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Thilder Ginhil
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Posted - 2006.08.05 17:32:00 -
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Maybe I'm just missing something, but I can't find anything in the rules stating how many cards a standard deck must have. The starter deck has 47 (plus 8 extra home & outer regions). Is there a minimum and a maximum? Is 47 the magic number? It does matter, because a game is lost when there are no cards left in the marketplace. Anyone know?
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Thilder Ginhil
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Posted - 2006.08.05 17:32:00 -
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Maybe I'm just missing something, but I can't find anything in the rules stating how many cards a standard deck must have. The starter deck has 47 (plus 8 extra home & outer regions). Is there a minimum and a maximum? Is 47 the magic number? It does matter, because a game is lost when there are no cards left in the marketplace. Anyone know?
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Hoshi
Blackguard Brigade Curse Coalition
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Posted - 2006.08.05 17:47:00 -
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1 Starbase 3 Regions 52 card market with no more than 4 of each kind.
Says so at the end of the rulebook. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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Thilder Ginhil
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Posted - 2006.08.05 17:59:00 -
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Bah, now I see it. It wasn't there before, really!
Thanks.
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Storm Mage
Amarr Forgotten Souls
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Posted - 2006.08.06 04:41:00 -
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Edited by: Storm Mage on 06/08/2006 04:40:58 Would that be recommended or maximum size? It seems a bit of an odd size compaired to other CCG games.
Let the lightning be your warning and the thunder your battlecry!
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Malthros Zenobia
Caldari Independent Navy Reserve Kimotoro Directive
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Posted - 2006.08.06 05:12:00 -
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It says a minimum of 52 cards in market.
Does this mean the EVE-CCG is like old-school magic where you can have a 200 card deck?
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Storm Mage
Amarr Forgotten Souls
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Posted - 2006.08.06 06:47:00 -
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Originally by: Malthros Zenobia It says a minimum of 52 cards in market.
Does this mean the EVE-CCG is like old-school magic where you can have a 200 card deck?
Oh god, I remember kids who would use every card they owned in those decks.....
Let the lightning be your warning and the thunder your battlecry!
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Malthros Zenobia
Caldari Independent Navy Reserve Kimotoro Directive
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Posted - 2006.08.06 07:17:00 -
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To be fair, back in middle school, in the year 1996, before MTG got out of hand and stupid, full mana full draw with 200+ card decks was 'cool'.
"I'm earthquaking for 86 damage everyone dies!"
/me taps a plans and points to his CoP red.
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Storm Mage
Amarr Forgotten Souls
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Posted - 2006.08.06 08:38:00 -
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After Urza's Saga/Legacy (late 90's) MTG went downhill. Mana Flare, Angelic Chorus, Palinchron, Fireball combo, infinite life, infinite mana, infinite damage (course that was also a tri color deck).
I am still trying to figure out why 52 cards + 3 outer region and starbase is the deck size instead of 60 + 3 outer region and starbase.
Let the lightning be your warning and the thunder your battlecry!
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Malthros Zenobia
Caldari Independent Navy Reserve Kimotoro Directive
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Posted - 2006.08.06 17:28:00 -
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Not sure, but it's really odd that the START packs, aren't even full decks.
I mean, do they really have to give you EVERY outer region in a single starter pack?
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Hunters Presence
Amarr
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Posted - 2006.08.06 17:48:00 -
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Originally by: Storm Mage After Urza's Saga/Legacy (late 90's) MTG went downhill. Mana Flare, Angelic Chorus, Palinchron, Fireball combo, infinite life, infinite mana, infinite damage (course that was also a tri color deck).
I am still trying to figure out why 52 cards + 3 outer region and starbase is the deck size instead of 60 + 3 outer region and starbase.
It'll have probably been a game length balancing thing. -----
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Storm Mage
Amarr Forgotten Souls
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Posted - 2006.08.06 18:40:00 -
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Well the 52 is the recomended minimum, does that mean that is the official tourney deck size?
Let the lightning be your warning and the thunder your battlecry!
