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Zakarumit CZ
Zakarum Industries Exiliar Syndicate
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Posted - 2014.08.10 07:43:00 -
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I think time has come to pass the mentioned item to someone else, if price is right. Screenshot: Mastodon BPO stats
Estimated profits: Manufacturing cost per hull using Jita prices when manufacturing your own components: 95.5 M ISK Current Jita sell price: 151 M ISK Hulls produced per month in high sec station: 10.8 Assumed installation fee: 10% manufacturing cost Profit per month when manufacturing in high sec station from BPO: 10.8*(151-1.1*95.5)=496.26 M ISK Profit per month when manufacturing in high sec station from copies made in high sec station: 620.32 M ISK Profit per month when manufacturing in high sec POS from copies made in high sec POS: 22.5*(151-1.1*0.98*95.5)=1081.14 M ISK ...additional very nice profits can be achieved when using teams or when using FW/0.0 stations for the manufacturing. I recommand doing your own math for your specific case.
Starting bid: 80b ISK Reserve: Hidden Buyout: Make me an offer
Auction ends on 18th August when downtime hits Tranquillity. BPO is in production and can be contracted about the time auction ends. Lowball offers will be treated as free bumps, I am not in desperate need to sell this BPO. |
Big Lynx
Destructive Mechanics Quam'Nocent
574
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Posted - 2014.08.10 11:03:00 -
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20b |
Zakarumit CZ
Zakarum Industries Exiliar Syndicate
183
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Posted - 2014.08.11 15:45:00 -
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Up we go, keep the offers coming. |
Elysium Mons
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.08.11 16:56:00 -
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25 |
Zakarumit CZ
Zakarum Industries Exiliar Syndicate
183
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Posted - 2014.08.12 19:23:00 -
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Mastodon is pretty popular after the industrial changes - own its BPO to take advantage ! |
Zakarumit CZ
Zakarum Industries Exiliar Syndicate
183
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Posted - 2014.08.13 17:09:00 -
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Up we go, looking for better offers |
Elysium Mons
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.08.13 17:12:00 -
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With the recent industrial changes, and the EXTREMELY murky future of t2 bpos/invention, you won't see much better than this. I'll offer you a 30b buyout. |
Outing
Uncharted Battleground
1
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Posted - 2014.08.13 17:43:00 -
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30b |
Zakarumit CZ
Zakarum Industries Exiliar Syndicate
183
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Posted - 2014.08.13 17:58:00 -
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Elysium Mons wrote:With the recent industrial changes, and the EXTREMELY murky future of t2 bpos/invention, you won't see much better than this. I'll offer you a 30b buyout. Recent industrial changes werent very good indeed, but I dont see them as very bad for T2 BPOs either. And future of T2 BPOs is a pure speculation. Actually the only thing CCP confirmed some time ago was, that if they remove them, they would be reimbursed. They can very well stay ingame or they can be very well reimbursed with some very interesting reimbursement. Noone really knows
...also from some recent forums auctions it seems people are still welling to spend much more than 30b on T2 ship BPOs |
Zakarumit CZ
Zakarum Industries Exiliar Syndicate
183
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Posted - 2014.08.14 16:29:00 -
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Up we go again |
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Zakarumit CZ
Zakarum Industries Exiliar Syndicate
183
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Posted - 2014.08.15 17:33:00 -
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This print is looking for a new owner |
Mr Omniblivion
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
41
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Posted - 2014.08.15 17:49:00 -
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Edit: welp, this isn't the T2 BPO I'm looking for |
Chira Netanru
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2014.08.15 21:20:00 -
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40 billion |
Zakarumit CZ
Zakarum Industries Exiliar Syndicate
183
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Posted - 2014.08.16 18:09:00 -
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Keep the offers coming! ...I am willing to consider trade for PLEX and AT ships (no scams please, lets save our time). Feel free to send me PM as well, if you want to discuss in private. |
Zakarumit CZ
Zakarum Industries Exiliar Syndicate
183
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Posted - 2014.08.17 16:47:00 -
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We are ending tomorrow, show me your best! No offers so far to convince me selling this sweetie. |
Ncc 1709
Fusion Enterprises Ltd Brothers of Tangra
48
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Posted - 2014.08.17 23:09:00 -
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The recent Fix to T2 Bpo's makes this a total of 10%(tops) better than invention. its not even worth the 30b you've been offered. such a shame (free Bump) |
Zakarumit CZ
Zakarum Industries Exiliar Syndicate
183
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Posted - 2014.08.18 12:03:00 -
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As I find offers too low, I am extending the auction by another 14 days. New end date is 1st of September. |
Zakarumit CZ
Zakarum Industries Exiliar Syndicate
183
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Posted - 2014.08.19 15:24:00 -
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Up we go again |
Shigeru Shibuya
Deadspace Exploration Conglomerates
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Posted - 2014.08.19 20:28:00 -
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Updates Some number for you Jita Sell Order Price - 151,300,000 Production Cost* - 123,307,519.26 Units Per Month - 20.68
Profit Per Year - 6,571,194,668
Production Assumptions 1) Built in a system with base cost of .09% and no team 2) Built using components bought from buy orders that you set up in jita - Using components that you build yourself is cheating because you just see the profit on the components, not on the ship.
