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Kenz Rider
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Posted - 2006.08.20 03:59:00 -
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My only remaining curiousities are:
1) If Dentara really scammed ISK 800 billion, I think it may have a material impact on the in-game economy. It will be interesting to see if this is the case.
2) Did Dentara ever share an account? What will be the conclusion of the GM investigation? Is Dentara behind Kal too?
Well after I tend to some in game business over the next few weeks I will be letting my sub go. Glad I was able to see this through to the (more or less) conclusion.
My advice to the "Neils" of the EVE world, trust no one. To those that don't care about the money and just are along for the ride, keep investing.
Not much more for me to add at this point so I think I'll bow out.
gl hf, Kenz
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Kitty O'Shay
Tharsis Security
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Posted - 2006.08.20 04:01:00 -
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Originally by: Sir Juri wake up man, atleast one of the char running EIB is an alt of Cally. He says noone was in on it, but I still think nepthalia EMFI and who knows perhaps Dark (dont be naive) was in on it. And perhaps more ppl.
Well, I think Dentara used DS/Naph/etc. as suckers, more than them being cut in for some of the profit. They gave their help willingly to him, by continuing to post even when they had serious doubts.
DS, had his teeth in the issue like a dog with a bone. He couldn't let go and stop posting, even when he know better.
Naph/EMFI let the audit drag out, even when it was clear that no more info was coming.
They were codependents making excuses for Dentara until the bitten end. But I really don't think they'll be getting a paycheck for their efforts.
There's no way the megalomaniac that made that vid would want help to pull this off. --
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Mung Lore
Supero Omnia
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Posted - 2006.08.20 04:05:00 -
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Pete Wilson is Dentara Rast, Kal D'vogh is Dentara Rast Cally is Dentara Rast
list prob goes on and on and on.
News storys, how to's, IPO tools, the Scammer beware master list, all at.
Link Removed - Serathu ([email protected]) Comming Soon! |
Kerushi
Caldari JuBa Corp
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Posted - 2006.08.20 04:06:00 -
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just look at Dentara Rast post history to see he has more old aged chars coming for a new scam
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Dark Shikari
Caldari Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2006.08.20 04:06:00 -
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Originally by: Kitty O'Shay
Originally by: Sir Juri wake up man, atleast one of the char running EIB is an alt of Cally. He says noone was in on it, but I still think nepthalia EMFI and who knows perhaps Dark (dont be naive) was in on it. And perhaps more ppl.
Well, I think Dentara used DS/Naph/etc. as suckers, more than them being cut in for some of the profit. They gave their help willingly to him, by continuing to post even when they had serious doubts.
DS, had his teeth in the issue like a dog with a bone. He couldn't let go and stop posting, even when he know better.
Actually I stopped posting quite a number of times. I mainly got sick of it. The drama bored me to death, and you'll notice there were periods (especially after a lot of the recent drama) where I just gave up.
And of course Dentara would never cut anyone in on the profit. He's too damned egotistical to do that
--[23] Member--
Originally by: DB Preacher The only time BoB's backs are to the wall is when Backdoor Bandit is in local.
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Sir Juri
Caldari Federation of Freedom Fighters Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2006.08.20 04:09:00 -
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Originally by: Kerushi just look at Dentara Rast post history to see he has more old aged chars coming for a new scam
damn need to make a new sig... |
Dark Shikari
Caldari Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2006.08.20 04:12:00 -
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Edited by: Dark Shikari on 20/08/2006 04:12:26
Oh and for those interested, rather than flaming on about this now, EMFI has some pretty decent info coming soonÖ. Maybe tomorrow. So stay on your toes, wait, and see whats going to happen. Or join the EMFI channel and discuss...
P.S. I'll give you a taste of the info. Dentara claims the character Cally will be deleted. . More coming as the scam develops
--[23] Member--
Originally by: DB Preacher The only time BoB's backs are to the wall is when Backdoor Bandit is in local.
