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Omar Alharazaad
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
291
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Posted - 2014.08.09 09:01:00 -
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You know we have spaceships with weapons on them that work wonders when it comes to settling personal disputes. Can we get back on the topic of the OP being horribly wrong, despite being extremely distraught about the wardec mechanic? I just got some popcorn popped. |
Kalishka Ashkulf
BUMP POW
48
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Posted - 2014.08.09 09:01:00 -
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ImYourMom wrote:Kalishka Ashkulf wrote:Derrick Miles wrote:Tippia wrote:ImYourMom wrote:typical tippis troll post. Typical ******** post. Have you any clue whatsoever what wardecs are or how the game works (and has worked since before it was even released)? Are you even in the slightest aware of the history of EVE and how it has developed? No. So STFU and let the adults talk. Every last detail in the OP is ignorant, idiotic, completely bare of any intelligence or understanding of the game and its mechanics. It is 100% wrong and expressed even worse. Trying to defend even a single syllable of it is to loudly admit a complete lack of any comprehension that is even remotely related to the topic and thus immediately disqualifying yourself from even being part of the conversation. Typical rude, abrasive, and insulting post. Well, not really. She was accused of being a troll, based solely on the fact she argued against the OP's (let's be honest here) overly long rant. I'm pretty sure after explaining your side of view on something and being called a troll will annoy the **** out of you too. Quite frankly, I agree with Tippia. I have yet to come across anything wrong with the wardeccing mechanics. To be fair to Tippia, I'm surprised she had the stomach to wade through the jumbled mess that is the OP clusterf*** of letters. Why should Wardeccing mechanics be changed? After all, some people simply hide away in stations to avoid wardeccing. If that happens, should the aggressor get their money back? I imagine you would argue they should not. Why is it that mechanics should be changed to decrease the number of wardecs or simply make them more costly? How is that supposed to promote gameplay exactly? she is a troll there is no doubt, perhaps you should check all the 100s of derogatory posts. There are ways and means of disagreeing without insulting people. It's people like you and tippia that stop people coming on forums because you simply can't have a grown up conversation, what makes your opinion better or right over someone else's?
I beg your pardon! Sorry, but that is a direct attack on other persons of this forum. That statement offers no discussion to the topic at hand. Please show me how I have kept people away from my "evil posting" here is my post history
As for Tippia. Often I agree with her statements. Sometimes I do not. However, I don't go around accusing her of frightening people from the forums.
To keep back on topic, I disagree with the OP. I think there are many misguided assumptions in the post and I think she could benefit from rethinking her position on the matter. Or at the very least, remodel her presentation.
Sorry, was that too harsh! |
ImYourMom
Republic University Minmatar Republic
50
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Posted - 2014.08.09 09:01:00 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:ImYourMom wrote: no what we are doing is not putting up with a person who constantly forum trolls and is derogatory to every other player that posts. simple as.
There is no "we". You're alone here, tilting at windmills, defending the stupid, the ignorant, and the imbeciles.
so you are calling people stupid and imbeciles because you don't agree with their ideas or opinions? wow...
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Grimpak
Shifting Sands Trader Cartel Bleak Horizon Alliance.
2094
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Posted - 2014.08.09 09:01:00 -
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Jake Warbird wrote:The thread till now :
OP : Wardecs work!!! Why do they work like they're supposed to work?? Tips : Boom. -Reload- Others : mimimimimimimimimimimi no ****.
I mean, come on, I know Tippia posts in a very straightforward way (calling him a troll is akin to call an apple, orange. just an FYI).
I know, straightforwardness in GD? heresy! it be a troll! burn the heretic!
[img]http://eve-files.com/sig/grimpak[/img]
[quote]The more I know about humans, the more I love animals.[/quote] ain't that right |
Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space The ROC
8634
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Posted - 2014.08.09 09:03:00 -
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ImYourMom wrote:Kaarous Aldurald wrote:ImYourMom wrote: no what we are doing is not putting up with a person who constantly forum trolls and is derogatory to every other player that posts. simple as.
There is no "we". You're alone here, tilting at windmills, defending the stupid, the ignorant, and the imbeciles. so you are calling people stupid and imbeciles because you don't agree with their ideas or opinions? wow...
No, I'm calling them that because they're stupid. It's theoretically possible to disagree with me and not be an idiot. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
Clean Up Local 2014.-á |
ImYourMom
Republic University Minmatar Republic
50
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Posted - 2014.08.09 09:03:00 -
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Remiel Pollard wrote:ImYourMom wrote:Remiel Pollard wrote:Derrick Miles wrote:...and I'm not sure why you think otherwise. My point is you are either here to pick a fight with Tippia, or be part of a discussion about wardecs. Posting so far indicates the former. no what we are doing is not putting up with a person who constantly forum trolls and is derogatory to every other player that posts. simple as. No, what you are doing is throwing a tantrum at someone that shows you up and calls you out every time you say something stupid. Like what you just said now, it's stupid. Tippia certainly is not derogatory to every other player that posts, only the stupid ones. Like you.
