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Rumbaldi
Reasonable People Of Sound Mind
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Posted - 2014.09.27 14:50:00 -
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I have tried a number of in game options over the few years I've been in game in order to make ISK. I only have the 1 account with 3 toons and wanted to work towards paying for my sub with plex.
Firstly is that realistic with 1 account and 3 toons at the current plex prices?
Secondly (if realistic) what would be the best sorts of activities with a limited playtime (3 hours on weedays, a bit longer some weekends) to achieve that amount.
Of course in real terms I would need to earn above the cost of a plex in order to play for stuff in game. Ships, Modules, Skills etc
Any ideas/help would be appreciated.
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Marc Durant
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Posted - 2014.09.27 14:59:00 -
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- Missioning: steady income but quite grindy. realistic income once you get a proper ship 40-60 mil/h. When done in semi-afk mode your income plummets but it can be done while you're doing other stuff - high sec combat exploration: still grindy of sorts but it's more diverse, erratic income. 0-200 mil/h - low sec data/relic exploration: pretty much the same as high sec combat, but extra danger, and possibly time wasted, on top - mining: terribly boring but can be done (half)afk, income is low but then so is effort. ~15 mil/h - T1 production: quite probably negative income - trading: requires lots of attention, income depends on amount invested and how smart you are - scamming: terribly boring but hilarious when it works. 0-unlimited income depending on your scam and how many stupids you run into
There's more options of course but that would make a super long list. I myself do high sec combat exploration on an alt, it's soothing but varied enough to keep it interesting. If you do it right then 250-500 mil a day is fairly average. Yes, yes-áI am. Thanks for noticing.
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Dave Stark
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Posted - 2014.09.27 15:05:00 -
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if you can make 27m isk per day, you can plex an account. |
Cipher Jones
The Thomas Edwards Taco Tuesday All Stars
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Posted - 2014.09.27 15:07:00 -
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L4 missions should pay for it no problem. 50 mil for 3 hours a day on work days would net 3 bil a month. That's 3 PLEX plus 600mil, then whatever you earn on weekends.
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Abrazzar
Vardaugas Family
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Posted - 2014.09.27 15:10:00 -
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Doing PI with every character is a simple almost time investment free additional income. Check what the T2 production uses up and/or what is used as POS fuel. Those are always in demand. Sovereignty and Population New Mining Mechanics |
Eternus8lux8lucis
Journies End
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Posted - 2014.09.27 15:17:00 -
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PI on all ur toons and then even 1-2 missions a day depending on which ones they are will pay for your game time easy enough.
So no your not out of range, you might be out of skill points as such right off the bat or in the long run you might feel your only working for a plex especially early on and not have much left over but with that many hours to play a day youll be fine. Strength isnt measured in numbers but in force of will. For if one motived willful individual stands many will fall around him that are weak.
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Abrazzar
Vardaugas Family
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Posted - 2014.09.27 15:28:00 -
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One important thing to remember: Have fun! Sovereignty and Population New Mining Mechanics |
Schmata Bastanold
Black Rebel Rifter Club The Devil's Tattoo
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Posted - 2014.09.27 15:48:00 -
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Hmm, 5 years in game and you don't know how realistic is for you to earn 800mil per month? After such long time you should have at least some kind of idea about your income generation options and capabilities. Invalid signature format |
Rumbaldi
Reasonable People Of Sound Mind
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Posted - 2014.09.27 15:52:00 -
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Schmata Bastanold wrote:Hmm, 5 years in game and you don't know how realistic is for you to earn 800mil per month? After such long time you should have at least some kind of idea about your income generation options and capabilities.
I've jumped from thing to thing in that time, never really concentrating in one area, Ive made ISK in most areas but now I am specifically wanting to concentrate in one area in order to make enough to plex, but without getting the 800m (and more) as the sole thing that I do in game, therefore was just seeking opinions on other peoples best methods. |
Angeal MacNova
LankTech
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Posted - 2014.09.27 16:06:00 -
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Yeah, key is to do more than one thing.
Station trading takes time to get established but it doesn't actually require your time every minute of every day once you skill into it. Just need to take 5 to 10 minutes once a day to make adjustments. The rest of the time you just let it do its thing.
PI, once set up, will require you to haul materials to market once every few days. The rest of the time you just let it do its thing.
