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Paragon Renegade
Solar Arbiters
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Posted - 2011.11.22 19:09:00 -
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T4R
What do you think about them? "Man, you aren't actually trying to do this, right? Nobody is that stupid right?"
"How wrong you are" |
Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
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Posted - 2011.11.22 19:12:00 -
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Nearly useless because once you find the person of question it becomes a station game if you are the cut breed who likes to see his opponent venting atmosphere and sucking vacume.
Only the more nefarious underhanded do things evil at a corproate desk can make a locator agent deadly useful.
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Lexmana
Imperial Stout
65
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Posted - 2011.11.22 19:20:00 -
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I think they are good at locating players but otherwise meh. |
Morganta
Peripheral Madness The Midget Mafia
382
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Posted - 2011.11.22 19:28:00 -
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Paragon Renegade wrote:?
T4R
What do you think about them?
perhaps we cut to the chase and you tell us what you think about them obviously you have an opinion or you wouldn't have posted this recon thread before making your point.
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Paragon Renegade
Solar Arbiters
127
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Posted - 2011.11.22 19:32:00 -
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Morganta wrote:Paragon Renegade wrote:?
T4R
What do you think about them? perhaps we cut to the chase and you tell us what you think about them obviously you have an opinion or you wouldn't have posted this recon thread before making your point.
They're dumb.
They substitute doing actual scouting and work by paying a nominal fee. Reminds me of local in lowsec/null.
inb4yourejustbutthurtthatsomeonestationcampedyou "Man, you aren't actually trying to do this, right? Nobody is that stupid right?"
"How wrong you are" |
Mr Kidd
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
176
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Posted - 2011.11.22 19:57:00 -
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Paragon Renegade wrote:Morganta wrote:Paragon Renegade wrote:?
T4R
What do you think about them? perhaps we cut to the chase and you tell us what you think about them obviously you have an opinion or you wouldn't have posted this recon thread before making your point. They're dumb. They substitute doing actual scouting and work by paying a nominal fee. Reminds me of local in lowsec/null. inb4yourejustbutthurtthatsomeonestationcampedyou
Locators, in enough numbers, can be very useful and some what accurate.
However, they're not perfect intel and have limitations. Their limitations are sufficient enough to categorize them as almost useless if the expectation is to immediately id someone's current location and expecting them to still be there when you arrive.
As for your comment about them being a substitute for real intel. No they are not. They're just one piece of the intel picture. If you're collecting intel on people you'd be crazy not to use them because of some self-important theory about what intel should be. You'd also be crazy if you relied upon them for all your intel.
We want breast augmentations and sluttier clothing in the NeX! |
Paragon Renegade
Solar Arbiters
127
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Posted - 2011.11.22 20:11:00 -
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Mr Kidd wrote:
Locators, in enough numbers, can be very useful and some what accurate.
However, they're not perfect intel and have limitations. Their limitations are sufficient enough to categorize them as almost useless if the expectation is to immediately id someone's current location and expecting them to still be there when you arrive.
As for your comment about them being a substitute for real intel. No they are not. They're just one piece of the intel picture. If you're collecting intel on people you'd be crazy not to use them because of some self-important theory about what intel should be. You'd also be crazy if you relied upon them for all your intel.
I never said they were a replacement to real intel, I merely said that they were substitutes in a pinch.
Well, they're perfectly suited to finding scammerers, or anyone who is an "inconvienience" to you. So they go against the whole thing of "Freedom" by allowing enemies to actually know your location/general whereabouts..
And intel should be gathered in person, not by NPC's, it goes against the spirit of the game. "Man, you aren't actually trying to do this, right? Nobody is that stupid right?"
"How wrong you are" |
Acac Sunflyier
Burning Star L.L.C.
37
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Posted - 2011.11.22 20:20:00 -
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Good to find players. Hard to find locator agents. Need a locator agent to find a locator agent. |
Maxpie
Metaphysical Utopian Society Explorations
21
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Posted - 2011.11.22 21:01:00 -
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Locators are a good feature. I would do more with the mechanic though. Maybe have them give incorrect information often with speed and accuracy increasing as your standings increase with the agent's corporation. Stuff like that. |
Jita Alt666
571
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Posted - 2011.11.22 21:37:00 -
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Maxpie wrote:Locators are a good feature. I would do more with the mechanic though. Maybe have them give incorrect information often with speed and accuracy increasing as your standings increase with the agent's corporation. Stuff like that.
