Rigged cruisers? No. Buuut while we are talking about it...


[Moros, Moros fit]

Damage Control II
Capital Inefficient Armor Repair Unit
Federation Navy Magnetic Field Stabilizer
Federation Navy Magnetic Field Stabilizer
Federation Navy Magnetic Field Stabilizer
True Sansha Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane
True Sansha Energized Explosive Membrane

Federation Navy Stasis Webifier
Federation Navy Stasis Webifier
Domination Warp Disruptor
Federation Navy Tracking Computer, Tracking Speed Script
Federation Navy Tracking Computer, Tracking Speed Script

Limited Mega Ion Siege Blaster I, Dread Guristas Antimatter Charge XL
Limited Mega Ion Siege Blaster I, Dread Guristas Antimatter Charge XL
Limited Mega Ion Siege Blaster I, Dread Guristas Antimatter Charge XL
Siege Module II

Capital Hyperspatial Velocity Optimizer II
Capital Hybrid Metastasis Adjuster II
Capital Hybrid Metastasis Adjuster II

Not entirely sure if this will work but my dream of roaming dreads just took a big step forwards. Anyway, 1.7 mil EHP, 3au warp speed, a metric fuckton of firepower, half a minute to align (two nano take that down to 22 sec). Frankly if I can get this things align time down to around a battleships I may use it in baltec fleet in an ultimate show of stubbornness. I shall call it monkfish.

CCP Grayscale what have you done?

More I think about this change the more I like it. Going to really turn things on it's head and make Nullsec interesting :)

@CCP Greyscale

You said earlier that fatigue modifiers were already possible in the code but I think a ton of people would be happy with a sliding scale based on ship sizes with a few special case exceptions:

0.10 : JF, Rorqual, Blockade Runner
0.20 : Frigate, Noob Ships
0.25 : Blackops BS, Cloaky Recons, Cloak Sub t3 (maybe start all Cloaky ships higher (.4?) and have a ~7.5% reduction by skill level in Recon, t3 offensive, blops skill)
0.30 : Destroyers
0.40 : Cruiser, Non-Cloaky T3
0.50 : Battlecruiser
0.70 : Battleship, Freighter
0.85 : Carrier
0.90 : Dread
1.00 : Super
1.10 : Titan

This would make it easy to quickly get your frigates deployed, then cruisers, then then fights would escalate progressively. Also, a sliding scale could work to stratify Carriers, Dreads, Supers, Titans and promote natural fight escalations.

Good changes, glad you're making this so open for discussion. I hope you make it as far as my post!

-Bjor

Is this riskier than just jumping like a frog all around the place (at downtime ofc) and nobody can even take a peek?

If yes, then it's better. If not enough, just nerf the hell of it till it becomes.

Look on the bright side.. they FINNALY managed to make the nidhuggur the best carrier!!!

Feel free to ask red frog what they think of this change.

To everyone posting about the excessive length of time it will take to get from "A" to "B"....that's the point!

Back in the olden days we didn't have these fancy Jump Freighters and yet Moon Goo still made its way to Jita and supplies found their way back to our AO, magic? you ask, Neh say I, we flew ships through GATES laden with the spoils of our victories and returned with the riches of the new world...every week. And we did it as a group, no longer will the poor logistics officer suffer his weekly shopping trip buying the trinkets and tassles the ungrateful minions need, now everyone will participate in ensuring the safe passage of our ill gotten gains or next week there will be no fleet of Harpies to sting the enemies waiting at our door.

I think he said jumping 20 titans to a gate is a bad idea. If this is the only way you can figure out how to engage an enemy (20+ titans) then YOUR gameplan won't work.

You know, this just reminded me of a quote - "We're not trying to ruin the game, we're trying to ruin your game"

Let me see if I can update it a bit.. Hmmmm.....


"CCP isn't trying to break the game, they're trying to break your game"

How does that feel??? I can only imagine.

Feel free to ask red frog what they think of this change.

and having industrialists in null is a bad thing? Being able to move large quantities of ships, mods whatever from high to null is a part of the problem. Now null pvp'ers will have to stop treating miners like crap and actually accept that they need them to survive.

Why pilot specific (multiple pilots can move one dread across the universe pony express style), instead of hull specific (removes ability to move dread across universe)?

Why pilot specific (multiple pilots can move one dread across the universe pony express style), instead of hull specific (removes ability to move dread across universe)?

Because hulls can be repackaged.

Is this fun?? Heck yeah (in the words of my golden retriever) This is the best day ever (wag wag wag). Now did they ask "Is this fun for Ironfist?" it's pretty obvious by your post that this change is not custom crafted for your personal view of eve enjoyment. So, let's be fair and let my 'best day ever' cancel out your 'this sux' and call it balanced.

I'm thinking they are banking on people NOT being willing to spend all that time making no progress. I think they are also banking on the average eve player being average and adapting. I think they are also banking on that adaptation NOT ending with a big blue donut.

If you see this as you being personally kicked in the junk for the greater good of the game, then please sit down, relax and the pain will subside. In a few days or weeks you'll be able to get up and walk around in the new normal. If you don't like it, feel free to adapt. It probably won't be as a part of team Supercap Win.

Why pilot specific (multiple pilots can move one dread across the universe pony express style), instead of hull specific (removes ability to move dread across universe)?

Because hulls can be repackaged.

Because hulls can be repackaged.

unless say there was a mechanic that wont let you re-package unless your jump drive is cooled off...

e: beaten like a rented mule


Because of the way Eve works internally, you can't put the restriction on the ship. A ship can be repackaged, which eliminates all uniquely identifying characteristics of the ship (including a jump timer of any kind.) People would just run unrigged ships up jump corridors all day, repackaging at every hop, then rig for the fight.

For those entities still wishing to base in Null, I forsee their capital production shifting to lowsec areas just due to the time of travel requirements for capitals getting delivered to staging points.

How do you nerf 30 remote repping carriers convoying (with a couple of them in triage) without totally eliminating remote repping?