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Bamboozlement
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
39
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Posted - 2014.10.01 17:39:00 -
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Noelle Civire wrote:Obsidian Hawk wrote:It looks like everyone rage quitting are CFC, N3 and PL.
In other news, smaller alliances, and other groups that only dreamed of 0.0 w/o being subject to the blue dohnut overlords are now getting ready to move out there. There's already small groups out there and now they're trapped and can't realistically supply themselves. It hurts them more than large alliances. The small groups rely on jump ranges, black ops, ninja supply trains to get their **** around. All nerf'd in this patch. GG - 4 accounts
Can I have your stuff, please respond I have a Ph.D |
290xanaots
Wildly Inappropriate Goonswarm Federation
8
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Posted - 2014.10.01 17:39:00 -
[152] - Quote
This is a wonderful change. This means that all my cyno alts now become jump alts to move my carrier for my main. With 6 alts, this change doesn't apply to you.
Stop being so **** poor and buy more alts. Just like they want you to. |
Icemandk
Paladin Order Fidelas Constans
16
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Posted - 2014.10.01 17:40:00 -
[153] - Quote
incarna **** right there.
Well GG CCP, throw in the towel. thanks for some good years.
Fly safe anyone there gonna stay sub. i'm gonna unsub |
Domanique Altares
Rifterlings Point Blank Alliance
3128
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Posted - 2014.10.01 17:40:00 -
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Giovanni Titus wrote:So, basically, you want people to spend LESS time playing the game - and instead waiting to travel to fights?
Say I want to kill something with my blops, I
1) burn an alt to the target system. 2) Jump to the cyno, and kill the target and/or die. 3) Jump out and continue to play.
After these changes. I'm now going to have to wait another few minutes before actually being able to continue playing?
4) Make sure that what your dropping is worth the downtime. Two BCs on gate? Probably not.
5) Find something else to do in the meantime. LIke not fly a BLOPS for a few minutes.
I mean, I know that it probably makes you violently ill and want to snuggle up to your mommy to put your clone in a different ship, but they do exist. "i advice you to go spit on the back of someone else because you are fall on the wrong horse." - Meio Rayliegh |
Coldheart Jones
Ravens' Nest Overload Everything
11
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Posted - 2014.10.01 17:40:00 -
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Welp in before Jita riots v2, another few thousand players unsubbing and ccp having to Fire off another portion of their Staff so they can just continue to run this game into the ground :)
also im selling My capitals anyone intrested? |
Andrea Keuvo
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
274
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Posted - 2014.10.01 17:40:00 -
[156] - Quote
I know this is a crazy idea but before you completely crippled capital ships don't you think it might have been prudent to come up with a similar fix for blobbing 2000 megathrons into a system and release that fix at the same time as you castrate force projection with capitals?
Sometimes I wonder why I continue to waste my time with this game. |
Lee Janssen
Zero Fun Allowed
18
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Posted - 2014.10.01 17:40:00 -
[157] - Quote
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Raliwski Ahashion
Viziam Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2014.10.01 17:40:00 -
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Congrats for having the balls to do this CCP.
I really hope this gives people a chance in nullsec and mixes things up without having a massive 'cap fleet' boot of the big boys.
Really excited about the future of nullsec! |
Edwin Wyatt
Lone Star Warriors Yulai Federation
1
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Posted - 2014.10.01 17:40:00 -
[159] - Quote
ABSOLUTLEY LOVE IT.
Masterful, but can we also add fatigue to cyno generation as well?
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Lelira Cirim
EVE University Ivy League
163
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Posted - 2014.10.01 17:40:00 -
[160] - Quote
/checks EVEmon ~90 days to being a cap pilot. Or not. Do not actively tank my patience. || -áEvents Team -á|| -áUniWiki Team |
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Paul Maken
The Rising Stars The Initiative.
52
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Posted - 2014.10.01 17:40:00 -
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So, I go out on a small capital op to repair a starbase.
We leave from the capital staging point, and jump 5LY to a system with a POS that we need to rep up. That leaves me a 6 minutes timer and 6 minutes of fatigue. After two cycles of triage, 10 minutes have elapsed and we can jump home. The fatigue has dropped at 0.1 per minute to 5 minutes, but on jumping back it is increased to 30 minutes.
This timer will take 30*10 = 300 minutes or 5 hours to go away. During that time (i.e. the rest of my play time for today) I cannot go on any other fleets because the FC might use a jump bridge and I'll be left behind.