I disagree
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Erica Dusette
Isogen 5
16896
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Posted - 2014.08.09 09:04:00 -
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ImYourMom wrote:Remiel Pollard wrote:Derrick Miles wrote:...and I'm not sure why you think otherwise. My point is you are either here to pick a fight with Tippia, or be part of a discussion about wardecs. Posting so far indicates the former. no what we are doing is not putting up with a person who constantly forum trolls and is derogatory to every other player that posts. simple as. I think Tippia's posts are some of the most insightful and well written on the forums, most especially when putting across or countering some argument. I really enjoy reading them even if I don't 100% agree 100% of the time, almost though.
Sure they can be a little abrasive at times but holy **** do you even read what most posts are like around here?
Tippia has waaay more patience than I ever could have. I'd vote Tippia CSM, ISD, CCP Ceo or Prime Minister of Australia any day.
Gÿá Part-time wormhole pirate | GÖí Full-time super model WH Blog | #420roloswag | Bio |
Remiel Pollard
Shock Treatment Ministries
4095
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Posted - 2014.08.09 09:05:00 -
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ImYourMom wrote:Kaarous Aldurald wrote:ImYourMom wrote: no what we are doing is not putting up with a person who constantly forum trolls and is derogatory to every other player that posts. simple as.
There is no "we". You're alone here, tilting at windmills, defending the stupid, the ignorant, and the imbeciles. so you are calling people stupid and imbeciles because you don't agree with their ideas or opinions? wow...
No, it's not because he doesn't agree, it's because they are stupid ideas and opinions. There are ideas and opinions that can be disagreed with and discussed, because there is no indication of whether they're good or bad yet, then there are demonstrably stupid ideas that should be dismissed with disdain. This thread is an example of the latter. GÇ£Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.GÇ¥ - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104 |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
23817
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Posted - 2014.08.09 09:05:00 -
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ImYourMom wrote:so you are calling people stupid and imbeciles because you don't agree with their ideas or opinions? No, he's calling people stupid and imbeciles because they have proven themselves to be stupid imbeciles by exhibiting a complete lack of understanding of the topic they've tried to talk about.
Again, you understand that pretty much everything the OP says is factually incorrect, impossible, or just plain old ignorant of core game functionality, right? GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
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Lugia3
Intentionally Dense Easily Excited
1095
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Posted - 2014.08.09 09:05:00 -
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Oh this is going to be good. SO! Let the deconstruction of op begin.
War Declaration has become a tool for people to use to be able to legitimately attack anyone they want or they use it to extort players out of isk. As it always has. Working as intended.
I am not referring to ganking, ganking is a form of piracy and there are consequences for doing so. Ganking isn't piracy. Ganking is pure pvp. Ransoming someone for personal gain is piracy.
Excessive ganking of one particular person should be considered harassment especially if done repeatedly several times again and again for no gain on the attackers part. Kill mails are highly over-rated and mean nothing in the grand scheme of things except for determining W/L in large scale war/campaigns. Killmails = Epeen. And yes, ganking someone repeatedly DOES have a gain. They produce killmails, which as I said, equal epeen points. The victim also has a small chance of producing an epic highsec braveheart thread. *cough cough*
There are a lot of people who have cancelled their accounts because they cannot have any fun no matter what they choose to do in this game because they do not want to fight in PVP ever... Good, EvE wasn't meant for them anyway. I guess they took GD's advice and went back to wow.
If try to If you try to pay them off or surrender they do not listen they just keep coming after you. Tears are an oh so valuable commodity.
You could close your entire corp down to avoid being war dec'd, but then a large part of the empire building aspect of this game is reduced to working only with NPC Faction Corps Rome didn't pack up and run from the Carthaginians, either. In the words of forum-lord Tippia, "If you don't want to defend what you own, you don't deserve it, and you will lose it."
Industrialists do the work that the PVPer's don't want to do, so why attack the people doing the work you do not want to do. 1) No they don't. 2) Because attacking them generates killmails, tears, loot, and epic highsec braveheart threads.
So the be-grieved player is either forced to quit the game altogether or buy a new character from the character bazaar... Why?
...which costs a lot of in game money, which you cant earn because you are being grieved. Adapt or die.
Combat is only one part. If all you care about is combat then why play a game that should take quite a while to build a up a good character for fighting. Why not play a game with a little more instant gratification?!? If you don't like combat, why play a game that focuses around combat? Why not play a game with a little more single player?!?
