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Bel Tika
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
257
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Posted - 2014.08.09 23:25:00 -
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have fun in whatever you decide to do m8 an hope to someday see you back ;) |

Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space The ROC
8654
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Posted - 2014.08.09 23:28:00 -
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You've gotten your cause and effect wrong.
Incursions are actually at fault for the current situation, thanks to them causing such rampant inflation. That's why ships cost ten times as much as a few years ago.
But static direct income injections, that being isk from missions and bounties, was never adjusted to compensate (and rightly so, otherwise we'd all be screwed by now). But that has the effect of hitting the new player the hardest, as their income streams are rather more limited.
So, you can blame inflation for the current woes of ship replacement cost.
It has to deflate before this will be addressed. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
Clean Up Local 2014.-á |

Marc Durant
79
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Posted - 2014.08.09 23:31:00 -
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Barakkus wrote:Sibyyl wrote:May I ask why you are leaving? Good luck to you, wherever you are headed.
Is your name a Mr. T reference? Yeah Mr. T reference. I'm not going into detail, rather not just be another bitter vet rant, but EVE has been going in the wrong direction for a few years now, and CCP keeps shooting itself in the foot. It appears there may be some games coming that will have more of an interest to me. The casual play style is getting nerfed more and more every year, and honestly, I have no desire to devote as much time to EVE as it really requires at this point. I had fun when there was fun to be had, lots actually, just look at my kill boards, not too bad for a solo player...I admit I do suck at this game, but don't we all? This has been a couple years coming. I kept my subscription going hoping lowsec would turn around and there would be good fights again to be had, but my circle of pvp buddies have slowly filtered away and quit, I'm one of the last left. CCP did some GREAT things to boost pvp over the years only to nerf them later. It's a shame because this is/was a really good game. But as everything in life we move on to other things eventually :) Hopefully CCP keeps it going and makes good choices in the future. Maybe I'll be back, but more than likely not.
Been there, done that. Made a similar rant back in 2009, quit a few times. Came back anyway.
Have fun on your EVE-break, you'll be back :) Yes, yes-áI am. Thanks for noticing.
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Paranoid Loyd
1280
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Posted - 2014.08.09 23:33:00 -
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Fair enough.
I think the changes to industry are just something that were so large it takes a lot to understand the whole picture. When only looking at it from a personal POV based on the way you were doing things, it is easy to feel like you got screwed. When you step back and look at it with fresh eyes and acknowledge the game changed, it seems it opened more opportunity. But I haven't informed myself enough to form a cohesive argument, these are just impressions so maybe I am wrong.
Hope to see you back someday. "PvE in EVE is a trap to turn you into PvP content, don't confuse it for actual gameplay." Lipbite |

Nevyn Auscent
Broke Sauce
1464
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Posted - 2014.08.09 23:33:00 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:You've gotten your cause and effect wrong.
Incursions are actually at fault for the current situation, thanks to them causing such rampant inflation. That's why ships cost ten times as much as a few years ago.
But static direct income injections, that being isk from missions and bounties, was never adjusted to compensate (and rightly so, otherwise we'd all be screwed by now). But that has the effect of hitting the new player the hardest, as their income streams are rather more limited.
So, you can blame inflation for the current woes of ship replacement cost.
It has to deflate before this will be addressed. Other than CCP directly saying that Incursions don't contribute much to the overall isk faucets, being less than 10% of total faucets. and that we don't have inflation atm, actually deflation. Null sec ratting actually accounts for about 50% of all isk entering the game if you want the largest culprit, WH NPC buy orders the second biggest around 20%.
Ship costs have mainly increased due to increased mineral requirements and Miners no longer accepting 5 Mil/hr for their time. |

