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Creamdream
Unlimited Potential
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Posted - 2014.09.25 01:07:00 -
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I don't get it.
In-game:
- Do whatever you want.
- Say whatever you want.
- Scam whoever you want.
On forums:
- Say one thing that ISD/CCP believe could potentially PUBLICLY harm the image of the game, even when in 90% of cases it doesn't
- Thread gets closed based on invoking some vague forum rule
And I am not talking about my threads only.
Look at every page of general forum... HALF the threads are freaking locked. This is OUTRAGEOUS. Never witnessed this is any other game. Especially does not belong in a game that is supposedly all about FREEDOM.
No troll, stating the freaking facts and if you gonna troll on this OP then **** off... serious replies only. Think about it. WHY THE HELL should EVE, of all games, have such super strict forum policies? |
Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
6527
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Posted - 2014.09.25 01:08:00 -
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IBTL
The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'Hodor'. |
DaReaper
Net 7 The Last Brigade
993
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Posted - 2014.09.25 01:09:00 -
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The policy is not strict, just dont post stupid ****. Simple OMG Comet Mining idea!!! https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=331766 |
Cannibal Kane
My Little Pony of the Apocalypse Cannibal Empire
4366
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Posted - 2014.09.25 01:10:00 -
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Being a moron on the forums does not constitute freedom to post whatever drivel a person wants. "Kane is the End Boss of Highsec." -Psychotic Monk |
Crumplecorn
Eve Cluster Explorations
1381
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Posted - 2014.09.25 01:18:00 -
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You forgot "On Teamspeak".
Anyway, 50% of threads being locked means 50% of threads are ****, redundant, whatever. And, oh look, here's another one for the pile. [witty image] - Stream |
Hiply Rustic
Aliastra Gallente Federation
192
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Posted - 2014.09.25 01:25:00 -
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There is a difference between a forum providing a reasonably free space to voice your opinions and expecting that forum to be an advocacy platform for ignorance and poor trolling.
You apparently don't get the distinction. Ralph King-Griffin wrote: "Eve deliberately excludes the stupid and the weak willied." EvE: Only the strong-willied need apply.
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Milan Nantucket
New Eden Misfits
176
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Posted - 2014.09.25 01:39:00 -
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Half the threads are lock because half of them are dumb.
In any case what mathematical computation made you arrive at 50%? |
Claud Tiberius
Fidelas Constans
72
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Posted - 2014.09.25 01:44:00 -
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Milan Nantucket wrote:Half the threads are lock because half of them are dumb.
In any case what mathematical computation made you arrive at 50%? Let me ask you a question, what mathematical computation made you conclude: all locked threads are dumb. Once upon a time the Golem had a Raven hull and it looked good. Then it transformed into a plataduck. The end. |
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
16906
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Posted - 2014.09.25 01:47:00 -
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Cough..
Quote:12. Discussion of forum moderation is prohibited.
The discussion of EVE Online forum moderation actions generally leads to flaming, trolling and baiting of our ISD CCL moderators. As such, this type of discussion is strictly prohibited under the forum rules. If you have questions regarding the actions of a moderator, please file a support ticket under the Community & Forums Category.
Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings? |
Yang Aurilen
The Mjolnir Bloc The Bloc
453
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Posted - 2014.09.25 01:47:00 -
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Hi welcome to ameri-I mean CCP where you are free*.
*Only during weekends between 10 am to 1 pm with consent from the police and a permit. Permit costs 20 plex and no littering during freedom time. Freedom time is only applicable on a specific location and cannot have more than 10 person together at once.
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Rowells
Unknown Soldiers Fidelas Constans
1356
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Posted - 2014.09.25 01:52:00 -
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OMG CENSORSHIP FREEDOM EAGLES AND REVOLUTION FIGHT THE POWER |
Ssabat Thraxx
Dominion Tenebrarum Reverberation Project
856
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Posted - 2014.09.25 01:57:00 -
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DONT BELIEVE THE HYPE!!
\m/ O.o \m/ We may never never never come home but the magic that we'll feel is worth a lifetime. \m/ RIP Ronnie James Dio \m/ |
Hengle Teron
Mew Age Outpaws
2524
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Posted - 2014.09.25 02:02:00 -
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You can say anything ingame.... as long as someone doesn't report you |
Angeal MacNova
LankTech
208
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Posted - 2014.09.25 02:04:00 -
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It's worse than that. If a group doesn't like what you have to say, they will break all sorts of rules in the thread and the most likely result in the thread locked.
