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Prince Kobol
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Posted - 2014.09.16 10:19:00 -
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Eugene Kerner wrote:If you Do not have sufficient skills for a frigate then I doubt you See fit for a battleship. Burner missions simulate a pvp fight and do not have the purpose to flush isk in your pockets.
Burner mission do not emulate PvP missions, they were never designed to emulate PvP.
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Eugene Kerner
TunDraGon Cynosural Field Theory.
1361
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Posted - 2014.09.16 10:58:00 -
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Kagura Nikon wrote:Eugene Kerner wrote:If you Do not have sufficient skills for a frigate then I doubt you See fit for a battleship. Burner missions simulate a pvp fight and do not have the purpose to flush isk in your pockets. No they do not. CCP already stated they DO NOT SIMMULATE PVP. They are just ships as powerful as a player ship can be. PVP is not in nay form like a burner mission. For someone who never did solo pvp its as close as it gets. TunDraGon is recruiting! "Also, your boobs " -á CCP Eterne, 2012 "When in doubt...make a di++k joke."-áRobin Williams - RIP
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Prince Kobol
2175
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Posted - 2014.09.16 11:11:00 -
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Eugene Kerner wrote:Kagura Nikon wrote:Eugene Kerner wrote:If you Do not have sufficient skills for a frigate then I doubt you See fit for a battleship. Burner missions simulate a pvp fight and do not have the purpose to flush isk in your pockets. No they do not. CCP already stated they DO NOT SIMMULATE PVP. They are just ships as powerful as a player ship can be. PVP is not in nay form like a burner mission. For someone who never did solo pvp its as close as it gets.
You sure about that? |
Jenn aSide
Smokin Aces.
8214
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Posted - 2014.09.16 12:38:00 -
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Cancel Align NOW wrote:Eugene Kerner wrote:Veers Belvar wrote:Eugene Kerner wrote:If you Do not have sufficient skills for a frigate then I doubt you See fit for a battleship. Burner missions simulate a pvp fight and do not have the purpose to flush isk in your pockets. My battleship skills are excellent, thank you. Some of us trained the bare minimum skills for ships under battleships, and then the perfect skillset for battleships. And ISK is not always an issue. If your BS skills are that good then you only miss around 3 weeks for perfect frigate handling. Congratulations. For an excellent Battleship Pilot: Core Support Skills - Should be all done Gunnery/Missile Support Skills - Should be all done Navigation Skills - Should be all done Main Drone Skills - Should be all done Drone Support Skills - Should be all done Armour Skills - Should be all done Shield Skills - Should be all done Rigging Skills - Should be all done Targeting Skills - Should be all done Estimated SP: 25,000,000 - 90,000,000 To access Burners you will need to do: Small (racial specific) turret/missile V Small (racial specific) turret/missile range specialisation III+ racial frigate V assault ships III+ ewar skills to V aligned to specific Burner. Estimated SP: 2,500,000 if you have all those skills at 0.
Not so.
[Daredevil, Burner Dramiel] Shadow Serpentis Armor Explosive Hardener Coreli A-Type Small Armor Repairer Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Shadow Serpentis Armor Explosive Hardener
Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I Small Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I, Navy Cap Booster 400 Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I
Shadow Serpentis Light Ion Blaster, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S Shadow Serpentis Light Ion Blaster, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S [empty high slot]
Small Hybrid Collision Accelerator I Small Anti-Kinetic Pump I Small Auxiliary Nano Pump I
What I use (anti-angel version). Thermodynamics to 4 is the most important skill It took my 3 days to get my Battleship (Rattlesnake/Machariel) flying alt to fly the above this at a level where it can beat burners without dying.
I cheat now and use an alt in a Griffin to EWAR the burners down after I get them webbed, but the above fit has kiulled burners solo. Faction IONs cost 8 mil a pop, chump change.
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Inxentas Ultramar
Ultramar Independent Contracting
1508
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Posted - 2014.09.16 13:40:00 -
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Gizznitt Malikite wrote:2.) EWAR does work on NPC's. The most obvious is ECM, TP's, and Webs. Tracks and Damps supposedly do, but NPC have really weird stats that make those forms of EWAR typically ineffective. Neuts, Scrams, and Points have no effect.
Erm... the Angel Cartel Burner is very susceptable to ECM. We beat it by jamming it as soon as it was webbed, then swamping it with frigates. You do need to apply webs first, else it will pull range. It does come back when you disengage ECM, so you can in fact disable it untill all players are in the mission pocket. |
Jenn aSide
Smokin Aces.
8217
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Posted - 2014.09.16 13:47:00 -
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Inxentas Ultramar wrote:Gizznitt Malikite wrote:2.) EWAR does work on NPC's. The most obvious is ECM, TP's, and Webs. Tracks and Damps supposedly do, but NPC have really weird stats that make those forms of EWAR typically ineffective. Neuts, Scrams, and Points have no effect. Erm... the Angel Cartel Burner is very susceptable to ECM. We beat it by jamming it as soon as it was webbed, then swamping it with frigates. You do need to apply webs first, else it will pull range. It does come back when you disengage ECM, so you can in fact disable it untill all players are in the mission pocket.
Thus is the power of ACTUALLY DOING THINGS lol. The poster you responded to most likely hadn't tried a single burner mission before declaring that EWAR doesn't work against them. It's the 1st thing i tried and I spend 3 days training an alt to use an ECM (and FoF light missiles, yay extra 20 dps lol) Griffin and it's ridiculous how easy Burner missions are now.
