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Kinzi Mitchi
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.10.15 19:11:00 -
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Does anyone know for sure the nature of static wormholes that are scanned out, but don't have warp initiated to them (raw)?
1. do these act like they did pre-Hyperion (i.e. the k162 backdoor will never show) 2. will this, in theory, keep the static from ever becoming end of life? |
Bronya Boga
Isogen 5
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Posted - 2014.10.15 19:27:00 -
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If you dont jump it, it doesnt open the k162.
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Obil Que
Star Explorers Reckoning Star Alliance
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Posted - 2014.10.15 20:56:00 -
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Kinzi Mitchi wrote:Does anyone know for sure the nature of static wormholes that are scanned out, but don't have warp initiated to them (raw)?
1. do these act like they did pre-Hyperion (i.e. the k162 backdoor will never show) 2. will this, in theory, keep the static from ever becoming end of life?
Per Hyperion notes, all wormholes, static or not behave as follows
1. Scanning a wormhole does not instantiate the K162 side 2. Warping to a wormhole does not immediately instantiate the K162 side (Hyperion change) 3. Jumping through a wormhole immediately instantiates the K162 (Hyperion change) 4. A wormhole that is warped to but not jumped through starts the timer that, once the WH is 15 hours from expiration has a random chance every minute for the K162 to instantiate on its own. (Hyperion change)
http://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/into-the-known-unknowns/ It's all in the devblog |
MooMooDachshundCow
Incertae Sedis
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Posted - 2014.10.15 21:46:00 -
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Obil Que wrote:Kinzi Mitchi wrote:Does anyone know for sure the nature of static wormholes that are scanned out, but don't have warp initiated to them (raw)?
1. do these act like they did pre-Hyperion (i.e. the k162 backdoor will never show) 2. will this, in theory, keep the static from ever becoming end of life? Per Hyperion notes, all wormholes, static or not behave as follows 1. Scanning a wormhole does not instantiate the K162 side 2. Warping to a wormhole does not immediately instantiate the K162 side (Hyperion change) 3. Jumping through a wormhole immediately instantiates the K162 (Hyperion change) 4. A wormhole that is warped to but not jumped through starts the timer that, once the WH is 15 hours from expiration has a random chance every minute for the K162 to instantiate on its own. (Hyperion change) http://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/into-the-known-unknowns/It's all in the devblog
There's also a 5-minute timer before the sig shows up on the K162 side after it is spawned. During that period the K162 is completely unscannable on the incoming side and the sig does not show on the discovery scanner.
+5 for use of the word "instantiate". Yeah, well, it's just like my-áopinion, man. |
Hatshepsut IV
Cascading Failure Un.Bound
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Posted - 2014.10.15 21:49:00 -
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MooMooDachshundCow wrote:Obil Que wrote:Kinzi Mitchi wrote:Does anyone know for sure the nature of static wormholes that are scanned out, but don't have warp initiated to them (raw)?
1. do these act like they did pre-Hyperion (i.e. the k162 backdoor will never show) 2. will this, in theory, keep the static from ever becoming end of life? Per Hyperion notes, all wormholes, static or not behave as follows 1. Scanning a wormhole does not instantiate the K162 side 2. Warping to a wormhole does not immediately instantiate the K162 side (Hyperion change) 3. Jumping through a wormhole immediately instantiates the K162 (Hyperion change) 4. A wormhole that is warped to but not jumped through starts the timer that, once the WH is 15 hours from expiration has a random chance every minute for the K162 to instantiate on its own. (Hyperion change) http://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/into-the-known-unknowns/It's all in the devblog There's also a 5-minute timer before the sig shows up on the K162 side after it is spawned. During that period the K162 is completely unscannable on the incoming side and the sig does not show on the discovery scanner. +5 for use of the word "instantiate".
Put the pipe down moomoo.
