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Kiwinoob
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Posted - 2014.10.08 05:49:00 -
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Seems to be a lot of negativity about making it harder to teleport everything people want from Jita out into null.
It's true I haven't spent a long time in 0.0 but I'm pretty sure while I was there I saw an asteroid. If only we could get CCP to provide some sort of device for extracting minerals from those asteroids (perhaps some kind of modified rocket launcher). If they also gave us a way to metamorphosize (yes - it is a real word) minerals into other things then someone could con an indy player out into null to build a giant bucket for all the tears.
And no. The time you spent reading this is mine now and you cant have it back.
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Kiwinoob
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Posted - 2014.10.08 06:17:00 -
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Ukiah Oregan wrote:Kiwinoob wrote: And no. The time you spent reading this is mine now and you cant have it back.
love this statement by t he way. problem is that the regions are not equal in the resource distribution i think their trying to make something happen but since they haven't discussed fixing the resource limitations in 0.0 i doubt much will change in this regrade in this release btw - alliances do/did produce in null - just not the mundane items - but with the changes with how and where u can build CAPS that'll change too
Well the regions shouldn't be completely equal. Bigger better alliances bet the juicy spots but if the distribution is total bonkers (I don't know how bad it really is) instead of raging at the wind people should be asking CCP to tie in the resource rebalance in with these changes.
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Kiwinoob
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Posted - 2014.10.08 06:39:00 -
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Nazri al Mahdi wrote:Kiwinoob wrote:Seems to be a lot of negativity about making it harder to teleport everything people want from Jita out into null.
It's true I haven't spent a long time in 0.0 but I'm pretty sure while I was there I saw an asteroid. If only we could get CCP to provide some sort of device for extracting minerals from those asteroids (perhaps some kind of modified rocket launcher). If they also gave us a way to metamorphosize (yes - it is a real word) minerals into other things then someone could con an indy player out into null to build a giant bucket for all the tears.
And no. The time you spent reading this is mine now and you cant have it back.
It's not just harder, it's 24x harder in the worst case. That's what we're pissed about - the cackling-insane level of the nerf, not that there is a nerf.
My point was more that instead of spending 24x more time hauling the same stuff. Haul less stuff, make the hauling for essentials and use local indy for more things.
I think you'll also find that as an indirect consequence fringe trade hubs will appear so that individual people don't have to go so far. People can pay a slightly higher price but will only have to go half as far. If they're a scrooge they can do the full trip but it'll take much longer.
Ultimately it makes very little difference - You could always make a run then do something else. If you don't like doing something else - I.e. you enjoy spending all day flying a JF around (which is fine) then you still get to fly a JF around all day you just don't move as much stuff. This will also not result in much of a financial hit to you as people will just end up charging 24x more for the service (give or take).
You get the same amount of ISK for the same amount of time in space. You enjoy flying a JF around which you still get to do. You just move less stuff.
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Kiwinoob
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Posted - 2014.10.08 06:42:00 -
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Arsine Mayhem wrote:Christopher Mabata wrote: I never said it was going to change the power blocks, i said it was a kick in the arse for null sec
And i think CCP did account for the damage this would cause, especially since they spoke to the entire CSM about it, Who we elected by the way. And they knew it would be a rough ride to fixing it and they would lose people on the way
They call it the blue doughnut for a reason. PL, CFC, N3 own what, 98% of it, they all have treaties with each other. A major part of the game is locked down into what, R E N T A L. Yea, that's a real game isn't it. If any of you have a problem with the changes, talk to N3, PL, and CFC. They are the ones that caused this. 90% of the complaints are about the changes interrupting their sheep activities, routines. To bad. And renters, yea, that's epic gaming there.
That's the problem with a good sandbox - it ends up too much like RL.
If CCP does actually figure out a simple, workable way to prevent 90% of land/wealth ending up with 10% of the people then every country in the world would be very keen to see how it was done :)
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Kiwinoob
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Posted - 2014.10.08 09:11:00 -
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imorax wrote:It was some guy in local. I'll find the log.
Ah well. If some guy said it - it must be true :)
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Kiwinoob
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Posted - 2014.10.09 04:48:00 -
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Frango Mint wrote:With the limited range of JF, living in null for industry will be nearly impossible. No way will I fly a multi billion isk ship through a gate just hoping that there won't be a gank party waiting for me, all because of this patch.
I'm no null sec expert but I thought jumping blind through a gate was a bad idea for anyone under any circumstances. This isn't just limited to a JF
Why not just get a mate or corp member to scout like everyone else if you absolutely have to use a gate? |
Kiwinoob
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Posted - 2014.10.09 05:05:00 -
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tl;dr - boring anecdote
I once had to move 500 retaining wall blocks about 20 meters down my drive. I had ten mates helping. We started by grabbing blocks and walking the whole way ourselves. Drop the block, go back for another.
Eventually people got tired and we could no longer walk the whole way. Instead we made a chain of people, each moving the blocks 2m before handing off to the next person.
Turned out that even though each person was moving far less distance - we were still moving the same number of blocks as before.
HINT: The 'friends' are like JF |
Kiwinoob
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Posted - 2014.10.09 11:03:00 -
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Misha Hartmann wrote:I really wish CCP would give us an update on what is going on. Any further speculation at this stage are irrelevant. Would be nice to know what is going on.......
Should probably remind people that CCP bailed on this thread at page 200. It's just forum PvP now
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Kiwinoob
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Posted - 2014.10.09 11:17:00 -
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Misha Hartmann wrote:Just another point of interest to me; Most people agree that the patch is 'required/not a bad idea' on some level or another. Furthermore most people want to eve plunge into chaos, which is in many ways is great, more fights more fun. But as any nullsec pilot will know, evacing ones stuff is an issue. And if true chaos does return to Eve, and sov changes hands constantly, it will become difficult to evac with current proposed jump restrictions. (dont get me wrong, I am mostly for the jump nerfsss) but evaccing already sucked before, imagine how much it will suck now.....
That's not a bad point. Not really sure where feedback should be aimed at the moment but when you get a chance make sure to push that point.
These changes are aimed at making it better for smaller corps and this plays right into that.
Nice to see some constructive thinking instead of rage quitting (even though the rage quitting is fun to laugh at)
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Kiwinoob
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Posted - 2014.10.09 11:25:00 -
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Polo Marco wrote:Kiwinoob wrote:Misha Hartmann wrote:I really wish CCP would give us an update on what is going on. Any further speculation at this stage are irrelevant. Would be nice to know what is going on....... Should probably remind people that CCP bailed on this thread at page 200. It's just forum PvP now not completely... folks that are on SISI are keepin us updated... It went up there with no range nerf and JF locked out....and they busted those posts yesterday when that idiot RQ'd and posted his account creds......:Pbet there was perma bans there .....
Sorry I was more referring to CCP Greyscale bugging out
CCP Greyscale wrote:OK, I've read every post up to page 200, and we're getting to a point in this thread where there's not a lot of new concerns or suggestions being brought up. There will be future threads (and future blogs) as we tune details, but for now I want to thank you for all of your constructive input, and wish you a good weekend :) |
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Kiwinoob
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Posted - 2014.10.09 14:36:00 -
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Veskrashen wrote:-1 to keeping JF range unnerfed.
Wait... what??
Double negatives hurt my head :(
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