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Necrophagist42X
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.09.17 02:51:00 -
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Pilots with 50m sp decked out for indy worth nothing. Do you wanna know why this game was moved in favor of allowing lowbies to do the same thing and because of that is your a pilot salesman your hard earned work and finances are wasted if you chose to put isk into the science and indy side. post your comments allow the market to speak for itself at this point there is not much we can do about this |
NotTheSmartestCookie
New Order Logistics CODE.
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Posted - 2014.09.17 06:26:00 -
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This game isnt about selling 50m SP industry toons, it is about blowing up spaceship pixels. Everything that makes the supply of spaceship pixels cheaper is a good thing (tm). |
Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat Working Stiffs
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Posted - 2014.09.17 06:46:00 -
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Re-subbed this one (~70m SP) for another year today. I trained her since day one. Perhaps surprisingly not my primary industry character either. Still, I dressed her up, and gave her double Phanca. I probably should upgrade her implants.
I see the new markets as a challenge. I haven't figured them out yet, but I will eventually. In the off-chance that I don't, I will have enjoyed trying.
The markets are starting to stabilize, but it will probably be another 1-3 months if not disturbed further. However, the meta item changes, and invention changes, are still yet to come.
I can always find something to amuse myself with in EVE. |
Talia Valta
Valta Industries
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Posted - 2014.09.17 11:16:00 -
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Tau Cabalander wrote:Re-subbed this one (~70m SP) for another year today.
I think you missed a Science skill there lol.
An impressive character, and someone to try and match (in about 12 years)
I don't think that the markets will stabilise for a while especially if CCP create an "update" for the EVE economy.
I'm only just getting into industry and invention etc, and with the new changes coming, it's certainly going to be a challenge for me. |
Charlie Nonoke
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
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Posted - 2014.09.17 12:15:00 -
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Talia Valta wrote:Tau Cabalander wrote:Re-subbed this one (~70m SP) for another year today. I think you missed a Science skill there lol. An impressive character, and someone to try and match (in about 12 years) I don't think that the markets will stabilise for a while especially if CCP create an "update" for the EVE economy. I'm only just getting into industry and invention etc, and with the new changes coming, it's certainly going to be a challenge for me. He's missing Astronautic Engineering, which has been kind of removed from the game, as in, it's not seeded anymore. The only way to get it is to plead with a player to hand it over. The skill serves no use to players anymore.
Also... it wouldn't take you 12 years to match his character, considering it's a 2011 character, and with 70m SP.
But I agree with you that the markets will not stabilize soon, especially if CCP are regularly releasing "upgrades" to industry, resetting the speculations over and over again. |
Necrophagist42X
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.09.17 13:44:00 -
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Yea it just seems off that they made so much of the skills trained useless so with that said its sad that a 20m sp pilot focused for combat is worth more than a 50m sp pilot focused for science an indy also for the comment up top about this game being made for pew pew i love that side of the game as well but your stupid to believe that the market should change only to affect that side for the better if that was the case then maybe ccp should just give free ships an we should all just go out an pointlessly fly around killing each other oh wait that game was invented its called ace combat or flight simulator an nobody plays that crap so get smart idiot this game is made to simulate all forms of income an prosper.
Ps screw punctation i wrote this on my phone |
Team Bidders
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.09.17 15:25:00 -
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Necrophagist42X wrote:Pilots with 50m sp decked out for indy worth nothing. Do you wanna know why this game was moved in favor of allowing lowbies to do the same thing and because of that is your a pilot salesman your hard earned work and finances are wasted if you chose to put isk into the science and indy side. post your comments allow the market to speak for itself at this point there is not much we can do about this
I looked at your character info. It's really un-impressive.
Who's going to buy a so-called industry alt with so many Level 4 scientific skills? My 16M SP alt suits my need much better than yours because she can do some inventions with the highest chance of success - yours character can't. In order to bring your character to the level of my alt, I need to train it for another 1.5 month, costing 1.5 PLEX. Besides, if I want to buy a character, I want to buy a ready-to-use character, not one needs another 1.5 month training.
You should have divided your character into 3 alts - oen for mining, one for refining and one for production/science. You might get more money combined.
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Necrophagist42X
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.09.17 17:05:00 -
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In a sense i some what agree with you but i will say this building is a science you cant flood the market also being perfectionist since patch isnt giving your 16m sp pilot focused much more than me. Also being capable of mining while everything is being built is not a bad train an or being able to boost while messing with production isnt bad eithier i would love to see ypur amazing skill tree though |
Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat Working Stiffs
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Posted - 2014.09.17 18:10:00 -
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Charlie Nonoke wrote:He's missing Astronautic Engineering, which has been kind of removed from the game, as in, it's not seeded anymore. The only way to get it is to plead with a player to hand it over. The skill serves no use to players anymore. I believe the comment was in reference to Research Project Management 4, which has become a useless skill and hence not trained to 5 yet, as it is a low priority. As a memory > charisma skill, it would take about 35 days.
Currently working on the construction skills, as there is indication they will be useful after the invention overhaul.
Charlie Nonoke wrote:Also... it wouldn't take you 12 years to match his character, considering it's a 2011 character, and with 70m SP. Some would argue there are "wasted" skill points on the character: PI, freighter, mining barge, etc. There are only 44m in Science, which is about 26 months. Of course there are Production skills too, and Science "support" skills (like rigging, mining, and drones) required by BPO. I think the only remaining things that can't be built are: gas harvesters, drugs, outposts, super-capitals.
A rough estimate I like to use is 20m SP per year.
Charlie Nonoke wrote:But I agree with you that the markets will not stabilize soon, especially if CCP are regularly releasing "upgrades" to industry, resetting the speculations over and over again. Take a look at Jita prices. Many have returned to a sinusoidal behaviour after a significant crash post-Crius. Some, are slowly climbing too as the new costs are realized, example: jump freighters.
CCP has announced that they like to shake things up once in a while, and that speculation is always at your own risk |
Ginger Barbarella
2012
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Posted - 2014.09.17 21:56:00 -
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Necrophagist42X wrote:Pilots with 50m sp decked out for indy worth nothing. Do you wanna know why this game was moved in favor of allowing lowbies to do the same thing and because of that is your a pilot salesman your hard earned work and finances are wasted if you chose to put isk into the science and indy side. post your comments allow the market to speak for itself at this point there is not much we can do about this
1. What's a "lowbie"? 2. Grammar much? "Blow it all on Quafe and strippers." --- Sorlac |
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