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newsreader
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Posted - 2006.08.19 09:23:00 -
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thats if its true of course, after so many blatent lies how can anyone know whether or not this is just another excuse and attempt at deciet?
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Kal D'vogh
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Posted - 2006.08.19 09:35:00 -
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Man I just got up after a night on the town, so I hope i'm still half cut and aint read that right. What a perfect thing to read first thing in the morning after a hangover.
That guy who posted it knows him in RL. I know this through ventrillo convo's over the years with them both and personally have PVPed with that guy on many occassions so why would he post something like that if it was a lie.
Hospital lie? yes, Prison lie? maybe but death... that's different. It's not something you lie about and I would never have put Cally or the poster down as someone who would make a sick joke such as that.
I suggest anyone who has suspicions on this keep them to themselves as a sign of respect. If you joke or question this I will personally make your gaming life hell for the next year.
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newsreader
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Posted - 2006.08.19 09:44:00 -
[153]
 Originally by: Kal D'vogh
If you joke or question this I will personally make your gaming life hell for the next year.
Promise
and as far as using death as a scam it wouldnt be the first time it's been tried on these forums i believe 
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Ricdics
Corporate Research And Production Pty Ltd
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Posted - 2006.08.19 09:54:00 -
[154]
Originally by: newsreader
Originally by: Kal D'vogh
If you joke or question this I will personally make your gaming life hell for the next year.
Promise
and as far as using death as a scam it wouldnt be the first time it's been tried on these forums i believe
If you are referring to GPSx, there is no proof to determine otherwise. This situation is different however, as an established eve player has confirmed it. Obviously we may never know, but as Kal has said, in the event that this has happened, we don't want to be making shrewd comments about it.
You can use eve search on that link to see the unedited posts, and you will see why that thread was closed. Let's not send this thread down the same path.
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Dagam
Dagam Corp
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Posted - 2006.08.19 10:33:00 -
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Quite saddening if someone lied about a RL death to scam some virtual cash.
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Ariu Devine
EVE Empowerment League Logistical Operations
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Posted - 2006.08.19 10:38:00 -
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newsreader and Dagam, please edit your posts and keep it civil. T will just come along and lock this thread if you keep posts like that and others follow through.
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Dagam
Dagam Corp
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Posted - 2006.08.19 11:02:00 -
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That's a big IF. I don't mean to imply one way or another, but we should consider the possibility that this is the way the player behind Cally is bringing closure to his project. Personally I have no stake in this, I'm a empire mission running main that's been reading these EIB threads with interest. However what caught my attention was this:
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If you joke or question this I will personally make your gaming life hell for the next year.
Notice how defensive he is. This isn't the normal reaction for someone who just lost his long-time friend, and I've lost people I've known irl and known people who have lost people. He seems more concerned with what we think than about respecting Cally's tragedy.
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Rotella
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Posted - 2006.08.19 11:03:00 -
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Hello,
I normally don't post and prefare being a passive observer of the forums and its various debates, but I did post in one of these threads not so long ago when I read about CallyÆs unfortunate accident involving a bus crash. The reason I initially posted was because I was in a position to verify that CallyÆs claims of being in that incident were false as I not only live in the northeast of England (Darlington) not far from where the accident occurred, but I also work in the local hospital there. A simple telephone call to my colleagues who work in various hospital departments at both North Tees (where I work) and James Cook University Hospital confirmed that the extent of injuries and the subsequent stay in hospital that Cally claimed was in fact a total lie as none of those invloved where seriously hurt (however a 13 year old child stayed in hospital overnight).
So after reading this latest turn of events this morning it wasnÆt a huge surprise to me when I contacted work colleagues within the Coroners Inquests and Registrar and relayed the information given to us by DarkÆ Lord - only to find out that no such ôKieron Jonesö person (or indeed no such incident as described) has been registered within either hospital, Coroners Inquests, or the Registrar what so ever. In fact the last incident that bears even the slightest resemblance to it was in late March of this year and it involved a woman in her early fifties. If need be I will contact the Registrar at Aklam cemetary on monday to confirm what I already know.
If the exact incident relayed to us and the name provided to us is totally incorrect then I openly apologise. But from the information provided (names, and details) itÆs a complete falsehood.
If this is not the case, I find it wholly sickening that a fellow eve player has used such an incident to his or her own gains. Cally lied about being in a well-publicised bus accident, Cally probably lied about being sent to prison, and I know for a 100% fact that Cally has lied about finally dieing off in the way in which as been described to us. Furthermore, I suggest that this DarkÆ Lord person is most likely in cahoots with Cally, or is indeed just another character/account of the person behind Cally (and most likely Kal DÆvough from what IÆve readà. and I quote ôI suggest anyone who has suspicions on this keep them to themselves as a sign of respect. If you joke or question this I will personally make your gaming life hell for the next year.ö).
