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Chetner
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Posted - 2006.08.09 23:30:00 -
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I was just a victim, and I don't really care that much it's part of the game, but I'm wondering is there any interesting pirating in this game where you get threatened and forced to turn over cargo or cash? Or is it all just greifing pvp, camping gates for instance isnt much of a chore, you see the person jumping in before they see you because of load times... And no I don't use insta's its boring and without flavor.
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Chronus26
Gallente STK Scientific Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.08.09 23:35:00 -
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It depends.
Some (like me) do it for the explosion. I dont do it to 'greif' people, in the past ive felt bad for pirating people.
others Pirate for profit, they ransom or whatever. What the fun without the explosion?
It really depends on the pirate.
As for instas. There is no shame in using instas. They are pretty much an essential part of travel within the game, although implemented by players using a rather 'ad-hoc' system. -----
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Dark Eulogy
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Posted - 2006.08.09 23:36:00 -
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i prefer running belts, its more fun, some people like killmails so they will kill u either way but when ur poor u gotta ransom or hope for nice mods
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zombu2
Poonz-Mobile Fighting Pandas
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Posted - 2006.08.09 23:40:00 -
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yeah i started pirating for the pretty explosions but the more i ran out of isk i thought about collecting the loot and ransom ppl the mix of all of that is not to bad hehe
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Benglada
Central Defiance
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Posted - 2006.08.09 23:44:00 -
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you usually make less money out of ransoming but the sec hit is less severe ---------------------------
Originally by: Wrangler Unfrtinately you dnot get to vote..
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inSpirAcy
Caldari The Solopwnmobiles
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Posted - 2006.08.10 02:05:00 -
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I pirate in belts but I wouldn't call it interesting. I always scan from a safespot first so I can pick and choose the fights I think I'd stand a decent chance in. That helps to keep it profitable.
But just occasionally I spice it up by really tipping the odds. Last night I thought I'd try my hand against a Typhoon in my Vexor (yay!), so I warped into the belt and started AB'ing towards him. He warped out before I got into disruptor range.
Ubervexor!
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Ozzie Asrail
Hybrid Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.08.10 02:11:00 -
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Originally by: Chetner I was just a victim, and I don't really care that much it's part of the game, but I'm wondering is there any interesting pirating in this game where you get threatened and forced to turn over cargo or cash? Or is it all just greifing pvp, camping gates for instance isnt much of a chore, you see the person jumping in before they see you because of load times... And no I don't use insta's its boring and without flavor.
uh, unless you have a really slow PC you will load up in a cloak for about 60 seconds after jumping in. More than enough time to get your bearings and arrange a ransom if tehre is someone camping the gate.
Unless of course your autopiloting through lowsec... -----
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Chetner
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Posted - 2006.08.10 02:20:00 -
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I guess what i mean is more interaction between pirates and peacefuls, but apprently it seems like CCP made just blowing people up worth more cash then actual negotiation? You say its more money to blow people up but a good miner can make money faster then you can blowing people up. If that is the case maybe CCP needs to be looking at that imbalance. Just seems odd I guess?
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inSpirAcy
Caldari The Solopwnmobiles
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Posted - 2006.08.10 02:34:00 -
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Ransoming is dangerous and, in my experience, often unfruitful. The longer you sit in a belt the more chance there is of the victim's friends or other opportunists jumping you. I only ransom when I'm attacking a ship that's worth a lot more than the mods it's likely to be carrying; which is mostly the larger mining barges.
I tried to ransom a Cyclone yesterday for 15M since we were miles away from anywhere and it'd cost him at least 25M to replace it. He just ignored me so I popped him.
I think ransoming would become more popular if CCP sorted out the contract system to reflect a pirate's history of honouring them. The current implementation suffers, I believe, from not showing a public history of private contracts. Without that there's always the chance of the pirate popping you anyway, which deters some from paying...
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Chetner
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Posted - 2006.08.10 02:56:00 -
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Ahh yah I didn't think of that, like I said what i was wondering about was more interaction, ive died quite a bit in this game since beta honestly and I've never seen people give warnings, ransoming or whatnot, so i guess its still a dead issue... Oh well.
