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Garia666
Amarr adeptus gattacus Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.08.03 16:44:00 -
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Edited by: Garia666 on 03/08/2006 16:49:13 My setup + explanation
I have been searching for a close range setup with a good tanking. just like in the old day`s with the duramaller.
As its far from a duramaller my setup is more or less fitted for 1 vs 1 pvp And with the right skillz and using it right you can take out an tech II raven just by your self.
The setup posted on the forum is the following :
HI 4 x Heavy Pulse Laser II 3 x Medium nos II
Med 1 x Medium Capbooster II 1 x x5 webber 1 x fainth warp prohibitor I 1 x ab tech II
Low
3 x tech II hardners 2 x best nano plates you can afford ( corpum a-type energized adaptive nano ) 1 x medium armor repair II
Resists on first setup
This setup actualy truly rocks however 1 singel repairer tech II botherd me a bit so i came up with an setup with 2 repairers..
The resistances arent as good but still the lowest is 84%
Hi 4 x heavy pulse II 3 x med nos II Med 1 x 10mn ab tech II 1 x Faint warp prohibittor I 1 x Darkblood webber 1 x medium cap booster II Low 2 x medium armor rep II 2 x best nano you can afford ( Corpum a-type energized adaptive nano Darkblood adaptive nano ect ect) 1 x beta reactor control 1 x thermic hardner tech II
final word:
You should play around and see what works best for you. If you realy want to get the full potentional of this ship you probably need more out of your bonusses So my best guess is that a snipping damnation could be even better however i am still working on a good setup.
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lofty29
Gallente Tolarri Conglomerate
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Posted - 2006.08.03 16:59:00 -
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That first setup, **** me thats some good tanking! Sure, the 2nd one has 2 reps, but omfg! Thatd tank what, 900 DPS easy. The 2nd one would probably tank more, but you cant boast 90% resistances! ---------------------------
Originally by: HippoKing ...I suck at forums
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Fon Revedhort
RUS Academy Red Alliance
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Posted - 2006.08.03 17:05:00 -
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Show me the Raven you've taken out using this. That setup is the most banal one can ever invent to damnation.
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inSpirAcy
Caldari The Solopwnmobiles
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Posted - 2006.08.03 17:08:00 -
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Why would you choose a Damnation for 1v1 PvP? An Absolution would do the job much better.
The Damnation is built for gang modules.
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lofty29
Gallente Tolarri Conglomerate
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Posted - 2006.08.03 17:22:00 -
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Originally by: Fon Revedhort Show me the Raven you've taken out using this. That setup is the most banal one can ever invent to damnation.
Ive killed ravens using brutix's ---------------------------
Originally by: HippoKing ...I suck at forums
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Valea Silpha
Cereal Killerz Chimaera Pact
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Posted - 2006.08.03 19:00:00 -
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I'd go for the uber resist set-up.
Although two reps is nice, taking less damage to start with is better IMHO. Just remember that that at 90% you are taking about a third less damage than at 85%, and its more sustainable to have jsut one rep.
I would guess this chaps using a damnation becuase its a sexier model, or becuase its just what he has to hand. Not everyone can shell out for both.
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Garia666
Amarr adeptus gattacus Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.08.04 18:45:00 -
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Edited by: Garia666 on 04/08/2006 18:46:06
Originally by: Valea Silpha I'd go for the uber resist set-up.
Although two reps is nice, taking less damage to start with is better IMHO. Just remember that that at 90% you are taking about a third less damage than at 85%, and its more sustainable to have jsut one rep.
I would guess this chaps using a damnation becuase its a sexier model, or becuase its just what he has to hand. Not everyone can shell out for both.
mabe i forgot to add that you can switch those medium Nos II for the gang assits mods with otu any problem and keep the same setup.