That still leaves you with time to do something that will require active participation from your character.
Missions/Incursions
Mining/Manufacturing
FW
Take your pick. Keep in mind that the isk from missions is an accumulation of bounties/insignias, loot, salvage, reward & bonus, and LP. Also keep in mind that if we are talking about what gets you isk into your wallet, it will take time to convert the loot, salvage, insignias, and LP bought items to isk via the market. Time that is often ignored in the process of calculating isk/hour of running missions making the isk/hour stated an over estimation.
As for mining and manufacturing, the trick is to do both. Mine, set up a manufacturing job, then go back to mining while the job does it's thing. If you mine faster than the jobs get done, just set up another job. Eventually you will get to a point where the jobs will finish in time to receive the next stack of materials.
If you get into mining/manufacturing, then the PI you get into could be to make POS fuel. You'll just have to mine some ice. |
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Sobaan Tali
Caldari Quick Reaction Force
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Posted - 2014.09.27 16:37:00 -
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You should be fine with that amount of time. As other stated, L4s or Incursions will give you plenty enough to plex one account and then some(I do that for my account as well and still have enough to keep a personal small POS running and keep my savings account division padded). Last I checked, PI is a little slow at first, but picks up nicely after a while and makes a great addition to your other sources of income. Even mining (especially now) is doable for that sort of time block for a plex a month. |
Melvin Coulter
Rubella Solaris Test Alliance Please Ignore
247
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Posted - 2014.09.27 17:46:00 -
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join nullsec alliance do ded sites profit Move along! |
Khalm Hasal
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Posted - 2014.09.28 00:03:00 -
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That is enough time per day to plex with trading. You won't be Abidal at that amount in-game, but you can easily plex with three hours a day in-game. |
DaReaper
Net 7 The Last Brigade
999
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Posted - 2014.09.28 00:19:00 -
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you can easily solo a c3 and make around 200m an hour. so in 4 hours u have your plex OMG Comet Mining idea!!! https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=331766 |
Jace Sarice
13200
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Posted - 2014.09.28 04:18:00 -
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What do you enjoy doing? Educate yourself enough about it to be able to plex doing it. Any other path will start to feel like a job for you. |
TharOkha
0asis Group
936
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Posted - 2014.09.28 05:30:00 -
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A other said. L4s or incursions are best for steady isk income in Hisec. In lowsec or null there are hacking/relic sites, lowsec clone soldiers or faction warfare.
But holly grail of isk making is trade. But for that you need at least 10-15B (or more) for the start. And then, after you will discover your best trade strategy, you can earn 1 Plex a day without a problem or without too much "effort" and spend time in game. In fact, You will earn so much isk, that you will not be worrying about your game-time as you will be sitting on a pile of PLEX worth of several years of game-time.. CODE. Venture hunt contest in a nutshell |
LUMINOUS SPIRIT
The Dark Space Initiative Scary Wormhole People
567
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Posted - 2014.09.28 05:36:00 -
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Rumbaldi wrote:I have tried a number of in game options over the few years I've been in game in order to make ISK. I only have the 1 account with 3 toons and wanted to work towards paying for my sub with plex.
Firstly is that realistic with 1 account and 3 toons at the current plex prices?
Secondly (if realistic) what would be the best sorts of activities with a limited playtime (3 hours on weedays, a bit longer some weekends) to achieve that amount.
Of course in real terms I would need to earn above the cost of a plex in order to play for stuff in game. Ships, Modules, Skills etc
Any ideas/help would be appreciated.
wormholes. c6 - c6 hack sites in marauder or tengu.
250 mil - 1bn per hour solo, depending on luck finding sites.
requires knowledge on how to find sites efficiently, how to navigate wormhole chains, marauder 4 or tengu 5, hacking/scanning/salvaging to 4 at least, siggy or tripwire. |
Dave Stark
7001
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Posted - 2014.09.28 06:54:00 -
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Rumbaldi wrote:Schmata Bastanold wrote:Hmm, 5 years in game and you don't know how realistic is for you to earn 800mil per month? After such long time you should have at least some kind of idea about your income generation options and capabilities. I've jumped from thing to thing in that time, never really concentrating in one area, Ive made ISK in most areas but now I am specifically wanting to concentrate in one area in order to make enough to plex, but without getting the 800m (and more) as the sole thing that I do in game, therefore was just seeking opinions on other peoples best methods.