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Alundil
Isogen 5
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Posted - 2014.10.15 22:58:00 -
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MooMooDachshundCow wrote:There's also a 5-minute timer before the sig shows up on the K162 side after it is spawned. During that period the K162 is completely unscannable on the incoming side and the sig does not show on the discovery scanner. Not true
Obil Que wrote:"instantiate" Good word
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Ilaister
Task Force Proteus Protean Concept
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Posted - 2014.10.15 23:32:00 -
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Alundil wrote:Obil Que wrote:"instantiate" Good word
I'd have gone with manifests myself. |
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Sudden Buggery
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Posted - 2014.10.15 23:49:00 -
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When you crush a hole, it insubstantiates. J's before K's. Sudden Buggery is recruiting w-nerds and w-noobs. Mail your resume in today! http://www.localectomy.blogspot.com.au
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Winthorp
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Posted - 2014.10.16 00:47:00 -
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I don't really like raw eggs myself, i much prefer poached eggs and forum search functions. |
Hatshepsut IV
Cascading Failure Un.Bound
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Posted - 2014.10.16 03:20:00 -
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Winthorp wrote:I don't really like raw eggs myself, i much prefer poached eggs and forum search functions.
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Kinzi Mitchi
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.10.16 07:34:00 -
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Obil Que wrote:Per Hyperion notes, all wormholes, static or not behave as follows 1. Scanning a wormhole does not instantiate the K162 side 2. Warping to a wormhole does not immediately instantiate the K162 side (Hyperion change) 3. Jumping through a wormhole immediately instantiates the K162 (Hyperion change) 4. A wormhole that is warped to but not jumped through starts the timer that, once the WH is 15 hours from expiration has a random chance every minute for the K162 to instantiate on its own. (Hyperion change) http://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/into-the-known-unknowns/It's all in the devblog
Yes, I read this closely today and hence my question as it does not cover case 5.
5. a static wh is scanned down, a raw book mark is added, but warp is not instantiated.
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Terrorfrodo
Renegade Hobbits for Mordor
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Posted - 2014.10.16 08:13:00 -
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It will sit there forever, just like it has always been. Few days ago I scanned my statics, then had to leave the game, came back about 24 hours later, warped to the holes and jumped through. They were fresh and they later expired after their usual lifetime. . |
Kinzi Mitchi
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.10.16 08:49:00 -
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thanks all |
Obil Que
Star Explorers Reckoning Star Alliance
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Posted - 2014.10.16 12:32:00 -
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Kinzi Mitchi wrote:Obil Que wrote:Per Hyperion notes, all wormholes, static or not behave as follows 1. Scanning a wormhole does not instantiate the K162 side 2. Warping to a wormhole does not immediately instantiate the K162 side (Hyperion change) 3. Jumping through a wormhole immediately instantiates the K162 (Hyperion change) 4. A wormhole that is warped to but not jumped through starts the timer that, once the WH is 15 hours from expiration has a random chance every minute for the K162 to instantiate on its own. (Hyperion change) http://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/into-the-known-unknowns/It's all in the devblog Yes, I read this closely today and hence my question as it does not cover case 5. 5. a static wh is scanned down, a raw book mark is added, but warp is not instantiated.
Technically that is case 1 without proceeding to the other cases which means yes, it will never
instantiate
at least until someone visits your hole via another random wormhole connection and opens it for you |
Rei Moon
Murderous Inc
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Posted - 2014.10.16 15:53:00 -
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Visit my hole. Don't. Murderous Inc. wants woobs (does that work as "wormhole newbies"?) |
MooMooDachshundCow
Incertae Sedis
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Posted - 2014.10.16 17:13:00 -
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Hatshepsut IV wrote:MooMooDachshundCow wrote:Obil Que wrote:Kinzi Mitchi wrote:Does anyone know for sure the nature of static wormholes that are scanned out, but don't have warp initiated to them (raw)?
1. do these act like they did pre-Hyperion (i.e. the k162 backdoor will never show) 2. will this, in theory, keep the static from ever becoming end of life? Per Hyperion notes, all wormholes, static or not behave as follows 1. Scanning a wormhole does not instantiate the K162 side 2. Warping to a wormhole does not immediately instantiate the K162 side (Hyperion change) 3. Jumping through a wormhole immediately instantiates the K162 (Hyperion change) 4. A wormhole that is warped to but not jumped through starts the timer that, once the WH is 15 hours from expiration has a random chance every minute for the K162 to instantiate on its own. (Hyperion change) http://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/into-the-known-unknowns/It's all in the devblog There's also a 5-minute timer before the sig shows up on the K162 side after it is spawned. During that period the K162 is completely unscannable on the incoming side and the sig does not show on the discovery scanner. +5 for use of the word "instantiate". Put the pipe down moomoo.
I will NOT.
I swear I watched it happen a few days ago.
vOv guess I was just high. Yeah, well, it's just like my-áopinion, man. |
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