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The Doct0r	Posted - 2006.08.25 11:27:00 - [1] Edited by: The Doct0r on 25/08/2006 11:27:44 K - wtf is that about on lvl 4 missions?? Bug ?? Intentional ?? Now for me, it does liven up the missions a bit, but for poor souls starting out on lvl 4's, they are gonna be in for one hell of a shock So, on behalf of those that are gonna go mental over this: Please CCP, LET US ALSO MWD ABOUT IN DEADSPACE ALONG WITH THE NPCS!! or at least fix the bug!! **ps - soz about the cap-lock
Croak Gallente	Posted - 2006.08.25 12:30:00 - [2] It's not a bug.
Bambi Gallente Existentialist Collective	Posted - 2006.08.25 12:50:00 - [3] They do MWD and always have done afaik. Its not realy the MWD that cause the problem, its the scramblers and webbers.
The Doct0r	Posted - 2006.08.25 13:45:00 - [4] Originally by: Croak It's not a bug. Must be a bug otherwise we, the players, wouldn't get the usual pop up info box if we try to activate one in a DS pocket!!
Baldour Ngarr Artemis Rising	Posted - 2006.08.25 13:55:00 - [5] Originally by: The Doct0r Originally by: Croak It's not a bug. Must be a bug otherwise we, the players, wouldn't get the usual pop up info box if we try to activate one in a DS pocket!! No, that makes it an inconsistency. It's only a BUG if it's not working the way the devs intended it to work. ________________________________________________ "I tried strip mining, but I lost, and it's cold flying around in space naked."
killerco Gallente Confederation of Red Moon Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.08.25 14:03:00 - [6] Originally by: The Doct0r Edited by: The Doct0r on 25/08/2006 11:27:44 K - wtf is that about on lvl 4 missions?? Bug ?? Intentional ?? Now for me, it does liven up the missions a bit, but for poor souls starting out on lvl 4's, they are gonna be in for one hell of a shock So, on behalf of those that are gonna go mental over this: Please CCP, LET US ALSO MWD ABOUT IN DEADSPACE ALONG WITH THE NPCS!! or at least fix the bug!! **ps - soz about the cap-lock It's not a bug. npc's can mwd in complexes. Don't be a great man just be a man
The Doct0r	Posted - 2006.08.25 14:08:00 - [7] soz for being a pain, but if this is the case please direct me to a link from which someone in ccp states that this is indeed the case
Nyphur Pillowsoft Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2006.08.25 14:27:00 - [8] Edited by: Nyphur on 25/08/2006 14:27:31 A dev once posted that NPCs do not have microwardrives but rather very good afterburners. EDIT: And I'm not going to hunt down a six month old post to prove it :/. Auctioning a rare item, the only remote HULL repairers in the game. Don't miss out, this chance won't come again.
The Doct0r	Posted - 2006.08.25 14:46:00 - [9] then these 10MN MWD's that BS rats are dropping are obviously a coding error? or the 10mn AB's ? note as well, they're not the named version!!
Sendraks	Posted - 2006.08.25 14:59:00 - [10] Originally by: Nyphur Edited by: Nyphur on 25/08/2006 14:27:31 A dev once posted that NPCs do not have microwardrives but rather very good afterburners. EDIT: And I'm not going to hunt down a six month old post to prove it :/. Aye I remember that as well. Regardless of whether NPC pirates have afterburners or not, they can achieve a microwarp drive effect in deadspace mission complexes. How long it has been this way I don't know, but certainly for over a year now.