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Sir Juri
Caldari Federation of Freedom Fighters Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2006.08.20 04:16:00 -
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Originally by: Dark Shikari Edited by: Dark Shikari on 20/08/2006 04:12:26
Oh and for those interested, rather than flaming on about this now, EMFI has some pretty decent info coming soonÖ. Maybe tomorrow. So stay on your toes, wait, and see whats going to happen. Or join the EMFI channel and discuss...
P.S. I'll give you a taste of the info. Dentara claims the character Cally will be deleted. . More coming as the scam develops
a video with a bunch of "pwnage" or good info? well I hope to see it soon:tm
damn need to make a new sig... |
Dark Shikari
Caldari Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2006.08.20 04:17:00 -
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Edited by: Dark Shikari on 20/08/2006 04:17:31
Originally by: Sir Juri
Originally by: Dark Shikari Edited by: Dark Shikari on 20/08/2006 04:12:26
Oh and for those interested, rather than flaming on about this now, EMFI has some pretty decent info coming soonÖ. Maybe tomorrow. So stay on your toes, wait, and see whats going to happen. Or join the EMFI channel and discuss...
P.S. I'll give you a taste of the info. Dentara claims the character Cally will be deleted. . More coming as the scam develops
a video with a bunch of "pwnage" or good info? well I hope to see it soon:tm
Well its not a video, because its already been discussed in a public channel... so you can ask anyone in the channel.
Its fun stuff though. What will be more interesting will be everyone's reaction to it.
Lets just say that Dentara doesn't really care if people know his plans and thoughts now, considering he has all the ISK
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Originally by: DB Preacher The only time BoB's backs are to the wall is when Backdoor Bandit is in local.
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Sir Juri
Caldari Federation of Freedom Fighters Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2006.08.20 04:19:00 -
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Originally by: Dark Shikari Edited by: Dark Shikari on 20/08/2006 04:17:31
Originally by: Sir Juri
Originally by: Dark Shikari Edited by: Dark Shikari on 20/08/2006 04:12:26
Oh and for those interested, rather than flaming on about this now, EMFI has some pretty decent info coming soonÖ. Maybe tomorrow. So stay on your toes, wait, and see whats going to happen. Or join the EMFI channel and discuss...
P.S. I'll give you a taste of the info. Dentara claims the character Cally will be deleted. . More coming as the scam develops
a video with a bunch of "pwnage" or good info? well I hope to see it soon:tm
Well its not a video, because its already been discussed in a public channel... so you can ask anyone in the channel.
Its fun stuff though. What will be more interesting will be everyone's reaction to it.
Lets just say that Dentara doesn't really care if people know his plans and thoughts now, considering he has all the ISK
no clue what channel that be or if I can bother, but if you got time plz relay it
damn need to make a new sig... |
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Darkon Gatland
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Posted - 2006.08.20 04:20:00 -
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Just watched the video...
What a nice man.....
GBH eh? That's.... nice...
I wasn't going to feel sorry for those who were scammed. But problem is he feels to me like a real criminal who deserves getting locked up.
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Dark Shikari
Caldari Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2006.08.20 04:20:00 -
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Originally by: Sir Juri
no clue what channel that be or if I can bother, but if you got time plz relay it
EMFI channel ofc .
Anyways, I'm off to get a good night's sleep.
Tomorrow is another day...
--[23] Member--
Originally by: DB Preacher The only time BoB's backs are to the wall is when Backdoor Bandit is in local.
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Macdeth
Ephemeral Misgivings
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Posted - 2006.08.20 04:32:00 -
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Hahaha.
As much as I hate people who say "I told you so", this is too much for me to resist.
Originally by: Dentara Rast 2006.07.08 11:22:00
Originally by: Macdeth 2006.07.08 09:53:00 While we're on an alt/main witchhunt, didn't Dentara Rast recently claim that some large loss was something like "less than 0.5% of his total worth", which made his worth ballpark five hundred billion?
