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Syndra Dreams
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Posted - 2006.07.19 11:10:00 -
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Good day everyone,
As the longtime CEO of EvEgathering.com in the silent back ground, I am sad to inform you that EvEgathering.com, after 3 years, will be shutting down permanently on August 1st 2006.
Our final news article tells why.
It has been a fun ride.... we will miss so many pilots we know and the community overall.
We wish each and everyone one of you great success.
To Acix Reborn and EvE-NN.com news network... You are the ****nit and we lub you dearly. We apologize to you personally Acix.
oh and we still have our accounts active...so attempting to troll up and start the hatred about quiting eve wont work here....
We are not quiting our accounts....
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TricksR4Cats
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Posted - 2006.07.19 11:15:00 -
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Edited by: TricksR4Cats on 19/07/2006 11:16:02 you know what, I don't even know what eve gathering is, but reading that "news" article left me with the impression of a big, long-winded whinge at something. You're having a temper tantrum and sticking 2 fingers up at... someone.. ccp? las vegas? the community? I dunno. It seems a bit childish to me.
EDIT: yay first!
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Sinlare
Gallente
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Posted - 2006.07.19 11:19:00 -
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Make sure Blackhole Bob gets some professional help, there is seriously something wrong with that guy. |
Himo Amasacia
Minmatar
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Posted - 2006.07.19 11:19:00 -
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Sad to see such a good site go. It was a very good resource and I personnally found it useful on a number of occasions.
Goodlook with all your future endevours.
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Saine
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Posted - 2006.07.19 11:22:00 -
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Best add it to the list.
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Boonaki
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.19 11:22:00 -
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Don't **** off the devs if you want their support.
Fear the Ibis of doom! |
FooB2
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.19 11:31:00 -
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k, cya.
www.EVE-Gamers.co.uk - YOUR community for EVE Gaming |
Martinus Crimson
Contraband Inc. Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2006.07.19 11:34:00 -
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I've red every ******* mail Kieron typed and they all made perfect sense to me, after what BB did with his whole helpchannel issues.
Get help and quit whining, CCP doesn't support you anymore and imo they have a damn good reason. -----------------
^^ Now i got my own exotic dancers, thnx Chribba |
Tachy
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Posted - 2006.07.19 11:36:00 -
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What a sad day in space --*=*=*--
Even with nougat, you can have a perfect moment. |
Sevarus James
Minmatar
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Posted - 2006.07.19 11:36:00 -
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Dirty pool posting that stuff from kieron on that site. After reading it, I felt slightly soiled that I'd even gone to the evegathering site in the first place.
Over reacting and acting the twelve year old having a tantrum is no way to do business with a professional corporation, regardless of motivation. ----- ------------
Updated Linux Desktop+EVE+EVE-TV |
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FooB2
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.19 11:37:00 -
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Originally by: Martinus Crimson I've red every ******* mail Kieron typed and they all made perfect sense to me, after what BB did with his whole helpchannel issues.
Get help and quit whining, CCP doesn't support you anymore and imo they have a damn good reason.
you know, even though saying this acronym for the first time probably throws me into the depths of being an official forum *****, but......
QFT
www.EVE-Gamers.co.uk - YOUR community for EVE Gaming |
Jon Hawkes
ISS Navy Task Force Interstellar Starbase Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.07.19 11:37:00 -
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You may want to take the "Heading into 2007..." banner off the front page then...
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Eldo Davip
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Posted - 2006.07.19 11:38:00 -
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Please keep it civil. To not try to flame/troll, CCP/Devs, Blackhole Bob or Eve Gathering as a company.
Regards, Eldo Davip
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Ander
Gallente
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Posted - 2006.07.19 11:39:00 -
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I read a lot of accusations about CCP "black balling" someone. From the following mail conversation, I first see one person apologizing for his past misconduction. The responce to that mail is rather harsh, but if you're given several chances to improve and yet goes on with the same stuff you can't be expected to be forgiven the 5th time you repeated the misconduction.
After the reply of CCP it looks like that person made a big rant once more + on these forums.. Not taking sides, but using evegathering's big footprint for ones own vendetta is silly. It's not at all surprising that CCP decides to pull support rather than listening rants of one person using a platform built by many.
Also... the volunteer politics/discussion shouldn't be open for anyone outside volunteers/CCP. But that's just my opinion. We had too much intrigues on the forums about the volunteers in the past. Dont want to see that again :) EVE PIRATE RAWR!11 Sig Hijack!11 - Imaran |
Eilene Fernite
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Posted - 2006.07.19 11:51:00 -
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Quick summary (the way I understand it anyway)
player: CCP will you help us with this thing we're doing? Yes or No, either is good, just let us know.