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Foulis
Minmatar Chosen Path Center for Disease Creation
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Posted - 2006.08.04 19:35:00 -
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Next time I see you in local I'm loading thermal ammo *makes note*. ----
Cake > Pie - Imaran
Originally by: CCP Hammer Boobies
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Capt 69
Caldari Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2006.08.06 13:17:00 -
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Damnation
Heavy Pulse Laser II Heavy Pulse Laser II Heavy Pulse Laser II Heavy Pulse Laser II True Sansha Medium Nosferatu True Sansha Medium Nosferatu Corpum A-Type Medium Nosferatu
True Sansha Medium Capacitor Booster [1xCap Booster 800] Domination 10MN Afterburner Domination Warp Disruptor Domination Stasis Webifier
Corpum A-Type Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane Corpum A-Type Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane Corpum A-Type Medium Armor Repairer Core X-Type Armor Thermic Hardener Core X-Type Armor Kinetic Hardener Core X-Type Armor EM Hardener
3150 shield, 10.5/s, E/T/K/Ex=0/20/70/90 4687 armor, E/T/K/Ex=94/91/94/92 3240.0 cap, +17.64/s, -41.438/s 468.9231587837837 m/s 0.0 DPS
Hey garia o/
This setup may be aliiiitle excessive, but it has a point, if youre willing to spend the cash for the corpum EANMs, you should atleast put good faction/deepspace hardeners and repairer on it, the midslots however can NP be used with normal named mods or t2 and not lose too much because of it, same with the NOS (medium diminishing nos has the same drain and range as T2 but a lighter fitting btw ;P)
Timmy out, i hope your new Abso is treating ya allright, its better suited for what you do by far ;)
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Garia666
Amarr adeptus gattacus Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.08.06 17:46:00 -
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LOL capt :) i would just polish that bay in my hangar m8 :)
anyway as soon as i got some isk ill try it out.. :)
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LWMaverick
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Posted - 2006.08.07 09:59:00 -
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I started out with a very negative stand against fitting a damnation up for solo/small scale pvp.
But after a few mails concerning the amarr BC's/commandship, i started playing around with setups, and did a few calculations.
Youre first setup is nice on paper, but even with those high resists, 2 reps is a must imo, and the ship has the cap to sustain it(at least with this setup, which is much like the ops.)
4 t2 medium pulses 3 Dim/named mediium nosfs
Y-S8 AB 90% web 20k Scrambler Medium electro cap injector(with 800 charges)
T2 medium rep 'acco medium rep 2x t2 thermal hardeners t2 EM hardener t2 Kenetic hardener
5 t2 light drones
Setup fits with only 1.9 pg left and 53 cpu.
About 255 dps with max skills and conflag crystals(+ drones)
I havent tested it yet, but as soon as i can get my ship out of c-j, i will give it a try, and let you know.
/Mav
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LWMaverick
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Posted - 2006.08.07 10:15:00 -
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Originally by: Fon Revedhort Show me the Raven you've taken out using this. That setup is the most banal one can ever invent to damnation.
heh... This ship will tank youre raven till the end of days
And meanwhile suck youre cap dry, so unless you got backup or stabs... *pop*
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ATOMSMASHER
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Posted - 2006.08.07 11:11:00 -
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Dread Guristas Heavy Missile Launcher Dread Guristas Heavy Missile Launcher Dread Guristas Heavy Missile Launcher Dread Guristas Heavy Missile Launcher True Sansha Medium Nosferatu True Sansha Medium Nosferatu True Sansha Medium Nosferatu
Domination 10mn mwd Domination Stasis Webifier Conjunctive Radar ECCM True Sansha Cap Recharger
Centum A-Type Medium Armor Repairer True Sansha Energized Adaptive Nano True Sansha Armor EM Hardener True Sansha Armor Thermic Hardener True Sansha Armor Kinetic Hardener True Sansha Capacitor Power Relay
Drones: Hornet II x5
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Soros
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Posted - 2006.08.07 11:20:00 -
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Unles the setup specifically needs the very best officer / deadspace modules fitted wise, why does everyone find it neccessary to put gistii, corpum, dominination, bfore everything ? Just a point lol .. the setups here are very interested and i look foward to testing them out when i can finally fly the damn thing !!
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ATOMSMASHER
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Posted - 2006.08.07 11:24:00 -
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Edited by: ATOMSMASHER on 07/08/2006 11:25:10
Originally by: Soros Unles the setup specifically needs the very best officer / deadspace modules fitted wise, why does everyone find it neccessary to put gistii, corpum, dominination, bfore everything ? Just a point lol .. the setups here are very interested and i look foward to testing them out when i can finally fly the damn thing !!
why wouldn't you want to fit the best to win a fight?
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Gariuys
Evil Strangers Inc.
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Posted - 2006.08.07 11:24:00 -
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255 dps.... LOL... give me my astarte anyday, only 70-80% resist, but 1000dps with void and drones. :-D
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LWMaverick
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Posted - 2006.08.07 11:26:00 -
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Originally by: ATOMSMASHER Edited by: ATOMSMASHER on 07/08/2006 11:24:59
Originally by: Soros Unles the setup specifically needs the very best officer / deadspace modules fitted wise, why does everyone find it neccessary to put gistii, corpum, dominination, bfore everything ? Just a point lol .. the setups here are very interested and i look foward to testing them out when i can finally fly the damn thing !!
why wouldn't you want to fit the best to win a fight?
Blobs are inevitable...
