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Stephar
Amarr
Viziam
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Posted - 2006.08.03 01:45:00 -
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I've noticed that everyone seems to want more mid slots. As a rule of thumb, if everybody wants something, maybe it's too powerful?
Perhaps they could relieve some of this stress by moving modules around. For example, maybe make warp disruptors (+1) into low slot modules and keep warp scramblers (+2) as mids. There is already precedence for this with tracking enhancers/computers and cap rechargers/relays, where you have both a low & mid slot option for the same effect. Another possibility is moving multispec jammers to high slots, while keeping racial jammers in the mids.
Anyways, just tossing out some ideas. But it does seem like something needs to be done to address the popularity of mid slots. Is it just me?
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Valea Silpha
Cereal Killerz
Chimaera Pact
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Posted - 2006.08.03 01:46:00 -
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Thats so crazy it might just work
<Hammerhead> TomB is doing the nerfing
<Hammerhead> I just stand behind him, look at his monitor and shake my head |
Azural Kane
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Posted - 2006.08.03 01:47:00 -
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This is a joke... right?
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Stamm
Amarr
GALAXIAN
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Posted - 2006.08.03 01:48:00 -
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Radial idea. But really, I don't think it's a bad thing.
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Montero
Black Omega Security
E.R.A
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Posted - 2006.08.03 01:59:00 -
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This would be a bit overpowered in the example given by the OP as it would allow say a stilleto to run 9 points, or a scorp to run 22. Somehow that just seems a bit wrong to me. Not a bad concept though.
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Stamm
Amarr
GALAXIAN
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Posted - 2006.08.03 02:01:00 -
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How about simply upping the fitting and effects of stuff like tracking enhancers, ECCMs and stuff so the midslot ones weren't more powerful than the lowslot ones.
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Ghoest
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Posted - 2006.08.03 02:02:00 -
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The OP obviously doesnt shield tank.
/dismiss
Wherever you went - here you are.
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Stephar
Amarr
Viziam
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Posted - 2006.08.03 02:23:00 -
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The main reason I posted this was that I have seen numerous threads with folks whining/begging for additional mid slots. I have yet to see a thread where people are asking for another low slot. It seems to be generally accepted that a mid slot is more valuable than a low slot.
As for my idea of moving modules around... well it's just that, an idea. I would guess that being able to put a scrambler in a low slot and a jammer in your high would free up mids for shield tankers. But as it stands, nobody shield tanks because their mids are reserved for afterburners, MWD's, webbers, jammers, scramblers, painters, rechargers, injectors, disruptors, etc, etc.
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Requiescat
Crest Tech
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Posted - 2006.08.03 02:31:00 -
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 Originally by: Stephar
But as it stands, nobody shield tanks because their mids are reserved for afterburners, MWD's, webbers, jammers, scramblers, painters, rechargers, injectors, disruptors, etc, etc.
*cough* caldari?
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Darpz
Rampage Eternal
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Posted - 2006.08.03 02:38:00 -
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Originally by: Ghoest
The OP obviously doesnt shield tank.
/dismiss
he obviously is a raven pilot. he wants to be able to scramble with his low slots and jam with his 2 highslots while having a full 6 slot shield tank
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Valea Silpha
Cereal Killerz
Chimaera Pact
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Posted - 2006.08.03 02:41:00 -
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Ok yes the caldari do shield tank, but anyone who shield tanks in PvP knows its REAL hard to get a good scramble on someone while doing it.
I like the idea of having multi-specs as a high slot item, because it becomes a choice between fitting that and fitting nos, which would be good (both are overpowered, but each in their own way). I also like the idea of having to sacrifice armor to put a 20km scramble on someone.
It would break a few things in game, but its a fresh idea, and for that at least you should be commended
<Hammerhead> TomB is doing the nerfing
<Hammerhead> I just stand behind him, look at his monitor and shake my head |
Lisento Slaven
Amarr
The Drekla Consortium
New Eve Order
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Posted - 2006.08.03 02:54:00 -
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It needs looking into that's all I know. There are quite a few mods that are in the midslots that make or break a setup.
A lot of the PVP mods are midslots as well which kind of push people into armor-tanking over shield tanking. How many people armor tank their scorps these days for example? =P
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Bloodst0ne
The Priory
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Posted - 2006.08.03 02:55:00 -
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I can see this idea working.. but no I don't see it happening ever. Hi Tux!!
