1b to enter alot more people would have. Not everyone is interested in making an alliance.
Then again why would we wanna go 5 v 5 againts anyone , when we can beat them 5 v 30 , it just would not be fair to the rest of eve.
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Aramark
Total Warehouse Logistics
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Posted - 2006.07.19 20:44:00 -
[249]
Originally by: Heinky
Originally by: Kcel Chim
Originally by: Heinky
Originally by: thoth foc
Originally by: pylons38 I love how MC and BoB need twice as many ships as us before they engage. gg thx.
I love how, given that there was exactly the forum for a 5v5 fight provided by CCP, ppl that chose not you use it.. complain about being blobbed..
Yhe and a shame its limited to alliances only.
alektrophobia is already an alliance and im quiet sure that shin ra and the rest of his merry men have enough sleepcoins to pay the 1 billion needed to"go alliance" if they wanted to take the opportunity and show the world how awesome they are...
But i guess no EW and no stabs kinda ruined it.
Well if it only would have cost 1b to enter alot more people would have. Not everyone is interested in making an alliance.
Then again why would we wanna go 5 v 5 againts anyone , when we can beat them 5 v 30 , it just would not be fair to the rest of eve.
Aasia: Are you implying you are mean by nature and it requires conscious choice on your part to fight your nature and be nice? Aramark: yes |
thoth foc
Destructive Influence
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Posted - 2006.07.19 21:49:00 -
[250]
Originally by: Heinky
Originally by: Kcel Chim
Originally by: Heinky
Originally by: thoth foc
Originally by: pylons38 I love how MC and BoB need twice as many ships as us before they engage. gg thx.
I love how, given that there was exactly the forum for a 5v5 fight provided by CCP, ppl that chose not you use it.. complain about being blobbed..
Yhe and a shame its limited to alliances only.
alektrophobia is already an alliance and im quiet sure that shin ra and the rest of his merry men have enough sleepcoins to pay the 1 billion needed to"go alliance" if they wanted to take the opportunity and show the world how awesome they are...
But i guess no EW and no stabs kinda ruined it.
Well if it only would have cost 1b to enter alot more people would have. Not everyone is interested in making an alliance.
it's fair enuff to be cheap Heinky , however the person i replied to, doesnt have that excuse..
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pylons38
Penetrate Alektorophobia
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Posted - 2006.07.19 22:45:00 -
[251]
Originally by: thoth foc
Originally by: pylons38 I love how MC and BoB need twice as many ships as us before they engage. gg thx.
I love how, given that there was exactly the forum for a 5v5 fight provided by CCP, ppl that chose not you use it.. complain about being blobbed..
Eh? I have trouble making any sense of your post.
"ppl that choose not you use it" ??? lol
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Nifel
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.19 22:51:00 -
[252]
Originally by: Masta Killa
Originally by: pylons38 I love how MC and BoB need twice as many ships as us before they engage. gg thx.
QFT.
Then they go on the forums and blatantly lie that groups like Alektrophobia or BURN EDEN (who incidentally almost always fight while stupidly outnumbered) is the side that blobs.
And when I say stupidly outnumbered, I'm not talking about something easy like 5 vs 20.
I'm talking 5 vs 50.
Are you lying again now MK? Such bad habits you have. Please link to the obviously numerous posts by BoB/MC that must be lying around for you to back up your claim that we lie about you blobbing.
"When I die I want to die peacefully in my sleep like my grandpa. Not yelling and screaming like the passengers in his car." RKK Ranking: (MIN14) |
Masta Killa
BURN EDEN
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Posted - 2006.07.19 23:35:00 -
[253]
Here's one:
Noob
Now keep hauling or else you won't get to buy a new hac if you don't haul all this trit tonight.
You can let the real men do the fighting while you sit in a 100 man fleet in a POS somewhere, hiding from a bunch of equally crappy noobs. --------------------------------------
"It's like, we show up and UDIE." |
Aramark
Total Warehouse Logistics
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Posted - 2006.07.19 23:48:00 -
[254]
Originally by: Masta Killa Here's one:
Noob
Now keep hauling or else you won't get to buy a new hac if you don't haul all this trit tonight.
You can let the real men do the fighting while you sit in a 100 man fleet in a POS somewhere, hiding from a bunch of equally crappy noobs.
did Deja Thoris hurt your feelings? the truth does hurt. all that he has said is true. you do stab out your ravens.
Aasia: Are you implying you are mean by nature and it requires conscious choice on your part to fight your nature and be nice? Aramark: yes |
Razor Jaxx
Fate. Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2006.07.20 00:17:00 -
[255]
Originally by: Masta Killa Here's one:
Noob
Now keep hauling or else you won't get to buy a new hac if you don't haul all this trit tonight.
