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Banana1x
Banana Co.
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Posted - 2014.10.02 23:31:00 -
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Poena Loveless wrote:How would this not get abused as a skill on demand system? And how do you determine the SP you gain unless we completely removed training implants and remaps and just all have a flat SP/minute rate? I see alts with millions of 'unused' SP just waiting for the 'next big thing' rather than training for a goal and making a good judgment and investment in what is the best use of your skilling time.
It would work exactly as it does now, just without the queue. I don't know why you're confused about calculating the SP, it's still the same. As for alts, they need to pay a sub still so who really cares? If someone wants to sub for 12 months, not play, then log in and blow all their SP- I couldn't care less. It affects me in no way. |
Daichi Yamato
Xero Security and Technologies
1914
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Posted - 2014.10.03 00:11:00 -
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why do you think SP would be the same banana?
You realise different skills have separate primary and secondary attributes right?
EVE FAQ "7.2 CAN I AVOID PVP COMPLETELY?No; there are no systems or locations in New Eden where PvP may be completely avoided""So it will be up to a pilot to remain vigilant wherever they may be flying and be ready for anything at any time" |
Zan Shiro
Alternative Enterprises
499
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Posted - 2014.10.03 00:34:00 -
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Banana1x wrote:Poena Loveless wrote:How would this not get abused as a skill on demand system? And how do you determine the SP you gain unless we completely removed training implants and remaps and just all have a flat SP/minute rate? I see alts with millions of 'unused' SP just waiting for the 'next big thing' rather than training for a goal and making a good judgment and investment in what is the best use of your skilling time. It would work exactly as it does now, just without the queue. I don't know why you're confused about calculating the SP, it's still the same. As for alts, they need to pay a sub still so who really cares? If someone wants to sub for 12 months, not play, then log in and blow all their SP- I couldn't care less. It affects me in no way.
If a carebear....no it doesn't affect you. CCP balances on heavily on PVP however.
And PVP is heavily influenced by FOTM.
And FOTM is controlled somewhat by respec training for it.
If ccp makes ship A uber in a patch...only the people who have it get that right away. rest have to train for it. This gives ccp some buffer to see if a ship is truly op or not. Or if lucky, players develop a counter to not have to rebalance it 1 week later. As its my firm belief if you spam 1000 of something, anything can be op.
Drake my example for this. I think it is lacking...even before nerfs as I have many many mnay hours in them since starting in apocrypha. It was not until drake train got horrendous it got the rebalancing. 1000 people made an average ship op somehow. This effect however took many months as people not caldari trained had to learn it.
Long story short, FOTM can "break" the pvp aspect of the game. FOTM rate of breaking however is controlled by time to respec.
With banked sp....massive FOTM shifts happens overnight. Now ccp is doing knee jerk rebalance passes way too often worst case. Especially with players like me. I am in my last "to do" train tweaking RR skills on my carrier. All my cap RR to 4 for passable, tactical logistics to 5 for t2 triage.....I literally train to train after that. I can bank sp like its cool to see what the new bestest thing ever is and could have in in less than 5 minutes.
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Tedd Haggard
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.10.03 00:38:00 -
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Daichi Yamato wrote:why do you think SP would be the same banana?
You realise different skills have separate primary and secondary attributes right?
My concern is about wasted SP due to nothing training. I believe if you're paying a subscription, the points should accumulate. If attributes adjust that amount based on the skill in training, then let the SP accumulate at an unmodified rate - at least that is something.
I'd like to keep my subscriptions (I dual box) going during extended periods where I cannot play. Currently, I'll just unsubscribe then probably won't come back for an even longer time. I'd rather CCP have my money and I feel like I haven't wasted it - then everyone is happy - except for bitter vets; they're never happy. |
Iain Cariaba
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Posted - 2014.10.03 06:40:00 -
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What it boils down to is this: if you expend even a little effort, with a 24 hour skill queue you can always be training something. All it takes is some basic planning. If you want to talk about rl issues suddenly interfering with EvE, try getting arrested and spending 30 days in jail. Once I got everything else in order, I called my roommate and talked him through what he needed to do in order to set me a long skill train.
There are always options, changing the skill queue system is not one of them.
Disclaimer: My opinion does not necessarily reflect that of my corp or alliance. My opinion is my own, and if you don't like, that is your problem. |
Tedd Haggard
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
4
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Posted - 2014.10.03 07:28:00 -
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Iain Cariaba wrote:What it boils down to is this: if you expend even a little effort, with a 24 hour skill queue you can always be training something. All it takes is some basic planning. If you want to talk about rl issues suddenly interfering with EvE, try getting arrested and spending 30 days in jail. Once I got everything else in order, I called my roommate and talked him through what he needed to do in order to set me a long skill train.
There are always options, changing the skill queue system is not one of them.
Wait a sec... Are you saying you got arrested and used your phone call to instruct someone else to update your skill queue? I admire your priorities. |
Corraidhin Farsaidh
Farsaidh's Freeborn
677
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Posted - 2014.10.03 10:39:00 -
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I'm just imagining his call now within earshot of the other incarcerated...trying to explain what needs injecting into 'BigThrobba' to keep him happy for the next month... |
FR8 Actor
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
2
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Posted - 2014.10.03 21:44:00 -
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I say that the only real and serious objection to this would be is that it robs the player of objective scale of "skill difficulty" factor or something. The idea that its, a choice between keeping your sub and having to log on every so often by having to check evemon or not, is true. I pretty much made an alt once, and forgot about it, to later promise myself to not do that again as it is a waste. I totally support this.
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Steppa Musana
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
206
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Posted - 2014.10.10 23:59:00 -
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http://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/coming-to-eve-online-in-the-phoebe-release-on-november-4th/
I'm always right, just deal with it gentlemen. 
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Tedd Haggard
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
6
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Posted - 2014.10.11 02:55:00 -
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Woot!
Somebody up there must be listening to me. |
Rendiff
Funk Soul Brothers
Northern Associates.
90
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Posted - 2014.10.11 03:53:00 -
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No. Gradual SP accumulation is worse than a standard leveling system. -10000000 |
Jack Carrigan
Order of the Shadow
The Revenant Order
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Posted - 2014.10.11 06:11:00 -
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The unlimited skill queue renders this thread invalid. The OP already rendered it pointless. With that said, good day all.
"War is not measured in terms of who wins or loses, who is right or wrong.-á It is measured in terms of who survives"-á |
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