That's going to have a chilling effect on my ability to go on more than one fleet in a day, even if those fleets don't go very far and use only one jump each direction. |
Skia Aumer
Atlas Research Group
92
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Posted - 2014.10.01 17:41:00 -
[162] - Quote
Stain will be a desert. Is it intentional?
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Mr Coloredshirt
Baddie Count Inc. GoonSwarm
1
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Posted - 2014.10.01 17:41:00 -
[163] - Quote
can you not just add new lightyearlierly-bigger regions or something instead of ******* up all of existing lowsec and nullsec. or maybe fix wormholes. or sov. or literally anything but this. |
Torgeir Hekard
I MYSELF AND ME
62
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Posted - 2014.10.01 17:41:00 -
[164] - Quote
I opened dotlan jump planner. I took a naglfar with JDC0 which makes it 5LY. I planned a route from empire space to 4GQ. I closed dotlan jump planner.
Please say that whoever though out this bright plan has never ever even read about EVE online on wikipedia. I refuse to believe any sane person who ever seen EVE could suggest this.
This change will benefit (or hurt less) big rich groups that can afford capital caches, secondary capital pilot characters, long cyno chains and control of midpoints in SOV space. And hurt small groups living in faraway regions. |
Menero Orti
Jedran Space Services Manifest Destiny...
35
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Posted - 2014.10.01 17:41:00 -
[165] - Quote
Great ..just when i got 2 more days on JDC 5 this happens... |
Prince Kobol
2220
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Posted - 2014.10.01 17:41:00 -
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Raliwski Ahashion wrote:Congrats for having the balls to do this CCP.
I really hope this gives people a chance in nullsec and mixes things up without having a massive 'cap fleet' boot of the big boys.
Really excited about the future of nullsec!
As Opposed to having fleets of 1000 subs caps but now with no way to counter them.. good luck with that |
WillusKillus
Hooded Underworld Guys Northern Coalition.
7
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Posted - 2014.10.01 17:41:00 -
[167] - Quote
No. |
colera deldios
212
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Posted - 2014.10.01 17:42:00 -
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There we go one for each of the accounts: http://i.snag.gy/7wUYD.jpg http://i.snag.gy/7wUYD.jpg http://i.snag.gy/7wUYD.jpg http://i.snag.gy/7wUYD.jpg http://i.snag.gy/7wUYD.jpg http://i.snag.gy/7wUYD.jpg http://i.snag.gy/7wUYD.jpg http://i.snag.gy/7wUYD.jpg http://i.snag.gy/7wUYD.jpg http://i.snag.gy/7wUYD.jpg http://i.snag.gy/7wUYD.jpg http://i.snag.gy/7wUYD.jpg http://i.snag.gy/7wUYD.jpg |
Orontes Ovasi
Nex Exercitus Northern Coalition.
7
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Posted - 2014.10.01 17:42:00 -
[169] - Quote
Was CCP's intent to kill nullsec? Because kudos if it was. Shittiest batch of changes in quite awhile. |
Bytestorm
Hoplite Brigade Iron Oxide.
14
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Posted - 2014.10.01 17:42:00 -
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Literally Space Moses wrote:Have you considered the rather long distances between regions? I haven't actually checked the numbers, but I can imagine some regions being nigh impossible to assault, just because no capital ships can actually jump far enough to reach them, or can only reach one or two systems.
As they can use gates then, they still can reach every system. But it maybe reasonable/necessary now to use the regional gates for travel between the regions to reduce fatigue and fuel-costs. |
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Lady Gravewalker
FinFleet Northern Coalition.
2
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Posted - 2014.10.01 17:42:00 -
[171] - Quote
Finally a reason to quit the game.
Elite is going to be the new king of space games as ccp loses its crown, |
Kazumii Shimizu
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
6
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Posted - 2014.10.01 17:42:00 -
[172] - Quote
Love the idea of roaming gangs with integral cap ship support being a thing.
Apart from that, I'm struggling to find positives. While essentially making fleets of cap ships use gates to travel any distance quickly sounds like it's adding content & promoting gudfites, all it will do is allow small gangs of dictors to ensure cap ships fleets (with their miniscule speed to escape bubbles) move so slowly to destination that there's no point. |
Alekseyev Karrde
Noir. Suddenly Spaceships.