You can let the real men do the fighting while you sit in a 100 man fleet in a POS somewhere, hiding from a bunch of equally crappy noobs.
Man, you're hardcore leet, a true rock star. Autograph pls?
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Masta Killa
BURN EDEN
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Posted - 2006.07.20 00:34:00 -
[256]
Originally by: Aramark
did Deja Thoris hurt your feelings? the truth does hurt. all that he has said is true. you do stab out your ravens.
How would you know? Have you and yours ever gotten a single point on me?
Nope. --------------------------------------
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FliedLice
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Posted - 2006.07.20 00:49:00 -
[257]
Originally by: Masta Killa
Originally by: Aramark
did Deja Thoris hurt your feelings? the truth does hurt. all that he has said is true. you do stab out your ravens.
How would you know? Have you and yours ever gotten a single point on me?
Nope.
This thread isn't about you, its about Alektraphobia. And a quick perusal of the relevant killboards will show that yes, BoB and the MC did pick up enough stabs off their ships to crash the deklein marketprice for the forseeable future.
Facts > delusions
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Marsha11
Penetrate Alektorophobia
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Posted - 2006.07.20 01:06:00 -
[258]
Edited by: Marsha11 on 20/07/2006 01:07:51 Edited by: Marsha11 on 20/07/2006 01:07:42 PVP simply means one player controled entity versus another.
The specific fittings, numbers, ships, place and people are irrelivant. If you dont like what we do, what we are able to beat, what we are able to achieve then dont fight us.
We are not going to change because people flame us on the forums because they dont have the brains to adapt to a style which they cannot comprehend.
We beat groups that out-number us, we do use warp core stabs and we have a great fun time doing it.
Instead of flaming and trying to make us change why dont you all swallow some pride and learn from those that were able to realise that PVP isn't just about the most damage and the uber-est tank...
Those of you who are unable to do that... well thats why you flame us, in the hope we will make things easier for you by one day realising we were wrong. But here is a newsflash people..
**WE ARE NOT WRONG!!**
See ya in space...
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Shin Ra
BURN EDEN
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Posted - 2006.07.20 01:46:00 -
[259]
Originally by: DeadDuck
I believe he has "some" kills in BOB KB
Of course we know who he is. TWD was the first person ever to dishonor a 1v1 with any of us.
Originally by: Traxio Nacho
You seem to be a very angry person at certain alliances and corps quite sad to see in a game really.
He takes after Eyeshadow.
Originally by: Mama ISK
Maybe that's because that's how many it takes to tackle you so you don't run away?
Wow that a new one. How does that explain us still winning those fights?
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TWD
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Posted - 2006.07.20 02:47:00 -
[260]
Originally by: Shin Ra
Originally by: DeadDuck
I believe he has "some" kills in BOB KB
Of course we know who he is. TWD was the first person ever to dishonor a 1v1 with any of us.
Show proof of this, or simply stfu.
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Shin Ra
BURN EDEN
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Posted - 2006.07.20 03:23:00 -
[261]
Originally by: TWD
Originally by: Shin Ra
Originally by: DeadDuck
I believe he has "some" kills in BOB KB
Of course we know who he is. TWD was the first person ever to dishonor a 1v1 with any of us.
Show proof of this, or simply stfu.
You challenged SATAN/Kickass to a 1v1 and ran away saying it was pointless when your cruiser couldn't hit his crow. We brought it up a while ago and you acknowledged that had happened but said it wasnt a proper 1v1.
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TWD
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Posted - 2006.07.20 03:26:00 -
[262]
Originally by: Shin Ra
Originally by: TWD
Originally by: Shin Ra
Originally by: DeadDuck
I believe he has "some" kills in BOB KB
Of course we know who he is. TWD was the first person ever to dishonor a 1v1 with any of us.
Show proof of this, or simply stfu.
You challenged SATAN/Kickass to a 1v1 and ran away saying it was pointless when your cruiser couldn't hit his crow. We brought it up a while ago and you acknowledged that had happened but said it wasnt a proper 1v1.
You're making stuff up here.
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Franky B
Mentally Unstable Enterprises
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Posted - 2006.07.20 03:30:00 -
[263]
Originally by: Marsha11
We are not going to change because people flame us on the forums because they dont have the brains to adapt to a style which they cannot comprehend.
its not about comprehension. the fact that a dev clearly stated that WCS were the *** and are to be changed is testament to that.
now go dream up some more fittings, you'll need them.
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Abdalion
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Posted - 2006.07.20 03:33:00 -
[264]
Thread has run its course.
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