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Catjusha	Posted - 2006.08.17 18:36:00 - [1] Edited by: Catjusha on 17/08/2006 18:36:46 Hi Could one of EIB's tellers contact me by mail and indicate a time for a chat? My high interest savings account was supposed to be paid back on the 16th, which did not happen despite my explicit orders. And trying to find an EIB teller in the bank channel has been quite fruitless today. Thanks Cat ------------------------------------ In its current form, Eve is a paradise for Isk sellers, exploiters and griefers.
Currin Trading	Posted - 2006.08.17 19:01:00 - [2] Have you checked the prisons/hospitals in your area?
Kitty O'Shay Tharsis Security	Posted - 2006.08.17 19:13:00 - [3] Originally by: Currin Trading Have you checked the prisons/hospitals in your area? Milk + nose + CT = new keyboard Classic. Best laugh of the morning. -- 1 in 10 chance to win a battleship!
Catjusha	Posted - 2006.08.17 19:14:00 - [4] Do me the favor and die in a plane crash, Currin. Your comments are not wanted here. ------------------------------------ In its current form, Eve is a paradise for Isk sellers, exploiters and griefers.
Kal D'vogh	Posted - 2006.08.17 19:26:00 - [5] Xendraii is usually online from around 2200 hours gametime. Crazy Bugger is online usually just after downtime. The tellers have been instructed to credit savings accounts as the money comes through. Since Cally dissapeared and was holding the majority of liquid isk on her personal wallet, I have had to begin the process of liquidating assets. I have stated before that there is enough assets to be able to cover all accounts, just liquidating them can take time unless I take a loss on them in which case I would not be able to cover accounts. As a token of goodwill I will authorise an increase in your balance comparable to the accounts daily rate of interest for every day it takes to return your isk to you starting from the 15th of August. Some account have been credited and completely withdrawn but trying to liquidate 60 billions worth of assets and get 60 billion cash quickly is difficult. The process can take upto a month to fully convert this amount of assets into its equivalent cash value but we are aiming to get all accounts dissolved within 2 weeks.
EMFi Manager EvE Mutual Fund Inc.	Posted - 2006.08.17 19:30:00 - [6] If you need help liquidating let me know what you have, for example, the bank claims to hold some t2 prints I might know a source who can help liquidate that quickly :P also you should have some t2 components and minerals I could help find a place.. Alt of Naphtalia Visit my investment site
Catjusha	Posted - 2006.08.17 19:40:00 - [7] Thanks for your answer, Kal Just as a heads up, I would have appreciated a prior notice which contained the explanation you just gave here during the 16th. It would have saved me the headache trying to contact one of your tellers today. All good now though. Cheers Cat ------------------------------------ In its current form, Eve is a paradise for Isk sellers, exploiters and griefers.
Kal D'vogh	Posted - 2006.08.17 19:43:00 - [8] Originally by: EMFi Manager If you need help liquidating let me know what you have, for example, the bank claims to hold some t2 prints I might know a source who can help liquidate that quickly :P also you should have some t2 components and minerals I could help find a place.. Most of the tech2 prints are in Cally's possesion afaik so there is nothing I can do there. As for assets, Im looking into what we have available outside of what I use on the market. I would prefer to just liquidate the market orders since those were setup using client isk but I will go through everything and maybe have a gargage sale of some sort.
Kitty O'Shay Tharsis Security	Posted - 2006.08.17 19:59:00 - [9] Originally by: Kal D'vogh Since Cally dissapeared and was holding the majority of liquid isk on her personal wallet, I have had to begin the process of liquidating assets. Heh, so the EIB isk did disappear with "Cally," now Kal is liquidating all the assest to try and cover deposits. That sounds like a nice retirement package for "Cally" from the EIB to use on another char/acct. Two words come to mind: Bank run. -- 1 in 10 chance to win a battleship!
Clementina God's of Eve	Posted - 2006.08.17 20:04:00 - [10] Originally by: Kitty O'Shay Originally by: Kal D'vogh Since Cally dissapeared and was holding the majority of liquid isk on her personal wallet, I have had to begin the process of liquidating assets. Heh, so the EIB isk did disappear with "Cally," now Kal is liquidating all the assest to try and cover deposits. That sounds like a nice retirement package for "Cally" from the EIB to use on another char/acct. Two words come to mind: Bank run. The time for bank runs is over. If you didn't get your money out when Cally's email saying he was in the hospital, and its subsequent refutation. It's just luck that will get your investment back now.
