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TharOkha
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Posted - 2014.08.14 06:27:00 -
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Siphons are worthless.
You set them to several POSes and within a few hours they are destroyed. No matter if you steal from big boys (CFC/PL etc) or from the small corps.
Considering their price (12-14m) and time they are destroyed since you deploy them, they are totally not worth.
Maybe it is this API exploit i dont know...
If the Siphons would cost 500k-1m the it would be something different.
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TharOkha
0asis Group
915
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Posted - 2014.08.14 07:32:00 -
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Chribba wrote:It's pretty similar to being able to see the notification mail when someone attacks your POS through the API - clearly an exploit knowing when you're being attacked...?
Or worse, you see the killmail of your structures. You know someone is there shooting up your stuff.
/c
Siphon unit was presented to us as something "stealth". Whats the point of this "stealth" unit if POS owner knows immediately (even he doesn't not need to be in game) that someone is stealing from him? 
it lacks logic
Siphon price is cca 14m and they are shot down within hours..... siphons are worthless piece of HW in EVE.
And now, this API thing is discussed here in GD, so even POS owners who have not been aware of this until now, will be using API as out of game proximity sensor to detect siphons .
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TharOkha
0asis Group
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Posted - 2014.08.14 13:27:00 -
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Lauresh Thellere wrote:
I and others don't think it's an exploit since it's the only real way to track siphons without going to several hundred moons and checking them on a daily basis.
somehow you missing the whole point of siphon
there are a lot of lowsec moons ut there owned by CFC/PL/N3.. faaaar from their homelands, faaaaar from their influence.
if you set up POS correctly, you dont need to visit it within 2 weeks. You can set up alt to keep it and watch it on every day basis.
But the problem with this API exploit is that you dont have to... Just look at your api (you dont even need to be in game) and you know which POS and where you need to visit to shut down this "stealth" siphon .
Ok maybe its not an exploit but siphons definitely are not working as they meant to by this way.
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TharOkha
0asis Group
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Posted - 2014.08.15 07:19:00 -
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PotatoOverdose wrote:
I suppose actually logging on and checking a silo is pretty hard, occupying your space doesn't seem to be particularly popular these days...
well this sentence sums it all up
Its not just about broken siphon mechanic but also about broken sov mechanic
3 largest entities owns 100% of sov null from which 80% of those systems are empty and lifeless. Well you know, because there is nearly infinite EHP flag there. (Why bother to shoot it and SBU it? Just move there and ninja those systems.)
And not just that. Those entities also owns almost all r32 +r64 moons in lowsec, far from their homelands and influence and yet... they don't need to be there and watch for their POSes because they can use API as out of game proximity sensor.
I agree that this is not an exploit but just broken mechanic. POS data API was used before siphons.
Its your turn CCP.
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TharOkha
0asis Group
917
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Posted - 2014.08.15 19:20:00 -
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La Nariz wrote:
They (NPC corps) only serve to make terrible threads like this and drive off new players, that's what is wrong with them. NPC corps are what's causing the subs to drop and removing them will solve all of the game's problems.
also i heard that NPC corp eat children and does not go to church on sundays !!!
NPC corps are the main reason why sov mechanic sucks and drive vets away.
NPC corps also shoot newbies directly in rookie systems and make "kill newbie in rookie frigs" contests
Thats right.... NPC corps are pure evil. If ccp removes NPC corp all will be good and flawless and all EVE problems will vanish...
Behold.. NPC corps... evil menace of EVE 
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TharOkha
0asis Group
917
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Posted - 2014.08.15 20:03:00 -
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La Nariz wrote:TharOkha wrote:also i heard that NPC corp eat children and does not go to church on sundays !!! NPC corps are the main reason why sov mechanic sucks and drive vets away. NPC corps also shoot newbies directly in rookie systems and make "kill newbie in rookie frigs" contests Thats right.... NPC corps are pure evil. If ccp removes NPC corp all will be good and flawless and all EVE problems will vanish... Behold.. NPC corps... evil menace of EVE The only solution is to remove npc corps.
NO !!! the only and final solution is to remove all spacejews.. mein furher o/
on a serious note
If you think that removing certain EVE playergroup will help to get rid all problems in eve then im afraid you are no different from that german guy in 1940s.
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