Goes to show who's in control... |
Ssabat Thraxx
Dominion Tenebrarum Reverberation Project
856
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Posted - 2014.09.25 02:09:00 -
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THIS IS MADNESS!!!
\m/ O.o \m/ We may never never never come home but the magic that we'll feel is worth a lifetime. \m/ RIP Ronnie James Dio \m/ |
Torneach Structor
Emrys Enterprises
139
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Posted - 2014.09.25 02:14:00 -
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I predict a lock based on discussion of forum moderation, and maybe a pinch of ranting. |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
24628
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Posted - 2014.09.25 02:19:00 -
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Creamdream wrote:I don't get it. What's not to get? Create a thread that breaks the very simple and easy-to-understand forum rules and it gets a lock. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: Newbie skillplan 2.2. |
Lady Spank
The Intaki Ladies Deep Space Astrogation Auxiliary
3664
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Posted - 2014.09.25 03:11:00 -
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Perhaps if half of your threads get locked you should take a look at improving the quality of the content you put out there. (a¦á_a¦â) ~ It Takes a Million Years to Become Diamonds So Lets Just Burn Like Coal Until the Sky's Black ~ (a¦á_a¦â) |
Lady Spank
The Intaki Ladies Deep Space Astrogation Auxiliary
3664
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Posted - 2014.09.25 03:17:00 -
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In before the lock. (a¦á_a¦â) ~ It Takes a Million Years to Become Diamonds So Lets Just Burn Like Coal Until the Sky's Black ~ (a¦á_a¦â) |
Satisfry
Tribal Liberation Force
0
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Posted - 2014.09.25 03:22:00 -
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Cannibal Kane wrote:Being a moron on the forums does not constitute freedom to post whatever drivel a person wants.
"CRITICAL SPEECH IS NOT FREE SPEECH"
you sound like an SJW from SA |
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Satisfry
Tribal Liberation Force
0
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Posted - 2014.09.25 03:23:00 -
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Satisfry wrote:Cannibal Kane wrote:Being a moron on the forums does not constitute freedom to post whatever drivel a person wants. "CRITICAL SPEECH IS NOT FREE SPEECH" you sound like an SJW from SA
quoting myself in a locked thread 4 sniper medal |
Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE
637
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Posted - 2014.09.25 03:36:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Creamdream wrote:I don't get it. What's not to get? Create a thread that breaks the very simple and easy-to-understand forum rules and it gets a lock.
the rules are pretty easy to follow. don't think I've had a problem ever since the new forums went live. just be ever so slightly constructive and don't call anyone an idiot and things go well. You can trust me, I have a monocole |
Lady Spank
The Intaki Ladies Deep Space Astrogation Auxiliary
3665
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Posted - 2014.09.25 03:56:00 -
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You used to be able to simply infer that someone was an idiot but you can't even get away with that these days.
Probably for the best. (a¦á_a¦â) ~ It Takes a Million Years to Become Diamonds So Lets Just Burn Like Coal Until the Sky's Black ~ (a¦á_a¦â) |
Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE
638
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Posted - 2014.09.25 04:03:00 -
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Lady Spank wrote:You used to be able to simply infer that someone was an idiot but you can't even get away with that these days.
Probably for the best.
I haven't even tried that, I just play nice these days. also I try to not post naughty words when I'm really drunk as I misstype them and "evade" filters You can trust me, I have a monocole |
Sal Landry
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
230
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Posted - 2014.09.25 04:05:00 -
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*imply |
Prince Sanguine
159
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Posted - 2014.09.25 04:44:00 -
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We need a sub forum that is strictly nsfw in terms of language. As long as there are no personal threats topics don't get locked. A warning page before entering would work. Everytime you read this you are required to send 100 million isk directly to me. |
Amber Lana
Solar Vista.