The Doct0r	Posted - 2006.08.25 15:10:00 - [11] Originally by: Sendraks Originally by: Nyphur Edited by: Nyphur on 25/08/2006 14:27:31 A dev once posted that NPCs do not have microwardrives but rather very good afterburners. EDIT: And I'm not going to hunt down a six month old post to prove it :/. Aye I remember that as well. Regardless of whether NPC pirates have afterburners or not, they can achieve a microwarp drive effect in deadspace mission complexes. How long it has been this way I don't know, but certainly for over a year now. If you read up a bit, you will notice that i've stated it has been since the dragon patch. Yes, I know they used to move with speed before hand, yet since the patch their speed characteristics are of a fully fledged MWD fitted ship! Minor adjustments for my setups so not such a problem, yet if they are going to keep it this way, then it is logical to either increase the player AB in DS locations to balance it out or allow us to use MWD's. Simple really So has the Dragon patch messed up the DS npc? To me, it seems this way atm!
Peter Stuyvesant Amarr	Posted - 2006.08.25 16:12:00 - [12] Originally by: Nyphur A dev once posted that NPCs do not have microwardrives but rather very good afterburners. Rather good afterburners, that increase their sig radius, allowing you to pop them with a volley of cruises, eh? Anyway, NPCs cheat, but they don't have intelligence - a fair trade-off tbh.
HowlerVonGrowler	Posted - 2006.08.25 16:22:00 - [13] Originally by: The Doct0r Originally by: Sendraks Originally by: Nyphur Edited by: Nyphur on 25/08/2006 14:27:31 A dev once posted that NPCs do not have microwardrives but rather very good afterburners. EDIT: And I'm not going to hunt down a six month old post to prove it :/. Aye I remember that as well. Regardless of whether NPC pirates have afterburners or not, they can achieve a microwarp drive effect in deadspace mission complexes. How long it has been this way I don't know, but certainly for over a year now. If you read up a bit, you will notice that i've stated it has been since the dragon patch. Yes, I know they used to move with speed before hand, yet since the patch their speed characteristics are of a fully fledged MWD fitted ship! Minor adjustments for my setups so not such a problem, yet if they are going to keep it this way, then it is logical to either increase the player AB in DS locations to balance it out or allow us to use MWD's. Simple really So has the Dragon patch messed up the DS npc? To me, it seems this way atm! Yes you might have stated it but it doesnt change the fact that you are wrong they have been doing it since before dragon patch. --------------------------------------------- A drone is for life, not just for Christmas.
The Doct0r Minmatar	Posted - 2006.08.25 16:45:00 - [14] Originally by: Peter Stuyvesant Originally by: Nyphur A dev once posted that NPCs do not have microwardrives but rather very good afterburners. Rather good afterburners, that increase their sig radius, allowing you to pop them with a volley of cruises, eh? Anyway, NPCs cheat, but they don't have intelligence - a fair trade-off tbh. Couldn't have said it better myself You gotta love how others state certain things though without any proof mind Guess it's back to one volley and they pop with the cruise again * * * * * * * * Always ready to perform!!!! cough _______________________________________ Always back up comments with hard facts Save u looking foolish ______________________________
Croak Gallente	Posted - 2006.08.26 02:04:00 - [15] Originally by: The Doct0r Originally by: Sendraks Originally by: Nyphur Edited by: Nyphur on 25/08/2006 14:27:31 A dev once posted that NPCs do not have microwardrives but rather very good afterburners. EDIT: And I'm not going to hunt down a six month old post to prove it :/. Aye I remember that as well. Regardless of whether NPC pirates have afterburners or not, they can achieve a microwarp drive effect in deadspace mission complexes. How long it has been this way I don't know, but certainly for over a year now. If you read up a bit, you will notice that i've stated it has been since the dragon patch. Yes, I know they used to move with speed before hand, yet since the patch their speed characteristics are of a fully fledged MWD fitted ship! Minor adjustments for my setups so not such a problem, yet if they are going to keep it this way, then it is logical to either increase the player AB in DS locations to balance it out or allow us to use MWD's. Simple really So has the Dragon patch messed up the DS npc? To me, it seems this way atm! Methinks you just haven't been paying attention, and are now a victim of "patch paranoia". ;) Certain deadspace mission rats have been using MWDs for as long as I can remember. I've done 20 odd L4 missions since the patch, I notice nothing different about their behavior. Rats cheat, they don't run out of cap, they insta lock, and so on. That's the way it should be. (And oh, Jboots have been nerfed this patch.)
Nyphur Pillowsoft Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2006.08.26 16:39:00 - [16] Originally by: The Doct0r If you read up a bit, you will notice that i've stated it has been since the dragon patch. Except that you're wrong and it's been this way since deadspace came out. Auctioning a rare item, the only remote HULL repairers in the game. Don't miss out, this chance won't come again.
Deja Thoris Contraband Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.08.26 16:52:00 - [17] Rats have been mwding for ages in deadspace. As others have said, rats cheat. There is one / used to be one whose torps hit of over 2k damage, they need to cap to rep and some can hit with blasters at over 100km etc etc.
Katya Guillaume	Posted - 2006.08.27 09:54:00 - [18] Originally by: The Doct0r Edited by: The Doct0r on 25/08/2006 13:56:35 Originally by: Croak It's not a bug. Are you Sure?! Must be a bug otherwise we, the players, wouldn't get the usual pop up info box if we try to activate one in a DS pocket!! And it's only been since the deployment of Dragon that the little sods have been MWD'ing about! Dude, chill out. You've got all kinds of veterans - me included - telling you that it's been this way for as long as we can remember. Pilots can't mwd in deadspace otherwise the missions would be way too easy; rats can mwd to give them some kind of hope to do some damage.
Ather Ialeas Amarr	Posted - 2006.08.27 10:20:00 - [19] Originally by: Nyphur Edited by: Nyphur on 25/08/2006 14:27:31 A dev once posted that NPCs do not have microwardrives but rather very good afterburners. EDIT: And I'm not going to hunt down a six month old post to prove it :/. WTB: 100mn AB that makes my battleship go 4,5km/s
Malinaria Rebirth Inc. Tau Ceti Federation	Posted - 2006.08.27 11:02:00 - [20] Edited by: Malinaria on 27/08/2006 11:02:08 It was Oveur who said that a loong time ago. So yes the rats have VERY good AB in deadspace. Period. --------------------- Savior of Santa Crash