Just curious, since Dentara Rast has claimed for at least the couple years I've been aware of him to be rich thanks to his alts though these alts have never been identified.
There shouldn't be more than several dozen individual players with total assets over a few hundred billion, after all... These couldn't be -that- hard to identify.
YES!!! I AM CALLY'S ALT!!! HA HA HA FOOLED YOU ALL!!!!
Among my other great alts, there is Dark Shikari! HippoKing! and lets not forget......
EMFI HIMSELF!!!!
we should demand an alt sub forum!
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Dentara Rast
Satan's Plague
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Posted - 2006.08.20 04:35:00 -
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thats right. told everyone but they didnt listen....
Eve Just got Owned
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Treelox
Amarr Storm Industries
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Posted - 2006.08.20 04:41:00 -
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Originally by: Kenz Rider
Well after I tend to some in game business over the next few weeks I will be letting my sub go.
it wouldnt be right unless someone said it....
can i have your stuff?
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Obaspacula
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Posted - 2006.08.20 04:42:00 -
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Originally by: Dentara Rast thats right. told everyone but they didnt listen....
Okay, interesting thing is you had a jackpot, but instead of making yourself into a crime lord, you are now just the typical car jacker. EIB could have been milked to the end of the game and you wouldnt have had to do anything if you wanted.
It will be interesting to see if anyone makes themself into a jabba like character.
No discussing moderation. -Kaemonn
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Virtuality
Minmatar Black Omega Security E.R.A
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Posted - 2006.08.20 04:44:00 -
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Good job Dentara. This is actually something you can be proud of.
Stairs?
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Sir Juri
Caldari Federation of Freedom Fighters Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2006.08.20 04:47:00 -
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Originally by: Obaspacula
Originally by: Dentara Rast thats right. told everyone but they didnt listen....
Okay, interesting thing is you had a jackpot, but instead of making yourself into a crime lord, you are now just the typical car jacker. EIB could have been milked to the end of the game and you wouldnt have had to do anything if you wanted.
It will be interesting to see if anyone makes themself into a jabba like character.
No discussing moderation. -Kaemonn
you know tbh I dont think anyone in EVE with a trillion in his wallet would hesitate one second to take it all. Bottom line any IPO which so much ISK with a few ppl with access to the wallet, it will get taken, you cant entrust anyone with that much ISK.
damn need to make a new sig... |
Macdeth
Ephemeral Misgivings
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Posted - 2006.08.20 04:48:00 -
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Originally by: Dentara Rast thats right. told everyone but they didnt listen....
See, Currin's mistake is that he's out there with protest signs yelling and screaming for attention so therefore everyone ignores him because he's an attention *****. My preference is to say what I have to say and withdraw. People can pay me heed or disregard my words, what they do isn't my responsibility.
You're just another attention *****, who was most definitely revealed as emotionally disturbed back when you went insane over Lordless. Personally, I do believe you're claiming to have scammed isk through EIB/EIBI which you likely brought to the table in the first place since long before EIB/EIBI was formed you also claimed to have a couple hundred billion, but I don't care. The wild ravings of attention *****s aren't all that interesting to anyone with better things to do, so other than scanning through that original thread and now hearing about this one second hand, I've been ignoring all the EIB-related nonsense.
The first post here was for Dark Shikari's benefit, not yours, because he treats all these scams so credulously that I often compose replies to him but delete them without posting since I know they're a fruitless gesture.
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Kerushi
Caldari JuBa Corp
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Posted - 2006.08.20 04:54:00 -
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Edited by: Kerushi on 20/08/2006 04:54:57
Originally by: Sir Juri
Originally by: Obaspacula
Originally by: Dentara Rast thats right. told everyone but they didnt listen....
Okay, interesting thing is you had a jackpot, but instead of making yourself into a crime lord, you are now just the typical car jacker. EIB could have been milked to the end of the game and you wouldnt have had to do anything if you wanted.