2. All character purchases should end. Period. Earning is learning in this game you should not have the ability to buy a character you have no business using without having to have earned it. "If you don't want to defend what you own, you don't deserve it, and you will lose it." Earn your right to survive or you have no business being in a ship.
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ImYourMom
Republic University Minmatar Republic
50
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Posted - 2014.08.09 09:05:00 -
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Remiel Pollard wrote:ImYourMom wrote:Kaarous Aldurald wrote:ImYourMom wrote: no what we are doing is not putting up with a person who constantly forum trolls and is derogatory to every other player that posts. simple as.
There is no "we". You're alone here, tilting at windmills, defending the stupid, the ignorant, and the imbeciles. so you are calling people stupid and imbeciles because you don't agree with their ideas or opinions? wow... No, it's not because he doesn't agree, it's because they are stupid ideas and opinions. There are ideas and opinions that can be disagreed with and discussed, because there is no indication of whether they're good or bad yet, then there are demonstrably stupid ideas that should be dismissed with disdain. This thread is an example of the latter.
I disagree |
ImYourMom
Republic University Minmatar Republic
50
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Posted - 2014.08.09 09:06:00 -
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Quote:
What do you disagree with? Everything I've stated is demonstrable, your agreement is not required for it to be true.
I disagree |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
23821
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Posted - 2014.08.09 09:08:00 -
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ImYourMom wrote:I disagree GǪand that explains why people are inclined to include you in the ignorant troll category: you are disagreeing with proven facts and reality. Disagreeing with this fact, in turn, (without providing any kind of supporting evidence) just strengthens their conclusion on that matter. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: Newbie skillplan 2.2. |
Remiel Pollard
Shock Treatment Ministries
4101
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Posted - 2014.08.09 09:08:00 -
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ImYourMom wrote:Quote:
What do you disagree with? Everything I've stated is demonstrable, your agreement is not required for it to be true.
I disagree
Oh wow, so now that you're out of even bad counter arguments, you've opted for the 5 year old approach of just repeating yourself over and over? Get a clue, it doesn't matter whether you agree or not, fact is fact. You're just a moron. And an immature child to boot. GÇ£Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.GÇ¥ - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104 |
Jake Warbird
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
4227
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Posted - 2014.08.09 09:13:00 -
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" Dammnit, I tried to make a point and got shot down. Better resort to calling everyone that disagrees with me, rude and trolls. " |
Grimpak
Shifting Sands Trader Cartel Bleak Horizon Alliance.
2095
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Posted - 2014.08.09 09:13:00 -
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ok time to call the mods. think this thread is too far gone into the twilight zone already. [img]http://eve-files.com/sig/grimpak[/img]
[quote]The more I know about humans, the more I love animals.[/quote] ain't that right |
flakeys
Guinea pigs inc.
2402
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Posted - 2014.08.09 09:14:00 -
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Ah saturday morning , ISD hangover time ...
We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.
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Remiel Pollard
Shock Treatment Ministries
4101
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Posted - 2014.08.09 09:15:00 -
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flakeys wrote:Ah saturday morning , ISD hangover time ...
Saturday night for me. Hangover just ended, time to start again... GÇ£Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.GÇ¥ - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104 |
Jake Warbird
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
4228
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Posted - 2014.08.09 09:17:00 -
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flakeys wrote:Ah saturday morning , ISD hangover time ... +1.
Bonus points for the apt sig. |
Valkin Mordirc
88
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Posted - 2014.08.09 09:18:00 -
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Well this walk down GD was eventful.
As to the OP,
Wardec are meant for....exporting other players by strong arming them into surrenders? So ermmm, huh, working just like they are suppose to work. Odd.
What was the topic again? Psychotic Monk for CSM9 |
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Erica Dusette
Isogen 5
16900
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Posted - 2014.08.09 09:18:00 -
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Grimpak wrote:ok time to call the mods. think this thread is too far gone into the twilight zone already. Nothing wrong with the twilight zone. I personally enjoy intentionally dragging threads completely off topic, so long as it's in a positive direction though.
Edit: Or ridiculous direction. Either works. Gÿá Part-time wormhole pirate | GÖí Full-time super model WH Blog | #420roloswag | Bio |
Remiel Pollard
Shock Treatment Ministries
4105
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Posted - 2014.08.09 09:20:00 -
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Erica Dusette wrote:Grimpak wrote:ok time to call the mods. think this thread is too far gone into the twilight zone already. Nothing wrong with the twilight zone. I personally enjoy intentionally dragging threads completely off topic, so long as it's in a positive direction though. Edit: Or ridiculous direction. Either works.