I no longer want to be associated with this episode û not just because my real life work has become involved in it but because there are just some boundaries you donÆt cross, and using out of game excuses and lies like this just makes me feel ashamed to have such people playing the same game that I love.
This entire episode played out on the forums was indeed initially great fun to follow, with great debates and great humour. Unfortunately those perpetrating the false hoods have escalated their lies and excuses far beyond what any decent human being should do.
ItÆs disgusting.
The rest of you can make your own judgments. I have told you what I know from the privileged position I am in and I am walking away from this whole affair and will make no further comments on it.
Make your own judgments.
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Kal D'vogh
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Posted - 2006.08.19 11:29:00 -
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My reaction was out of being annoyed. And i'm still annoyed. Cally 'was' a friend and if this is all a rouse then yes it's sick but until we have definitive proof either way then this topic should not be debated upon out of respect.
When you feel a friend is being attacked in anyway your immediate reation is to defend that friend, no matter the truth behind the situation.
I personally did not know Cally's real life name. I did not know him as Cally either, I knew him as a different character - Cally is not his main. The fact that his main I know, or any of his other characters has not logged in for over 2 months suggests something is wrong.
I have done some investigating myself and a little under a month ago there was someone who died of an overdose, around the same age as Cally supposedly and it happened in the town of Marton which I believe is in Middlesbrough - Cally's home town. The problem is the name of the victim is not the same one EMFi has given us. So who knows.
May I have your personal contact details via [email protected] to speak with you? I would certainly like to know what exactly is going on and how you are in a position to obtain information that I would expect is not easy to come by unless you are infact a family member.
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Rotella
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Posted - 2006.08.19 11:47:00 -
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Originally by: Kal D'vogh
My reaction was out of being annoyed. And i'm still annoyed. Cally 'was' a friend and if this is all a rouse then yes it's sick but until we have definitive proof either way then this topic should not be debated upon out of respect.
When you feel a friend is being attacked in anyway your immediate reation is to defend that friend, no matter the truth behind the situation.
I personally did not know Cally's real life name. I did not know him as Cally either, I knew him as a different character - Cally is not his main. The fact that his main I know, or any of his other characters has not logged in for over 2 months suggests something is wrong.
I have done some investigating myself and a little under a month ago there was someone who died of an overdose, around the same age as Cally supposedly and it happened in the town of Marton which I believe is in Middlesbrough - Cally's home town. The problem is the name of the victim is not the same one EMFi has given us. So who knows.
May I have your personal contact details via [email protected] to speak with you? I would certainly like to know what exactly is going on and how you are in a position to obtain information that I would expect is not easy to come by unless you are infact a family member.
I have nothing to say to you Kal D'vough either in the public eye or privately via email because I now believe that you are the one perpetrating all of these lies and pulling all the strings. From what I've witnessed and read, you are Cally and are obviously alive and kicking.
I will indeed investigate your claims about the other tragic incident you claim above if I haven't already called in one too many favours already at work. The information I'm privy to comes with the job - a job that I would now like to keep separate from my leisure time. The only reason I've relayed what I know to the eve player-base is because a line has be crossed.
You should be ashamed.
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Lt Widowmaker
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Posted - 2006.08.19 11:57:00 -
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Edited by: Lt Widowmaker on 19/08/2006 12:01:58
IÆm sorry but I could not help my self in just posting, first IÆm requesting locking of this and will send an e-mail to a mod with the same request. Its one thing to joke around and to made fun, but IÆm sorry you just donÆt make fun of people dieing. From the info I have, I do know this much. EIB didnÆt start off as a scam but as much that went on Cally just wanted to play the game so this was his way out.
Dark' Lord / Kal D'vogh / Cally, Ether or maybe your all the same person IÆm almost really to bet that DarkÆ Lord is Kal D'vogh ômainö, and ôCallyö got banned for account sharing about 3 weeks ago when ôhis accounts were hackedö.
Its just makes me sick that someone will make up a story like just to get out of running a IPO or to scam. Well itÆs went one step to much. I mean its not a joke anymore. You should never bring real life in to a game, and really you should never bring something like death in to something like this. But to Dark' Lord / Kal D'vogh/ Cally your really low right now, your lower then the gum on the bottom of my boots.