It will be interesting to see if anyone makes themself into a jabba like character.
No discussing moderation. -Kaemonn
you know tbh I dont think anyone in EVE with a trillion in his wallet would hesitate one second to take it all. Bottom line any IPO which so much ISK with a few ppl with access to the wallet, it will get taken, you cant entrust anyone with that much ISK.
if i had that amount of money to invest with, i`d buy all hac bpo`s of good types and then double the price edit, prolly trippled the price aswell and keep it all legit to double the amount
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Currin Trading
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Posted - 2006.08.20 05:06:00 -
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Originally by: Dark Shikari So as I post this, I figure I should ask Currin a few questions.
What made you decide to run your scam?
At what point during your scam did you decide to call scam on EIB?
Did you ever think there was a chance EIB wasn't a scam? Be honest here.
The first two of these questions are answered in the story of my scam.
When I first started to look over the EIB back in June, I considered the possibility that it was legitimate. I initially hoped it was legitimate, because if the EIB were not a scam I would hold the record for Eve's biggest scam.
Unfortunately, the more I looked into the EIB, the more I felt it was a scam. Too much about the EIB mirrored the way I would have run a scam, had I the resources available to Cally (2003 chars, graphics design, etc.).
By the time I went public with my suspicions, I was sure it was a scam. When Cally made his first long reply to my accusations, he was so rattled that I became 100% certain of his guilt.
The lunacy of the "events" taking place in July and August provided plenty of extra proof, but it was unnecessary, at least to me. |
Eschwen
Gas Giant Industries
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Posted - 2006.08.20 05:11:00 -
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Originally by: Dark Shikari What does EMFI have to do with this?
I have 900,000 EMFI shares.
I have zero EIB shares.
There is a reason for this disparity.
Come now Dark, I know you know better than to post this rubbish. Let me do some quick math for you:
You own 900,000 shares of EMFI, out of a total of 10,000,000 shares. This means you personally represent 9% of the fund. Based on the latest EMFI portfolio (and despite EMFI's best efforts to dump stock) the fund currently holds ~8 billion ISK worth of EIBI stock. By definition, this means that approximately 9% of that value is yours.
This currently leaves you with a personal loss of $716,850,000.00 ISK. EIBI paid back about 1/3rd of the original IPO value as dividends before today (mitigating your loss somewhat) but still leaving it in the realm of about a half billion.
If you were to receive a RL statement from EMFI, it would state that you currently own 29.79 shares of EIBI (due to the fact that you 'own' 9% of the 331 shares carried by the fund).
I know this concept does not escape you. Please don't pretend it does.
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Eli Lucidious
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Posted - 2006.08.20 05:25:00 -
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I'm not scared to write I lost big in this.
I liked talking with Cally, but I got owned. Least I only got duped once, wont happen again. Not worth investing in anything anymore.
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Omber Zombie
Gallente Frontier Technologies
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Posted - 2006.08.20 06:01:00 -
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Originally by: Sir Juri
both you and omber needs to never ever speak on behalf of IPO's, especially when you had suspicions but didnt act upon them even if you couldnt loose any ISK but cant break a "deal" in a game about auditing by someone like napthalia/emfi who cant do audits and is most likely in on it, and got a piece of the scam
1st) WTF do I have to do with this? I have never commented on EIB. The only thing I have done regarding them was not trade their stocks on EGSE while the audit was ongoing. 2nd) I should make public who I decide to invest in? 3rd) This is the 2nd post in here from you referring to me, have I done something to you in the past to hurt you that I should be aware of? ----------------------
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Sir Juri
Caldari Federation of Freedom Fighters Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2006.08.20 06:16:00 -
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Originally by: Omber Zombie
Originally by: Sir Juri
both you and omber needs to never ever speak on behalf of IPO's, especially when you had suspicions but didnt act upon them even if you couldnt loose any ISK but cant break a "deal" in a game about auditing by someone like napthalia/emfi who cant do audits and is most likely in on it, and got a piece of the scam
1st) WTF do I have to do with this? I have never commented on EIB. The only thing I have done regarding them was not trade their stocks on EGSE while the audit was ongoing. 2nd) I should make public who I decide to invest in? 3rd) This is the 2nd post in here from you referring to me, have I done something to you in the past to hurt you that I should be aware of?