CCP: No. You've misbehaved badly, we're not risking it.
player: WTF? You said NO?? That's not what I wanted to hear. Please say yes.
CCP: Ok, we talked about it some more, but it's still No. Sorry.
player: You suck. I'm taking my website down. Hah, that'll show them.
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Ashis
Celestial Horizon Corp. Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.07.19 11:51:00 -
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It's obvious that the reason CCP would pull support from EvE Gathering is that they don't want to become more tied to an organization that posts private communications, and demonstrates a historic pattern of questionable judgement.
It's a shame really, but the fault isn't CCP "black balling" anyone, it's CCP protecting their interests from an obviously volatile organization. __________
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R3dSh1ft
Umbra Congregatio Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2006.07.19 12:01:00 -
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I agree with Kieron,
He is only trying to protect the community from the seriously offensive temper of BB, did any of you see his site after the 'incident' before.
That would make a hardened felon cry...
I appreciate the work that has been put into eve gathering as a player, but as a member of the community I wouldn't personally want CCP associating themselves with a guy like that...
BB used up his 9 lives and then some.
As for the accusations of selling unlicensed material, I dont see anywhere Kieron implied that, only that there should be no implied or explicit statement that CCP endorse the gathering. On the other hand they give you free permission to use EVE logos and the forums to advertise it...
I'm not exactly a fanboi but I have to think Kieron has made the right decision by the community here. ______________________________________
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Del ReyII
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.19 12:03:00 -
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Originally by: Eilene Fernite Quick summary (the way I understand it anyway)
player: CCP will you help us with this thing we're doing? Yes or No, either is good, just let us know.
CCP: No. You've misbehaved badly, we're not risking it.
player: WTF? You said NO?? That's not what I wanted to hear. Please say yes.
CCP: Ok, we talked about it some more, but it's still No. Sorry.
player: You suck. I'm taking my website down. Hah, that'll show them.
Thats the impression I got too. Pretty low blow posting private communications publicly I might add.
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Kahlen Rahl
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Posted - 2006.07.19 12:12:00 -
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Originally by: Eilene Fernite Quick summary (the way I understand it anyway)
player: CCP will you help us with this thing we're doing? Yes or No, either is good, just let us know.
CCP: No. You've misbehaved badly, we're not risking it.
player: WTF? You said NO?? That's not what I wanted to hear. Please say yes.
CCP: Ok, we talked about it some more, but it's still No. Sorry.
player: You suck. I'm taking my website down. Hah, that'll show them.
That might be, but please stick this in front of your little summary:
player: CCP, will you help us with this thing we're doing for the first time? We're not sure it's gonna pan out, but it would be real cool!
CCP: Sure, we will have Oveur, TomB, ActiveALLi, LeMonde and Kieron + some ISD staff there. We'll also bring prizes and some exclusive stuff to this event we're not sure will work out as well.
player: Great, well, it was a success! the place was packed, we had Urban Mongral (from EVE Radio afaik) there to host the Q&A session, everyone had a really great time! There were some nutters that even came all the way from Europe JUST to be here and meet the Devs (and their US based corp members and friends). Even CCP said they liked it and were happy we did it!
--- months pass ---
CCP: you did a bad thing in help channel bob. prepare to be CCP'dokkend!
player: bah, I'm real sorry. It was my personal emotions getting a bit out of hand there. OF course, I was just suddenly kicked out of a channel I've been helping in for over 2 years, I set up the only big EVE meeting in the US and I've done some other good things (like the newbie IGB guide).
CCP: We don't care what you've done or haven't done for the community, get lost.
player goes ahead and still tries to get the whole thing off the ground ....
--- continue with the part ms. Fernite posted please.
Now maybe you see there is a bit more to it than just someone asking for help from CCP without any prior contact of any form, besides the obvious thing that happened in the ingame help channel. (I know a few details about that as well, which I won't share here, as my personal views don't matter much in this discussion.) There are always 2 sides to every discussion.
Just think about it. Posting the email conversation with Kieron might be a bad move, it was done however AFTER the final decision was sent to Bob. I could well imagine being ****ed and dissappointed as well. |
Karunel
Nuevos Horizontes
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Posted - 2006.07.19 12:22:00 -
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Yay, finally.
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Sensor Error
0utbreak
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Posted - 2006.07.19 12:25:00 -
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so you shout and scream, and cause a lot of trouble on these forums, and then complain and throw a tantrum when CCP start to ignore you? You could quite easily hold the gathering anyway, tone it down a bit so you're not paying $10,000 a day for a premium venue, get a lower cost one and do it for the fans. So what if CCP arn't coming? people WILL still come. Just look at the London meet. Ah well, nice knowing you!
RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE!!!