Dark Shikari Caldari Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2006.08.17 20:11:00 - [11] Originally by: Kitty O'Shay Originally by: Kal D'vogh Since Cally dissapeared and was holding the majority of liquid isk on her personal wallet, I have had to begin the process of liquidating assets. Heh, so the EIB isk did disappear with "Cally," now Kal is liquidating all the assest to try and cover deposits. That sounds like a nice retirement package for "Cally" from the EIB to use on another char/acct. Two words come to mind: Bank run. EIB != EIBI The EIB has assets well beyond what their deposits are. Cally has claimed 400-500b+ in assets and 100b or so in deposits. Thus even if half the assets were lost, the investors would get all their ISK back. --[23] Member-- Originally by: DB Preacher The only time BoB's backs are to the wall is when Backdoor Bandit is in local.
RogueWing Caldari Vanguard Frontiers	Posted - 2006.08.17 21:34:00 - [12] Originally by: Currin Trading Have you checked the prisons/hospitals in your area? God Almighty......I've got tears running down my face laughing so hard.
Kitty O'Shay Tharsis Security	Posted - 2006.08.17 21:53:00 - [13] Originally by: Dark Shikari EIB != EIBI O RLY? You repeat that alot. And it's true, on paper. But seeing the mess that the EIB/EIBI books were in, I doubt that the finances really were seperate. I'm talking about what "disappeared" with Cally, and that could very well be EIB and EIBI assets. Originally by: Dark Shikari The EIB has assets well beyond what their deposits are. Cally has claimed 400-500b+ in assets and 100b or so in deposits. Thus even if half the assets were lost, the investors would get all their ISK back. And anything that was in the wallet of the Cally account's characters is now gone, according to the person now running the EIB. The official word from the EIB, via Kal, is that Cally is gone, and the assets that he had on his myriad of accounts is also gone. Remind me, what do we call it when the CEO runs off with a corp's assets? -- 1 in 10 chance to win a battleship!
Kenz Rider	Posted - 2006.08.17 21:58:00 - [14] The two entities are for all intents and purposes the same. Cally's claims still hold water? It seems he couldn't even work in real bank as a teller, if his jail story is true. I can't see him being in jail for so long for a misdemeanor.
Dark Shikari Caldari Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2006.08.17 22:06:00 - [15] Originally by: Kitty O'Shay Remind me, what do we call it when the CEO runs off with a corp's assets? It would be theft, except that Cally owned the assets in the first place. The only assets Cally didn't own are those that were invested by others, and Kal claims there are enough of those to pay off the investors in full. --[23] Member-- Originally by: DB Preacher The only time BoB's backs are to the wall is when Backdoor Bandit is in local.
EMFI Auditor	Posted - 2006.08.17 22:44:00 - [16] Ok without disclosing anything major and I won't say anything about the substantiality of the things I will write below. All numbers have been fudged becuase I still need to talk to Kal.. Just posting this to solve the "he said" "she said" issues. Below is what Cally Claimed (all names and accounts summed to protect identity, rounded to closest 10bil) Status as of July Also Assuming that Bank = EIBI for accounting purposses and will mark all assets with a * if they are suspected to be on Callys account. Assets: * Cash on Cally: 230bil * Shares on Cally: 40bil Cash in Corpwallet: 40bil Held by Satelite Corps: 250bil Held by Directors: 80bil Outstanding loans: 60bil * Assets in EIBI: 40bil --------------------------- Total: 700bil Liabilities: 30b (2000 public shares) 30b (2000 missing shares mostly given/sold to staff) 90b (EIB accounts savings/current/high interest) --------------------------- Total: 130bil ====================================== Profit (through accessible assets) Satelite corps: 10b Directors: 10b Loans: 10b ----------------- Total: 30b Loss: Interests and dividends: 10b Other and wages: 10b ---------------- Total: 20b =========================================== This is a snapshot, I think many accounts have already been withdrawn from. Not all in this report has been audited and/or confirmed. But to give a general idea... Kal should have access to ennough funds to cover accounts and shares, and even with EIBI dead in the water, the bank has ennough profit to cover dividend payments. This is assuming Kal has the authority to convince all satalite corps to continue their payments and all people with loans to keep paying their debts. :P What I write above ISN'T the confirmed truth but should give some clarity to where what is going. Since Cally=EIB.. Assets - Liabilities should show Cally's net worth.
Kitty O'Shay Tharsis Security	Posted - 2006.08.17 23:19:00 - [17] A 500 billion retirement package. Very nice. -- 1 in 10 chance to win a battleship!
EMFI Auditor	Posted - 2006.08.17 23:21:00 - [18] Originally by: Kitty O'Shay A 500 billion retirement package. Very nice. technically 310b if he runs of. but his networth is more then 310b.
Lord Vager Amarr	Posted - 2006.08.17 23:28:00 - [19] Originally by: EMFI Auditor Originally by: Kitty O'Shay A 500 billion retirement package. Very nice. technically 310b if he runs of. but his networth is more then 310b. What do you mean if? Looks like he already did
EMFI Auditor	Posted - 2006.08.18 00:25:00 - [20] well running with 310b while your networth is 500b is silly :P so either the numbers don't match up.. or he could have made more isk paying everyone of and keeping the rest.
without	Posted - 2006.08.18 01:08:00 - [21] so this was a scam after all?