I was under the impression that as your standings increase the speed does increase and as the agent level increases so does the range.
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Leah Solo
State War Academy Caldari State
5
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Posted - 2011.11.22 21:44:00 -
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Acac Sunflyier wrote:Good to find players. Hard to find locator agents. Need a locator agent to find a locator agent.
Yo dawg, I heard you need a locator agent to find a locator agent, so I put this locator agent in locator agent thread, for you to find a locator agent! |
Jita Alt666
571
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Posted - 2011.11.22 22:09:00 -
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Leah Solo wrote:Acac Sunflyier wrote:Good to find players. Hard to find locator agents. Need a locator agent to find a locator agent. Yo dawg, I heard you need a locator agent to find a locator agent, so I put this locator agent
in locator agent thread, for you to find a locator agent!
Just google: Eve Find Agent
The top link is a website called eve-agents.com
Open webpage
In search menu select Locator yes
Press enter
Well done you have found all the locator agents.
Now you can use the locator agents to find each other in game with relative ease. |
I Love Boobies
All Hail Boobies
24
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Posted - 2011.11.22 22:14:00 -
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I have access to a level 4 Locator Agent. ( o Y o ) ( o Y o ) ( o Y o ) ( o Y o ) ( o Y o ) ( o Y o ) ( o Y o ) ( o Y o ) ( o Y o ) ( o Y o ) ( o Y o ) ( o Y o )
The world would be a better place if boobies ran the world instead of boobs. |
Alyssa Yotosala
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
31
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Posted - 2011.11.22 22:18:00 -
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Paragon Renegade wrote:
I never said they were a replacement to real intel, I merely said that they were substitutes in a pinch.
Well, they're perfectly suited to finding scammerers, or anyone who is an "inconvienience" to you. So they go against the whole thing of "Freedom" by allowing enemies to actually know your location/general whereabouts..
And intel should be gathered in person, not by NPC's, it goes against the spirit of the game.
- "I never said they were a replacement to real intel, I merely said that they were substitutes in a pinch."
No, you didnt say they were a replacement to real intel, but you sure as hell implied it. But neither did you say that "they were substitutes in a pinch". Fail.
- "Well, they're perfectly suited to finding scammerers, or anyone who is an "inconvienience" to you. So they go against the whole thing of "Freedom" by allowing enemies to actually know your location/general whereabouts.."
What is this "thing of Freedom" you talk about? You are playing an MMORPG, there is nothing in the EULA that says anything about player "Freedom" in the game. Do you mean freedom from being found by your enemies? If so, you are definitely in the wrong game.
- "And intel should be gathered in person, not by NPC's, it goes against the spirit of the game."
Why do you think you have the right to tell other payers how EVE should and shouldn't be played? And what is this "spirit of the game" you talk about? Cant seem to find any mention by CCP about what this is.
Methinks you are talking out of that hole on the rear side of your lower body, again.
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Jennifer Starling
Imperial Navy Forum Patrol
353
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Posted - 2011.11.22 22:30:00 -
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Paragon Renegade wrote:?
T4R
What do you think about them? They're silly. And threacherous. If I have far better standing than my enemy why do they still betray me, their "best friend"? For every +1.0 difference in corp standing they should charge +10 million for information. |
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
348
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Posted - 2011.11.22 22:30:00 -
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I dunno, perhaps put information about an agents abilities (such as location services) as a searchable feature in... wait for it... the Agent Finder located in your cozy CQ.
Just a silly thought. To kill the enemy and break their toys!
It's not so much a mission statement,-áit's more like a family motto. |
Apollo Gabriel
Mercatoris Etherium Cartel
282
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Posted - 2011.11.22 23:48:00 -
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I think Locator agents should be buffed up. They should cost more and give you continuous feedback on player's actions for a period of time, as in "in system A" jumped to system B etc ... OR CCP should add something that allows players easier access to this information so we can do it ourselves.
Let us eat cake! -áI mean open containers in corp hangers please ... Let us stack all modules (eliminate repackaging), except damaged ones, give them a red hue/icon. Let us see damaged drones in our drone bay!
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Dai DIEDIEDIE
Arena Space Fight Corp
2
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Posted - 2011.11.23 00:03:00 -
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I always use alts to scout potential targets before deccing them so most of the time I already know where my targets are.
