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Mung Lore United Eve Mining Association	Posted - 2006.08.13 11:57:00 - [121] there is no one person who owns that much shares, UEMA owns 15k+ but there in EIB hands. So for a person to say something is kinda his way of trying to act cool. I think he owns a share, (one just one) and he thinks he runs the place. BTW the largest investor only owns just a little over 8% shares.
Treelox Amarr Storm Industries	Posted - 2006.08.13 13:22:00 - [122] Originally by: Mung Lore BTW the largest investor only owns just a little over 8% shares. I am wondering how you know this to be true? Is there a mechanic in game that informs you of this? Or at the time of the IPO one indivudual bought 8%. I ask this question because I know a little bit of behind closed doors trading has occured. For clarity's sake, no I am not calling you a liar, I am just wondering how you got this data, so I can place it in its proper context.
Ariu Devine	Posted - 2006.08.13 13:51:00 - [123] Originally by: Treelox Originally by: Mung Lore BTW the largest investor only owns just a little over 8% shares. I am wondering how you know this to be true? Is there a mechanic in game that informs you of this? Or at the time of the IPO one indivudual bought 8%. I ask this question because I know a little bit of behind closed doors trading has occured. For clarity's sake, no I am not calling you a liar, I am just wondering how you got this data, so I can place it in its proper context. Can't the CEO's see who has what shares?
Treelox Amarr Storm Industries	Posted - 2006.08.13 13:53:00 - [124] Originally by: Ariu Devine Can't the CEO's see who has what shares? I dont know, thats why I am asking.
Caroglac Amarr The Arrow Project The ARR0W Project	Posted - 2006.08.13 14:37:00 - [125] no CEO's cannot see who has shares you can petition to get the info from a gm... possibly
Naphtalia Millennium E.R.A	Posted - 2006.08.13 14:38:00 - [126] As a CEO you know: 1) who you xferred shares to (if you recorded this) 2) If someone in your corp has at least 1 share (if you try to kick them) becuase you will have to issue a vote 3) If someone in your corp has more then 50% of your shares (if you try to kick them) becuase you will not be able to start a vote. I have heard rumors that you can ask a GM for share distribution information.. but not sure if that is true. 4) In theory you could ask EGSEX to give you transaction history, I doubt they will give it and if they do, it will not be conclusive.
Mung Lore United Eve Mining Association	Posted - 2006.08.13 15:12:00 - [127] Hello, you all may know what is going on in the last few days, weeks, and months with UEMA. If you donÆt let me tell you my side of the story, IÆll keep it short. About 2 months ago I started UEMA, my goal was to produce tech 2, and make not only my self isk but my investors, see I own 3k UEMA shares so I get paid just like my investors. Well, at first I tried it and it was bad timing, there was a IPO lunch right at the same time, then it turned out to be a scam, then the GMÆs gave everyone there money and the bad guy got to keep the 25bil. Anyway, I still wanted to do my IPO I knew it needed a little bit more work, so I got a friend to help me with it, and we did, its was a new IPO after we got done with it, it was the same plain, just worded different. Ok, now that I had the IPO I need a way to get the trust out there, I saw EIB doing the IPO contracts, and so I jumped on and me and Cally worked out a contact. And so the IPO was started, I sold out 7billion with in hrs, so under a few people asking and saying I would to issue 5k more shares, I did so. From my understanding there is around 3k or so of them left. Well, I found a nice little BPO and it was little waiting game kind of before UEMA got it., but we got it, and started production. My search went on to find more T2 BPOÆs well it went slow. People arnt selling them because of the new patch in a month or so away. At this time Cally went on a trip somewhere, (and he still on that trip).. So I was thinking up a plain to start more than just t2 production because I just wont make my investors happy with the income from that one. So I let UEMA use some of my personal blueprints, witch has 3 cap ship BPO;s in there, the armor rep, remote armor rep and a cyno field gen. At this time production going well. Production of the blueprints that I owned that was just sitting around doing nothing I still started to look for more t2 BPOÆs. At this time, I spend about 5.1b of the investors isk, that means I should have 6.9billion isk left + 300mil for the last dividend payout. + 2billion that IÆm charging EIB for putting UEMA through this. So EIB owes UEMA around the 9.2billion mark. Well you know what been happing and IÆm faced with a lot of different options. I think the first option is to sit and wait, keep on the down low and wait it out, see what happens. I like this option and will do this. I will remove all non UEMA Blueprints as requested from some of the people who are letting me use them (the frig blueprints, crusers, the cap shield boster, the cap shield transfer, the gang mods, and ourpost BPO, (witch was going to make UEMA about 200mil or so a month selling copys (and I had a line of about 7 or so people wanting copys). I will issue dividends like norm, I will run UEMA with what I have and build up over time. Each month I will add 1billion isk fee + the UEMA dividends from the shares EIB holds. Yes I am adding a billion a month fee for each month UEMA doesnÆt hold the shares and the isk that is stored in EIB. I am sorry for everything I did to EIB, name calling , telling people to spam, and what not I do fell I move things along a little bit as they are starting to see a my point a little and are trying to do the right things. IÆm sorry for everyone, who I called names, or any one who may of got the bad end of the stick on this. I do fell I said some things worng.. and IÆm taking back what I said about EIB being a scam. EIB isnÆt scamming, its Cally who might. I and unfreezing all sales on UEMA shares, and everything should turn back to norm, I do want to ask all UEMA investors, to start e-mailing calling everyday asking for hem to please return UEMA shares and isk back to UEMA control. Remind hem about my fee I added on, due to all and that fee will be a dividend payout. Thanks, Mung.