Barakkus
2265
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Posted - 2014.08.09 23:37:00 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:You've gotten your cause and effect wrong.
Incursions are actually at fault for the current situation, thanks to them causing such rampant inflation. That's why ships cost ten times as much as a few years ago.
But static direct income injections, that being isk from missions and bounties, was never adjusted to compensate (and rightly so, otherwise we'd all be screwed by now). But that has the effect of hitting the new player the hardest, as their income streams are rather more limited.
So, you can blame inflation for the current woes of ship replacement cost.
It has to deflate before this will be addressed.
It won't it's a persistent problem that once the market gets to the point it did, there's no turning back. Look at plex prices. You are right to some degree but the availability to acquire isk after 6 months worth of training in relation to the effort to replace ships was enough at that period to get some really good pvp, and constant.
This was one of the last epic fights to be had for me and my motley crew: http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_related&kll_id=13069607 It was a 3 way on the gate into Obalyu, absolutely epic...about 45 minutes of people killing and reshipping and my little band of 6 or 7 ended up winning the field, was one of the best memories I have of that brief little period that there were good fights. Had others but that one was always my favorite. http://youtu.be/yytbDZrw1jc |

Bel Tika
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
258
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Posted - 2014.08.09 23:42:00 -
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Nevyn Auscent wrote:Kaarous Aldurald wrote:You've gotten your cause and effect wrong.
Incursions are actually at fault for the current situation, thanks to them causing such rampant inflation. That's why ships cost ten times as much as a few years ago.
But static direct income injections, that being isk from missions and bounties, was never adjusted to compensate (and rightly so, otherwise we'd all be screwed by now). But that has the effect of hitting the new player the hardest, as their income streams are rather more limited.
So, you can blame inflation for the current woes of ship replacement cost.
It has to deflate before this will be addressed. Other than CCP directly saying that Incursions don't contribute much to the overall isk faucets, being less than 10% of total faucets. and that we don't have inflation atm, actually deflation. Null sec ratting actually accounts for about 50% of all isk entering the game if you want the largest culprit, WH NPC buy orders the second biggest around 20%. Ship costs have mainly increased due to increased mineral requirements and Miners no longer accepting 5 Mil/hr for their time.
Miners took 5mill per hour?
jesus man slave labour lol |

Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
5235
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Posted - 2014.08.09 23:52:00 -
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Barakkus wrote:Paranoid Loyd wrote:8 years and all you acquired was 50 bil? Cya o/ Ah but I have acquired more than just isk in my time here, unfortunately you wouldn't know because I've never heard of you. Plenty of the old timers left know me, but you, alas, don't... ;) Gonna miss all you Crime and Punishment trolls, most of which have parted ways with EVE...was fun while it lasted though. Shout out to my buds in Rancer o7 You guys were always fun...and all the rest of you from Goons to Blackwater, BoB, Shadow Cartel, Basgerin Pirates, Red Clam DOT, Suddenly Spaceships, BricK sQuAD., Space P0lice, AAA, Black Rebel Rifter Club, HYDRA RELOADED, and all the others that brought the good fights over the years :)
I remember you. And your post I'm quoting is like a mini "walk down memory lane". I was looking at Zedriks bio and the links to his exploits and wondering if such days were behind us, and I remember your posts in C&P were always good stuff.
One more name of olde gone, so many not seen any more - maybe the days are truly behind us.
Oh well...
Good luck! o7 Bring back DEEEEP Space! |

Arec Bardwin
1493
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Posted - 2014.08.10 00:04:00 -
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Nevyn Auscent wrote: Ship costs have mainly increased due to increased mineral requirements and Miners no longer accepting 5 Mil/hr for their time.
Drone goo nerf and NPC loot nerf increased minerals prices, increased mineral requirements for ships and insurance nerf all attributed to increased ship replacement costs.
Barakkus: Sad to see another old school player go. I have seen many friends just stop logging in over the years as well. You'll probably be back, as there is no game compareble to EVE Online at the moment. Luckily for CCP I might add. |