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Verone
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Posted - 2006.08.10 06:21:00 -
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Originally by: Chetner I was just a victim, and I don't really care that much it's part of the game, but I'm wondering is there any interesting pirating in this game where you get threatened and forced to turn over cargo or cash? Or is it all just greifing pvp, camping gates for instance isnt much of a chore, you see the person jumping in before they see you because of load times... And no I don't use insta's its boring and without flavor.
Run into a member of Veto, and you're mre than likely to be pirated old school style.
VETO RECRUITMENT |
Tellenta
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Posted - 2006.08.10 07:07:00 -
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i got wtfpwned in a shuttle on my jumpclone.. sent a mail thanking for the poddong.. saved me 13 jumps. some people shoot and dont care
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Pichemanu
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Posted - 2006.08.10 08:56:00 -
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Originally by: Chetner I was just a victim, and I don't really care that much it's part of the game, but I'm wondering is there any interesting pirating in this game where you get threatened and forced to turn over cargo or cash? Or is it all just greifing pvp, camping gates for instance isnt much of a chore, you see the person jumping in before they see you because of load times... And no I don't use insta's its boring and without flavor.
Yes ********* buhuhu... ********* |
Sakura Nihil
Tharsis Security
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Posted - 2006.08.10 10:43:00 -
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It depends - I try and ransom when there is something worth ransoming, i.e. T2 frigate, HAC, recon, battleship, battlecruiser, covops...
However, if you're in something not worth a lot, especially a hauler that might have nice goodies inside, expect to go pop.
OMG, WCS Nerf! |
Soumk
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Posted - 2006.08.10 13:22:00 -
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There's plenty of interesting PvP in Eve.
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valerydarcy
The Priory
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Posted - 2006.08.10 13:32:00 -
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i do it because i enjoy killing. simple as. but i make a point of only fighting either bigger ships or if im outnumbered and outgunned. makes it more challenging and much more satisfying- thats not to say i wont kill anything and everything but that gest boring fast. ***
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Jex Jast
Perfect Order
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Posted - 2006.08.11 05:01:00 -
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Edited by: Jex Jast on 11/08/2006 05:02:20 What you experienced was really more PvC (not the pipe, Player vs Civilian which yes I just thought up and may be dumb, it's friggin 1 AM I have no brain right now).
PvP where you actually fight a decent fight can be exhilarating.
Edit: Oh and as far as the pirating thing goes, if they don't do it for profit, they're not a pirate, they're just a player killer. They might not be griefing but they can't claim to be pirate without at least justifying your death by looting you. Ransomers of course are even better ___________________________________________
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Father Weebles
Lost Dawn Technologies
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Posted - 2006.08.11 05:25:00 -
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Sometimes its a challenge. Like last night i warped into a belt with 2 bc's and 3 frigs. I broke 1 of the bc's tank in my thorax just as my corpmates jumped in. Unfortunately, the bc had at least 2 stabs and he warped as i got him into structure. Left the battle with 82% hull and no kills.
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xeom
Obsidian Sins
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Posted - 2006.08.11 06:19:00 -
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Depends what im fly really.If its something like a AF and the fight is looking close i'd much rather not risk my ship and just get the kill.On the other hand if im in something in my rupture i ussualy ransom.Also depends on my moods sometimes but ussualy easly replaced ship=ransom.
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Aodha Khan
Minmatar Blood Inquisition
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Posted - 2006.08.11 08:06:00 -
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Originally by: Benglada you usually make less money out of ransoming but the sec hit is less severe
A pirate who worries about sec hits is going to be a very poor pirate.
So in war, the way is to avoid what is strong and to strike at what is weak.
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Nanka
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Posted - 2006.08.11 10:21:00 -
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Edited by: Nanka on 11/08/2006 10:23:06 @ Verone:
greetigs. you giving private lessons ? :) teach me.
@ topic starter:
I am new to pirating, but not new to EVE. What I found is, that as a Pirate, you need much more common sense, and a feeling for your surroundings then as any other "profession".
As a miner in low sec, I just watch for Pirates. But as a Pirate, I need to know not just my victim, but also to know if he might have his buddies close, and how miserable his buddies could make my life if I do him bad. :) So in general, I need to observe, who "lives" in the area, and how strong is his Corp, or is he just a looner without friends, etc...