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Jager Slade
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Posted - 2006.08.19 13:04:00 -
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Rotella, either as a 7 day old player you have a unique interest in the forums, or you are only willing to make accusations with an Alt. If you believe what you are saying is true, don't hide.
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Dark Shikari
Caldari
Imperium Technologies
Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2006.08.19 14:03:00 -
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Originally by: Lt Widowmaker
But to Dark' Lord / Kal D'vogh/ Cally your really low right now, your lower then the gum on the bottom of my boots.
I would think you're even lower, considering you would make such an accusation on simple hearsay.
Or do you have evidence that I haven't seen yet? I doubt it.
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Originally by: DB Preacher
The only time BoB's backs are to the wall is when Backdoor Bandit is in local.
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Dark Shikari
Caldari
Imperium Technologies
Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2006.08.19 14:05:00 -
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By the way Kal, both me and EMFI have been waiting for Junior Accountant permissions to audit UEMA for over a day. Could you step in there and toss the permissions to us? Thanks 
--[23] Member--
Originally by: DB Preacher
The only time BoB's backs are to the wall is when Backdoor Bandit is in local.
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Kal D'vogh
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Posted - 2006.08.19 15:39:00 -
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Sorry DS, my life on the weekend doesn't involve EVE, so I didn't pay attention (think I was drunk when I accepted you) I will make sure you have roles by tonight.
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EMFi Manager
EvE Mutual Fund Inc.
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Posted - 2006.08.19 16:09:00 -
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Originally by: EMFI Auditor
I have applied to UEMA today, I will publish my findings on Saturday evening. Any information I might need from Kal or Mung that hasn't been submitted by Saturday before DT, or if I haven't received adequate roles to do an audit will be deemed "non existent"
I haven't received adequate roles to be able to perform an audit. I have left the corporation awaiting a new auditing job.
Maybe DS will have the patience it takes to get ennough information to audit UEMA. For the duration of the audit of UEMA I have been able to find out "nothing".
This statement can be considered my "Audit Report"
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Dark Shikari
Caldari
Imperium Technologies
Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2006.08.19 16:19:00 -
[167]
Originally by: Kal D'vogh
Sorry DS, my life on the weekend doesn't involve EVE, so I didn't pay attention (think I was drunk when I accepted you) I will make sure you have roles by tonight.
Thx 
--[23] Member--
Originally by: DB Preacher
The only time BoB's backs are to the wall is when Backdoor Bandit is in local.
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Ariu Devine
EVE Empowerment League Logistical Operations
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Posted - 2006.08.19 16:31:00 -
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Edited by: Ariu Devine on 19/08/2006 16:31:37
Originally by: EMFi Manager
I haven't received adequate roles to be able to perform an audit. I have left the corporation awaiting a new auditing job.
Maybe DS will have the patience it takes to get ennough information to audit UEMA. For the duration of the audit of UEMA I have been able to find out "nothing".
This statement can be considered my "Audit Report"
EMFi,
Please eve-mail me and let me know what I'm to do in regards to what we spoke of. I wasn't able to catch you on yesterday. I will be back on later this afternoon my time.
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Kitty O'Shay
Tharsis Security
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Posted - 2006.08.19 18:24:00 -
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EMFI, I take it you've washed your hands of this sideshow?
If so, are you adjusting you portfolio to reflect this?
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EMFi Manager
EvE Mutual Fund Inc.
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Posted - 2006.08.19 18:33:00 -
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Originally by: Kitty O'Shay
EMFI, I take it you've washed your hands of this sideshow?
If so, are you adjusting you portfolio to reflect this?
As to washing my hands, I have just followed the procedure I announced when I was requested to audit UEMA.
My portfolio is already updated (and monthly statement published on my blog) but thx for reminding me I still need to upload my images to my blog..
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Shassandra
Gallente
Garoun Investment Bank
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Posted - 2006.08.19 21:44:00 -
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Edited by: Shassandra on 19/08/2006 21:45:38
It is with great sadness that I write here now. I'm afraid Michael Moore, the player of Kal D'vogh has died while his jailbus got wedged under a bridge.
Is this a joke? No. I am just saying, show me obituaries and I'll believe any claim. Until then Cally's death, or the death of Kieron Jones, is speculation and heresay nomatter who says it, and that is the way it'll continue on any Inet forum where it cannot be proven by a majority of people. I am also saying with the amount of lies that have so far been told from all sides, it is impossible to believe this story, whether made up or fact, until it is proven completely.