Mung Lore United Eve Mining Association	Posted - 2006.08.13 15:35:00 - [128] ok, there are some people in this game who can't f-ing read, who thinks they are mr know it all's and I have to baby them every step of the way. short verson, I remove the following blueprints from UEMA control, becouse there on lone from close friends of mine. Capital Shield Booster I Capital Shield Transporter I The outpost BPO All the ammo BPO's ALL the frig BPO's all the cruisers BPO's All the Industrial ship BPO's All other BPO's will stay in UEMA control. That them BPO's was on lone from good friends, so I can make UEMA some isk until Callys return, they have asked for them blueprints back and I can't say no.
Caroglac Amarr The Arrow Project The ARR0W Project	Posted - 2006.08.13 15:45:00 - [129] can you post a list HERE of what bpo's and other assets remain under UEMA control?
Kal D'vogh	Posted - 2006.08.13 15:50:00 - [130] EIB doensn't owe you anything. The money is investors money not yours. This is one of the reasons why you have been limited because you treat it as your own and were making reckless purchases (why does a industrial corporation need to purchase combat modules, ammo, and skill books related to gunnery?) After your initial share sales there was no more than another 500 sold. The amount of UEMA isk we actually hold is nowhere near 8 billion im afraid.
Kuame Lore Supero Omnia	Posted - 2006.08.13 16:10:00 - [131] Kal = Cally, did you know I had 5k shares sold befor I did the width draw. prob not, I really didnt need EIB for this IPO but I went alone with for the trust. And the only reason only 500 what ever was sold befor I was sending everyone who asked me for shares to EIB channel and they didnt go. So Kal(cally), why you sign on save your face and EIB and make things right.
Kal D'vogh	Posted - 2006.08.13 17:11:00 - [132] You make no sense whatsoever. You should really read what you have written before posting. I know what you sold before hand because you were asked about discrepencies about the shares left and isk you had already raised being inacurate. All the transcripts and mails you sent to Cally are stored on a database along with all transaction logs that are something to do with UEMA. You have the cheek to tell me to post with my main? Why don't you Lirell Crow. Character sales or whatever don't matter. You are still the original scamming bastard and we shouldn't have had anything to do with you (yet another thing I was ignored about - how I hate being right all the time)
Naphtalia Millennium E.R.A	Posted - 2006.08.13 17:24:00 - [133] Kal, since you (claim to) have 50% of the shares of UEMA, are you going to vote on all the BPO unlock votes that Mung Lore is doing right now? If so, what will you vote?
Mung Lore United Eve Mining Association	Posted - 2006.08.13 17:39:00 - [134] Originally by: Kal D'vogh You make no sense whatsoever. You should really read what you have written before posting. I know what you sold before hand because you were asked about discrepencies about the shares left and isk you had already raised being inacurate. All the transcripts and mails you sent to Cally are stored on a database along with all transaction logs that are something to do with UEMA. You have the cheek to tell me to post with my main? Why don't you Lirell Crow. Character sales or whatever don't matter. You are still the original scamming bastard and we shouldn't have had anything to do with you (yet another thing I was ignored about - how I hate being right all the time) Kal its kinda funny, that you sound like you know what your talking about but you really dont. And about my main Lirell Crow isnt it sorry, I do own that char, and paid only 1.6bil for it about 4 months ago, but she isnt my main. Sorry m8. And Nap, doesnt matter who votes no, or yes, the BPO's will be unlocked, due to that bug.. Read my new post.