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Stephar
Amarr
Viziam
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Posted - 2006.08.03 03:00:00 -
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Originally by: Darpz
he obviously is a raven pilot. he wants to be able to scramble with his low slots and jam with his 2 highslots while having a full 6 slot shield tank
I actually only fly Amarr, but have been thinking about going Caldari.  Originally by: Valea Silpha
It would break a few things in game, but its a fresh idea, and for that at least you should be commended
Thanks! I already regret even mentioning my idea, as I was more interested in a discussion of whether lows were balanced with mids.
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Aramendel
Amarr
Queens of the Stone Age
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Posted - 2006.08.03 03:38:00 -
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Originally by: Stamm
How about simply upping the fitting and effects of stuff like tracking enhancers, ECCMs and stuff so the midslot ones weren't more powerful than the lowslot ones.
I do not really see why we need med slot and lowslot version of these in the first place. IMO it would be better/more balanced if EW mods are generally in med slots (whci his the case right now) and anti-EW mods in low slots (which isn't). Just like warp scramblers/disruptors are med slot and WCS are low slot.
Basically: flat out remove all old weaker low slot ECCM, tracking mods, etc. Change the current med slot sensor boosters, tracking comps and ECCMs to low slot.
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MOS DEF
Celestial Fleet
Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.08.03 07:03:00 -
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Wouldn`t it be easier to fix Jammers?
Jammers are the I-WIN button atm wich is where lots of th eamarr whining is comming from.
Amarr can`t jam so they cannot win.
Shield tanking is all nice but who would use those slots for hardeners if you can fit jammers and pwn everything?
The game is broken to such an extent that jammers should`ve been fixed with a hotfix one day after the changes. It breaks the game.
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Jenny Spitfire
Caldari
LoneStar Industries
Veritas Immortalis
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Posted - 2006.08.03 07:08:00 -
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Mid slots are not overpowered. Only 1 to 1.5 races use them. The whines are because ppl want to do everything in their soloboats.
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eLLioTT wave
Art of War
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Posted - 2006.08.03 07:19:00 -
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Originally by: Valea Silpha
Thats so crazy it might just work
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Eximius Josari
Shadow Reavers
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Posted - 2006.08.03 07:27:00 -
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Move shield tanking to low slots and make the requisite changes to mids and lows.
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Azural Kane
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Posted - 2006.08.03 07:34:00 -
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This would cause more problems than it would solve, that would require a whole array of other changes to mitigate.
Instead of changing 10 things, why not change 1 and add more slots, if you think they're needed?
Personally, why more mid slots would be nice... it really does come down to people wanting to do everything with their solo setups.
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Crange
Elite United Corp
Antigo Dominion
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Posted - 2006.08.03 07:36:00 -
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More people fitting stabs = more people wanting more mids. That and ecm is op.
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TuRtLe HeAd
Apocalypse Enterprises
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Posted - 2006.08.03 07:41:00 -
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ECM = overpowered and Lame, it used to be much better the old way (Despite the unlimited range)
Get rid of the multispec completely.
Or Increase Their fitting requirements and give jamming boats a reduction in those fitting requirements.
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turnschuh
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Posted - 2006.08.03 07:50:00 -
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I dont know why people want to change the hardslot of a module, dont you understand that the hole slot concept is well balanced and every module has its baseslot.
eg. there is no active aggression low slot module.
all hull upgrade modules are low slot modules.
all EWAR are med slot modules
expect eccm backups/singal amps
Its the same idea as making WCS a high slot module, wich would make NO SENSE at all considering the current slot concept.
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Azural Kane
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Posted - 2006.08.03 08:25:00 -
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Originally by: turnschuh
I dont know why people want to change the hardslot of a module, dont you understand that the hole slot concept is well balanced and every module has its baseslot.
eg. there is no active aggression low slot module.
all hull upgrade modules are low slot modules.
all EWAR are med slot modules
expect eccm backups/singal amps
Its the same idea as making WCS a high slot module, wich would make NO SENSE at all considering the current slot concept.
Exactly.
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4 LOM
Universal Agencies
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Posted - 2006.08.03 10:06:00 -
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Originally by: TuRtLe HeAd
Get rid of the multispec completely.
Bingo!!!, have read lots of ECM idea changes and finaly someone randomly spits a good one out in passing. I think this idea would fix ecm.
I am caldari, i sheild tank most of my pvp fittings, so between sheild tank and warpdisruptors/webs/mwd's depending on the ship i have no room for ecm, I dont fit ecm on none ecm ships because i dont have room thats a price i pay, but in return i generaly have alot of room to fit damage mods, would i like more mids? yes should i get more? NO. EVE is good because there is no one ship pwnmobile of doom and i hope they keep it that way.
Originally by: Twilight Moon
of course you have nice hair. That pod goo, is actually VO5 conditioner. 
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