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CCP Merc
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2014.09.09 14:19:00 -
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Hey everyone.
This morning we deployed an update to SiSi that enables 3D previews of apparel items and ship skins in the New Eden Store. When you open up an offer in the store you will now see a 3D preview instead of the static offer image. Apparel items are by default previewed on a mannequin, but you can also pick any of your characters on the same account to try the item on by clicking their portrait in the top-left of the offer window (BONUS: when you preview items on your character you can now pan the camera vertically at will).
You may also want to check out the normal previews for items in the game since we made some significant behind-the-scenes changes to the preview system, so make sure the 3D preview of your favorite items still look pretty.
Please have a look and tell us what you think |
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Kyzer Artevis
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.09.09 15:07:00 -
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Great idea, now just seed those missing 95% of item varieties into NES and this feature will not go to waste. Thanks |
Darkblad
Hilfe is like Free Entertainment
459
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Posted - 2014.09.09 15:08:00 -
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Thanks for introducing this more helpful preview for those using the NES more frequently (than me) GÖÑ
Now a probably obvious questions: will it be possible to save a preview state and add other apparel to it. To check how I would look after a complete NES shopping spree makeover? EVE Infolinks -+-áOld and new-áPortraits |
Durzel
Questionable Ethics. Ministry of Inappropriate Footwork
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Posted - 2014.09.09 15:13:00 -
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This is probably not what you want to hear, because I wouldn't want to hear it if I was in your shoes, but....
Do you not think that your efforts in this regard are completely wasted while there is no WIS in the game?
CCP got burnt so badly by the negative reaction to Captain's Quarters that they seem (?) to have written off the idea of WIS completely. Sadly I think the reaction was moreso to do with the manner in which CQ was deployed, and forced upon us, rather than a total and everlasting abhorrence of the concept of WIS.
Right now, frankly, there is no reason to buy NEX items really. There is arguably some merit in buying ones that are visible on your character's face, but clothes? What's the point - no one will ever see them unless they manually "View Body" on you, and how often does that actually happen? You'd never know if someone did it on you anyway. In short - it's like a designer shop selling clothes that cease to exist once you walk outside the front door.
I'm loathe to say that Valve gets everything right, but in terms of their whole "clothing store" with Team Fortress 2 - they did. They instilled value and demand in their items because other players were forced to see them. Without knowing that other people will see you wearing this stuff, what is honestly the point of it? Now, I don't think WIS should be mandatory (unless you want Monument II: Revenge of the Community) but if you make WIS attractive enough then the "value", both in terms of justification for CCP creating the stuff in the first place, and the actual aspirational "buy it with Aurum" value will rise.
It seems a massive shame to me that CCP have arguably one of the best character creators in the business, and people working on clothing items that clearly a lot of work has gone into, and it's in the service of a game with ZERO interaction between avatars.
Honestly, if you guys can spare the time and it doesn't impact Eve, you should seriously consider easing the community into WIS by having a station somewhere where you can interact with other people, show off your NEX items, etc. Only then will it actually have any perceived value, and perversely the effort you're already spending creating these clothes will appear to be more productive than it currently is.
Hope you take the above as gently as it was intended, as no one likes to be undermined or told their work is of no consequence. |
Darkblad
Hilfe is like Free Entertainment
459
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Posted - 2014.09.09 15:17:00 -
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Durzel wrote:Do you not think that your efforts in this regard are completely wasted while there is no WIS in the game? I've noticed that there's several projects, I mean players, that actually like the new apparel items introduced. Even though there's no WiS, there's still the Captain's Quarter. So at least for those players, such changes are welcome. Can't tell how many there are and also can't tell how much dev time those changes keeps them from improving other parts of the game (or which ones, anyway). EVE Infolinks -+-áOld and new-áPortraits |
Noriko Mai
1471
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Posted - 2014.09.09 16:06:00 -
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While you are at it. Can you please fix the broken center (of camera rotation) positions? |
Gieriger Fuchs
Maulwurf INC
26
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Posted - 2014.09.09 17:20:00 -
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GREAT job now we need just the Station where we can see all this clothes,boots,Implants...