OP looks like a whine so I would just like to say that locator agents can also be used to help people avoid a fight. |
Wacktopia
Sicarius. Legion of The Damned.
36
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Posted - 2011.11.23 00:30:00 -
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They're wonderful for hi-sec wars... just send your alt up to wherever "Mr Pubbie McHiSec" is missioning and wait on gate for them in their agent system in some bastard ship and when they jump in. probably holding beer and pizza IRL, you will be all like BAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHHAAHA. True story, brahs. |
Mr Kidd
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
176
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Posted - 2011.11.23 00:47:00 -
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Acac Sunflyier wrote:Good to find players. Hard to find locator agents. Need a locator agent to find a locator agent.
This is an old tool, kinda onerous to use but very powerful >if< you can figure it out. Just remember some information is outdated. Like everything else in Eve, it's not perfect.
Eve Explorer
You can locate locators with it, how many jumps they are from your current location. I love to use it for the purposes that I do. It's a shame that it's not being updated. We want breast augmentations and sluttier clothing in the NeX! |
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Renan Ruivo
Hipernova Vera Cruz Alliance
344
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Posted - 2011.11.23 01:23:00 -
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good to find logged out players, and where they logged. Rated ARG for Pirates. **** you. |
Artisan Botanist
Hysteria Nexus
0
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Posted - 2011.11.23 02:26:00 -
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There's this one locator agent who is pretty hot, forgot her name |
Herr Wilkus
Aggressive Salvage Services LLC Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service
64
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Posted - 2011.11.23 04:22:00 -
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1. Gank 'Douchebag Miner' in his Hulk. Then Demand ISK from 'Douchebag Miner' to prevent a future suicide gank. 2a. IF he pays, profit. Find another miner. 2b. IF he doesn't pay, add 'Douchebag Miner' to your addressbook. 3. Use addressbook and locator agent to find him mining in some other region that he fled to. 4. Blow up another Hulk. Scold him for not paying and repeat the demand. 5. Repeat for weeks or months until he pays or quits mining. 6. Laugh in his face when he petitions you for griefing.
This business model does not work well without locator agents, so yes, I think they are valuable and there is no reason to remove them. I don't want to fly all over creation to find miners that flee 25 jumps away to hide from my attention. Just too many damn systems for that.
(And no, its not griefing. Hunting down and blowing up one person repeatedly is legal, because all 'Douchebag Miner' has to do to keep his future Hulks to fork over 200M - extortion is a completely valid activity in Eve. Refusal to pay an extortion demand does not mean that future 'regrettable and avoidable' Hulk losses suddenly constitute 'grief play'!) |
Burseg Sardaukar
Sardaukar Merc Guild General Tso's Alliance
66
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Posted - 2011.11.23 06:05:00 -
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They are a good reward for grinding standing.
And if the target is on the move, the delay is enough to make it so you still have to do a little scouting on your own.
I think their greatest strength is for hunting kill rights... which would be even better with an buff to Bounty hunting (see link in sig). We have a blog, it is terrible. How to fix Bounty Hunting |
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
348
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Posted - 2011.11.23 06:15:00 -
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Burseg Sardaukar wrote:They are a good reward for grinding standing.
And if the target is on the move, the delay is enough to make it so you still have to do a little scouting on your own.
I think their greatest strength is for hunting kill rights... which would be even better with an buff to Bounty hunting (see link in sig).
Agreed, they should be updated and closely linked with bounty hunting.
In fact, I also agree they should be capable of giving you reports of a targets movement (or lack of them) going back over a period of time... if you have the correct skills, standings, and enough money in your wallet. To kill the enemy and break their toys!
It's not so much a mission statement,-áit's more like a family motto. |
Jasmine Cordelia
Dark Magix Inc.
0
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Posted - 2012.01.02 16:53:00 -
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Tried using eve-agent.com to find a locator agent and no matter what criteria I entered it was always 'no matches found'. Anybody know if the site is broke or what? Or an alternative way to finding a locator agent? (nice to see the game Agent Finder is useless for this...go figure) |
Avensys
United Highsec Front The 99 Percent
82
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Posted - 2012.01.02 17:59:00 -
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Jasmine Cordelia wrote:Tried using eve-agent.com to find a locator agent and no matter what criteria I entered it was always 'no matches found'. Anybody know if the site is broke or what? Or an alternative way to finding a locator agent? (nice to see the game Agent Finder is useless for this...go figure) seems to be broken (for locator agents only) indeed. |
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