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Mulkir
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Posted - 2006.07.19 12:27:00 -
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Originally by: Martinus Crimson
Get help and quit whining, CCP doesn't support you anymore and imo they have a damn good reason.
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Ashis
Celestial Horizon Corp. Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.07.19 12:29:00 -
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With all respect and empathy due to the people that have worked hard over at EvEGathering who are experiencing a loss...
Originally by: Kahlen Rahl Posting the email conversation with Kieron might be a bad move,
Might have been a bad move? If it was such a bad move - why is it still up there? Isn't this type of reactionary "bad move" further evidence that CCP made a wise decision?
Originally by: Kahlen Rahl it was done however AFTER the final decision was sent to Bob. I could well imagine being ****ed and dissappointed as well.
After the final decision? If the intention was to just "talk the talk" so CCP would support the event then kudos to CCP for their instinct and decision. I would have thought the the trust that the CCP / EvEGathering relationship was built on would have extended further then "well, they aren't involved anymore, so now I can say whatever I want."
The word integrity comes to mind.
I'm not a CCP fanboi either, and I have been outspokenly critical of directions they have taken, but this here deserves a big "thank you CCP" for protecting the best interests of their game, and by extension protecting my favorite past time! __________
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Eilene Fernite
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Posted - 2006.07.19 12:38:00 -
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Originally by: Kahlen Rahl large amount of text
My summary covers what is posted on your site. I don't know, nor do I care a lot about what happened before.
If CCP as a business don't want to affiliate with you and yours, that's their decision. Throwing a hissy fit over their decision is just more proof that CCP made the right decision.
Ayway, the point of my summary was to illustrate something. Perhaps you missed it.
First you ask CCP nicely if they still want to cooperate. You say that either a yes or a no is good, all you want is an answer. Both 'yes' and 'no' are good, as long as there's an answer.
The answer comes, it's no, and you go off like a 3 year old in the supermarket that just heard his mother tell him 'no, you can't have this piece of candy'. And you come here looking for sympathy? Good luck with that.
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HippoKing
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.19 12:44:00 -
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After reading their recent drama, I'm beginning to think that maybe Blackhole Bob would make a better goonswarm director than organiser of events
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Xriss Ravana
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Posted - 2006.07.19 12:46:00 -
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What happening in the ingame help channel? Just for us people out of the loop :P
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Gariuys
Gallente
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Posted - 2006.07.19 12:47:00 -
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Edited by: Gariuys on 19/07/2006 12:49:24
Originally by: Eldo Davip Please keep it civil. To not try to flame/troll, CCP/Devs, Blackhole Bob or Eve Gathering as a company.
Regards, Eldo Davip
Seeing as my post was removed you thought it was flaming but it's not. Seeing how responds to the whole situation I think he needs help in sorting out some issues. I'm not saying he's bonkers or anything. I'm saying that reacting like he's doing is not healthy for yourself or your enviroment.
And this is not disucssing moderation. 'Posting this in his best interest. Hope he does something with it.
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Rolath
Royal Crimson Lancers
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Posted - 2006.07.19 12:51:00 -
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YES I LIKE CAPITALS BEFORE ANYBODY SAYS ANYTHING...
YOU SAID YOU WERE QUITTING BEFORE... 3 DAYS AFTER YOUR OFFICAL STATEMENT WAS DUE YOU SAID SORRY AND CAME BACK.. WTF WAS WITH THAT?
NOW YOU SAY YOUR GONNA CONTINUE PLAYING EVE, BUT VERY PUPLICIY LINK TO A SITE WITH CCP COMMUNCAE... HAH! NEVER USED EVE-GATHERING, DON'T NEED IT. YEA I LISTEN TO EVE-NN AND YOUR VOICE IRRATATES ME.
NOW ******* LEAVE THE FORUMS ALONE AND STOP WHINING BOBBO. ___________________________
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Ann Mari
Amarr
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Posted - 2006.07.19 12:54:00 -
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I must say... After reading through all those mails I think you threw a very childish temper tantrum.
You repeatedly say that you'll understand if CCP doesn't want to continue to work with you, and when they politely say that they don't want to work with you, you throw a tantrum.
///End
"There can be no justice, if rules are absolute" "The enemy of my enemy, is my friend"
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Jags
Minmatar
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Posted - 2006.07.19 12:54:00 -
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You act like a fud with a company what do you expect ?
Shouting and screaming , abusing volunteers and staff members.
Sorry you reap what you sow.
As much as your work to set up Eve gathering 2007 was admirable , your conduct elsewhere was and continues to be deplorable IMO and the fact that you are acting like a petty 4 year old kid throwing his toys out the pram pretty much sums it up.
Gotta back CCP 100% on this one.
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