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Veleth
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Posted - 2006.08.25 13:52:00 -
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Arknor: Whenever you gain income from mining this location, you may choose one; draw a card or target opponent discards a card.
Minter's Far Outpost: Locations in this region can be mined by any number of ships at the same time.
Question is: If multiple ships are mining Arknor through the use of the Far Outpost, does that fire off the Draw/Discard ability for each ship?
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Hygelac
Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2006.08.25 14:08:00 -
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Tricky one. I would have said no, you don't gain multiple uses of the ability.
The rules say : "Income Step > Add together the total ISK income of all cards you control and collect that amount of ISK from the bank."
So you only gain income from mining once per turn and you gain that income at exactly the same time.
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Ishana
Minmatar Millennium E.R.A
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Posted - 2006.08.25 14:12:00 -
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I would say: Yes. The card clearly says that the ability is triggerd whenever you mine the location. Seeing as you mine it with two ships I'd say you get to use the ability twice. It does not have anything to do with the total amount of income you get.
I do see how you could get a nice discussion over this though, so a dev decision would be nice. _________________________________________________________
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Thkiir
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Posted - 2006.08.25 14:32:00 -
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Strictly based on the wording of the card, I'm with Hygelac on this one. The text on the card says "whenever you gain income from mining this location", not "for each ship mining this location". For the most part, the devs have done a very good job of wording each card to have exactly the effect they intended, so unless and until I get official word to the contrary, I'd say you only trigger Arkonor once.
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Shayla Sh'inlux
Millennium
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Posted - 2006.08.25 16:14:00 -
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Edited by: Shayla Sh''inlux on 25/08/2006 16:14:16 I'm also with Hyge (lo buddy! Come back will you.)
You don't get income multiple times, just once per round. The ability triggers from getting the income, not from mining the location. It's one card.
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Malthros Zenobia
Caldari Independent Navy Reserve Kimotoro Directive
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Posted - 2006.08.25 17:20:00 -
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Edited by: Malthros Zenobia on 25/08/2006 17:21:37
Originally by: Veleth Arknor: Whenever you gain income from mining this location, you may choose one; draw a card or target opponent discards a card.
Minter's Far Outpost: Locations in this region can be mined by any number of ships at the same time.
Question is: If multiple ships are mining Arknor through the use of the Far Outpost, does that fire off the Draw/Discard ability for each ship?
Yes, X ships mining = X times the Ark ability is used.
When you gain income from MINING. mining is an ability, and if you have 5 ships mining, then you'd gain income 5 times, thus you can control someone's hand.
Ark rules for fighting a counter deck. They're powerless to stop you from controlling their hand.
edit:
You have 4 Ibii mining the ark
You place 4 mining skills on the pile.
Ibis A is resolved, you gain isk from mining, use the ability. Ibis B is resolved, you gain isk from mining, use the ability. Ibis C is resolved, you gain isk from mining, use the ability. Ibis D is resolved, you gain isk from mining, use the ability.
Then you use the 91isk ability on SCCC global market, and hit their base for 1 damage, and win the game.
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Shayla Sh'inlux
Millennium
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Posted - 2006.08.25 17:41:00 -
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You don't get income from the mining directly, actually.
The rulebook is pretty clear on gaining income:
Quote:
Income Step > Add together the total ISK income of all cards you control and collect that amount of ISK from the bank."
Ie, you collect one big income at once after adding up the totals. At the addition step it's still x from this ship trading, y from that ship mining, z from that location, but at the gaining step it's one big lump sum and not 15 small ones.
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Testy Mctest
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Posted - 2006.08.26 00:28:00 -
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Personally, I'd rule that since income is received as one block - not a number of small ones - the Ark only goes off once. You're mining the Ark multiple times, but you only actually gain income once per turn, and this precludes a single Arkonor from having an effect more than once per turn.
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Malthros Zenobia
Caldari Independent Navy Reserve Kimotoro Directive
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Posted - 2006.08.27 02:22:00 -
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At the very least it would go off once per ark in play. So if you have 3 ships minign 3 ark cards, you use it 3x.
Altho I still think it'd act multiple times on one card.
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Tallest
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Posted - 2006.08.28 12:04:00 -
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All income is gained at the same time, so Arkonor only triggers once, regardless of how many ships are mining it.
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Malthros Zenobia
Caldari Independent Navy Reserve Kimotoro Directive
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Posted - 2006.08.28 20:20:00 -
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Originally by: Tallest All income is gained at the same time, so Arkonor only triggers once, regardless of how many ships are mining it.
Once period, or once per Ark card?
I have multiple arks in my deck atm, so this needs verified for me.
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Thkiir
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Posted - 2006.08.28 20:39:00 -
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Originally by: Malthros Zenobia Once period, or once per Ark card?
Once per card.
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