EMFi Manager EvE Mutual Fund Inc.	Posted - 2006.08.13 17:44:00 - [135] Originally by: Mung Lore And Nap, doesnt matter who votes no, or yes, the BPO's will be unlocked, due to that bug.. Read my new post. Oh ok, my understanding was that only "free form" votes are bugged... if BPO unlock votes are also bugged CCP has got a big issue! :) Alt of Naphtalia Visit my investment site
Pete Wilson	Posted - 2006.08.13 17:45:00 - [136] Originally by: Kuame Lore Kal = Cally After reading some of the older posts made by this Kal character I'd pretty much agree with your statement above. Kal D'vogh is Cally Some of the wording, spelling mistakes, punctuation, and sentence structure is remarkably similar. Even the hostility shown by both charaters in certain threads looks rather familiar But wait! Haven't we had this discussion before? Oh well, never mind, I suppose others can do their own digging and come to their own conclusions. Flame on
Kal D'vogh	Posted - 2006.08.13 17:54:00 - [137] I will be voting against the unlocking of any items since our bot within the corporation has no ability to moderate the liquidation of any unlocked assets. The UEMA has enough capital and consumables to maintain a steady growth and payout expected dividends without the need of the shares or the extra capital that was raised (even though it is minimal). This is nothing more than an act of desperation to gain sympathy. If Lirell Crow no longer wants to be involved with UEMA the EIB will consider purchasing control of the UEMA once Lirell Crow is no longer in a position to access its accounts. Should that occur the EIB will buy up all remaining shares and take over its operations.
EMFi Manager EvE Mutual Fund Inc.	Posted - 2006.08.13 17:59:00 - [138] Originally by: Kal D'vogh Should that occur the EIB will buy up all remaining shares and take over its operations. Including buying back the 3000 shares that Mung took from UEMA wallet to cover his troubles? Alt of Naphtalia Visit my investment site
Kal D'vogh	Posted - 2006.08.13 18:09:00 - [139] No, he didn't pay for them so he won't recieve any isk for them. Should Mung fail to return the shares (which im positive he has sold on by now) we will likely create more shares to make those shares worth no more than a few million isk. In such an event, we contact the original shareholders for verification to wether or not they have the shares and who they sold them onto should they no longer have them in possession. This should not be too much of an issue since the majority of UEMA shareholders are EIB clients so tracing them won't take too long. When we confirm who has the shares they will recieve an amount of extra shares on par with the ratio increase for shares created.
RogueWing Caldari Vanguard Frontiers	Posted - 2006.08.13 19:11:00 - [140] Sad thing is that Mung seems to be the only person to even be thinking about the investors. Everyone else is trying to cover their butts or make sure they "get theirs".
Salazar N'terre Caldari Intergalactic Combined Technologies	Posted - 2006.08.14 00:48:00 - [141] Originally by: RogueWing Sad thing is that Mung seems to be the only person to even be thinking about the investors. Everyone else is trying to cover their butts or make sure they "get theirs". If mung is thinking about hte investors, how about putting up a buy order on the exchange for the Ipo price and just buy back the shares. That way investors get back thier isk. Its the only sure way for the investors to get some compensation without mung worrying about those missing 15k shares getting dividends. "People who think they know everything are a great annoyance to those of us who do." "Laugh and EVE laughs with you. Cry and EVE laughs louder." -Anonymous
Ricdic Caldari Corporate Research And Production Pty Ltd	Posted - 2006.08.14 01:42:00 - [142] Ok guys, as of tomorrow the lockdown will be lifted. Anyone wanting withdrawals/deposits at that time is free to do so. Please be aware that if there is a lot of panic withdrawals our floats will likely need topping up so there may be short delays in withdrawals, but this shouldnt be an issue. Thanks guys for your patience. The lockdown wasn't necessary, however due to lack of contact, Xendraii and I (crazy bugger) felt it was the right thing to do to ensure the safety of everyone's investments. Kind Regards, Ricdic Insured Research and Production Services
Currin Trading	Posted - 2006.08.14 03:29:00 - [143] Originally by: Ricdic Ok guys, as of tomorrow the lockdown will be lifted. Anyone wanting withdrawals/deposits at that time is free to do so. If someone deposited isk into the EIB, where would it go? Cally is a known scammer. (Unless you believe the story about being in the bus accident.)