21
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Posted - 2014.09.25 05:05:00 -
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IB4L |
Lady Spank
The Intaki Ladies Deep Space Astrogation Auxiliary
3667
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Posted - 2014.09.25 05:09:00 -
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Wrong. You conclude that based on x, someone is a cretin, rather than just calling them a cretin. Thanks for trying to be a smartarse instead of just looking stupid though. (a¦á_a¦â) ~ It Takes a Million Years to Become Diamonds So Lets Just Burn Like Coal Until the Sky's Black ~ (a¦á_a¦â) |
Sal Landry
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
230
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Posted - 2014.09.25 05:18:00 -
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Lady Spank wrote:Wrong. You conclude that based on x, someone is a cretin, rather than just calling them a cretin. Thanks for trying to be a smartarse instead of just looking stupid though. The ISD can't prevent you from inferring anything, inferring doesn't require posting. Nice try though. |
Satisfry
Tribal Liberation Force
0
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Posted - 2014.09.25 05:26:00 -
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Whoa
two different words for ******. Stand back guys, this is a pro |
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Charax Bouclier
Silvershield Universal
113
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Posted - 2014.09.25 05:29:00 -
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I find these forums are consistently moderated with sufficient leeway. You can have fun on the forums as long as you don't go out of your way to abuse your privelages. |
Satisfry
Tribal Liberation Force
0
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Posted - 2014.09.25 05:33:00 -
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Charax Bouclier wrote:your privelages.
check them eve newbies
http://i.imgur.com/QqCvdUT.png |
Herr Wilkus
Aggressive Salvage Services LLC
1163
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Posted - 2014.09.25 05:37:00 -
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Only 50% of them get locked?
I'm clearly an overachiever then. |
Accidentally Myname
Myname Replacement Brokerage LLC
26
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Posted - 2014.09.25 05:43:00 -
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They keep the forums from devolving into 4chan. |
Slicr
33
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Posted - 2014.09.25 06:02:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Creamdream wrote:I don't get it. What's not to get? Create a thread that breaks the very simple and easy-to-understand forum rules and it gets a lock.
After reading quite a few lock comments, one can come to realization that there is an excuse for closing any thread CCP wants.
That is why, imo there are lot of posters who belittle others, hand out likes, and try their best to promote CCP.
Best advice, post what you want and see if it gets locked. Do not take it personally - CCP sure does and so do their fanbois. If they didn't they would just move on to the next thread but some make it their mission to try and dominate their opinions and show that they are smarter than others. Who care, it is a game that people pay to play.
I believe in being Pro-Active as Opposed to Reactive. Reactive tends to be more costly in time and money.
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Grainsalt
PubSwarm Federation Greater Western Co-Prosperity Sphere
217
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Posted - 2014.09.25 06:05:00 -
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Lock incoming in 8 minutes. |
Solecist Project
I'm So Meta Even This Acronym
10164
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Posted - 2014.09.25 06:07:00 -
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WOW!
THE KANE ... IS HERE!
haven't seen you in a while. ^_^ Custom Clothing Productions proudly donated prices to the New Eden Capsuleer Writing Contest! (InCharacter only!) https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=5046531#post5046531 |
Solecist Project
I'm So Meta Even This Acronym
10164
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Posted - 2014.09.25 06:08:00 -
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Accidentally Myname wrote:They keep the forums from devolving into 4chan. Errr ... IZ?? Custom Clothing Productions proudly donated prices to the New Eden Capsuleer Writing Contest! (InCharacter only!) https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=5046531#post5046531 |
Lady Spank
The Intaki Ladies Deep Space Astrogation Auxiliary
3672
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Posted - 2014.09.25 06:08:00 -
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Satisfry wrote:this is a pro Maybe I should be a coward and use a forum alt to really drive home how relevant I am. (a¦á_a¦â) ~ It Takes a Million Years to Become Diamonds So Lets Just Burn Like Coal Until the Sky's Black ~ (a¦á_a¦â) |
Lady Spank
The Intaki Ladies Deep Space Astrogation Auxiliary
3672
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Posted - 2014.09.25 06:12:00 -
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Sal Landry wrote:inferring doesn't require posting. Doesn't require not posting either. Keep trying to stay relevant though. Edginess really works when you have the conviction to hide behind a forum alt.