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Malthros Zenobia
Caldari Independent Navy Reserve Kimotoro Directive
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Posted - 2006.08.06 22:40:00 -
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I'm guessing it will but, altho I'd like to see 60 be the deck size, mainly because I'm at about 65 cards, and I don't know which 13 to drop.
Hell I don't know which FIVE to drop.
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EvilNate
Caldari Beyond Divinity Inc
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Posted - 2006.08.07 10:54:00 -
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My Gallente Deck is sitting at about 52 cards, my amarr deck is about 55 cards.
Still need to put together a Caldari deck.
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Mephysto
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Posted - 2006.08.07 11:51:00 -
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Always keep in mind that it says at least 52 cards. My current Amarr deck is over 60 (although I am looking to bring it down a little) deliberately, since I use a "House of Ill Repute" in it. For those not familier with the card:
"When a card is played from hand, its owner places the top card of his or her market on the scrap heap."
Used in conjunction with a "Furnace Mill", you can eat through your opponents market at a suprising rate. One of the guys I was playing yesterday was most upset as he watched both his megathrons go straight to the scrap heap . I still lost that game though. Damn Vexors.
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Storm Mage
Amarr Forgotten Souls
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Posted - 2006.08.07 17:30:00 -
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Well, then I think I will be using the 60 card deck size. However do you guys think that should be 60 including starbase/regions or excluding?
Let the lightning be your warning and the thunder your battlecry!
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Malthros Zenobia
Caldari Independent Navy Reserve Kimotoro Directive
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Posted - 2006.08.07 19:11:00 -
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Originally by: Mephysto Always keep in mind that it says at least 52 cards. My current Amarr deck is over 60 (although I am looking to bring it down a little) deliberately, since I use a "House of Ill Repute" in it. For those not familier with the card:
"When a card is played from hand, its owner places the top card of his or her market on the scrap heap."
Used in conjunction with a "Furnace Mill", you can eat through your opponents market at a suprising rate. One of the guys I was playing yesterday was most upset as he watched both his megathrons go straight to the scrap heap . I still lost that game though. Damn Vexors.
You people and your grinder decks.
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Sarleena
Gallente BIG R i s e
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Posted - 2006.08.08 00:47:00 -
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Originally by: Malthros Zenobia It says a minimum of 52 cards in market.
Does this mean the EVE-CCG is like old-school magic where you can have a 200 card deck?
Old school? The rules are still like that, and it not only happens, a year or two ago, it was common on the pro circuit. Battle of wits, FTW. Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in an attractive and well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, champagne in one hand, strawberries in the oth |
Sarleena
Gallente BIG R i s e
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Posted - 2006.08.08 00:50:00 -
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Originally by: Storm Mage Well, then I think I will be using the 60 card deck size. However do you guys think that should be 60 including starbase/regions or excluding?
Including, definately. Much against convention, bigger is definately not better. Quality over quantity is the way to go, you can only draw so many so quickly, and what use are all those cards you have to draw through to get to the ones you really need.
If you want to continue the MTG analogies, I know a guy who played back when MTG came out, and even recently, I've seen him build 40-card decks that are so streamlined that they can steamroll tournament-level 60-card decks, simply by trimming away the unneccesary fat. Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in an attractive and well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, champagne in one hand, strawberries in the oth |
Fretegir
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Posted - 2006.08.08 08:14:00 -
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The golden rule of CCG's
Less is more !
always build a deck with as little cards as possible. If tourney decks have a 52 card limit then build all your decks with that many.
The reason why is simple statistics. The more cards , the higher the chance you have a bad draw. The less cards the higher the chance you draw your pwoer cards
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Hunters Presence
Amarr
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Posted - 2006.08.08 16:39:00 -
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Originally by: Fretegir The golden rule of CCG's
Less is more !
always build a deck with as little cards as possible. If tourney decks have a 52 card limit then build all your decks with that many.
The reason why is simple statistics. The more cards , the higher the chance you have a bad draw. The less cards the higher the chance you draw your pwoer cards
This is very true. By shaving twenty cards off a deck I managed to push it's win percentage up to about 90%.. and it was already beating some very powerful decks before that.