1648
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Posted - 2014.10.01 17:42:00 -
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Quote:Every time you use any jump drive, jump bridge or jump portal (hereafter all treated as "a jump"; note that this does NOT include stargate travel!), you will accumulate jump fatigue. If your fatigue is below 1 before a jump, your fatigue will be 1 + (light years travelled) after the jump. For subsequent jumps, the fatigue is multiplied after each jump by 1 + (light years travelled). This stays on the character as mentioned earlier, and decays at a rate of 0.1 per minute.
After a jump is complete but before your fatigue is increased, you gain a jump cooldown timer. The length of this timer is a number of minutes equal to your jump fatigue (before being increased by that jump!), and you are unable to make another jump of any kind until this timer expires. Note importantly that, because fatigue decays at a slower rate than a cooldown timer, you will retain fatigue for a length of time after your cooldown timer expires. (See Appendix A for examples.) I like jump cooldowns. But this is much more complicated than it needs to be. Like, Matrix Reloaded levels.
Simple is better, think of the new players. "Alekseyev Karrde: mercenary of my heart." -Arydanika, Voices from the Void
Hero of the CSM Noir./Noir. Academy Recruiting: www.noirmercs.com |
Domanique Altares
Rifterlings Point Blank Alliance
3128
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Posted - 2014.10.01 17:42:00 -
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Ransu Asanari wrote:Quote:You will only be able to move your medical clone to the station you are currently docked at. This prevents obvious movement workarounds with suicide-cloning Please reconsider this, or at least walk it back a little bit. This change really hurts the accessibility of Nullsec corporations for new/inexperienced players.
Actually, it'll open up vast swathes of null for new/inexperienced players to explore, once the current sov holders get done rage quitting over these changes.*
*Actual number of current sov holders that rage quite over this is vastly exaggerated by bluster and unsubcribe threats; most of these people are not actually going anywhere. "i advice you to go spit on the back of someone else because you are fall on the wrong horse." - Meio Rayliegh |
Edwin Wyatt
Lone Star Warriors Yulai Federation
1
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Posted - 2014.10.01 17:42:00 -
[175] - Quote
Makalu Zarya wrote:o7 eve and thanks for all the fish, it's been fun.
See ya :)
Oh, can we have all your stuff?
LOL
Adapt or die, that is the EVE way! |
Kismeteer
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
661
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Posted - 2014.10.01 17:42:00 -
[176] - Quote
New Eve Online tagline: Come play our game once a week. (And wait out your timer otherwise) |
Illectroculus Defined
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
171
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Posted - 2014.10.01 17:43:00 -
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With their bonuses to Jump fatigue it can only be a matter of time till we see hot drop fleets switching to Battle Rorquals. This is a good thing. |
VauXurne
Destructive Influence Northern Coalition.
0
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Posted - 2014.10.01 17:43:00 -
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Tazarak theDeceiver wrote: It's like they gathered all our wives in a room together to find a way to kill the game.
Must be. I'm done spending my hard earned money on CCP. You just killed the game and alienated your customers who spend the most money . Try business school perhaps? Thanks for the ride. It's been fun. |
Nioda
Antwerpse Kerels Fidelas Constans
1
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Posted - 2014.10.01 17:43:00 -
[179] - Quote
i guarantee you that a lot of people will stop playing eve.
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Noelle Civire
Aliastra Gallente Federation
2
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Posted - 2014.10.01 17:43:00 -
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CCP. There's a distinct difference between listening to your player base and being a slave to them peace-mealing their ******* Mittani.com blog posts into a patch.
You take the fact that groups and people are upset and YOU form your own decisions on how the game should go. You don't rely on interested parties doing your job for you.
Have some accountability.
How about just take jump fatigue? How about make a cyno have a mass limit? How about limit the distance of an "apex force" by further increasing fuel consumption and making jump fuel optimizer mods available as lowslots for all capitals? Make parties have to dump their fuel mods to refit & deal with jump fatigue & deal with multiple fleets/cynos due to mass limits. Coupled together it creates a logistic nightmare for large entities to move without hurting smaller entities.
How about you freaking measure twice and cut once? For once CCP.. measure twice and put some thought into this. I don't mean 4-6 weeks. I mean 2-3 months before you change the game. Don't experiment. Don't blame it on the blogs or the player base you used as a base line. Don't wait to see how the "meta shifts." Do the real work before you release something.
Ignoring that capitals through gates is just idiotic and will just look foolish. Might as well call them Battleships+.
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