Thing is it does so by removing a stupid loophole. Can one of the opposition explain to me WHY it makes sense that I can shoot a guy in my corp but not a stranger? Why concord will react to one incident and not the other?

With dual mechanics we now have ways to 'test a tank' ignoring completely sisi server for the moment. So why did the awox mechanic make sense to you? I understand it made Eve 'dangerous' and allowed a certain type of gameplay but at the bottom of it . . . is there a logic to that rule?

Because the awoxer would not fly in a corporate ship. Since the awoxer works with a low sp alt he has to transport this stuff with a freighter alt anyway. Or contract Red Frog. No change here, since corporate steals are still possible.

If a guy steals a bunch of corporate stuff & is currently flying it in a freighter to the neatest trade hub, why shouldn't you be allowed to kill him & not have concord intervene?

Or contract Red Frog. No change here, since corporate steals are still possible.

This thread shows clearly that people preying on noobs are quite a large and noisy collective...

43 pages and you still argue over something that was never said.


At the end of the day it looks like this social experiment is coming to an end. CCP has reached the point where attracting the low hanging pvp crowd is detrimental to the game and there isn't enough new players coming in to mitigate the ones this playstyle drives away willingly...and is happy about it. I can comment on stuff that was never said as well.

Completely false. Unfortunately a whole group of players make it their mission to trick new players into joining their corps to blow the up for giggles. I know it sounds pathetic and sick, and the kind of thing literally only lowlives would do, but there are unfortunately some very troubled people playing the game, and this is the kind of garbage that brings them entertainment. If anthing, awoxxing bittervets is virtually impossible because they have already learned to be cynical and trust no one, always looking for the knife in the back. The natural awoxx targets are the new players, who naively assume that Eve is like other MMOs, where you can casually join up with other players with minimal risk involved.

so they spent some money on plex its not unheard of

Others think that such a person quitting is fundamentally inevitable, and that casting aside long standing portions of the game for the sake of short term retention of such people is folly.

And the result is that vast swaths of highsec players are not interested in making that kind of effort and just play the game solo, often getting bored and quitting. Result - CCP losing a lot of money. Result - CCP nerfing awoxxes to fix that.