So . . . You want 80 Billion for a BPO that makes 6.5 Billion per year . . .
For less than 35 Billion, you could buy a couple crappy ammo blueprints that will have a much greater return.
Summary . . . Someone offered you 40 Billion for it. Take the offer . . . + Free Bump |
Zakarumit CZ
Zakarum Industries Exiliar Syndicate
183
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Posted - 2014.08.20 06:28:00 -
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Shigeru Shibuya wrote:Updates Some number for you Jita Sell Order Price - 151,300,000 Production Cost* - 123,307,519.26 Units Per Month - 20.68
Profit Per Year - 6,571,194,668
Production Assumptions 1) Built in a system with base cost of .09% and no team 2) Built using components bought from buy orders that you set up in jita - Using components that you build yourself is cheating because you just see the profit on the components, not on the ship.
So . . . You want 80 Billion for a BPO that makes 6.5 Billion per year . . .
For less than 35 Billion, you could buy a couple crappy ammo blueprints that will have a much greater return.
Summary . . . Someone offered you 40 Billion for it. Take the offer . . . + Free Bump
....buying T2 components from market is just not smart, sir, as they are overpriced by 20-30 %. If you build your own, your profit increase A LOT. (See my first post). I would also like to mention the fact, that T2 BPOs were usually sold around price equal to roughly 8 years of profit. Good selection of teams can increase the profit by roughly another 25 %. |
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Mr Omniblivion
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
41
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Posted - 2014.08.20 16:59:00 -
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Zakarumit CZ wrote: If you build your own, your profit increase A LOT.
If you mine your own ore to build the t1 version, how does that affect the profitability of this BPO? |
Shigeru Shibuya
Deadspace Exploration Conglomerates
1
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Posted - 2014.08.20 19:16:00 -
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Zakarumit CZ wrote: ....buying T2 components from market is just not smart, sir, as they are overpriced by 20-30 %. If you build your own, your profit increase A LOT. (See my first post). I would also like to mention the fact, that T2 BPOs were usually sold around price equal to roughly 8 years of profit. Good selection of teams can increase the profit by roughly another 25 %.
I never said you should buy components from the market. I pointed out you shouldn't lump your profit from building components into the T2 Blueprint profit. That's just like people who say the minerals I mine are free.
Before the BPO nerf, T2 BPOs were values at 10year high sec station profit. With the unknown changes coming to invention that has dropped to 5-8years profit in high sec station.
Even given the 8 year estimate your BPO would be valued at 48,769,162,131. Well short of your reserve.
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Zakarumit CZ
Zakarum Industries Exiliar Syndicate
184
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Posted - 2014.08.21 06:13:00 -
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I dont say the components are free if you build them. But if you do, its much easier to build a ship from them and sold it than build components and sold them on the market straight. Thats just my opinion. Of course, noone can stop you from making profit simply from manufaturing components, but I dont think many people do this Anyway, that was already a bit OT, so lets stay on the auction theme |
Shigeru Shibuya
Deadspace Exploration Conglomerates
1
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Posted - 2014.08.21 15:05:00 -
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Zakarumit CZ wrote:I dont say the components are free if you build them. But if you do, its much easier to build a ship from them and sold it than build components and sold them on the market straight . Thats just my opinion. Of course, noone can stop you from making profit simply from manufaturing components, but I dont think many people do this
umm . . . Bull #1 - my calculations used component BUY order prices. How hard is it to move components to jita, click and stack and sell . . . That is certainly easier than using those some components to build a ship and then managing SELL orders to sell your ship for maximum profit.
Zakarumit CZ Anyway, that was already a bit OT, so lets stay on the auction theme[:) wrote:
Hey, if you wanted a pure auction you should have put the BPO up for auction without any commentary. it was you're idea to put in magical profit numbers. I'm just calling you out on your flawed/made up math. Edit out all your so called profit numbers and I'll be happy to redact my posts.
-Shi |
Zakarumit CZ
Zakarum Industries Exiliar Syndicate
184
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Posted - 2014.08.21 18:19:00 -
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As I said in first post, I recommand everyone to do your own math. The options where/how/with what to build are now very extensive. The profit is very good if you know how to make it, just saying. |
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ISD Ezwal
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
1979
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Posted - 2014.08.21 21:11:00 -
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Please only bump once per day. Thread locked for 24 hours to compensate.
As per Sell Orders rules: Bumping may only be done once per calendar day. More information can be found in the thread bumping guidelines located here.
Those same rules also state: 8. This forum is for selling items, you may reply to the threads with bids or questions regarding the item. All other posts are off topic and will be removed.
ISD Ezwal Captain Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department |
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Zakarumit CZ
Zakarum Industries Exiliar Syndicate
184
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Posted - 2014.08.23 18:17:00 -
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So thread was cleaned a bit and we go to the top |
Zakarumit CZ
Zakarum Industries Exiliar Syndicate
184
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Posted - 2014.08.24 19:46:00 -
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Still offering this shiny! |
Zakarumit CZ
Zakarum Industries Exiliar Syndicate
184
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Posted - 2014.08.25 19:26:00 -
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Up we go |
Zakarumit CZ
Zakarum Industries Exiliar Syndicate
185
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Posted - 2014.08.26 17:06:00 -
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It is still for sale |
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