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Wat0721
GalacTECH Unlimited
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Posted - 2006.08.09 08:06:00 -
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Originally by: Sarleena
Originally by: Malthros Zenobia It says a minimum of 52 cards in market.
Does this mean the EVE-CCG is like old-school magic where you can have a 200 card deck?
Old school? The rules are still like that, and it not only happens, a year or two ago, it was common on the pro circuit. Battle of wits, FTW.
<moreMtGranting> OMG HAX! I was hoping nobody would remember this card, wanted to feel special by linking it first.
Battle of Wits
Also, about the guy with the friend with the 40 card decks...has he been properly introduced to Millstone yet?
God it hurt getting milled to death. </mtgstuffz> ---
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wappy
Gallente M. Corp Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.08.09 09:29:00 -
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my old MTG deck used a combination of megrim, bottomless pit coercion and mind peel.
basicaly what it did was making the opponent discard cards each and every turn he played and every card he discards was dealing 2= 8 dmg depending how many megrims i had in play.
as it was a full black deck land was no problem and the opponent got steamrolled cause no way to block the dmg dealt straight to him. and no cards to play from his hand what so ever
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Fretegir
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Posted - 2006.08.09 10:42:00 -
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Originally by: Wat0721
Also, about the guy with the friend with the 40 card decks...has he been properly introduced to Millstone yet?
God it hurt getting milled to death.
The 40 card guy has so much more chance in have a top draw he wins before being milled
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Gustha Ebbasdotter
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Posted - 2006.08.14 14:21:00 -
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Originally by: Fretegir
Originally by: Wat0721
Also, about the guy with the friend with the 40 card decks...has he been properly introduced to Millstone yet?
God it hurt getting milled to death.
The 40 card guy has so much more chance in have a top draw he wins before being milled
You guys stopped playing magic too soon Glimps the Unthinkable Twincast You can't play with a 40-card deck today :)
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Catamarack
Minmatar The Lost Souls Curse Coalition
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Posted - 2006.08.15 10:01:00 -
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some food for thought....this past weekend at GenCon, CCP was there holding a tourney and the deck size for it was 40 cards....I don't know if this was just for this one event as most people were seeing the game for the first time or what....but it's something to think about....
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Testy Mctest
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Posted - 2006.08.15 12:02:00 -
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Originally by: Catamarack some food for thought....this past weekend at GenCon, CCP was there holding a tourney and the deck size for it was 40 cards....I don't know if this was just for this one event as most people were seeing the game for the first time or what....but it's something to think about....
I'd think that'd be because most people there will have just picked the game up, and building an effective 40 card deck is a lot simpler and less time consuming than building an effective 52 card one.
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Fretegir
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Posted - 2006.08.19 18:48:00 -
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Magic also ahs draft formats where you get a limited amout of cards to build a deck with. These always haev 40 cards minimium
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Catamarack
Minmatar The Lost Souls
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Posted - 2006.08.28 01:05:00 -
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Originally by: Fretegir Magic also ahs draft formats where you get a limited amout of cards to build a deck with. These always haev 40 cards minimium
yes it does...but the tourny there wasn't a draft format...it was pre-constructed....
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LeMonde
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Posted - 2006.09.01 11:24:00 -
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Originally by: Gustha Ebbasdotter
Originally by: Fretegir
Originally by: Wat0721
Also, about the guy with the friend with the 40 card decks...has he been properly introduced to Millstone yet?
God it hurt getting milled to death.
The 40 card guy has so much more chance in have a top draw he wins before being milled
You guys stopped playing magic too soon Glimps the Unthinkable Twincast You can't play with a 40-card deck today :)
None of these cards see any professional play, mostly due to being inconsistent and even if you manage to play the combo once, you've still got another 25-30 cards to get through.
I haven't played Eve CCG enough, but the two 'pillars' of deckbuilding for most CCG's are control and aggro, with a whole lot of combinations and mixes in between.
In MTG right now, control decks seem to be more popular and which will dominate the Eve CCG tournaments has yet to be seen, though from what I've experienced so far it seems to be aggro.
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