Sorry ccp ,but before you not bring Walking in Station or any other "Rooms" where i can see another "Player" in full optic this work is useless invested Worktime. |
Trick Johnsen
TAKEDA Industries
13
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Posted - 2014.09.09 17:22:00 -
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God Job CCP - EvE need more useless things. Use your resources for important changes not for bull **** |
DotheBarrel Roll
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Posted - 2014.09.09 17:29:00 -
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-100 |
Mizhir
Mind Games. Suddenly Spaceships.
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Posted - 2014.09.09 18:04:00 -
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Neat :D One Man Crew - Collective solo pvp |
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Levina Windstar
Mekalon Industry
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Posted - 2014.09.09 18:24:00 -
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Thank you CCP. This is a nice feature that was really missing. |
Mellianah
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.09.09 18:35:00 -
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Looking good.
I know I've been put off from buying anything, simply because there wasn't a way to preview - and at those, still high, prices risk aversion kicks in...
Now I'll only have the terrible variety to put me off - and for the record, ten identical tops of slightly different colour doesn't count as 'variety' (in my mind...) |
Lair Osen
101
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Posted - 2014.09.09 18:51:00 -
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Noriko Mai wrote:While you are at it. Can you please fix the broken center (of camera rotation) positions? Just look at my awesome boots... Edit: Is there a plan to add this to the default preview too? Kinda useless if it's limited to this horrible mess of a store.
Right click to Pan vertically |
Noriko Mai
1471
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Posted - 2014.09.09 21:24:00 -
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Lair Osen wrote:Noriko Mai wrote:While you are at it. Can you please fix the broken center (of camera rotation) positions? Just look at my awesome boots... Edit: Is there a plan to add this to the default preview too? Kinda useless if it's limited to this horrible mess of a store. Right click to Pan vertically wow thx. This is new. |
Alvatore DiMarco
Capricious Endeavours Ltd
2587
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Posted - 2014.09.09 21:47:00 -
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This is a pretty good change and something I've been wishing CCP would do for quite some time.
Now is there any chance you could replicate this functionality into the ingame previews, for apparel on the market? |
Mara Tessidar
Dark Star Safari Logistics
1155
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Posted - 2014.09.09 22:02:00 -
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This might be relevant to the game if we could actually buy a decent selection of things from the Nex store. |
Claud Tiberius
63
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Posted - 2014.09.09 23:41:00 -
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Darkblad wrote:Durzel wrote:Do you not think that your efforts in this regard are completely wasted while there is no WIS in the game? I've noticed that there's several projects, I mean players, that actually like the new apparel items introduced. Even though there's no WiS, there's still the Captain's Quarter. So at least for those players, such changes are welcome. Can't tell how many there are and also can't tell how much dev time those changes keeps them from improving other parts of the game (or which ones, anyway). It's a good feeling knowing that several players - out of thousands, will be able to benefit from this development.
Btw I bought my shirt with isk :)
To be fair I don't think it would have been to hard for the developers to accomplish this task. Most of code would have already existed. Once upon a time the Golem had a Raven hull and it looked good. Then it transformed into a plataduck. The end. |
Flamespar
Pradox One Proficiency V.
1233
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Posted - 2014.09.10 02:20:00 -
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Nice
(insert usual open the door request) EVE Chronicle: An audio drama set in the EVE universe
http://evechronicle.blogspot.com.au/ https://twitter.com/Flamespar |
Arthur Aihaken
X A X
3798
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Posted - 2014.09.10 04:02:00 -
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Does this mean we may see more ship skins? (cough) Black Raven (cough) ... I am currently away, traveling through time and will be returning last week. |
Alvatore DiMarco
Capricious Endeavours Ltd
2598
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Posted - 2014.09.10 10:48:00 -
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Mara Tessidar wrote:This might be relevant to the game if we could actually buy a decent selection of things from the Nex store. If only CCP would ever understand that. Limited, exclusive and rare items are great, but only if you have a good selection of easily-accessible items too.
Arthur Aihaken wrote:Does this mean we may see more ship skins? (cough) Black Raven (cough) ... The Raven State Issue kindly requests you to get off its lawn. |
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Bugsy VanHalen
Society of lost Souls
1042
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Posted - 2014.09.10 20:57:00 -
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What is the point in wasting effort on WiS features, when we have basically no WiS interaction in game.
At the very least allow us to visit another players captains quarters by invitation, kinda like a private convo, but with avatars.
Personbally I do not aprove of the work that would be required to actually bring us WiS, but something like visiting another players captains quarters would require no new art, just a string of code to redirect an avatar to spawn in another players captains quarters, by invition.