(a¦á_a¦â) ~ It Takes a Million Years to Become Diamonds So Lets Just Burn Like Coal Until the Sky's Black ~ (a¦á_a¦â) |
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Solecist Project
I'm So Meta Even This Acronym
10164
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Posted - 2014.09.25 06:12:00 -
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Lady Spank wrote:Satisfry wrote:this is a pro Maybe I should be a coward and use a forum alt to really drive home how relevant I am. BOOM HEADSHOT!!! Custom Clothing Productions proudly donated prices to the New Eden Capsuleer Writing Contest! (InCharacter only!) https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=5046531#post5046531 |
Solette Cheli
University of Caille Gallente Federation
19
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Posted - 2014.09.25 06:20:00 -
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ib4l (Discussion of moderation and bans or something like that)
Anyway, 5 threads on page 1 of GD. First was locked because there was an open thread about the same thing, 2nd was because it wasn't in English, 4th doesn't actually have a message posted, but looks to be a redunant post (it's abut the 2nd daily downtime), 5th because there are already threads about it, 6th because there are already threads about it. In case you haven't guessed, people don't use the search function much. |
Priscilla Project
Custom Clothing Productions
71
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Posted - 2014.09.25 06:29:00 -
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Solette Cheli wrote:ib4l (Discussion of moderation and bans or something like that)
Anyway, 5 threads on page 1 of GD. First was locked because there was an open thread about the same thing, 2nd was because it wasn't in English, 4th doesn't actually have a message posted, but looks to be a redunant post (it's abut the 2nd daily downtime), 5th because there are already threads about it, 6th because there are already threads about it. In case you haven't guessed, people don't use the search function much. They don't, yes. It's in a bad place on the site, does not motivate useage and people don't care. (to say nicely that they are daft)
The Daily Disconnect was a lighting-rod thread to catch all the ranters. pointing at the sticky thread is completely disconnected from reality, because people do not work that way as i pointed out in said sticky thread.
GD got considerably slower over the whole last twelve months. The problem is that there isn't really much following what has left. We can hope that the era of ISD Ezwal brings change... but that's doubtfull.
Most of the time of the day it seems there are no ISDs and then, in USTZ (where admittedly the most daft people live) we got TWO.
Well... that's how it is. *shrugs* Another satisfied customer! https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=374461 Check out the attractive miiral in her new 'Avenue' short dress! More to come soon! |
Tamazaki
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
16
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Posted - 2014.09.25 07:10:00 -
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This forum is full of trolls, no wonder so many threads get locked when you look at the crappy predictable replies they get. |
Serene Repose
1544
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Posted - 2014.09.25 07:22:00 -
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Hi. Remember me? I left over locked posts. Sure you remember me!
This all began after the "burn Jita" incident. On the front end, out in the open, CCP "capitulated" on a few things (after a few failed attempts at trying to brass it out like only a few malcontents were "causing trouble.") However, on the back end (here) you saw a clamp down on the "types" of posts allowed.
Essentially, IMO, any posts that seemed like free expression getting out of the gate were squelched. I went so far as to engage in a back and forth with management (including carefully gathered links and screenshots), and was essentially told, "Too bad. That's sad. Live with it."
I then began "ranting" about the corporate mentality taking OVER here, and the permanent loss of the character of the relationship between EVE players and management in which we had taken so much pride in the past (good old OLD days). This resulted in one lock after another, until it was clear CCP had no intention of discussing any of this - the standard corporate insulation between the little people on the street, and the important people in the upper floors of the skyscraper (with the ISDs in full cooperation as though they'd been given and are now following their marching orders.)
The discussion has now become too convoluted and tortured in its path for the average short-attention span to follow, so I don't post anymore. Did you notice? This is why. Pride. No corporation is that important, not even this Icelandic bunch of developmentally challenged ego trippers. TYVM
Have a nice day. I have sworn upon the altar of God eternal hostility toward every form of tyranny over the mind of man.-á |
J'Poll
CDG Playgrounds
4528
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Posted - 2014.09.25 09:29:00 -
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In before lock, as it's quite obviously discussing Forum moderation, which is agains a very clear rule on the forums. Personal channel: Crazy Dutch Guy
Ever wanted to PvP but can't find people to fly with. Look no further and this chat: Redemption Road |
Celthric Kanerian
Ascendance Of New Eden Workers Trade Federation
108
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Posted - 2014.09.25 09:41:00 -
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So you want to see the same subject coming up in every post, never seeing any new ideas come up on forum? You want the trolls to have free will to do whatever the **** they want with the forum?
Think before you post. |
Vyl Vit
805
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Posted - 2014.09.25 10:24:00 -
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Celthric Kanerian wrote:So you want to see the same subject coming up in every post, never seeing any new ideas come up on forum? You want the trolls to have free will to do whatever the **** they want with the forum?
Think before you post. Well, it is generally one subject line with one thread. When it gets locked, another appears. It's not as though the board is being flooded with rule breakers requiring a digital S.W.A.T. response. When you post, don't exaggerate.