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ATOMSMASHER
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Posted - 2006.08.07 11:35:00 -
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Originally by: inSpirAcy Why would you choose a Damnation for 1v1 PvP? An Absolution would do the job much better.
The Damnation is built for gang modules.
and yet another future podling who thinks inside "the box". tsk tsk...
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Angus Torg
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Posted - 2006.08.07 13:11:00 -
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I guess this tank won't resist an Blastarte for ever. But if you're lucky, the Astarte runs out of cap boosters.
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Gariuys
Evil Strangers Inc.
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Posted - 2006.08.07 13:15:00 -
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Originally by: Angus Torg I guess this tank won't resist an Blastarte for ever. But if you're lucky, the Astarte runs out of cap boosters.
And a blastarte would definetly tank 255 dps.. so...
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Dallenovic
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Posted - 2006.08.19 13:30:00 -
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Waiting for logisitcs 4 to finish and im going to try this setup for gangs.
HighSlots
1x Armored Warfare Link - Damage Control 1x Armored Warfare Link - Rapid Repair 1x Armored Warfare Link - Passive Defense 4x Heavy Beam Laser II (with Aurora M loaded Gleam M cargo)
MidSlots
2x Sensor Booster 2x tracking Computer
LowSlots
1x Corpum A-type Medium Armor Repairer 1x Corpum A-type Enregized Thermic Membrane 1x Dark Blood Energized Adaptive Nano 1x Tracking Enhancer II 2x 'Halcyon' Core Equalizer
The Idea is to sit back from the fight at about 100km? and boost the gang while snipering. Only problem ive noticed so far with this ship is the bonus reads 5% to medium energy turret optimal range rather than 10% like most other ships.
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inSpirAcy
Caldari The Solopwnmobiles
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Posted - 2006.08.19 13:38:00 -
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Originally by: ATOMSMASHER and yet another future podling who thinks inside "the box". tsk tsk...
I'm getting really tired of defending myself from crap like this. If you can't argue with facts - only, vague meaningless slurs - then don't argue at all. It makes you look incredibly incompetent.
Fact: in 1v1, the Damnation has such pathetic DPS that its slightly better tank can't make up for it. It's a gang module platform, plain and simple. The Absolution would beat it hands down, every single time.
Seriously, that comment's so stupid I don't know where to begin tearing it apart...
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Garia666
Amarr adeptus gattacus Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.08.23 03:17:00 -
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Originally by: inSpirAcy
Originally by: ATOMSMASHER and yet another future podling who thinks inside "the box". tsk tsk...
I'm getting really tired of defending myself from crap like this. If you can't argue with facts - only, vague meaningless slurs - then don't argue at all. It makes you look incredibly incompetent.
Fact: in 1v1, the Damnation has such pathetic DPS that its slightly better tank can't make up for it. It's a gang module platform, plain and simple. The Absolution would beat it hands down, every single time.
Seriously, that comment's so stupid I don't know where to begin tearing it apart...
when your out of cap there is nothing much left to tank. 2 medium nos II is enough to get most ships out of cap..
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ShadowKi
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.08.23 04:00:00 -
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Originally by: Capt 69 Damnation
Heavy Pulse Laser II Heavy Pulse Laser II Heavy Pulse Laser II Heavy Pulse Laser II True Sansha Medium Nosferatu True Sansha Medium Nosferatu Corpum A-Type Medium Nosferatu
True Sansha Medium Capacitor Booster [1xCap Booster 800] Domination 10MN Afterburner Domination Warp Disruptor Domination Stasis Webifier
Corpum A-Type Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane Corpum A-Type Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane Corpum A-Type Medium Armor Repairer Core X-Type Armor Thermic Hardener Core X-Type Armor Kinetic Hardener Core X-Type Armor EM Hardener
3150 shield, 10.5/s, E/T/K/Ex=0/20/70/90 4687 armor, E/T/K/Ex=94/91/94/92 3240.0 cap, +17.64/s, -41.438/s 468.9231587837837 m/s 0.0 DPS
Hey garia o/
This setup may be aliiiitle excessive, but it has a point, if youre willing to spend the cash for the corpum EANMs, you should atleast put good faction/deepspace hardeners and repairer on it, the midslots however can NP be used with normal named mods or t2 and not lose too much because of it, same with the NOS (medium diminishing nos has the same drain and range as T2 but a lighter fitting btw ;P)
Timmy out, i hope your new Abso is treating ya allright, its better suited for what you do by far ;)
O_o, thats a few billion in modules, crazy!
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Berrik Radhok
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2006.08.23 04:00:00 -
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Originally by: inSpirAcy
Originally by: ATOMSMASHER and yet another future podling who thinks inside "the box". tsk tsk...