This thread is now about bacon. GÇ£Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.GÇ¥ - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104 |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
23825
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Posted - 2014.08.09 09:21:00 -
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Erica Dusette wrote:Grimpak wrote:ok time to call the mods. think this thread is too far gone into the twilight zone already. Nothing wrong with the twilight zone. I personally enjoy intentionally dragging threads completely off topic, so long as it's in a positive direction though. That's the really fun part in all of this.
There is this tiny group of posters who have such a hard-on for me that simply cannot resist dragging a thread off-topic by injecting random attacks against me out of nowhere. It becomes particularly hilarious when they later come back and accuse me of getting GÇ£legitimateGÇ¥ threads locked for dragging them off topic.
I mean, in a sense it's true: I do report their off-topic trolling after all, and that surely contributes to the inevitable lock. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
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flakeys
Guinea pigs inc.
2404
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Posted - 2014.08.09 09:23:00 -
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Remiel Pollard wrote:flakeys wrote:Ah saturday morning , ISD hangover time ... Saturday night for me. Hangover just ended, time to start again... EDIT: that's actually not true, I haven't had a drink in months. Good news is, though, that changes next weekend cuz my cancer treatments end this week
Good luck with further recovery mate.
We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.
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Erica Dusette
Isogen 5
16900
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Posted - 2014.08.09 09:26:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Erica Dusette wrote:Grimpak wrote:ok time to call the mods. think this thread is too far gone into the twilight zone already. Nothing wrong with the twilight zone. I personally enjoy intentionally dragging threads completely off topic, so long as it's in a positive direction though. That's the really fun part in all of this. There is this tiny group of posters who have such a hard-on for me that simply cannot resist dragging a thread off-topic by injecting random attacks against me out of nowhere. It becomes particularly hilarious when they later come back and accuse me of getting GÇ£legitimateGÇ¥ threads locked for dragging them off topic. I mean, in a sense it's true: I do report their off-topic trolling after all, and that surely contributes to the inevitable lock. I'd never attack you, but I do enjoy throwing random flirtations at you.
Speaking of which, can you say "hard-on" again. That gave me butterflies.
Gÿá Part-time wormhole pirate | GÖí Full-time super model WH Blog | #420roloswag | Bio |
Omar Alharazaad
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
291
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Posted - 2014.08.09 09:26:00 -
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Bacon is OP.... but please don't nerf. Bacon scented candles appear to be a real thing, but from the reviews I see on Amazon they're pretty nasty actually.
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Jake Warbird
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
4228
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Posted - 2014.08.09 09:26:00 -
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flakeys wrote:Remiel Pollard wrote:
Saturday night for me. Hangover just ended, time to start again...
EDIT: that's actually not true, I haven't had a drink in months. Good news is, though, that changes next weekend cuz my cancer treatments end this week
Good luck with further recovery mate. Would like to wish as well. |
Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space The ROC
8638
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Posted - 2014.08.09 09:28:00 -
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Jake Warbird wrote:flakeys wrote:Remiel Pollard wrote:
Saturday night for me. Hangover just ended, time to start again...
EDIT: that's actually not true, I haven't had a drink in months. Good news is, though, that changes next weekend cuz my cancer treatments end this week
Good luck with further recovery mate. Would like to wish as well.
+1 "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
Clean Up Local 2014.-á |
Remiel Pollard
Shock Treatment Ministries
4110
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Posted - 2014.08.09 09:29:00 -
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Jake Warbird wrote:flakeys wrote:Remiel Pollard wrote:
Saturday night for me. Hangover just ended, time to start again...
EDIT: that's actually not true, I haven't had a drink in months. Good news is, though, that changes next weekend cuz my cancer treatments end this week
Good luck with further recovery mate. Would like to wish as well.
So far, everything looks good. Just six- and twelve-month follow up tests to make sure it doesn't come back. Only thing I've really had to struggle with was the anxiety of finding out, and the surgery, and the discomfort of the treatment. And when I say discomfort, it's a bit of an understatement. And by a bit, I mean a lot. But yah, I should be fine. Cheers for your thoughts, guys, but spare them for the more needy. I'll be just fine. GÇ£Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.GÇ¥ - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104 |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
23825
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Posted - 2014.08.09 09:30:00 -
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Omar Alharazaad wrote:Bacon is OP.... but please don't nerf. Bacon scented candles appear to be a real thing, but from the reviews I see on Amazon they're pretty nasty actually. Come to think of it, isn't that always the case? Bacon-scented anything tends to vary between hideously foul and gut-wrenchingly awfulGǪ as long as it's not actual bacon.
I'm guessing it's just one of those really complex scents that simply refuses to be replicated properly and there's some kind of uncanny scent-valley effect that just makes it awful.
AlsoGǪJake Warbird wrote:flakeys wrote:Good luck with further recovery mate. Would like to wish as well. GǪthis. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
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