Rykuss
In Praise Of Bacchus
106
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Posted - 2014.08.10 01:42:00 -
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o7 You, too, can be a Solid Gold dancer. |
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Solecist Project
Mew Age Outpaws
4253
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Posted - 2014.08.10 01:44:00 -
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Wow, you were still here?
I remember you from years ago!
Now you're gone.
Sad. http://residentoutlaw.tumblr.com - British ****. |

Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space The ROC
8661
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Posted - 2014.08.10 01:48:00 -
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Nevyn Auscent wrote: Other than CCP directly saying that Incursions don't contribute much to the overall isk faucets, being less than 10% of total faucets.
Context, get some.
He, and I, were talking about the enormous inflation caused by pre nerf incursions.
That's why they were nerfed in the first place. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
Clean Up Local 2014.-á |

Christopher Mabata
Dominion Tenebrarum Reverberation Project
71
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Posted - 2014.08.10 03:24:00 -
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One less person to compete with on the market! Huzzah!!
:P Is it bad if your friend says "that was a Metaphor" and you say "Meta 4? Get Tech II or faction" ?I love the sound of silent explosions in Space.-á |

Najenna
Caldari Deep Space Ventures Black Core Alliance
15
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Posted - 2014.08.10 08:51:00 -
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Barakkus wrote:Happy trails to you, 8 years and 50+ bil removed from the economy. No you can't have my stuff :)
Sorry to see you go. Maybe you should just take a month break and refresh yourself. I been playing for 12 years and I know how you feel. I take month breaks here and there just log on to change skills. No I don't want or need your stuff but i would like for you to stay and remain a part of the community.
What ever you choose best of luck to you and Hope you find something that makes you happy. 
Good luck fly safe mate. |

Pheusia
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
174
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Posted - 2014.08.10 09:11:00 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:You've gotten your cause and effect wrong.
Incursions are actually at fault for the current situation, thanks to them causing such rampant inflation. That's why ships cost ten times as much as a few years ago.
But static direct income injections, that being isk from missions and bounties, was never adjusted to compensate (and rightly so, otherwise we'd all be screwed by now). But that has the effect of hitting the new player the hardest, as their income streams are rather more limited.
So, you can blame inflation for the current woes of ship replacement cost.
It has to deflate before this will be addressed.
er sorry but no this is factually wrong in almost every respect. |

Riot Girl
You'll Cowards Don't Even Smoke Crack
3493
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Posted - 2014.08.10 09:15:00 -
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Pheusia wrote:Kaarous Aldurald wrote:You've gotten your cause and effect wrong.
Incursions are actually at fault for the current situation, thanks to them causing such rampant inflation. That's why ships cost ten times as much as a few years ago.
But static direct income injections, that being isk from missions and bounties, was never adjusted to compensate (and rightly so, otherwise we'd all be screwed by now). But that has the effect of hitting the new player the hardest, as their income streams are rather more limited.
So, you can blame inflation for the current woes of ship replacement cost.
It has to deflate before this will be addressed. er sorry but no this is factually wrong in almost every respect. Cool argument, Malcanis.
Oh god. |

Sobaan Tali
Caldari Quick Reaction Force
332
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Posted - 2014.08.10 09:36:00 -
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Hope you will be back after a good break. I've only been playing for a little over 4 and a half years, mostly PVE, and even I have had to take some leave from Eve here and there. Either way, where ever the Gate takes you next, good luck and have fun with it. |

Medalyn Isis
Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic
300
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Posted - 2014.08.10 11:20:00 -
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By they way, removing 50 billion isk from the game actually means the rest of us our richer due to inflation, although in the case of 50bil that is almost meaningless.
I thought pvp has improved actually in the recent years with the ship rebalance. Although stupid ships being introduced like the garmur don't help keep pvp interesting I do agree. What exactly was it about pvp in your opinion which has become worse recently out of interest? |