I was just stating that he is as bad as you!? I was Just pointing out what he did was just as bad as what you did in terms of the SVE scam
And it was nothing more personal then that. So you can calm down
damn need to make a new sig... |
Sawani
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Posted - 2006.08.20 06:25:00 -
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Maybe you should be asking exactly whose alt DS is *oops*
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Omber Zombie
Gallente Frontier Technologies
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Posted - 2006.08.20 06:30:00 -
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Actually, no, I won't calm down. You have used my name twice in this thread to illustrate that I am untrustworthy. I didn't defend EIB, I didn't defend SVE either. The only thing I said about SVE was that it was a viable business. Which it was. The fact that it was a scam is the reason I stopped looking at IPO's as I refused to lend my name to something that in theory could be legitimate, but could also be a scam.
Do not use me as a scapegoat, and I won't get ****ed off at you. ----------------------
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Sir Juri
Caldari Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2006.08.20 06:41:00 -
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Edited by: Sir Juri on 20/08/2006 06:41:38
Originally by: Omber Zombie Actually, no, I won't calm down. You have used my name twice in this thread to illustrate that I am untrustworthy. I didn't defend EIB, I didn't defend SVE either. The only thing I said about SVE was that it was a viable business. Which it was. The fact that it was a scam is the reason I stopped looking at IPO's as I refused to lend my name to something that in theory could be legitimate, but could also be a scam.
Do not use me as a scapegoat, and I won't get ****ed off at you.
Sorry but I was questioning your judgement thats it. And making an example (correct?) between you and Dark Now calm down, yes I might have used your name twice dark *cough* omber (joking) but that doesnt mean I hate you and thats good you dont lend your name anymore, now just a few more ppl needs to learn that asswell.
damn need to make a new sig... |
Mecinia Lua
Galactic Express The Guardian Coalition
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Posted - 2006.08.20 06:46:00 -
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It might be interesting what a court of law had to say about this kind of scam. Though inherently not outlawed in the EULA, the EULA does not excuse you from commiting real world crimes.
Thus propositioning children in a MMO can still be a sexual crime in the real world ( just like when they use text messaging to do so. ).
Scamming ISK out of people might as well be a real crime. See he set up a virtual business. Then embezzeled all the funds or most of them. The problem is that ISK have a real world value. CCP sets that value by placing a number of ISK that you can trade for a GTC. Thus in fact you could have considered the scammer to have actually stolen real value worth of services.
I'm not sure how a court would rule upon it, but it certainly would be interesting. I of course only started buying shares a few weeks ago, after looking at the boards and the controversy I had never bought any UEMA or EIBI shares. I just didn't believe it was a safe investment. However those that invested large sums, might have a case in the real world.
I've sat in the EGSEx channel for over a month, at no time have I ever heard any broker or EMFI ever encourage folks to buy EIB shares. They were mutedly quiet about it, which is what also heightened my caution deciding an investment in EIB wasn't worth it. So I'd like to say that calls that Omber Zombie, EMFI Manager etc were in on it seem unfounded to me. EMFI probably should have posted saying that he could not do the audit because of lack of cooperation on the part of EIB ( cally not logging on when he knows an audit was suppose to be underway is a lack of cooperation ). Then he should have allowed others to draw their own conclusions.
Galactic Express Recruitment Post
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Your Main
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Posted - 2006.08.20 07:07:00 -
[120]
There are similarities between Dentara, Cally, EMFI Manager, and Naphtalia, wether people choose to notice them or not... |
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