Anyone with any sense has already left town. |
Deck Cadelanne
Exigent Circumstances CAStabouts
36
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Posted - 2014.09.25 10:29:00 -
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Creamdream wrote:I don't get it. In-game:
- Do whatever you want.
- Say whatever you want.
- Scam whoever you want.
On forums:
- Say one thing that ISD/CCP believe could potentially PUBLICLY harm the image of the game, even when in 90% of cases it doesn't
- Thread gets closed based on invoking some vague forum rule
And I am not talking about my threads only. Look at every page of general forum... HALF the threads are freaking locked. This is OUTRAGEOUS. Never witnessed this is any other game. Especially does not belong in a game that is supposedly all about FREEDOM.
No troll, stating the freaking facts and if you gonna troll on this OP then **** off... serious replies only. Think about it. WHY THE HELL should EVE, of all games, have such super strict forum policies?
You seem to be suffering from the mis-conception that you have some "rights" in the game and on the forums.
You have whatever "rights" CCP (who own and operate this service) give you.
Not sure why this kind of thread keeps coming up? It's as if there are a whole bunch of folks playing EVE who think it is some sort of public service they are entitled to.
Oh, also, IBTL.
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Cannibal Kane
My Little Pony of the Apocalypse Cannibal Empire
4379
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Posted - 2014.09.25 10:48:00 -
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Solecist Project wrote:WOW!
THE KANE ... IS HERE!
haven't seen you in a while. ^_^
Traveling at the moment. Will be back into full swing mid December. "Kane is the End Boss of Highsec." -Psychotic Monk |
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Glathull
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
753
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Posted - 2014.09.25 10:51:00 -
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I like to bet ISK on which ISD applies the lock to the threads and if it will be with a funny comment or just serious and which rules will be cited and how long the threads will get before locked.
But it's so hard to collect on these bets after the thread gets locked. Hmmm. Maybe that needs its own thread. . . . I honestly feel like I just read fifty shades of dumb. --CCP Falcon |
Adrie Atticus
The Shadow Plague The Bastion
377
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Posted - 2014.09.25 10:56:00 -
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Player breaks rules in-game, they get punished, warned or banned.
Poster breaks rules on forum, they get punished, warned or banned.
These concepts are extremely hard to grasp and takes at least a 3-year education. |
Deck Cadelanne
Exigent Circumstances CAStabouts
37
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Posted - 2014.09.25 11:00:00 -
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Adrie Atticus wrote:Player breaks rules in-game, they get punished, warned or banned.
Poster breaks rules on forum, they get punished, warned or banned.
These concepts are extremely hard to grasp and takes at least a 3-year education.
That. That right there!
So easy to comprehend.
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Priscilla Project
Custom Clothing Productions
73
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Posted - 2014.09.25 11:07:00 -
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It's really interesting to see how some people understand "freedom" as something that means they are allowed to do whatever they want ... ... but everyone else isn't.
What's hilarious on a personal level, is that these people have no understanding of what freedom really is and simply keep doing what they perceive as a "want", incapable of realising that a "want" simply is an expression of an inner state.
The worst of all people are hardcore individualists, who are completely locked up in their egos. Another satisfied customer! https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=374461 Check out the attractive miiral in her new 'Avenue' short dress! More to come soon! |
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ISD Ezwal
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
2346
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Posted - 2014.09.25 11:28:00 -
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Creamdream wrote: ....Thread gets closed based on invoking some vague forum rule..... ....Think about it. WHY THE HELL should EVE, of all games, have such super strict forum policies?.... The rules are neither vague or super strict. Now if they are enforced in a strict manner or not, is dependant on several factors. For example, starting the Nth thread on the recent disconnects is bound to get your thread locked, no matter how polite you are or how well written it is.
Angeal MacNova wrote:It's worse than that. If a group doesn't like what you have to say, they will break all sorts of rules in the thread and the most likely result in the thread locked.
Goes to show who's in control... I am.
And you better believe that on my watch those trolls get deleted and the thread gets set back on track in most cases. Even if it means deleting half of that thread.
That said, this thread gets a lock.
The Rules: 12. Discussion of forum moderation is prohibited.
The discussion of EVE Online forum moderation actions generally leads to flaming, trolling and baiting of our ISD CCL moderators. As such, this type of discussion is strictly prohibited under the forum rules. If you have questions regarding the actions of a moderator, please file a petition under the Community & Forums Category. ISD Ezwal Vice Admiral Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department |
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