Mabego Tetrimon
Spiritus Draconis Drunk 'n' Disorderly
25
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Posted - 2014.08.10 11:24:00 -
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can i have your stuff?
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BrundleMeth
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
198
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Posted - 2014.08.10 11:41:00 -
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Wow, these "can I have your stuff" people are the worst kind of player in EVE. Nothing but selfish trolls.
This guys reason for leaving is a problem and he is right for his reasons, he simply has more important things to do.
I know this much., If I ever quit I will never tell anyone, I'll just leave. And I wont be back. I will simply Biomass my toons with my 200 Billion worth of assets and ISK no one gets a bloody thing. |
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Billy McCandless
The McCandless Clan
381
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Posted - 2014.08.10 12:55:00 -
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Kan u has mi stuf? "Thread locked for being deemed a total loss." - ISD Ezwal |

Ursula Thrace
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
252
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Posted - 2014.08.10 16:27:00 -
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barakkus,
i don't know you, but i wish you luck and hope you decide to return to eve one day.
farewell o7 eve online original intro
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ISD Dorrim Barstorlode
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
3309

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Posted - 2014.08.10 16:42:00 -
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Removed an off topic post. ISD Dorrim Barstorlode Captain Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department |
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Pheusia
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
175
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Posted - 2014.08.10 17:08:00 -
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Riot Girl wrote:Pheusia wrote:Kaarous Aldurald wrote:You've gotten your cause and effect wrong.
Incursions are actually at fault for the current situation, thanks to them causing such rampant inflation. That's why ships cost ten times as much as a few years ago.
But static direct income injections, that being isk from missions and bounties, was never adjusted to compensate (and rightly so, otherwise we'd all be screwed by now). But that has the effect of hitting the new player the hardest, as their income streams are rather more limited.
So, you can blame inflation for the current woes of ship replacement cost.
It has to deflate before this will be addressed. er sorry but no this is factually wrong in almost every respect. Cool argument, Malcanis.
You're very kind to say so, but it's actually just an assertion. |

Riot Girl
You'll Cowards Don't Even Smoke Crack
3511
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Posted - 2014.08.10 17:21:00 -
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Nope, it's garbage, like everything you post :3 edit; sorry, replaced a naughty word. Oh god. |

baltec1
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
12662
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Posted - 2014.08.10 17:30:00 -
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BrundleMeth wrote:Wow, these "can I have your stuff" people are the worst kind of player in EVE. Nothing but selfish trolls.
This guys reason for leaving is a problem and he is right for his reasons, he simply has more important things to do.
I know this much., If I ever quit I will never tell anyone, I'll just leave. And I wont be back. I will simply Biomass my toons with my 200 Billion worth of assets and ISK no one gets a bloody thing.
Are you sure I cant have your stuff? Join Bat Country today and defend the Glorious Socialist Dictatorship |

Yokai Mitsuhide
Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic
5487
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Posted - 2014.08.10 17:32:00 -
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Riot Girl wrote:Nope, it's garbage, like everything you post :3
You mean like everything YOU post... |

Riot Girl
You'll Cowards Don't Even Smoke Crack
3511
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Posted - 2014.08.10 17:36:00 -
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Yokai Mitsuhide wrote:Riot Girl wrote:Nope, it's garbage, like everything you post :3
You mean like everything YOU post... I'm hurt. Please take it back. Oh god. |

Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
5706
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Posted - 2014.08.10 17:43:00 -
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I seem to remember you giving a like every once in a while. People who do that are few and far between so I will miss you.
Maybe things will change with the game and we'll see you again. It seems that a lot of old timers have been bowing out. CCP needs to have a look at that and see if they can make the game fun again for blob averse pilots.
Mr Epeen  There are 86,400 seconds in a day. You just saved one of them by typing 'u' instead of 'you'.-á Congratulations, dumbass! |

TharOkha
0asis Group
911
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Posted - 2014.08.10 17:50:00 -
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Barakkus wrote:Happy trails to you, 8 years and 50+ bil removed from the economy. No you can't have my stuff :)
Can you at least buy PLEX for all your isk and trash them? You will leave EVE as market hero at least.
I hate them to be under 800m 
CODE. in a nutshell |
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