Treelox Amarr Storm Industries	Posted - 2006.08.14 03:43:00 - [144] Originally by: Currin Trading Cally is a known scammer. Currin u sexy wannabe, its alleged scammer until proven otherwise. Your rants nor mine, makes a scammer. Only evidence that is undeniable, or someone coming to the forums and bragging about how they scammed everyone, makes it a scam. Until then please use the proper wordage. Thank you for your time.
Mung Lore United Eve Mining Association	Posted - 2006.08.14 06:54:00 - [145] Originally by: Ricdic Ok guys, as of tomorrow the lockdown will be lifted. Anyone wanting withdrawals/deposits at that time is free to do so. Please be aware that if there is a lot of panic withdrawals our floats will likely need topping up so there may be short delays in withdrawals, but this shouldnt be an issue. Thanks guys for your patience. The lockdown wasn't necessary, however due to lack of contact, Xendraii and I (crazy bugger) felt it was the right thing to do to ensure the safety of everyone's investments. Kind Regards, Ricdic Hey ricdic I'll like to withdraw UEMA funds so I can pay my investors, thanks :)
Kuame Lore Supero Omnia	Posted - 2006.08.14 06:58:00 - [146] Originally by: Kal D'vogh No, he didn't pay for them so he won't recieve any isk for them. Should Mung fail to return the shares (which im positive he has sold on by now) we will likely create more shares to make those shares worth no more than a few million isk. In such an event, we contact the original shareholders for verification to wether or not they have the shares and who they sold them onto should they no longer have them in possession. This should not be too much of an issue since the majority of UEMA shareholders are EIB clients so tracing them won't take too long. When we confirm who has the shares they will recieve an amount of extra shares on par with the ratio increase for shares created. Kal you really need to do some reserch, trying to make your self sound like you know what your doing or talking about isnt working, BTW if somehow you do HOLD! the UEMA shares, there not yours you dont own them, there UEMA, your just holding on to them. Investors, you want to know who the real scammer here is, Kal, becouse if he is holding on the the 15k shares, he scamming everyone buy not giving them back. There now his to do as he wants with. and Kal about the 3k shares I own, you really need to read the IPO m8 thanks. aso read the contract.
Mung Lore United Eve Mining Association	Posted - 2006.08.14 07:00:00 - [147] Originally by: Kal D'vogh No, he didn't pay for them so he won't recieve any isk for them. Should Mung fail to return the shares (which im positive he has sold on by now) we will likely create more shares to make those shares worth no more than a few million isk. In such an event, we contact the original shareholders for verification to wether or not they have the shares and who they sold them onto should they no longer have them in possession. This should not be too much of an issue since the majority of UEMA shareholders are EIB clients so tracing them won't take too long. When we confirm who has the shares they will recieve an amount of extra shares on par with the ratio increase for shares created. BTW cal, you can't make new shares, you know why, you have to be in the corp to do so, you need dir access to make votes, and you know what, I will not give that, So when CALLY comes back he may convo me to get CEO rights to UEMA. So your plain isnt working, your not thinking.
spurious signal Caldari Brainiacs	Posted - 2006.08.14 09:01:00 - [148] Originally by: EMFi Manager Don't claim that you know these things after you called: +44(0)1642 850850 and asked them: 1) is it at all possible that a patient could get access to an internet station within a week of being in the hospital to get word out. 2) is there an official 'patient public internet room' Hi, just having a read through this thread when I came across this little "challenge" posted by Nap. So I phoned that number, which is indeed the hospital in question. I spoke to two people in the Patient Liaison department, and no, they do not have any form of internet access for patients. There is no communal access room, there is no bedside internet access, there is no wifi. Just thought I'd add a fact to this debate.
Naphtalia Millennium E.R.A	Posted - 2006.08.14 09:07:00 - [149] Edited by: Naphtalia on 14/08/2006 09:07:32 Originally by: spurious signal Just thought I'd add a fact to this debate. See, isn't that hard :) So that means he either bribed a nurse to use staff internet, or didn't use the internet in the hospital.
Sir Juri Caldari Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2006.08.14 09:51:00 - [150] its a scam cally is richest in EVE damn need to make a new sig...

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