Also, that the UEMA audit is on hold for Dark Shikari, and the fact that EMFI has already left the Audit for now, shows that Kal is not holding his side of the bargain as has been detailed by his own post. Until he starts doing that, the UEMA shares will be "neutral" and they can be kept like that for a long while. Also, who knows? He might even already be using UEMA for own profit, keeping it in the state of "unknown".
And last: I am sorry if my first paragraph, as well as my second, has stepped on anyone's feet. I am just stating one truth of the Internet. I could have chosen any other name, could have made up my own. Michael Moore does exist, but I doubt he plays Eve.
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Kal D'vogh
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Posted - 2006.08.19 23:44:00 -
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Originally by: Shassandra
Edited by: Shassandra on 19/08/2006 22:00:28
Edited by: Shassandra on 19/08/2006 21:45:38
It is with great sadness that I write here now. I'm afraid Michael Moore, the player of Kal D'vogh has died while his jailbus got wedged under a bridge.
Is this a joke? No. I am just saying, show me obituaries and I'll believe any claim. Until then Cally's death, or the death of Kieron Jones, is speculation and heresay nomatter who says it, and that is the way it'll continue on any Inet forum where it cannot be proven by a majority of people. I am also saying with the amount of lies that have so far been told from all sides, it is impossible to believe this story, whether made up or fact, until it is proven completely. Checking Google for Kieron Jones, Obituary, Middlesbrough or Marton, it shows up blank. This is not conclusive that it has not happened though, but I can get plenty of obituaries from other cities. Size of city can have affect on this.
Also, that the UEMA audit is on hold for Dark Shikari, and the fact that EMFI has already left the Audit for now, shows that Kal is not holding his side of the bargain as has been detailed by his own post. Until he starts doing that, the UEMA shares will be "neutral" and they can be kept like that for a long while. Also, who knows? He might even already be using UEMA for own profit, keeping it in the state of "unknown".
And last: I am sorry if my first paragraph, as well as my second, has stepped on anyone's feet. I am just stating one truth of the Internet. I could have chosen any other name, could have made up my own. Michael Moore does exist, but I doubt he plays Eve.
For your information, Dark Shikari is in the UEMA now and should be able to get on with his audit as role have been set, but I wouldnt consider anything less from another *cough* bank.
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Phantom Neurosis
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Posted - 2006.08.19 23:47:00 -
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Well firstly if the reports are true regarding the recent death of Cally then my sincere condolences.
I hope CCP have suspended his account so that nobody can maliciously use it until this is all resolved.
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Lt Widowmaker
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Posted - 2006.08.20 00:12:00 -
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Edited by: Lt Widowmaker on 20/08/2006 00:13:27
umm
http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=381324
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Lala Ru
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Posted - 2006.08.20 00:45:00 -
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Well, Kal D'vogh. Since it has been confirmed that EIB is a scam, can you give us all a reason why anyone should trust YOU?
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Kerushi
Caldari
JuBa Corp
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Posted - 2006.08.20 01:00:00 -
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and now every one starts wondering 
every one yelling and screaming about alt post, yet, every one trust alts with their money...
u know, maybe this was a good thing, wake all u lazy bastards up for not giving some alt ur money and stick to respected ppl
as they say, easy come, easy go...
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Kitty O'Shay
Tharsis Security
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Posted - 2006.08.20 01:14:00 -
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Just remember everyone, you need to work hard and make back that lost isk, Dentara's going to need you to trust his alt again in about six months!
This couldn've have worked out better with a Hollywood script. Starting the bank with only 100m isk, and getting everyone to believe that the bank was backed by Cally's massive personal wealth.
Social engineering 4tw!
(Oh, my only involvement in this is that I have some EMFI shares. Which is why I spent most of my time holding Naph's feet to the fire, just protecting my investment.)
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Mung Lore
Supero Omnia
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Posted - 2006.08.20 01:23:00 -
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for everyone who didnt get to see that video
Eve-Wallsreet has it up, the site is massy there are to many ad's so just look past them, most will be removed.
http://www.eve-wallstreet.com/
Link is in yello but the video is up
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Ricdics
Corporate Research And Production Pty Ltd
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Posted - 2006.08.20 01:57:00 -
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I can confirm that Cally was the one in that video. I have spoken to him a fair bit on Venty, and the voice is definetly the same
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Lt Widowmaker
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Posted - 2006.08.20 02:39:00 -
[180]
Originally by: Dark Shikari
Originally by: Lt Widowmaker
But to Dark' Lord / Kal D'vogh/ Cally your really low right now, your lower then the gum on the bottom of my boots.
I would think you're even lower, considering you would make such an accusation on simple hearsay.
Or do you have evidence that I haven't seen yet? I doubt it.
still think I'm low?
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