Miss Overlord	Posted - 2006.08.27 13:46:00 - [21] all NPCs have a MWD thats called an AB u see (but its a top secret thing) they all have jove accleration technology
Galk Gallente Autumn Tactics	Posted - 2006.08.27 16:41:00 - [22] Originally by: Miss Overlord all NPCs have a MWD thats called an AB u see (but its a top secret thing) they all have jove accleration technology Yeah and thankfully they come with the standard sig radius increases Seriously. It's one of those trade off balance type things, youre best off keeping your eyes closed and your mouth shut ______ Long ago one gorgeous night, we let the stars grow free. We let Zhuge do that once, he came back carrying a traffic cone, a forsale sign and three empty bottles of dutch lager. He also lost his Zimmer Frame... - Imaran

wystler Forum Moderator Interstellar Services Department	Posted - 2006.08.27 22:54:00 - [23] Adding a little more weight, Rats can cheat! They can go mwd fast and they have unlimited cap, and indeed some of the battleships can fire citadel torpedoes. I wish we could snipe out the pilot and board their ships eve-crc.net \| forum rules \| c.a.o.d forum rules \| [email protected] Official keeper of the smilie. Yarr!

Nyphur Pillowsoft Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2006.08.27 22:58:00 - [24] Originally by: wystler Adding a little more weight, Rats can cheat! They can go mwd fast and they have unlimited cap, and indeed some of the battleships can fire citadel torpedoes. I wish we could snipe out the pilot and board their ships NPCs do not have unlimited capacitor. They have a finite set amount and if you nos that out, it's gone for good as it does not regenerate. NPC, however, do not USE capacitor. Eve-Tanking.com - For tanking spreadsheet and resources.
Hassiana Gallente Paralex Research	Posted - 2006.08.28 01:43:00 - [25] Originally by: Nyphur Originally by: wystler Adding a little more weight, Rats can cheat! They can go mwd fast and they have unlimited cap, and indeed some of the battleships can fire citadel torpedoes. I wish we could snipe out the pilot and board their ships NPCs do not have unlimited capacitor. They have a finite set amount and if you nos that out, it's gone for good as it does not regenerate. NPC, however, do not USE capacitor. oh noes the citadel torps are inbound, abandon sense of humour quick!!
Rakhan kane Minmatar Fringe Exploration And Salvage Trust	Posted - 2006.08.28 05:06:00 - [26] Maybe the rats have been in the deadspace complex long enough that they've been able to attune their MWDs to the area's specific particle fluctuations (or insert any other Trekkie lingo mumbo-jumbo here if that doesn't taste right), and can therefore use MWDs. More important question is: Why can you use an MWD in a bubble? It's micro_warp_drive, and bubbles prevent _warp_ing. Hmm... As to cap and rats, IIRC some rat functions (scrambling, webbing, MWD/AB) turn off if you drain their cap. Regeneration, for one, does not (or did that slow down, too?).
Cmdr Sy EUROPEANS	Posted - 2006.08.28 05:45:00 - [27] Edited by: Cmdr Sy on 28/08/2006 05:45:09 Originally by: wystler I wish we could snipe out the pilot and board their ships Battlezone patch for EVE, plzkthx.
Caletha	Posted - 2006.08.28 09:33:00 - [28] This falls in the same catagory as where frigates, yes tech-1 frigates, are able to target me at +100km range without a sensor booster (or in a frig's case, usually with 20km target range, a sensor booster or 5-10 ). Or where cruisers seem to have no problem hitting me with heavy missiles at +100km range. Best yet, Mordus Headhunters are able to web you at around 15-20km range yet they have never dropped a faction webber with those stats So yes I'd say that NPC's cheat. I dont think any of their abilities rely on cap, at least I've never seen their web or scram (or mwd) drop after nos'ing them. They do however have a limited cap which you'll eventually drain with a nos.
Adoro Reunited	Posted - 2006.08.28 13:41:00 - [29] Dev once stated: its not a MWD, its a really cool faction overpowered afterburner... love the fantasy of the devs -------- Zapatero: Quote: So what happens when they 'cure' the geek gene as well? Poof <scuse the pun> There goes EVE.
Vistilantus Caldari Vistilantus Corp	Posted - 2006.08.28 14:09:00 - [30] Originally by: The Doct0r then these 10MN MWD's that BS rats are dropping are obviously a coding error? or the 10mn AB's ? note as well, they're not the named version!! OH MY GOD! like players have never dropped a module that was not fitted to their ships? npc's are allowed to carry modules in their cargo hold, not necesarily fitted to their ships ___________________________________________________ ~Vistilantus ~LFC



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