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Kenneth Feld
Habitual Euthanasia Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2014.09.09 11:31:00 -
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There is/was a lot of confusion on this, but this is more of an issue....wonder how wide spread it is
IF YOU HAVE AN ISSUE OR DO NOT UNDERSTAND THIS MECHANIC, PLEASE MAKE YOUR OWN THREAD, THIS IS FOR PEOPLE THAT DID IT AND IT FAILED
OK, I had a bunch of ME5 BPO's I put in for research prior to Crius patch day. Almost all of them came out of research ME10 as they were supposed to
I petitioned the ones that did not come out ME10, they came out ME9 (research didn't take affect)
Basically the answer to my petition was "We can't help you, this is affecting a ton of people and IF THERE IS A FIX the fix will be global"
I am wondering how many people this affected and if there is any indication of a "FIX" coming?
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Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat Working Stiffs
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Posted - 2014.09.09 12:10:00 -
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If you had ME5 through ME9 BPO in ME research at the time, it should have come out as ME10%. If it was in TE research, it will not have.
[I wish I had realized this at the time. I have a 9% Rorqual BPO that I just paid 1.7b to get to ME10%, because I'm OCD and have ISK.]
As Crius was released July 22nd, if it hasn't been fixed yet, it probably won't. If the BPO is delivered, don't expect it to get fixed, as there is no evidence it was in research.
Otherwise a petition is your only recourse.
Crius Patch Notes wrote: For ME, ME0 blueprints become ME0% ME1 becomes ME5% ME2 becomes ME7% ME3 and ME4 become ME8% ME5 through ME9 become ME9% ME10 and above becomes ME10% |
klana depp
Tr0pa de elite. Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2014.09.09 13:18:00 -
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Tau Cabalander wrote:If you had ME5 through ME9 BPO in ME research at the time, it should have come out as ME10%.]
assuming you mean 9% here. yeah the OP means that they came out as 8% thats the whole problem.
personally, i had an aeon bpo in me 4 > 5 research that came out fine (9%) however another nyx bpo that was ALREADY me5 is now 8% and i dont know why. waiting for petition response currently.
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BooomBox
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.09.09 15:29:00 -
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Where were you researching them? Maybe this bug was due to facilities? I had 120-130 jobs in research at patch time, each of them came out as expected. I did use highsec POS for that. |
Kenneth Feld
Habitual Euthanasia Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2014.09.09 15:34:00 -
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BooomBox wrote:Where were you researching them? Maybe this bug was due to facilities? I had 120-130 jobs in research at patch time, each of them came out as expected. I did use highsec POS for that.
some were high sec pos, some were nullsec pos
26 of 32 came out fine, 2 high sec and 4 nullsec jobs came out wrong |
Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat Working Stiffs
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Posted - 2014.09.10 03:12:00 -
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klana depp wrote:Tau Cabalander wrote:If you had ME5 through ME9 BPO in ME research at the time, it should have come out as ME10%.] assuming you mean 9% here. yeah the OP means that they came out as 8% thats the whole problem. personally, i had an aeon bpo in me 4 > 5 research that came out fine (9%) however another nyx bpo that was ALREADY me5 is now 8% and i dont know why. waiting for petition response currently. No, I mean 10%.
The ML 5-9 BPO get converted to ME9%, but the active ML job will add +1 when it completed regardless of how many levels the job was for (can't go over ME10%, and all jobs add at least one level).
Example: I had a ML5 BPO in for +5. After Crius it was ME10%, still showed +5 levels, and output was limited to +1% = ME10%. |
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CCP Greyscale
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2014.09.10 11:08:00 -
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If you can list the following info for blueprints in jobs over Crius deployment, I can tell you if it's working as intended or not:
- Level before starting the job - Number of levels queued up for research - Level after delivery |
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Kenneth Feld
Habitual Euthanasia Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2014.09.10 11:48:00 -
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CCP Greyscale wrote:If you can list the following info for blueprints in jobs over Crius deployment, I can tell you if it's working as intended or not:
- Level before starting the job - Number of levels queued up for research - Level after delivery
Archon (several of these in) - before job ME5/PE1 - queued for 1 level of ME - after delivery ME-9/TE-10
Charon (several of these in) - before job ME3/PE2 - queued for 1 level of ME - after delivery ME-8/TE-14
Thanatos (several of these in) - before job ME3/PE1 - queued for 1 level of ME - after delivery ME-9/TE-14
FULL DISCLOSURE:
I had been watching threads on forums, when it change from converting BPO's after research to patch day, then add research my plans changed. I cancelled a number of jobs, you get the BPO back, but lose the slot pre crius and that forced me to unanchor labs, take to station, re package, back to POS anchor/online them and put in new jobs. I am 75% sure these BPO's were in those labs if it matters. I can't see my history that far back anymore and I am old and relying on memory, which isn't as good as it was 30 years ago for sure. I also have several of these BPO and some came out right, some didn't and I really have no way to tell which ones were researched where etc. Most of this was not tracked cause of the "deliver all" button. I hit it for manufacturing jobs not realizing the research was done and didn't notice the BPO were wrong for probably a week (more like 3 weeks) because I was building other things and never realized they were out of research.
All this being said, I know I am living on the edge here, I took every liberty that I possibly could with the conversion and used it to my advantage for sure. |
Andrew Indy
Four Pillar Production Headshot Gaming
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Posted - 2014.09.11 09:00:00 -
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Tau Cabalander wrote:If you had ME5 through ME9 BPO in ME research at the time, it should have come out as ME10%.
[I wish I had realized this at the time. I have a 9% Rorqual BPO that I just paid 1.7b to get to ME10%, because I'm OCD and have ISK. I had it in TE, as I didn't realize the in-research levels would be applied after the conversion rather than before.]
Worked out the other way for me. My Archon was 8ME and I put it in for 9ME before I read the devblog. I was pretty annoyed that it would not be perfect luckily I did not cancel the research as its now 10. I came so close to cancelling it though.
I was super stoked when it came out of research and was 10 as i was not expecting it (just hoping)
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