Your poll is bad and you should feel bad. Were you listening to the same townhall that I was, because Fozzie did a lot of answering. It just seems like most people didn't like those answers.

Your poll basically amounts to:

1. You agree with my opinion.
2. You're wrong.

Tthis just shows what a spoiled bunch of twats we are. Crying that dev answers werent "good enough" :facepalm: Show me another game so old and with this many subscribers where developers would go to private comms and chat with players on this level. Go cry to Blizzard about Diablo 3 being **** and see if one of them will show up to answer your questions...

I think CCP not seriously responding to 100+ pages in threads is very, very bad and also might be a bad precursor for the future. I also would like to thank Fozzie for his time, giving up his night, although most the things he responded were not in-depth or were weak promises for future stuff that we can never recall him on. If CCP was serious there would be more than one dev there.

The only thing the mass changes will make sure is less rolling, more possing up so there will be less liquid isk in the wallets of wormhole people because they simply won't do stuff. This is good for ccp my friends, because, we will pay more and plex our accounts less. Otherwise I have no idea why ccl would implement these changes.

This^^
At the end of the day they don't have to explain ANY decisions in game changes/mechanics. I don't like the changes but I'll adapt to them but I'm not gonna sit there and hold my breath until either CCP gives me what I want or I pass out.
You had a dev who, after a full day of AT commentating, is good enough to get on comms with what he knows is a hostile crowd and answer questions and put forward cases without leaking too much of the reasoning behind but held himself far better than the majority who werr just wah wah wah.
Most important he didn't move from implementation. You see this as a bad thing I see this as the best part. It does show that constant bleating won't get you a full change but a well structured argument might get if softened. This is what is needed otherwise you open the door for the bigger voices in k (especially null) to completely change our game.

Well done Fozzie for holding ground and thanks for taking time to visit with us out of TZ and in the middle of AT stuff. Shame on most of the rest of you.

As for giant conspiracy theories ...... WaterGate was a giant conspiracy this is a change in an internet space game that they have already promised they are going to monitor very closely for the negative effects a lot of us have voiced. So really what are you worried about.

The town hall was embarrassing tbh and the only people who should hold themselves up are Corbexx and Fozzie. The rest was neckbeards and crybabies.

I couldn't have summed it up better than what Axloth & AssassinationsdoneWrong have said.

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Here is what I took away from the town-hall meeting:

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Once again thank you to Fozzie for coming, it would not be an easy experience, and your poll should really have had both available as an answer.

There is a strong possibility that Fozzie was there as a figurehead, defending decisions that had been decided by others, that he had to try to put the best possible spin and response to.
He was a good spokesman, and he did try his best, and you could see how much more comfortable he was when he had the opportunity to deal with matters that he could still influence or steer towards implementation.

If this move away from discoverable and complex mechanics, that reward player skill and experience, into the world of "shake things up, people love new chaos" and "design is hard work lets use luck to decide stuff" ( more detailed reasoning and explanations in other posts) has been made by the management, then all Fozzie can do is make the best of a bad job.

And it is a bad job.

1.There will not be any changes as a result of any of the feedback provided by the wormhole community, regarding the announced Hyperion changes.

CCP Fozzie made it clear that all of the changes will be put into the game. Some of the actual numbers have been adjusted. I do not think that it was a result of player feedback, any changes were already in the works during the SiSi release.

2.CCP Fozzie nor CCP has a clear concept of what they want from wormhole space, but have a clear idea of what they DO NOT want.

4.CCP Fozzie does not like the capital escalation ISK/hour rate for wormhole space. He even went so far as to say that it is by far superior to incursions. He hinted that heGÇÖd like to see it reduced./quote]

It seems what they do not want are neckbeards forming farming empires in complete safety deep in C4 space.
They do not want people using the API kill logs to log on trap with gank capital alts (BU/QEX).
They do not want unbreakable exploitative officer Chimeras toadsitting in C5 and C6 Pulsars.
They do not want unbreakable Slowcat blobs in C5 and C6 CV.
They seem happy with C5 and C6 Magnetars for some reason.
They seem to think their changes to Red Giants mean a damn this side of giving the Supplemental Coolant Injector a rework (haha bombs, spare me).
The changes to Black Holes are better than nothing, but we'll just see where the meta goes on this.

ALL of this it is directed towards limiting the excesses that creative pilots can achieve in C5 and C6 cap escalations using effects. That strikes at the heart of the farmers, which is fine by me.

[quote]5.The statistics support that there is as much mining going on in w-space now, as there was when ore sites were a cosmic signature. Eexpect those sites to remain anoms. (No data was given on what types of ships are doing that mining. I think it is safe to safe, it is being done by a lot more frigates than barges.)

I wondered how long before the first "My way or I unsub" thin veil.

I took solace in the fact that CCP relented, looked, readjusted and will continue to monitor. The wah wah I quit approach is already proven to hardly ever happen so grow up. The change is going in so get used to it.
Thing that saddens me the most is we are WHers. That used to mean we outthought, outplayed, learned to overcome, adapt and theory our way through ANY change.

That spirit seems to be gone and that saddens me.

Well, from my POV, 99% of feedback on this forum is noise. 90% is carebears and farmers including all the C5 bears, whining that it's harder for them to farm safely. They frame their feeback like this:

I liked your post Jester. You're as PC as a sledgehammer and sometimes that's exactly whats needed.

Puff and pass bud.

I like to refer to myself as Chaotic Good))

Which nicely supplements my Chaotic Neutral.

The whole whining was about some dorks wetting their pants that someone could tackle them ON THE OUTSIDE.
Not to mention those vocal c4 peeps that see in a new c5-static a reason to leave their hole cause blob.
Or those lords that blame API-loss that they can't get pvp anymore.
Or the crowd missing that covops can't immediately cloak up anymore, 80% of the time.
Or RCC, disbanding just in time before their pvp-tactics (**** talk in local, slam the door once someone responds) getting voided.

It would be even more awesome if caps couldn't land within 12km of a wormhole even after warping to 0m, but that's probably asking to much. :___:

Pretty sure Fozzie said they put a floor on spawn distance of 2500m, so you'll never be inside the "can't cloak" radius of the wormhole.

(CCP listening to its players)

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