The interesting aspect of PvP is actually picking your targets (besides of ship setup and such). The imprtant step of Pirating for me actually happens all before the attack. The attack itself, is then just to carry out my plan. If the planning was good, all is fine. - remember "A-Team" quote : ....I love it, if a plan works out.
Of course, its not at all interesitng for my victim. So to put it short : fr the victim, its not at all interesting for the attacker, sure it is interesting, why else would he do it ?
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murder one
Gallente Death of Virtue
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Posted - 2006.08.11 11:36:00 -
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I come across two types of targets: worth it to ransom, and not. Ransom targets: Most battleships, HACs, AFs, most other T2 ships etc. Not worth it: Any other T1 ship. I also ransom pods of players who I think are likely to have implants. Everything else I kill without exception.
Why do I kill, even if asked for mercy/ransom by some player with a worthless ship and pod? Because it's not worth my time to let him live, and it does (me) more good to kill him and pod him than to settle for 300k ISK in ransom money.
It's a *good* thing when noobs worry about risk when they enter a low sec system.
Because I said so...
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Icarium Intaki
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Posted - 2006.08.11 12:06:00 -
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Personally, I always try to ransom, unless I'm fighting more than one ship, or it's a really close fight. Apart from it being more reliable than the "module lottory", ransoming someone makes character interaction and fun Roleplay much more likely (Yes, I'm a roleplayer, sue me). Blow someone outta the sky, and all you're likely to get is some smacktalk in local.
Besides, the thrill of PvP is mainly in the planning and the fight, not the pretty explosions.
Of course, if they ignore you and keep firing, then by all means, blow em to hell!
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Sakura Nihil
Tharsis Security
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Posted - 2006.08.11 13:25:00 -
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Originally by: Icarium Intaki Besides, the thrill of PvP is mainly in the planning and the fight, not the pretty explosions.
Never discount the pleasure a pretty blue *bang* can give you, especially when their ship outclasses you or you know they had some really expensive stuff on there .
OMG, WCS Nerf! |
Adoro
Caldari Reunited
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Posted - 2006.08.11 13:40:00 -
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Originally by: Chetner Edited by: Chetner on 10/08/2006 02:24:40 I guess what i mean is more interaction between pirates and peacefuls, but apprently it seems like CCP made just blowing people up worth more cash then actual negotiation? You say its more money to blow people up but a good miner can make money faster then you can blowing people up. If that isn't the case maybe CCP needs to be looking at that imbalance. Just seems odd I guess?
Pirate makes more money then a miner with loot ;) Millions on those ships sometimes what often goes into the pirates wallet.
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valerydarcy
The Priory
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Posted - 2006.08.11 15:15:00 -
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each time i kill someone i sit stroking my peen then put on a cloak and have ritual sex with animals. oh i get excited alright. ***
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Icarium Intaki
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Posted - 2006.08.11 15:46:00 -
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Originally by: valerydarcy each time i kill someone i sit stroking my peen then put on a cloak and have ritual sex with animals. oh i get excited alright.
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Jex Jast
Perfect Order
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Posted - 2006.08.11 16:37:00 -
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Originally by: Icarium Intaki
Originally by: valerydarcy each time i kill someone i sit stroking my peen then put on a cloak and have ritual sex with animals. oh i get excited alright.
QFT
Uh...
/me forgets what he was going to say
Explosions...are...nice...uh...
Loot ftw. ___________________________________________
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Zissou
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Posted - 2006.08.11 21:41:00 -
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Originally by: valerydarcy each time i kill someone i sit stroking my peen then put on a cloak and have ritual sex with animals. oh i get excited alright.
You are talking about just virtually killing someone in EVE right? Otherwise you're off topic!
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Jenny Spitfire
Caldari LoneStar Industries Veritas Immortalis
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Posted - 2006.08.11 22:33:00 -
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Edited by: Jenny Spitfire on 11/08/2006 22:33:53
It really depends on my mood swings. If I can tank my target, I will try to kill it slowly by activating an offensive slot. It is so fun to watch your target slowly goes into shields, penetrating into armour and finally ripping into hull. The best fun is when they victim cries in local for help and cant do anything about it but helplessly watching the ship slowly blown into teeney weeney bits.
Very funny. ---------------- Cruelty is God's way of showing kindness.
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