Kal D'vogh	Posted - 2006.08.18 01:41:00 - [22] Originally by: without so this was a scam after all? The only thing that appears to be scammed was the EIB itself. If you consider what the bank started with, to what assets cally is in possession of now (allegedly), then Cally has quit the bank and taken 300b for his troubles but at the same time ensuring there was enough left to pick up the pieces. In effect he has allowed the EIB to get to a state where as he walks out of it a multi billionaire but allows investors to be repaid what they put in. An honourable scam if you like. CORPORATION, n. An ingenious device for obtaining individual profit without individual responsibility. This is what Cally may or may not have done here but at the moment it's the best I can come up with.

Tirg Forum Moderator Interstellar Services Department	Posted - 2006.08.18 02:24:00 - [23] Thread cleaned. Please do not resort to personal attacks, or trolling.

Semblence	Posted - 2006.08.18 02:32:00 - [24] Sorry Tirg, but no-one in this thread is either in hospital or prison.
Semblence	Posted - 2006.08.18 03:14:00 - [25] Edited by: Semblence on 18/08/2006 03:18:27 Originally by: without so this was a scam after all? Read this and make up your own mind. ("enjoying accomadation at her majesty's pleasure" [sic] is colloquial British English for being in prison.)
Rthor Gallente Smugglers Inc.	Posted - 2006.08.18 09:21:00 - [26] "Honorable scam"? This whole eve stock market thingy is quite looney but seriously how can you take yourself seriously and say stuff like that?
Jaeger Orlofsson VentureCorp CORE.	Posted - 2006.08.18 10:06:00 - [27] Originally by: RogueWing Originally by: Currin Trading snip God Almighty......I've got tears running down my face laughing so hard. Can someone please evemail me what it was CT said? I needa good laugh
JP Moregain Gallente Moregain Guaranty Trust	Posted - 2006.08.18 10:32:00 - [28] Edited by: JP Moregain on 18/08/2006 10:33:59 Originally by: Dark Shikari EIB != EIBI The EIB has assets well beyond what their deposits are. Cally has claimed 400-500b+ in assets and 100b or so in deposits. Thus even if half the assets were lost, the investors would get all their ISK back. DS, while it is possible you end up being right, I guess I am wondering why it makes sense to build a case around any unverified statement by Cally. Frankly it is an easy arguement that it was in Cally's interest to overstate the value of the bank, in order to build confidence in both depositors and , later, the investors in the EIBI and UEMA IPO's. There may not be enough assets to cover deposits. Also, as I pointed out elsewhere, the fact that 'Kal' is trying to keep things going is hardly prima fascie evidence that this is not a fraud. It could very well be that they just need time to liquidate all the non-cash assets. This implies poorly organized fraud, but I am sure that world has its sloppy operators too. Regards, JP "In JP We Trust, All Others Require Collateral..."
robacz Gallente	Posted - 2006.08.18 11:01:00 - [29] Originally by: Jaeger Orlofsson Can someone please evemail me what it was CT said? I needa good laugh http://www.eve-search.com/index.dxd?thread=380426 lol ___________ Buying/Selling: Implants, Cargo Expanders and more
Dark Shikari Caldari Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2006.08.18 12:21:00 - [30] Originally by: JP Moregain Originally by: Dark Shikari EIB != EIBI The EIB has assets well beyond what their deposits are. Cally has claimed 400-500b+ in assets and 100b or so in deposits. Thus even if half the assets were lost, the investors would get all their ISK back. DS, while it is possible you end up being right, I guess I am wondering why it makes sense to build a case around any unverified statement by Cally. Frankly it is an easy arguement that it was in Cally's interest to overstate the value of the bank, in order to build confidence in both depositors and , later, the investors in the EIBI and UEMA IPO's. There may not be enough assets to cover deposits. Also, as I pointed out elsewhere, the fact that 'Kal' is trying to keep things going is hardly prima fascie evidence that this is not a fraud. It could very well be that they just need time to liquidate all the non-cash assets. This implies poorly organized fraud, but I am sure that world has its sloppy operators too. Regards, JP My point is that nobody in this forum other than Kal can do anything at the moment. Kal's job is to follow up on his word and pay back the investors, and everyone else's job is to watch and wait. Since nobody else can do anything, speculating is pointless: all we can do is take Kal's statements at face value and see if he follows up on them. If he does follow up on them, EIB isn't a scam, and all the alts can shut up. If he doesn't follow up on them, well... maybe he got in a bus crash --[23] Member-- Originally by: DB Preacher The only time BoB's backs are to the wall is when Backdoor Bandit is in local.

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