5 years and you can't make 27m isk per day? |
Ima Wreckyou
The Conference Elite CODE.
279
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Posted - 2014.09.28 08:26:00 -
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Rumbaldi wrote: Secondly (if realistic) what would be the best sorts of activities with a limited playtime (3 hours on weedays, a bit longer some weekends) to achieve that amount.
If you have limited play time, why would you waste it with grinding ISK for PLEX than simply pay that one sub and enjoy the game instead? The PLEX centered lifestyle where you grind ISK to pay for another month of mindlessly grinding ISK will change the way you play the game significantly and at least in my opinion kill the fun.
If you are just looking for a target to work towards there are many other things you can do in EVE. the Code ALWAYS wins |
Mike Adoulin
Adolescent Radioactive Pirate Hamsters
893
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Posted - 2014.09.28 08:50:00 -
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.......
Sigh.
Dude.
Just pay for the one year sub.
It's only about $10-11 per month that way.
And if you really, truly, can't afford the $120-30 bucks for a one-year sub, why are you even playing online computer games?
Everything in EVE is a trap. And if it isn't, it's your job to make it a trap...:) You want to know what immorality in EVE Online looks like? Look no further than Ripard "Jester" Teg.
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Rumbaldi
Reasonable People Of Sound Mind
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Posted - 2014.09.28 11:05:00 -
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Ima Wreckyou wrote:Rumbaldi wrote: Secondly (if realistic) what would be the best sorts of activities with a limited playtime (3 hours on weedays, a bit longer some weekends) to achieve that amount.
If you have limited play time, why would you waste it with grinding ISK for PLEX than simply pay that one sub and enjoy the game instead? The PLEX centered lifestyle where you grind ISK to pay for another month of mindlessly grinding ISK will change the way you play the game significantly and at least in my opinion kill the fun. If you are just looking for a target to work towards there are many other things you can do in EVE.
I have considered this, If it takes ALL my online time to grind a plex then ill just carry on paying sub rather than doing that, but if I can get to a plex doing say 40% of the time i am on then ill go for the plex. |
Rumbaldi
Reasonable People Of Sound Mind
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Posted - 2014.09.28 11:06:00 -
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Dave Stark wrote:Rumbaldi wrote:Schmata Bastanold wrote:Hmm, 5 years in game and you don't know how realistic is for you to earn 800mil per month? After such long time you should have at least some kind of idea about your income generation options and capabilities. I've jumped from thing to thing in that time, never really concentrating in one area, Ive made ISK in most areas but now I am specifically wanting to concentrate in one area in order to make enough to plex, but without getting the 800m (and more) as the sole thing that I do in game, therefore was just seeking opinions on other peoples best methods. 5 years and you can't make 27m isk per day?
Yes I can, But I want to ask peoples opinion on the quickest way to get that 27m profit a day. that is what forums are for, asking questions and seeking confirmation etc? |
Bagrat Skalski
Poseidaon
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Posted - 2014.09.28 11:34:00 -
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Rumbaldi wrote:Firstly is that realistic with 1 account and 3 toons at the current plex prices?
Yes, I do it. I do exploration in low sec and high sec in astero.
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Ima Wreckyou
The Conference Elite CODE.
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Posted - 2014.09.28 11:49:00 -
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Rumbaldi wrote:Ima Wreckyou wrote:Rumbaldi wrote: Secondly (if realistic) what would be the best sorts of activities with a limited playtime (3 hours on weedays, a bit longer some weekends) to achieve that amount.
If you have limited play time, why would you waste it with grinding ISK for PLEX than simply pay that one sub and enjoy the game instead? The PLEX centered lifestyle where you grind ISK to pay for another month of mindlessly grinding ISK will change the way you play the game significantly and at least in my opinion kill the fun. If you are just looking for a target to work towards there are many other things you can do in EVE. I have considered this, If it takes ALL my online time to grind a plex then ill just carry on paying sub rather than doing that, but if I can get to a plex doing say 40% of the time i am on then ill go for the plex. Even then, you basically sacrifice 40% of your free time to the grind and not to something that's actually fun. Ask yourself, how many minutes of that 40% do you have to work in RL to pay for the sub?
