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Crumplecorn
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Posted - 2014.08.22 20:10:00 -
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Looks like you just can't have a thread about the kind of emergent player-driven content that makes EVE so great without the New Order becoming the very topic of discussion.
No surprise really, what tops saving highsec?
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Crumplecorn
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Posted - 2014.08.23 00:42:00 -
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Desimus Maximus wrote:LOLZ no. CODE are the highest form of highsec carebears. Ganking industrials in highsec is not pirating. Its cowardice, spineless and child-like... which makes most of CODE members fit in perfectly. In fact, all carebears and most PvPers are pathologically risk-averse, whereas Agents of the New Order readily sacrifice their ships in the name of the Saviour.
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Crumplecorn
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Posted - 2014.08.23 15:53:00 -
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Jarod Garamonde wrote:I'm thinking you don't know what "risk averse" really means. I'm thinking you don't know what "most" means.
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Crumplecorn
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Posted - 2014.09.22 21:24:00 -
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Evora Pirkibo wrote:Risk involves doubt, knowing you will be concorded involves no variables. Therefore it is not a risk, but a cost willingly paid. A cost is just a 100% risk, a risk readily accepted by CODE agents where most balk at far lower values.
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Crumplecorn
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Posted - 2014.09.22 22:39:00 -
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Evora Pirkibo wrote:No, any risk incorporates a variable. Yes. In this case the variable is set to 100%.
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Crumplecorn
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Posted - 2014.09.22 23:05:00 -
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Evora Pirkibo wrote:A variable that doesn't vary hmm? The word you are looking for is constant. If your reaction to a risk reaching 100% is to turn around and say that there is no risk, I hope you don't work anywhere important.
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Posted - 2014.09.23 01:18:00 -
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Xuixien wrote:a 100% risk is not a risk, its a certainty. risk involves the chances of something happening. The chances of something can go up to 100%.
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Crumplecorn
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Posted - 2014.09.23 01:26:00 -
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Xuixien wrote:then its not a chance, its a certainty. Evora Pirkibo wrote:There is no chance, probability, or variability at the values of 100% or 0%. A variable of 100% or 0% is no longer a probability, but a certainty.
A probability stops being a probability if it reaches 1?
Interesting.
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Crumplecorn
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Posted - 2014.09.23 01:39:00 -
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Xuixien wrote:[quote=Crumplecorn]code pilots do not risk their catalysts in a gank So there's no risk to the catalyst in a gank? I think the catalyst would beg to differ.
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Crumplecorn
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Posted - 2014.09.23 01:40:00 -
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Xuixien wrote:probability and chance are not the same thing.... So something can have a chance of happening but no probability of happening, and vice versa?
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Crumplecorn
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Posted - 2014.09.23 01:43:00 -
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Xuixien wrote:you should maybe read my entire statement, instead of quoting half of a sentence. But the rest of the statement is about certainties, not risks, which are different things, according to you, so it'as irrelevant anyway.
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Crumplecorn
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Posted - 2014.09.23 01:49:00 -
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Xuixien wrote:but your word games do not change the fact that probability and chance are different things and 100 and 0 percent odds are certainties, not chances. I'm not the one playing word games. You're the one saying that when a number goes from 0.999999999 to 1 it is now a completely different thing which requires a different name.
Xuixien wrote:you are choosing to be obtuse Is it certain that I'm being obtuse, or is there just a risk of it?
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Crumplecorn
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Posted - 2014.09.23 02:13:00 -
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Evora Pirkibo wrote:"prob-+a-+bil-+i-+ty noun \-îpr+ñ-b+Ö--êbi-l+Ö-t-ô\ : the chance that something will happen : something that has a chance of happening : a measure of how often a particular event will happen if something (such as tossing a coin) is done repeatedly" citation The chance of something happening can be 100%. In fact, you'd have to know the chance to know that it is certain.
Something either has a chance of happening or not - By a process of elimination, something that is certain has a chance of happening.
If you measure how often an event occurs, the result can be 100%.
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Crumplecorn
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Posted - 2014.09.23 02:23:00 -
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Remiel Pollard wrote:This is just rhetoric now. What's the actual point? The point is that I essentially called CODE the bravest PvPers in the game and got 10 posts debating the sematics of loss-averse vs risk-averse, and 0 contradticting the substance of the post. Therefore CODE always wins.
And I'm actually done with this little argument now too, while I am right (as it happens I'm typing probabilities into a model in another window, and they do not transmogrify into something else if I type in 1 or 0) and it has been amusing, I feel bad if I maintain this level of shiptoasting for too long.
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Posted - 2014.09.23 04:59:00 -
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Seraph Essael wrote:I think it's probably best if you turn your head sideways when next you walk through a door... :|
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