I'm getting really tired of defending myself from crap like this. If you can't argue with facts - only, vague meaningless slurs - then don't argue at all. It makes you look incredibly incompetent.
Fact: in 1v1, the Damnation has such pathetic DPS that its slightly better tank can't make up for it. It's a gang module platform, plain and simple. The Absolution would beat it hands down, every single time.
Seriously, that comment's so stupid I don't know where to begin tearing it apart...
The Damnation is also half the price, looks better, and doesn't do all that much less damage. Sig removed, inappropriate content - Cortes |
Hydrogen
Art of War Cult of War
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Posted - 2006.09.05 12:14:00 -
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Edited by: Hydrogen on 05/09/2006 12:15:17
Originally by: ShadowKi
Originally by: Capt 69 Damnation
Heavy Pulse Laser II Heavy Pulse Laser II Heavy Pulse Laser II Heavy Pulse Laser II True Sansha Medium Nosferatu True Sansha Medium Nosferatu Corpum A-Type Medium Nosferatu
True Sansha Medium Capacitor Booster [1xCap Booster 800] Domination 10MN Afterburner Domination Warp Disruptor Domination Stasis Webifier
Corpum A-Type Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane Corpum A-Type Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane Corpum A-Type Medium Armor Repairer Core X-Type Armor Thermic Hardener Core X-Type Armor Kinetic Hardener Core X-Type Armor EM Hardener
3150 shield, 10.5/s, E/T/K/Ex=0/20/70/90 4687 armor, E/T/K/Ex=94/91/94/92 3240.0 cap, +17.64/s, -41.438/s 468.9231587837837 m/s 0.0 DPS
Hey garia o/
This setup may be aliiiitle excessive, but it has a point, if youre willing to spend the cash for the corpum EANMs, you should atleast put good faction/deepspace hardeners and repairer on it, the midslots however can NP be used with normal named mods or t2 and not lose too much because of it, same with the NOS (medium diminishing nos has the same drain and range as T2 but a lighter fitting btw ;P)
Timmy out, i hope your new Abso is treating ya allright, its better suited for what you do by far ;)
O_o, thats a few billion in modules, crazy!
2 x Radar ECM + dampener + scrambler + webber ...
Luckily none would fit such a setup, or? Will you 1vs1 me in your setup please
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Garia666
Amarr adeptus gattacus Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.09.05 13:41:00 -
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Edited by: Garia666 on 05/09/2006 13:41:47
Originally by: Hydrogen Edited by: Hydrogen on 05/09/2006 12:15:17
Originally by: ShadowKi
Originally by: Capt 69 Damnation
Timmy out, i hope your new Abso is treating ya allright, its better suited for what you do by far ;)
O_o, thats a few billion in modules, crazy!
2 x Radar ECM + dampener + scrambler + webber ... Luckily none would fit such a setup, or? Will you 1vs1 me in your setup please
As you can See here a Damnation only has 4 med slots..
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Ogdru Jahad
Amarr
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Posted - 2006.10.22 11:22:00 -
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lollerskates!
you guys make baby jesus cry
tis a shame no matter what setup you guys use above, a curse piloted by a decent pilot will take it down.
heavy missiles or not if ya dont believe me get hold of me ingame and we will take it to sisi -
Think your having a bad day? Imagine this, Your a siamese Twin joined at the hip,Your brother is *** & your not, His lover is comming around and you only have one bottom. |
Leandro Salazar
Aeon Industries
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Posted - 2006.10.22 11:57:00 -
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Originally by: LWMaverick
Originally by: Fon Revedhort Show me the Raven you've taken out using this. That setup is the most banal one can ever invent to damnation.
heh... This ship will tank youre raven till the end of days
And meanwhile suck youre cap dry, so unless you got backup or stabs... *pop*
A properly fitted Raven will have 2 Heavy Nos, so he would actually slowly suck the damnation dry. He might run out of ammo before that Damnation runs out of HP though ;) --------- ZOMG my sig was concordokkened! Link removed due to bad language on remote site. -wystler
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Romulus Maximus
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.10.22 13:54:00 -
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Ive not flown a Damnation...but its not that different to an Absolution. If ur using HP..u really need a MWD tbh. There damn slow. Id go for a dual rep and slightly lower resists myself.
And as said. If ur willing ot use 350 mil nanos..Use Domi Scram etc. And enough of the this ship would kill that ship. Each ship has strengths and weaknesses. Dont try to compare them directly in pvp.
Current RKK Ranking: (AMM14) Fleet Admiral - 900 kills
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