I know it is tempting to save a few bucks for a game, but is your free time worth it? EVE will turn into a job and you will have to grind that ISK even if you don't feel like playing or the game time will run out. the Code ALWAYS wins |
Jace Sarice
13399
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Posted - 2014.09.28 13:00:00 -
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For those criticizing him for wanting to plex, consider the fact that he has played this long and still doesn't make enough ISK with that much time in-game to plex. It's about time he learns to make ISK anyway, let plex be the motivator. |
Charax Bouclier
Silvershield Universal
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Posted - 2014.09.28 14:09:00 -
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Ima Wreckyou wrote:Rumbaldi wrote: Secondly (if realistic) what would be the best sorts of activities with a limited playtime (3 hours on weedays, a bit longer some weekends) to achieve that amount.
If you have limited play time, why would you waste it with grinding ISK for PLEX than simply pay that one sub and enjoy the game instead? The PLEX centered lifestyle where you grind ISK to pay for another month of mindlessly grinding ISK will change the way you play the game significantly and at least in my opinion kill the fun. If you are just looking for a target to work towards there are many other things you can do in EVE.
^ ^ ^
Yeah, I don't get people who would do mind-numbing ISK grinding in order to PLEX an account. Is your leisure time worth so little that you'd rather do that instead of working an extra hour/month to pay for your account?
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Charax Bouclier
Silvershield Universal
118
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Posted - 2014.09.28 14:29:00 -
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Quote:As for mining and manufacturing, the trick is to do both. Mine, set up a manufacturing job, then go back to mining while the job does it's thing. If you mine faster than the jobs get done, just set up another job. Eventually you will get to a point where the jobs will finish in time to receive the next stack of materials.
I'm a new player and even that doesn't make sense to me.
If you can make more ISK doing things other than mining, just buy the minerals off the market to feed your industry.
Unless you enjoy mining, that is. |
Rumbaldi
Reasonable People Of Sound Mind
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Posted - 2014.09.28 20:22:00 -
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Ima Wreckyou wrote:Rumbaldi wrote:Ima Wreckyou wrote:Rumbaldi wrote: Secondly (if realistic) what would be the best sorts of activities with a limited playtime (3 hours on weedays, a bit longer some weekends) to achieve that amount.
If you have limited play time, why would you waste it with grinding ISK for PLEX than simply pay that one sub and enjoy the game instead? The PLEX centered lifestyle where you grind ISK to pay for another month of mindlessly grinding ISK will change the way you play the game significantly and at least in my opinion kill the fun. If you are just looking for a target to work towards there are many other things you can do in EVE. I have considered this, If it takes ALL my online time to grind a plex then ill just carry on paying sub rather than doing that, but if I can get to a plex doing say 40% of the time i am on then ill go for the plex. Even then, you basically sacrifice 40% of your free time to the grind and not to something that's actually fun. Ask yourself, how many minutes of that 40% do you have to work in RL to pay for the sub? I know it is tempting to save a few bucks for a game, but is your free time worth it? EVE will turn into a job and you will have to grind that ISK even if you don't feel like playing or the game time will run out.
Ima, You make a very good point actually, I think it is still a goal you can work towards as long you you have fun doing in. My main for example is just trying to get into solo PVP I do find that quite fun (as long as you can find decent 1v1 fights), I also enjoy industry, so If i can make the money to plex whilst doing the thigns i do to have fun then that is a bonus. If whilst doing this I feel myself more concentrating of the plex money rather than the fun aspect, ill back off from it. |
Rumbaldi
Reasonable People Of Sound Mind
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Posted - 2014.09.28 20:24:00 -
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Charax Bouclier wrote:Quote:As for mining and manufacturing, the trick is to do both. Mine, set up a manufacturing job, then go back to mining while the job does it's thing. If you mine faster than the jobs get done, just set up another job. Eventually you will get to a point where the jobs will finish in time to receive the next stack of materials. I'm a new player and even that doesn't make sense to me. If you can make more ISK doing things other than mining, just buy the minerals off the market to feed your industry. Unless you enjoy mining, that is.
I've done minin gon my main and still very rarely do so, but generally I buy minerals etc off market for industry. That is possibly the way I will need to go in order to try an get the plex money, Its just knowing what to make that is the most profitable. |
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