The only AURUM I have spent was the free stuff we were given, on some basic matching cloths for my alts. I will spend no real money, or spend isk onAURUM tokens or PLEX for AURUM until some sort of WiS interaction is available.
We do not need open public station environments were we can potentially see all other players docked at that station. That is far to heavy load, let alone the resources required to develop it. But a few small enviroments that can hold a handful of avatars at a time would at least give us some benifit from all the work that has already been done for WiS.
The NEXstore is a big fail so far. adjusting the interface is not the issue. The issue is nobody is going to spend real money on vanity items that can be destroyed, or are nothing but avatar clothing that nobody ever really see's. Seeing it in a 3D veiw window is not near adiquate, for it to be actually used, there needs to be an actual WiS environment where you can see other players avatars. That is the only way this wasted feature will get any traction.
I am assuming the only sales from the NEX store so far are from free AURUM that was handed out, or from players with insane amounts of isk buying PLEX or AURUM tokens to gain satus peices like the monicle. I think that is a fair assumption. EVE is not a game for stupid gamers, and spending real money on vanity items, that only you see is not something an inteligent gamer would do. Maybe the ship skins might do ok, buty still would only be bought by very ritch players. For most of the EVE player base it is nothing but a waste of time.
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Noriko Mai
1472
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Posted - 2014.09.10 22:05:00 -
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While the Clothing/WIS/NES feature is far from polished (especially the NES) I think it is still a good thing they update it as far as thier ressources allow it. Good job CCP Merc (+ Team?). Don't listen to the all the negative people here. Small updates are still better than no updates! |
Arthur Aihaken
X A X
3799
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Posted - 2014.09.11 12:32:00 -
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Alvatore DiMarco wrote:The Raven State Issue kindly requests you to get off its lawn. Since most of us mere mortals will never own one, it's the closest we're going to get... I am currently away, traveling through time and will be returning last week. |
Commissar Kate
Team Evil
72261
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Posted - 2014.09.11 12:55:00 -
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Awesome, this is something I always thought we should have had!
Also is there still any plans for this to happen? Why can't I wear that? || My Fanclub
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Graygor
1kB Realty 1kB Galactic
127878
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Posted - 2014.09.11 13:20:00 -
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Huzzah! "I think you should buy a new Mayan calendar. Mine has muscle cars on it." --áKenneth O'Hara
"I dont think that can happen, you can see Gray has his invuln field on in his portrait." - Commissar "Cake" Kate |
Sibyyl
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.09.11 15:24:00 -
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Is the option allowed for cross-gender previewing, such as Sibs wearing the coat Merc is sporting?
Stop tolling me. Im jnot drunk...-áIm going to stop posti --Pepper the Penguin ~ And when the seasons change, will you stand by me? ~ |
Mashie Saldana
BFG Tech
1165
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Posted - 2014.09.12 12:49:00 -
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While you are at it, can you update the normal character 3D view window to have the character do the walk animation and not just standing still?
Also in the NES, can you fix the scroll bar on the right as it is changing size depending on how far down you have scrolled. Also to scroll up and down using arrows/pgup/pgdown would be handy. Mashie Saldana Dominique Vasilkovsky
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Funzinnu BT
Pikachu's Iron Tail
79
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Posted - 2014.09.12 16:23:00 -
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need to adjust the size of the window. Too small |
Solecist Project
9918
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Posted - 2014.09.14 19:09:00 -
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Darkblad wrote:Durzel wrote:Do you not think that your efforts in this regard are completely wasted while there is no WIS in the game? I've noticed that there's several *projects*, I mean players, that actually like the new apparel items introduced. Even though there's no WiS, there's still the Captain's Quarter. So at least for those players, such changes are welcome. Can't tell how many there are and also can't tell how much dev time those changes keeps them from improving other parts of the game (or which ones, anyway). This made me giggle, even if probably unintentionally written. (:
There are people who enjoy this stuff and WiS is not needed for it. Clothing and poses add a certain amount of depth most people do not understand, because they have no idea said depth of interaction even exists....
But it does. In literally every online game out there... ... and OH BOY it turns quite a lot of people on when done right... ;) (: :) |
Rain6637
Team Evil
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Posted - 2014.09.30 10:58:00 -
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aww yiss win ty
will be redeeming PLEX for AUR once again
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