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AkJon Ferguson
JC Ferguson and Son Ltd Ferguson Alliance
262
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Posted - 2014.09.16 14:15:00 -
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Jenn aSide wrote:Inxentas Ultramar wrote:Gizznitt Malikite wrote:2.) EWAR does work on NPC's. The most obvious is ECM, TP's, and Webs. Tracks and Damps supposedly do, but NPC have really weird stats that make those forms of EWAR typically ineffective. Neuts, Scrams, and Points have no effect. Erm... the Angel Cartel Burner is very susceptable to ECM. We beat it by jamming it as soon as it was webbed, then swamping it with frigates. You do need to apply webs first, else it will pull range. It does come back when you disengage ECM, so you can in fact disable it untill all players are in the mission pocket. Thus is the power of ACTUALLY DOING THINGS lol. The poster you responded to most likely hadn't tried a single burner mission before declaring that EWAR doesn't work against them. It's the 1st thing i tried and I spend 3 days training an alt to use an ECM (and FoF light missiles, yay extra 20 dps lol) Griffin and it's ridiculous how easy Burner missions are now.
So now 'EWAR does work' means 'EWAR doesn't work.'?
Sounds like scrams work (to slow them down.) Can anyone else c/d?
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AkJon Ferguson
JC Ferguson and Son Ltd Ferguson Alliance
263
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Posted - 2014.09.16 14:26:00 -
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Prince Kobol wrote:Burner mission do not emulate PvP missions, they were never designed to emulate PvP.
It's kind of like an honourable 1v1 against someone who's cocky enough to tell you his fit ahead of time and has agreed not to warp off.
But no, you're right, it's not similar to a typical pvp experience.
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Eugene Kerner
TunDraGon Cynosural Field Theory.
1362
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Posted - 2014.09.16 14:28:00 -
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Prince Kobol wrote:Eugene Kerner wrote:Kagura Nikon wrote:Eugene Kerner wrote:If you Do not have sufficient skills for a frigate then I doubt you See fit for a battleship. Burner missions simulate a pvp fight and do not have the purpose to flush isk in your pockets. No they do not. CCP already stated they DO NOT SIMMULATE PVP. They are just ships as powerful as a player ship can be. PVP is not in nay form like a burner mission. For someone who never did solo pvp its as close as it gets. You sure about that? Well for some of the missions warp scramblers help a lot. Some players may have seen this module one time during tutorial and then never fitted it again because it had no need do it. Burners are hard hitting targets that can be beaten when countered propperly...much like pvp...and you can be sure the burner has no falcon alt.
TunDraGon is recruiting! "Also, your boobs " -á CCP Eterne, 2012 "When in doubt...make a di++k joke."-áRobin Williams - RIP
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NoLife NoFriends StillPosting
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
33
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Posted - 2014.09.16 15:41:00 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Paranoid Loyd wrote:Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:but instead force people to buy alts. This is how people with no friends would see it anyway. Burned. Pun fully intended.
HAHA! The irony. |
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Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
5859
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Posted - 2014.09.16 16:59:00 -
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Just for the record, Neuts and Nos also have an effect on NPC's... it's just not the effect you would expect.
NOS give you a limited amount of cap from an NPC target. Neuts reduce the NPC targets ability to repair damage as quickly.
This applies to any NPC, and has for some time now. If you like EVE Online and War Thunder content stop by my YouTube channel.-á
Ranger 1 Presents https://www.youtube.com/user/Ranger1Presents |
Jenn aSide
Smokin Aces.
8220
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Posted - 2014.09.16 17:14:00 -
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Ranger 1 wrote:Just for the record, Neuts and Nos also have an effect on NPC's... it's just not the effect you would expect.
NOS give you a limited amount of cap from an NPC target. Neuts reduce the NPC targets ability to repair damage as quickly.
This applies to any NPC, and has for some time now.
I once posted a Mach ratting fit that had a neut on it (the neut doing double duty of lowering Rat's shield/armor boost chance and giving me something to use in case a ceptor landed on me and pointed me, ceptors no like large faction neut) and another poster derided me for it because 'neuts don't do anything to NPCs'.
Grrr CCP forum rules that won't let me post that poster's nullsec ratting ships with neuts killmail grr.
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Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
5859
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Posted - 2014.09.16 17:28:00 -
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What I found somewhat amusing was that in the interview with CCP Beyesian of team Space Glitter (available on my YouTube channel) he revealed that several NPC related mechanics have only recently been repaired by his team.
His example was that NPC's in Incursions have not been remote repping each other as they are supposed to for some time now, but nobody noticed.
Well, now that it's fixed (or soon will be in the next release, he wasn't clear on that point) I'm pretty sure people will notice in a hurry. If you like EVE Online and War Thunder content stop by my YouTube channel.-á
Ranger 1 Presents https://www.youtube.com/user/Ranger1Presents |
Veers Belvar
Swordmasters of New Eden
89
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Posted - 2014.09.16 20:07:00 -
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Ranger 1 wrote:What I found somewhat amusing was that in the interview with CCP Beyesian of team Space Glitter (available on my YouTube channel) he revealed that several NPC related mechanics have only recently been repaired by his team. His example was that NPC's in Incursions have not been remote repping each other as they are supposed to for some time now, but nobody noticed. Well, now that it's fixed (or soon will be in the next release, he wasn't clear on that point) I'm pretty sure people will notice in a hurry.
Interesting...In the last few days I noticed incursion rats repping much more quickly than usual....thought it was just a quirk. I guess this could be one of those "stealth" fixes. |
Cancel Align NOW
Imperial Shipment Amarr Empire
113
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Posted - 2014.09.16 23:38:00 -
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Jenn aSide wrote:Cancel Align NOW wrote:
SP based words
Not so. More SP based words with a relevant fit attached.
I stand corrected. I will have to give that a whirl. Thanks for sharing.
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